- Serious clashes have taken place in the city of Donetsk. According to most accounts, the newly appointed billionaire governor Taruta attempted to organize a demonstration in support of “a united Ukraine”. For his purpose he bused in from Kiev and western Ukraine. The local population organized a counter-demonstration. The cops tried to keep the two groups apart, but failed, and soon violent clashes happened. The Banderites were fewer in numbers, but were armed with metal bars, tear gas and other weapons, but the locals had the numbers on their side and eventually the Banderites had to withdraw. They were loaded in their buses under police protection and had to leave. At least one person died, many were wounded.
- In Lugansk the local SBU (security services), which is clearly under Banderite control, kidnapped the “popular governor”.
- In Chernigov gangs of neo-Fascists are attacking and looting shops owned by Russian speakers.
- Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov has declared that the new regime in Kiev is clearly unable to maintain order and that Russia reserves the right to protect the Russian speakers in the Ukraine
There have been a lot of speculations about the Ukrainian military and its actual capabilities. CNN even published this absolutely ridiculous chart:
So this might be a good time to look at what the Ukrainian military really looks like. Needless to say, that kind of information is typically classified and I don’t have access to any classified sources. However, I found a source which in the past has been rather reliable and who is well-connected with the Russian intelligence community: the reporter Evgenii Pozhidaev from the Regnum news agency. This is, according to him, the real condition of what is left of the Ukrainian military:
- 20 SU-27 of which 15 can fly.
- 80 MiG-29 of which 30 can fly (of a total of 45 MiG-29s were seized by Russia in the Crimea only 4 could fly).
- 24 SU-24 of which 12 can fly.
- 36 SU-25 of which 14 can fly.
The yearly amount of flying hours in the Ukraine is, on average, 17 hours, and in the best units 40 hours. In Russia the average is 110-130 hours.
- 30 S-300 batteries of which only 3 are in good condition
- 10 Buk 9К37 batteries whose condition is unknown
- 41’000 soliders of which 6’000 are fully trained and 500 well-trained
686 tanks, many bad shape, of which 86 can be considered as modern - 100+ heavy multi-launch rocket systems with well-trained crews
In contrast, Russia currently has 150’000 soldiers, 880 tanks, 90 combat aircraft and 120 combat helicopters deployed right across the Ukrainian-Russian border.
Bottom line: the Ukrainian military has a lot of powerful artillery units and an aging but still relevant air defense force. It can probably count on something in the range of 10’000 well-trained soldiers plus much larger reserves (ex Soviet military officers). A national guard of loyal Banderites of about another 10’000 men is in the process being created and this is the force which could be used in to keep an eye on the regular military and for punitive terror operations against the Russian-speaking population. In terms of armor, the Ukrainian military has many but old vehicles (MBT, APCs, IFVs,) protected by many short range air defense systems.
The Ukrainian Navy and Air Force basically exist only on paper.
The good news for the new regime is that all the evidence points to the fact that the SBU (the state security service, ex-KGB) appears to have switched its loyalty to the new regime.
Finally, the regime can probably count on 20’000+ armed thugs: a combination of the Right Sector brownshirts, mobsters hired by the newly appointed billionaire governors and volunteers from western Ukraine.
I think that a clear picture emerges from the above. It can be summarized in two basic conclusions:
a) The Banderite regime has more then enough forces to subdue, suppress, repress and terrorize the Russian speaking population in the south and east of the Ukraine. It’s large and well-trained artillery force is particularly dangerous for the Crimean Peninsula.
b) The Banderite regime has no hope at all to mount a meaningful defense against the Russian military. As Pozhidaev put it – “the Ukrainian Air Force can only be considered powerful by African standards”. That also goes for the rest of the Ukrainian armed forces.
The Saker
PS: if I promise that when this crisis is over we can have a long and open discussion on Hitler and the role of Jews in WWII, can we now pretty please stop this and discuss current events? I think that has the author of this blog I should have the right to ask you to at least suspend this tsunami of Hilter & Jews centered comments. Please, I really beg you, don’t force me to start censoring your posts and accept my offer of compromise – we will discuss all this at a later time and I promise you a full post on my personal views on this topic. Deal?
