Good day.
I would like to make a short statement with respect to what is happening around Slavyansk. With respect to what is happening here. And, well, make an appeal, if you will.
Yesterday, the enemy completely surrounded Nikolayevka. The enemy shelled the city in the fiercest possible way, using all types of weapons. Using heavy MLRS systems, howitzers, mortars, tanks, APCs. The destruction is enormous. It is simply impossible to determine the numbers of casualties, because nothing works in the city now.
Our units that are in Nikolayevka at this moment continue the battle in complete encirclement. We have no communications with them.
Nikolayevka has been completely cut off from Slavyansk. At this very moment, a large enemy column of armoured vehicles is moving toward Semyonovka from the south, along the Kharkov-Rostov highway. At the same time, the enemy is continuing uninterrupted artillery shelling of the city and of Semyonovka. Yesterday, the Nikolayevka Thermal Power Plant was destroyed to the ground and set on fire.
To put it bluntly, we are dealing here with unconcealed genocide. In other words, to break the resistance of the Militia, the enemy is using all the available types of weaponry against the civilian population. Naturally, seeing the destruction and the death of the civilian population, militiamen are starting to lose the will to continue fighting.
I would like to say to you that, in Slavyansk, there is not one Chechen, not one mercenary. There is not a single person here who did not come of their own good will. If, before, 90% of the fighters were local, now the ratio is 95%. Out of the entire garrison, there is maybe several dozen people who came from Russia. The majority, the overwhelming majority are citizens of Ukraine. Among them, the overwhelming majority are Donbass residents. These are people who consciously took up arms to defend their homes, their families, their Motherland. To defend their language and their culture. To defend Russia. Because these people never separated from her. They consider themselves Russian. They want to live in Russia.
This right was taken from them a long time ago. And now, when they tried to restore this right, Russia does not want to help them reunite with their people, with their big Russian family.
It is difficult to understand and accept, that, over three months (it will soon be three months since we arrived in Slavyansk to help the local population defend their rights), that, over these three months, no real help has arrived.
I do not claim that Russia does not help. A huge stream of humanitarian cargo, equipment, uniforms, comes to us through private channels. But, that, which we desperately need, does not, at this time, arrive.
Please understand, that even if we get two tanks, four, even ten tanks, five-six artillery pieces, even if a plane flies here once, this will have no impact whatsoever. Over the course of the ceasefire, the Ukrainian army performed full mobilization and concentration of forces.
Over sixty heavy artillery pieces are pointed at Semyonovka and at Slavyansk at this time. At Kramatorsk. Two dozen MLRS systems, including Grad, Uragan and Smerch. Heavy mortars. All of them are pointed here. The enemy has so much ammunition – I did not see so much in Chechnya. In our time, we did not have so many shells. And the entire set of this artillery is shelling us without a stop. The supply columns are coming in continuously. They are transferring in more equipment.
Kharkov diligently repairs a dozen and a half armoured vehicles a day. We hit one or two armoured vehicles a day. No more than that. The enemy is able to grow its forces faster than it expends them. No just faster – much faster.
If Russia is not able to secure an immediate termination of fire and the execution of a truce, or if it does not step in with its armed force to protect us, to protect the Russian people that reside here, who are a part of the Russian nation, we will be exterminated. We will be exterminated in the course of a week, two weeks at most. And Slavyansk will be the first to be exterminated, together with its still-numerous population. Over thirty thousand civilians are still left here.
I am being asked to take on the responsibility for their death. And for the death of the Militia brigade under my command. We are ready to fight. We are ready to die. But we do not want to die senselessly, burying beneath the ruins of the city those people who believed in us.
Some believe that I am panicking, that I not ok. Yes, I am not ok. Every day, my soldiers are dying. The hospitals are overflowing with wounded. It is very difficult to see children without legs, torn apart by exploding shells.
We will continue to fight. But we desperately need help.
One imagines that those in the Kremlin would want to set certain things up before making a move. One of those things would likely be this kind of a video by Strelkov.
some recent tweets by https://twitter.com/spainbuca
A military coup may be brewing in Kiev with 2 different factions against the current president.