Dear Saker,
Not long ago you said nothing was off-topic except racist comments and bold and capital letters. I think you should define the comment rules better, so there are no misunderstandings. In any case “Zionazis” are mentioned every other post in the comment section, in most articles, and since Nazism and Zionism are constantly mentioned in your articles, you shouldn´t be surprised that comments deviate towards that subject.
@Anonymous: I think you should define the comment rules better, so there are no misunderstandings
Fair enough.
@EVERYBODY (and, yes, I get to use bold and caps!)
Ok, first, and at least at this point, I want to speak of my *request* not of *rules* (though this might happen if goodwill gets me nowhere). Second, there is no formal rule which a lack of basic common sense and basic goodwill cannot be interpreted as to allow for everything and anything. Third, this is like the definition of porn: hard to define, but we know it when we see it. But, anyway, I will give this group of posters the benefit of the doubt and assume good will, common sense and basic courtesy on their part and offer the following:
1) let’s stick to current events and those topic which are directly, not peripherally, relevant to them. “Jews are the cause of all evil since the dawn of humanity” -type of arguments are a prima facie clear violation of my request.
2) at least for the time being, let’s avoid off-topic arguments also. For example, differences between races are an absolutely fascinating topic, I think, one which the corporate media totally overlooks and censors and one which I find most interesting. However, at this point in time, they are not helpful to my blog.
3) The merits, or lack thereof, of National-Socialism and Fascism as well as the issue of who is mostly to blame for WWII are other legitimate topics, but ones which I want to discuss only when the current crises cools down.
4) The role of Jews in general, and Zionists in particular, during WWII, their collaboration with the Nazis, and the nature of what is officially called “the Holocaust” is another most interesting and legitimate topic, especially considering the propaganda which the corporate media has been brainwashing the general public with, but again, this is a topic which I welcome and find interesting, but not at this moment in time. I would very much like to have an open and free discussion about that at a later date.
I think that the four principles above (not only their letter, but their spirit) can be understood by anybody with an IQ at room temperature or above and with a modicum of good well. Of course, some immature wise-ass or paid hasbara agent will find a “cute” way to keep on polluting this blog while formally pretending to play by these rules and if that continues to happen I will probably start, with immense regret, to sick their comments into the trash bin. I hope that this does not get to that, but I have to confess that I am getting mighty fed up playing the cop here instead of being a facilitator of intelligent discussions.
I ask for your understanding and support.
Thanks,
The Saker
This obvious geopolitical objective has received little comment but is one of the elephants in the room (NATO-ization being the other).
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insight/2014/mar/06/ukraine-crisis-great-power-oil-gas-rivals-pipelines
Censor the idiots, but bear in mind that there really is a struggle for power that includes far-right Nazis, International Jewry, and decent people who want to live with peace, respect, and self-determination.
That is “current events”.
I think the Ukrainian unity does not survive the May elections. The right will be muscled out by the usual suspects after which they will take to the streets against the IMF puppets.
Russian territories in Ukraine will agitate until there is no longer any appetite to hold them by the West and they will go to Russia. The average people will be driven by the comparative comfort of the Crimean and Russian life vs the chaos of the Ukrainian failed state.
The West will continue to push Russia on other world fronts, which will bring China into this as an active player.
The “black swan” will be the global economy which appears very shaky at the moment.
Ultimately, the West will accede to buffers between it and the Eurasian pole; essentially abandoning the neocon (Jew) model of total control (New World Order). And we will all live in peace while resources are available.
I commend you for exemplary patience, Saker! :-)
I have never seen any blog or forum who could maintain reasonable discussion without a “cop” shooting down trolls. So what you’re trying to do, relying on common sense and goodwill alone, will be a first if you succeed, which I hope.
Back to topic:
The Ukraine defense Chief himself gave a “bleak picture” of state of Ukrainian armed forces
http://en.ria.ru/world/20140313/188364958/Ukraine-Defense-Chiefs-Report-Paints-Bleak-Picture-of-Armed.html
We learn, among other things, that:
– Less than 20 percent of armored vehicle crews have sufficient training
– Over 70 percent of tanks and other armored fighting vehicles are “outdated Soviet-made T-64 tanks that have been in service for 30 years and more.”
– “Out of 507 combat planes and 121 attack helicopters, only 15 percent are serviceable,”, while “Because of poor training of crews, only 10 percent of them are capable of performing combat tasks.”
– Because of the 2001 ban on missile launches imposed after the crash of a Russian Tu-154 passenger jet, so far only 10 percent of Air Defense Forces servicemen “have mastered the required level of theory and practice,”
I will post two links that explain everything there is a to know about “Ukraine” and Ukrainian nationalism.
The first, a Western article from 2010 quite correctly equates “Ukraine” with the Holodomor. For Ukraine the Holodomor is like the Holocaust for Jews. Without the Holocaust the state of Israel would cease to exist. The same goes for Ukraine, without the Holodomor there is no independent Ukraine.
Deleting the Holodomor: Ukraine Unmakes Itself – Alexander J. Motyl, 2010
The first thing Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovich did after his February 25 inauguration was delete the link to the Holodomor on the president’s official Web site. Yanukovich’s predecessor, Viktor Yushchenko, had made the Holodomor—the famine of 1932–33 produced by Joseph Stalin and responsible for the deaths of millions of Ukrainian peasants—into a national issue, promoting what Czech novelist Milan Kundera famously called “the struggle of memory over forgetting” as part of his attempt to move the country toward democracy. That Yanukovich turned his back so dramatically on this movement to rehabilitate Ukraine’s tragic past indicated the extent to which the recent election was as much about identity as it was about politics.
This was no accident. Thanks to the 2004 Orange Revolution, Ukrainian national identity has become synonymous with democracy and the West. And thanks to Vladimir Putin’s construction of a newly assertive Russian state, Russian identity has unfortunately become associated, as in Soviet times, with authoritarianism and empire. Yanukovich’s Party of Regions has its electoral base in Ukraine’s southeastern rust belt, the Donbas; the region produced, and is still proud of, both Communist Party leader Leonid Brezhnev and Stalin’s favorite proletarian, the coal miner extraordinaire Aleksei Stakhanov. It names its streets after Stalinists, displays statues of the Soviet dictator, and retains its Soviet-era identity as a Russian-speaking enclave with an authoritarian political culture. When president-elect Yanukovich decided to turn back the clock on Yushchenko’s Ukraine and reestablish its role as a client of Moscow, it was natural that he should begin by shutting down discussion of what historian Robert Conquest called Stalin’s “terror famine.”
The second is a Canadian book from 1987 that exposes the Holodomor myth as a hoax.
Fraud, Famine, and Fascism – The Ukrainian Genocide Myth from Hitler to Harvard – Douglas Tottle, 1987
This book documents how and why fraudulent stories about the Ukrainian famine of the 1930s made the presses worldwide and have become accepted as fact by almost everyone, despite the fact that they are provably false. The stories of millions of deaths caused by famine in Ukraine in 1933 and 1934, supposedly caused by the effects of the Soviet system, were fabricated by Nazi propagandists in their propaganda campaigns against Bolshevism. The spread of these stories to America took route through the presses of William Randolph Hearst, who has also since been proven, as I have documented on this website, to have been working in collaboration with the Nazis and publishing Nazi propaganda in mainstream American publications throughout the later half of the 1930s and into the 1940s.
These fabrications, which are well documented in this book, have become almost completely accepted as facts by Americans, and these fabrications have been repeatedly used, and are still used, by politicians despite the fact that they are provably false and were provably produced by a Nazi conspirator. The fact that William Randolph Hearst was conspiring with the Nazis during the 1930s is proven outside of this book, and is a part of official American government record, yet his fabricated publications about the Ukrainian famine are still referenced as fact today.
Also interesting:
Vice-Prime Minister in Kiev Vitaly Yarema announced yesterday that the recently founded National Guard could be soon sent to South and East of Ukraine.
He told RIA Novosti that “sending of National Guard troops to the East and South of the country is possible”, adding that these troops would be deployed at the Russo-Ukrainian border. “As soon as the ranks are completed, we will send them to the most crime-infested regions”
Here is the link: http://fr.ria.ru/world/20140313/200710068.html
It’s in the French version of RIAN site… I could not find it in the English version (error from my part, perhaps?)
Given that Russia reaffirmed again today that it “reserves the right” to ensure safery of all Russians in Ukraine, that policy on the part of the Kiev government does not appear very wise.
When you get to power in conditions that not all regions of your country look as legitimate, it seems commonsensical that you need to send people to those defiant regions… Emissars and negotiators, not troops!