Family members of Kiev millionaires are leaving the country in a hurry. I say it again, possible coup brewing in Kiev.
Lots of weapons delivered to Kiev units for the operation in the East are disappearing.
En una semana hubo más vuelos privados que en todo un año
In one week there have been more private flights than in the entire year.
Novorossiya sources claim 4 VIP planes prepared for urgent leaving in Kiev’s airport Borispol http://vk.cc/2L9omR
Some of us are wondering if the Kremlin has actually had a coherent position in this whole mess. Not trolling here, just concerned. Vladimir Zotov makes this case in:
http://www.regnum.ru/news/polit/1821763.html
A couple of excerpts:
“One must have a true strategic genius to assume that the situation around the return of the Crimea, received initial development itself is exhausted, that simply returns the Crimea to Russia, Ukraine and all peacefully actually remain as before. Upon a complete lack of a clear political line towards insurgent Donbas, elementary failure to act in a negative scenario, led to the fact that Russia carries enormous political, economic, military, and just moral costs, the weight of which is growing day by day. The current gibberish masquerading as policy in the Ukrainian direction, perceived as weakness and lack of will and Russian society, and Western “partners” whose claims are becoming more radical.”
“Moscow simply does not know what to do, in her actions lack any hint of a system, it all comes down to the commonplace response and attempts to somehow delay the inevitable outcome, which can be anything, but in almost all variants extremely disadvantageous for Russia. This lack of clear, consistent strategic line and led to the current nightmare in Donbas. Kiev punishers never dared would like, if we were not confident that they have no reason to be afraid of Moscow and its actions.”
That was had to watch….
Time to act is now. No more talk. I pray that the multitude of poor souls who were murdered in cold blood by their fellow citizens, commanded by war criminals, did not die in vain and that there will be a definitive end within 24 hours. Clearly it is already too late for far too many.
My god what possesses people to lose their humanity in such a cruel fashion?
Hello!
I am a young Romanian academic training in the field of conflict studies and as such, I’m avidly following this blog for new information and analyses about the conflict in Ukraine, enjoying the insights that Saker and Juan are providing about the developments there.
I am trying to offer a perspective of a different sort about the current conflict in Ukraine and given the website limitations on posting in the comments area, my text will be divided in a number of sections. I can only hope that they will not be separated by other comments, so as to mantain continuity and clarity. Also, obviously, is slightly off topic with the title of the current blog post.
In my own attempts of analyzing the conflict I have tried to achieve some sort of neutral approach to it, although I confess it is no easy thing to do, given the fact that in our College anti-Russian sentiments are at an all-time high. These attempts have led me to develop a view of the current conflict which is rather different from those of my colleagues.
It may very well be “common knowledge”, “common sense” or widely shared by the blog’s readers, but I am trying to present a view which I hope is as closer to “scientific” as possible, while being totally aware that what I’m saying is by no means irrefutable, being just a tiny part of what should be a comprehensive conflict analysis.
Long story short, in my opinion the conflict is likely to continue in a violent form for a long time (at least until 2015), with a persistent threat of escalation, by the occurrence of the suspected, expected and awaited Russian military intervention. This hypothesis is based upon a number of factors that are prolonging the conflict, after the recent failed peace overtures. These are, in no specific order and not limited to, the following:
• radicalisation of conflict parties
• establishment of paramilitaries
• development of a war economy
• increased human rights violations
• weapons availability
• development of a culture of fear
(Source: International Network for Education in Emergencies, http://www.ineesite.org/en/)
The INEE model is just one among many other conflict analysis models which allows for a template to be used in order to understand a conflict. I must stress the fact that none of these models are fail proof, but they do offer an insight on how a violent conflict arise and what can be done in order to achieve a peaceful resolution and, generally, are the instruments which the scientific community is using in its study of various conflicts.