In general, the Kiev authorities do not seem to have understood the need for them to moderate and to compromise. The US and European hard (at least in words…) reaction to the Crimean referendum runs a strong risk of further emboldening the February 22nd regime.
This situation has a strong potential for further worsening.
I think it is a mistake to appeal to “trolls” with reason or “pretty pleases” – just ignore these people as if they don’t exist (even though I personally happen to agree with some of their sentiments; here and now is not the place). That is a much better policy, in my opinion. I very much look forward to the discussion about “Jews” and the great European fratricide known as “World Wars I and II.” You can’t talk about Hitler or World War II or “the Jews” (i.e., the Jewish question) without talking about World War I.
Saker, I’m curious about where you think this is all going. I’m probably not alone in this. Do you foresee Russian troops entering eastern Ukraine before this crisis is over? How likely do you think that is? Will Kiev be able to suppress resistance in SE Ukraine without the kind of casualties that would force Russia to intervene?
I’m guessing that the West will now start arming the Ukraine. The gap between Russia’s and Ukraine’s military capabilities will probably start narrowing from now on.
@Afterthought,
Not organized Jewry, organized psycopathy, they can wear any sort of skin, but what drives them is similar to what drives those creatures that have wrecked so much havoc on the Syrian people.
Saker, this being your house, therefore you being the host, you have every right, if not the obligation, to kick anyone out of your estate, if they violate basic hospitality guidlines, that a lot of the so called primitive peoples of the world implicitly follow.
A light house attracts many things, not all of them are seeking the way, some just want to figure out how to destroy the light house, for it preturbed their sweet night.
US drone intercepted in Crimean airspace – Russia’s state corporation
http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_03_14/US-drone-intercepted-in-Crimean-airspace-Russias-state-corporation-2994/
“An American scout-attack drone was intercepted in the Crimean sky, the Rostec state corporation reports. “Judging by side marking, the MQ-5B drone was part of the 66th US brigade of military intelligence with the main location in Bavaria,” the report on the website of the corporation reads.
According to the report, at the beginning of March, the American brigade was relocated to the Ukrainian Kirovohrad, from where drones commit reconnaissance raids in the direction of Crimea and Russian border areas.
Earlier, they reportedly appeared in the Kherson region, in the area of the Crimean roadblock Chongar. “According to some data, the American reconnaissance brigade had 18 MQ-5B drones in its arsenal. This is the second time the American UAV is intercepted over Crimea,” the report says.
“The drone was at the height of about 4 thousand meters and was practically invisible from the earth. It was possible to break the drone’s link with its American operators with the help of the EW (electronic warfare) complex Avtobaza. As a result, the device made an emergency landing and passed into the possession of the self-defense forces almost unbroken,” the report says.”
These recon flights raise the question of what purpose they serve. Are they gathering data for banderaite attack on Crimea? Or are they looking for weak points in Crimean security for the bandera terrorists to use to infiltrate their terror squads into Crimea?
Interesting that the Russians are able to simply take over control of these American drones, apparently at will. That must be rather unsettling for the Americans.
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Crimea and Western ‘values’
By Pepe Escobar
Mar 14, 2014
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/CEN-02-140314.html
Israeli-American cyber attacks:
Hackers down Russian presidential site in ‘powerful cyber-attack’ http://rt.com/news/kremlin-site-attack-hackers-790/
&
Official websites of Crimean authorities hit by cyber attacks http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_03_14/Official-websites-of-Crimean-authorities-hit-by-cyber-attacks-7169/
Terror attack on Russian diplomat:
Russian diplomat attacked in Ottawa – Canadian media http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_03_14/Russian-diplomat-attacked-in-Canadas-capital-media-6441/
Planned terror attacks:
Operation Independence Continues – Anonymous exposes US invasion plans in Ukraine http://voiceofrussia.com/2014_03_14/Operation-Independence-Continues-Anonymous-exposes-US-invasion-plans-in-Ukraine-7517/
I’m sure the Russians know a lot more than they have released to the public about what Israel-America has planned. Could this training exercise be their way of sending a message to the ziofascists/fascists?
«Никто, кроме нас» (“Nobody but us”) http://www.vz.ru/society/2014/3/14/677018.html
(Auto-trans)”Airborne Soldiers carried the most extensive in the world landing in the Arctic
On Friday night the first time in Russian history, a mass landing operation in the Arctic. According Airborne Commander Vladimir Shamanov, in such difficult circumstances nobody in the world is no longer parachute jumping….”
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You’re sounding a little Yanukovich like there Saker. They will not be deterred by requests I think you should refrain from allowing them to post. They could well be trolls, advocacy groups or intelligence trying to discredit your site. Caution.
While the army in Ukraine is in shambles, remember it will not be the one who will fight the fight. Mercenaries from all over the world on the zionazi payroll are always available. The current zionazi regime in Kiev will keep the conflict inflated enough just to scare off the (pro)Russian population until it covertly gets armed to the teeth. Then, in one day, all those “who don’t like Ukraine can go to Russia” statement by Turchinov will be put in practice, which is the replay of the Croatian scenario.
And do you people know the epilogue of the Croatian scenario?
Croatia, ethnically the purest state in Europe, was admitted to the EU last year; it is now suing Serbia for, I am not kidding (!), “genocide!”
Go figure!
Saker, you are the owner of this blog. So don’t use the words ‘beg’, ‘deal’ and ‘compromise’ when referring to your readers. You don’t reach out to those racist trolls, they come to you. So the best remedy is to censor those SOBs.
US drone intercepted in Crimean airspace – Russia’s state corporation
An American scout-attack drone was intercepted in the Crimean sky, the Rostec state corporation reports. “Judging by side marking, the MQ-5B drone was part of the 66th US brigade of military intelligence with the main location in Bavaria,” the report on the website of the corporation reads. (…) This is the second time the American UAV is intercepted over Crimea,” the report says. (…) It was possible to break the drone’s link with its American operators with the help of the EW (electronic warfare) complex Avtobaza. As a result, the device made an emergency landing and passed into the possession of the self-defense forces almost unbroken,”
Read more: http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_03_14/US-drone-intercepted-in-Crimean-airspace-Russias-state-corporation-2994/
Your reaction please on this article:
http://www.nationofchange.org/straight-talk-us-and-ukraine-1394799785
Thanks, Ben
Sorry Saker, if a copy of my following email to some of my friends may not deal with the military realities of the situation. If you can’t laugh, you must weep.
I almost fell off my chair laughing so hard………… so the wine started earlier than usual today
Black comedy………….. Farce……………
The following quote should be amended to include the idiots who started this fiasco in the Ukraine
“Negotiating with Obama is like playing chess with a pigeon. The pigeon knocks over all the pieces, shits on the board and then struts around like it won the game.”
-Vladimir Putin — Accurately descriptive, but cannot be attributed to Putin.
http://www.acting-man.com/?p=29306
One way of curtailing the disruption of trolls is to do away with “Anonymous”. Have those commenting on your blog pick a name they wish to use, and then structure your blog so they have to stick with it. That way we can see who is commenting and skip the idiots.
Maybe it is all planned. Maybe the people on the other side do want to provoke Russia to act. They want western Ukraine to take one for the “team” be invaded. Maybe something is planned for such an eventuality. My elders used to tell me the white man thinks many moves ahead.
Mindfriedo
From Abraham:
@Saker: I recommend that you “pin” your comment above (the 14 March, 2014, 11:50 one) as a separate post. I further recommend that you create a header bar and create a “comments policy” tab where you copy-and-paste your comment above. I imagine that you’ll have readers who will miss your comment otherwise.
Regarding censorship, I imagine that it will become necessary for you. I hope this doesn’t bother you … This would not be “censorship.” Rather, it would be “moderate censorship by Saker of the comments on Saker’s blog so that the value of the commenting function is preserved from malicious or foolish agents.” Sounds much more reasonable, doesn’t it? :)
Personally, I wouldn’t care if you exercised mild censorship … After all, I respect your judgement. That’s why I’m reading your blog!
– Abraham
http://dailyreckoning.com/russia-has-already-won-in-ukraine/
Here is longer view of events in the Crimea/Ukraine. It looks like
Byron King joins the Saker in noticing the damage to US gravitas in being lured into a trap where boots on the ground trump soft power of propaganda and bribes. I congratulate Russia on refusing to sell the Russian soul for money and fake status of the Anglo-Israel-USA empire. Thank you for your contribution to reason, history, and principle in matters of geo-politics, Saker.