Some of the above factors have been discussed (sometimes exhaustively) on this blog:
• Radicalization of Novorossiya population and defense forces, especially after Odessa, Mariupol, Slaviansk, Lugansk – by Saker and Juan;
• Establishment of paramilitaries (by Kiev, various oligarchs, the DPR and LPR) – by Saker (the “brown shirts”, “Interahamwe” etc.). I know that the term may not be “welcomed” entirely, but the reality in the field is that the Novorossiya Defense Forces are not an institutionalized, regular army in the true sense of the word.
• Human Rights violations (by the Ukrainian army and Kiev paramilitaries) – by Saker and Juan;
• Development of a culture of fear – by military means: the shelling, strafing and bombing of civilians in order to generate a large number of refugees and, possibly, achieve ethnic cleansing of the Donbass, or by non-military means: the Odessa Massacre – by Saker and Juan.
End of section 1
Hello!
I am a young Romanian academic training in the field of conflict studies and as such, I’m avidly following this blog for new information and analyses about the conflict in Ukraine, enjoying the insights that Saker and Juan are providing about the developments there.
I am trying to offer a perspective of a different sort about the current conflict in Ukraine and given the website limitations on posting in the comments area, my text will be divided in a number of sections. I can only hope that they will not be separated by other comments, so as to mantain continuity and clarity. Also, obviously, is slightly off topic with the title of the current blog post.
In my own attempts of analyzing the conflict I have tried to achieve some sort of neutral approach to it, although I confess it is no easy thing to do, given the fact that in our College anti-Russian sentiments are at an all-time high. These attempts have led me to develop a view of the current conflict which is rather different from those of my colleagues.
It may very well be “common knowledge”, “common sense” or widely shared by the blog’s readers, but I am trying to present a view which I hope is as closer to “scientific” as possible, while being totally aware that what I’m saying is by no means irrefutable, being just a tiny part of what should be a comprehensive conflict analysis.
Long story short, in my opinion the conflict is likely to continue in a violent form for a long time (at least until 2015), with a persistent threat of escalation, by the occurrence of the suspected, expected and awaited Russian military intervention. This hypothesis is based upon a number of factors that are prolonging the conflict, after the recent failed peace overtures. These are, in no specific order and not limited to, the following:
• radicalisation of conflict parties
• establishment of paramilitaries
• development of a war economy
• increased human rights violations
• weapons availability
• development of a culture of fear
(Source: International Network for Education in Emergencies, http://www.ineesite.org/en/)
The INEE model is just one among many other conflict analysis models which allows for a template to be used in order to understand a conflict. I must stress the fact that none of these models are fail proof, but they do offer an insight on how a violent conflict arise and what can be done in order to achieve a peaceful resolution and, generally, are the instruments which the scientific community is using in its study of various conflicts.
Some of the above factors have been discussed (sometimes exhaustively) on this blog:
• Radicalization of Novorossiya population and defense forces, especially after Odessa, Mariupol, Slaviansk, Lugansk – by Saker and Juan;
• Establishment of paramilitaries (by Kiev, various oligarchs, the DPR and LPR) – by Saker (the “brown shirts”, “Interahamwe” etc.). I know that the term may not be “welcomed” entirely, but the reality in the field is that the Novorossiya Defense Forces are not an institutionalized, regular army in the true sense of the word.
• Human Rights violations (by the Ukrainian army and Kiev paramilitaries) – by Saker and Juan;
• Development of a culture of fear – by military means: the shelling, strafing and bombing of civilians in order to generate a large number of refugees and, possibly, achieve ethnic cleansing of the Donbass, or by non-military means: the Odessa Massacre – by Saker and Juan.
End of section 1
But we should also take a look at some of those factors which are rather less discussed in the media (mainstream or alternative). Among these I believe there are two very important which can, by themselves, influence greatly the duration and outcome of the conflict:
1. Development of a war economy: I believe that this subject is the least discussed. The only mentioning of something related is by Putin’s economic advisor Sergey Glazyev, who disclosed the process of militarization of Ukraine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWT5HM_NMlI), with Ukrainian armed forces expected to have around 500,000 men under arms by the end of 2014.
While those numbers may be subject to controversy (being approximated, guessed or just inflated for political reasons), the process is undisputed. But such a process requires the transition of Ukraine’s economy to a war footing.
We know that they lack money and resources, but we also know that they are receiving foreign aid, their commerce is (still) working and, generally, such shortages were common in many other wars and were overcame by those countries (Central Powers during 1914-1918, Germany during 1944-1945, Bosnian Serbs during 1992-1995, Syria since 2012 to name just a few).
This topic is also important in regard to Novorossiya’s ability to wage war against the Ukrainian army and paramilitaries. I do not have extensive knowledge about the region, but I know its geography makes it rather indefensible and open to incursions, which would make the creation of a Novorossiyan war industry capable of sustaining prolonged fighting improbable, to say the least. This will lead to dependence on captured weapons, munitions and other war materiel, or by covert/overt aid from Russia. It will also depend a lot upon the ability of Novorossiya’s state institutions to function as such, especially achieving financial and economic sustainability.
I believe that if on this blog Saker or some other authors could expand such a subject will help a lot in understanding the future dynamics of the conflict, including a preventive (or even preemptive) Russian military intervention, in order to scale back the strength of the hostile power at its borders.
2. Weapons availability is a direct consequence of the previous topic and has a major impact upon the duration, intensity and dynamics of the current conflict.
We know that Ukrainian regular armed forces and paramilitaries have at their disposal a powerful arsenal, inherited from Soviet Union and a working defense industry. I have read the February-May posts on this blog in relation to the condition of Ukrainian Army and I know that then it was in a deplorable state. But the scale and duration of the current operations in Donbass are signs that they are actively working of improving its quality.
Also, Ukrainian defense industry is active (I remember some statements about tanks being repaired in Kharkov) and the West (chiefly US) is offering various types of military aid (combat rations, body armor and so on), which has a positive effect on Ukrainian state ability to conduct the so-called “ATO”.
From Juan’s and Saker’s posts I know that the NDF are regularly “finding” various military equipment (caches of weapons, radar systems, artillery and so on) which enables them to resist. They are also capturing war materiel from their enemies on a regular basis. So in this respect, their ability to sustain combat operations is insured, at least in the short and possible medium term.
But a further discussion on this matter may be helpful in understanding NDF’s ability to resist. I know that this may be a “sensible” subject in relation to disclosure of military secrets, but I hope that not everything is “classified”.
End of section 2
If we look at the whole range of factors that are prolonging the conflict, we see that almost all of them are present, meaning that all the conditions for a long duration of the conflict are present. When combined with the unsuccessful “attempts of mediation” (in April) or “ceasefire” (in June-July), it becomes clear that at the present moment we are in for a long term violent resolution of the conflict (military defeat or victory of the NDF and the submission of Novorossiya’s population).
This violent resolution is a consequence of the lack of political will of the Ukrainian side to achieve a peaceful one. Ukrainian side includes a large number of actors (internal – individuals in positions of (state) power, state institutions, political organizations etc., and external – ranging from single states to international organizations) and requires an analysis on its own.
It also becomes clear that the conflict will eventually be measured in the endurance capacity of the current Ukrainian regime against the population of Novorossiya, which is another subject entirely.
Obviously, this hypothesis does not take into account an external military intervention by the Russian Federation, which will change completely the conflict’s parameters. Personally, I believe that if such an intervention will occur, it would try to achieve militarily a number of political objectives which aim to reduce/eliminate some of the above factors that are contributing to the prolongation of the conflict.
I must stress that the above demonstration does not, implicitly, mean that the conflict will necessarily continue. It just means that in the absence of real attempts for both sides for a peaceful resolution and the absence of a political will to roll back the last months to a peaceful coexistence, the violent conflict will continue. Should such goals emerge, then the above mentioned factors may be very well eliminated.
Given that the current political objectives of the sides in conflict are mutually exclusive (secession vs. unity), and both sides are willing to use violence in order to achieve them, the current level of hostilities will continue.
End of section 3
Sorry Saker,
Strelkov has badly damaged his credibility by screaming for Russian intervention at least 3 times that I know of. After one of his previous panicked calls for intervention, he later admitted he lied about or exaggerated the direness of the situation.
I have no doubt that the puppets of the Trotskyites in Kiev are perpetrating war crimes in the DNR, but Strelkov as a spokesman is damaged goods.
The situation in Eastern Ukraine is sickening, Putin must have a very strong stomach. I certainly hope you are wrong about 5th column ‘Russian’ media outlets like Lifenews having an agenda to stoke an intervention, but I have a bad you are right about this (note today’s live video of Official Russian territory being shelled by someone from the Ukrainian side).
Let’s see if the criminals in Kiev order a massacre of the population in the vulnerable parts of Ukraine…
Saker,
Is this what you have in mind when you said “I have to be honest here, there is a pretty good chance that all of the above will happen in the next 24 hours.
If that happens, I would like to remind you all that entering into a city is one thing, taking control of it is quite another. Think Beirut, think Grozny, think Baghdad, think Fallujah, think Gaza, think Bint Jbeil. Even if Poroshenko announces that Donetsk and Lugansk have “fallen”, this will be only a empty statement on par with Dubya’s “mission accomplished”. What will *really* happen is that the type of warfare taking place will change. Not only will it change, but the new (urban) type of warfare will almost completely negate the current huge advantage in aviation, artillery and armor of the Ukie side. So if these cities “fall” – please do not despair.”
Did you mean current situation on the ground? Is it anticipated?
Happy Fourth of July everyone.
We did this.
There’s not one “leader” in Kiev who dares scratch behind his ears without our permission. And may Joe Biden and his son rot in hell along with Obama, Bush, Cheney, and every single Neocon and Neoliberal on the face of the planet.
Enjoy your fireworks.
It is hard tounderstand why Strelkov’s statements fluctuate so much from positive to negative. You would think that every new development was a surprise to him. And now there is a couple of days of panicked statements after a period of relative optimism. He could not predict this turn of events? It is hard to believe. Why not start raising alarm earlier?
And who these appeals are addressed to? Whipping the general public into a state o frenzied anger and despair is not going to be of any practical help – they are not the ones making the important decisions. If he is talking to Putin, surely there are less conspicuous ways. Informing your enemy that you are barely holding on does not seem to be wise at all. Is he blackmailing the Russian government by saying: “either you help me, or you will be washed away by a wave of public anger”, i.e. making it extremely expensive for Putin to abandon him? One does seriously wonder.
What happened to that solemn commitment that Putin made just a couple of short months ago that he would not stand by and allow the Russian population in the east Ukraine to be massacred?
If Putin right now is not committing treason against his own people in Novorussia, then there has never been a single act of treason in the entire human history.
I have noticed Strelkov one day will have a confident tone and the next his tone is desperate. None of us here reading in our homes know if the Donbass Militia has the upper hand in this conflict or is on the verge of collapse. He is so up and down even the best poker player wouldn’t know if he was bluffing or telling the truth. If we don’t know for sure the Uke Nat Guard and Pravy Sektor probably don’t know for certain either.
That is why all they can do is bomb with long range heavy artillery and jets because they are too uncertain to advance.
I don’t want to write any more on that. Have confidence in Strelkov and the militia they made it this far.
Pray for them, have faith in them and celebrate their lives as martyrs and heroes IF they happen to lose their lives, not before!
Thank You Saker for this blog and all your work, I can tell from many of your posts you really put your heart into it.
Regards,
Stepping Razor (Canada)
Does anyone have the time and inclination to offer an English-language sub-titled version, or perhaps just a transcript, of this interview?
http://youtu.be/mAyBE0uRQ0c
Planned mass murder in Odessa on May 2. An interview with Irina Lashkevich, an Odessa-based journalist, on ANNA-News.
There are three other very important Youtube presentations, by some distance the most interesting I have seen, which deserve an English-language audience. They are from a three-part series entitled Odessa Tribunal Bloody Ashes:
http://youtu.be/HE2j8L9jDPc
http://youtu.be/BrU3mYPb9ME
http://youtu.be/ib8C3LtiWZI
My miserably inadequate best wishes to the Novorossiyan resistance.
Paul Rigby, UK
https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/showthread.php?13458-How-the-Odessa-massacre-was-orchestrated-by-the-CIA-controlled-Interior-Ministry#.U7b6DPldWSo
The West, the NATO war lovers, Kiev, the neo-cons are baiting Russia to invade.
Strelkov is baiting Kiev to fully assault.
Both are strategies. One is geo-political leading to economic war, sector sanctions.
The other leads to extremely heavy losses on Kiev’s armor.
Either that or Stelkov is a lunatic and is not trusted by Putin.
I believe Putin is waiting for a full assault phase to unleash the decimation of the Ukie Army.
That would also allow him to eliminate the Nat.Guard Private Sector-mafia paid militias,also.
The battlefield looks like an encirclement of the militia inside Donbass cities. Pull back and you see an encirclement by sea, Russia and Crimean based Russians, mobile forces and paratroops who could insert behind and cut off rescue for all the Ukies in the field.
Just playing armchair general, but think about the Order of Battle from Moscow’s POV.
NATO is rendered helpless by tactical nukes. Putin has said nothing less.
Therefore, there is no impediment to Russia doing what it needs to do. However, it needs to do it thoroughly and swiftly. It can’t leave stragglers, a cohesive command and control, remnants of the regime or capacity to create a lingering conflict.
That’s the planning that is taking so long.
And he has to absorb and support ten-12 million more people in Novorossiya. Huge budget hit.
Or, he can merely stop the Ukies in their tracks and leave all outcomes to subsequent machinations of psychopaths with billions and a bloodlust for Russia.
There is a part of me that, well, not so much believes as *wants* to believe that Strelkov is setting the stage here for intervention — yes, he’s asked for it before but now the situation he presents is totally dire and you will note that he is now stating explicitly that the percentage of non-locals were not Chechen but Russians volunteers.
If Petri Krohn is right — and it would appear that he would be — yesterday’s agreement gave Russia the opening she may need to go in under some sort of peacekeeping auspices.
If there is only business-as-usual and no coup attempt in Kiev, what would happen next? More to the point, how will we respond? Diplomacy has never been our strong suit…
Putin does not have the balls……and because of that he will pay dearly!
If he thinks US will leave him alone once they take over Ukraine than besides not having the balls he does not have the brain either!
Russian nation is very unlucky that throughout its history it has always been led by people who were too small (Putin apparently even physically) to lead such a great nation.
RUSSIAN INTERVENTION IN UKRAINE
It seems that Putin is working on the EU politicians and industrialists in order to establish Russian credibility to deliver energy and to maintain trade come what may. Many politicians will resist to the bitter end, but industrialists, the Germans in particular and in at least one case, the French (re: Mistral ships: see https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=mistral%20ships0) need to continue business as usual with Russia in order to profit and receive necessary energy supplies. The EU is economically moribund, its politicians/bankers are in thrall to their Anglo-American moneymasters and it is caught in what must surely be what appears to it to be a no-win situation. Its politicians/bankers will continue paying fealty to their moneypower masters to the bitter end, but their industrialists already see the writing on the balance sheet (6000 German companies employing 300,000 people conduct trade with Russia totalling about €76 billion in 2013).
Russia will intervene in Ukraine when the EU agrees to cross the geopolitical threshold that rejecting the Anglo-American moneypowers will entail. That will mean a major international crisis as this event will be a repudiation of NATO and may include the beginning of the formal end to the petrodollar (which the Russians and the Chinese are working on daily) and ultimately an end to the $US as the world’s reserve currency. Russia will not act militarily in Ukraine without the assurance, no doubt given privately at first, that the EU will not oppose such intervention and will not support Anglo-American attempts to respond economically or otherwise.
This may take many more months to accomplish. It involves establishing the ability to conduct commerce and the attendant credit systems and currency exchanges that underlie international trade. It explains the constant emphasis the Russian spokespersons put on negotiations between the principal parties to the conflict in Ukraine. The Russians have lately reaffirmed their agreements with Hungary, Bulgaria and Austria to finish the South Stream pipeline that will enable Russian gas to bypass Ukraine entirely. These agreements fly in the face of EU Commission efforts to subvert South Stream. The fact that Hungary, Bulgaria and Austria have insisted they will proceed with Russia on this project is an indication of how seriously these countries take their commercial relations with Russia.
This process will be excrutiating for those of us witnessing the trials the Ukrainian people are forced to endure. But for Russia to act before the above fundamental conditions are in place would lead to even greater suffering on the part of all peoples who are facing the psychopathic moneypowers who will use any means to maintain their power.
None of the above is an endorsement for whatever else Russia, or China, represent in terms of their current mode of governance. There is much to be decried there, but the Anglo-American moneypowers and to some incalculable degree the zionist interests, especially within the US power structure, constitute the world’s greatest enemy today.
Leaked: US think-tank plan on E.Ukraine suggests internment camps, executions, nationalizing citizens’ property
http://rt.com/news/170572-rand-east-ukraine-plan/
As for what to do with all the abandoned properties? Isreal has an old solution:
Leaked report: Israel acknowledges Jews in fact Khazars; Secret plan for reverse migration to Ukraine
http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/leaked-report-israel-acknowledges-jews-in-fact-khazars-secret-plan-for-reverse-migration-to-ukraine/
T1
Dear T1 (Anonymous @July 04, 2014, 20:25)
I hate to break this to you, but that 2nd link you provided (blogs.timesofisrael.com etc….) is a SPOOF ARTICLE! It’s a sarcastic joke interspersed with actual facts. The author parodied the names and statements of the people he made fun of (Schlomo Sand[a real historian], abu binomial, references to real genetic studies confirming portions of the Khazar theory, etc.).
I feel bad for you that you got taken in by the article. However, the RT link you provided regarding an alleged RAND Corp (US Defense thinktank) leaked proposal outlining advice on how to destroy, ethinically decimate, and steal the land & resources of the Donbass people is worth reading.
Even if this RAND memo turns out to be hoax, it is valuable because it lays out word for word what is already being done, in front of us, in Novorossiya. In addition, this exact modus operandi was executed by the Sri-Lankan military against the Tamils of Sri-Lanka, just 5 years ago, during the final assault on the LTTE (under the advise and guidance of private israeli and western experts contracted by the Sri-Lankan govt.).
At the very least, it’s educational: it outlines the malice and dirty intent that resides in the minds of the closet psychopaths that populate the ranks of military and strategic advisors. Remember every step outlined in that 2 page document has been carried out by so-called democratic governments in the last 10 years. It’s a good summary of the methods actually used by govts and the “international community” against innocent and inconvient civilian populations. I highly recommend people read it (even if it might be a hoax), because it outlines actual practices.
@hroerekr
Great analysis!
olivegreen (and others similarly) wrote:
“It is hard to understand why Strelkov’s statements fluctuate so much from positive to negative.”
I wonder how any of us would cope in the midst of such a nightmare. More than 6400 miles away, I’ve cried myself to sleep more than once, just reading and viewing photos and videos.
Strelkov writes (next to final sentence of the transcript above):
“It is very difficult to see children without legs, torn apart by exploding shells.”
@Lucky 19:39
Declared from beneath skirts of foreign powers. Actually, skirts within skirts: under skirt of Poland under skirts of NATO / Eu / Us… And even they are fed up providing photo ops (fluffing) for US.
Wot a f’ing country.
Honestly, if Maidan made any sense why is most of the world still ruled by constitutions, freely elected parliaments and rule by other than a mob?
I am so sorry that we missed this fast track Maidan option.