What I’m wondering is this:
I know Putin will go far, possibly all the way, to defend russias access to the Crimea. That’s for geopolitical reasons.
And I know that he would primarilly use the pretext (or honest intention) to safeguard the lives of russians in the Crimea.
But what I’m asking is whether it’s all geopolitics or whether the aim to protect ethnic russians abroad is sincere?
I am aware that public opinion inside Russia proper plays a part in this also. There protecting russians abroad and standing up to their aggressors is a big deal. I know that.
But what are his main motivations? Geopolitics or protecting his people? Or both?
I’m asking because while Criea seems like a done deal the answer might be informative as to how Russia will deal with the rest of Ukraine, esteciallly the eastern provinces. Will he stand up for russians there just as hard as he stood up for russians in Crimea or will he abandon them because they do not live in as geopoliticallly important areas?
A good read:
“From Now on, No Compromises Are Possible For Russia”
http://www.testosteronepit.com/home/2014/3/10/from-now-on-no-compromises-are-possible-for-russia.html
“American drone MQ-5B intercepted in the Crimean sky by the Russian electronic warfare complex “depot” /Avtobaza/”
here is the link: http://ruposters.ru/archives/3466
It’s in Russian tho.
Not sure how reliable is the source too.
Dear Saker,
Will you mind stopping repeat carbon-copy modern German propaganda which tries to get rid of the burden of atrocities done during the two World Wars from Germans’ shoulders, through introducing to world (common) language a mythical “Nazi” nation and de facto substituting all sort of “Germans” words to “Nazis” equivalent?
It were __Germans__ who started the WWII. It were __Germans__ who killed people methodically (they are practical people) trying to annihilate all nations.
It doesn’t matter whether someone was a member of NSDAP or not. They belonged to a “German War Machine” in that time.
They were __Germans__! Not “Nazis”!
Thank you.
Saker. You are a hypocrite.
You certainly believe in censorship, just by other means.
The list of facts showing (pretty much conclusively) that Hitler was a Jew was only posted five or so times on different threads and for the reason stated.
No one claimed these facts weren’t true. Not a single person.
And if any fact was suspect, people were completely free to say so.
The whole issue of Hitler being a Jew is actually very relevant to the situation today.
And, so what if that comment sat there among the other comments.
Again. So what if it sat there among the comments?
What’s the big deal?
The big deal is that the Jews here (which appears to be almost everyone here) hate the truth.
It really is that simple; Jews hate to see the truth.
Hi Saker,
I would suggest that you have a centralised discussion page (sort of a forum )page with a link on it on the side bar where all comments then can be inputted and begins to form a long thread of discussion.
Right Sector gunmen attack anti-Maidan activists in Kharkov – reports
http://rt.com/news/ukraine-kharkov-radicals-attack-982/
“…The incident reportedly began after a Kharkov self-defence group patrolling the city square noticed a suspicious Volkswagen van and tried to stop it. It was the same van involved in a shooting back on March 8, when one of the anti-Maidan activists was wounded.
When the driver refused to stop, LifeNews reports, activists chased the van to the building on Rymarska Street, where the office of Right Sector is located.
The shooting started after the activists tried to enter the building. Gunmen were also throwing flash grenades and Molotov cocktail from the second floor of the building, LifeNews reports.
Activists had to retreat waiting for police and ambulances to arrive. Meanwhile numerous videos of the incident captured by the activists and have been uploaded on YouTube…”
Also, Petri Krohn said…14 March, 2014 12:29
Thanks for posting the Tottle link. Very useful not only on the Holodomor myth, but on the origin of these bandera nazis.
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Please have a little fun in these sad times:
For those who understand German and Russian: “Madhouse” mocks Maydan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iej-kuaN1Mg
All going exactly to plan for the secret US government – create chaos on Russia’s border to engage and distract from something else brewing to completely disable Russia.
Regime change in Russia is one goal here, Ukraine is the initial play.
It’s unacceptable to the hidden world government (exercising power through the US military) that Russians should have ownership of significnt sovereign oil/gas resources and the influence that comes with it. Removal of Putin is one target – it does after all act other than in corporate/banking interests.
Ukraine has been planned for many years and Russia now engaged.
The intention is a large scale war where corporate/banking interests benefit on a grand scale as in the past. Think post war reparations and rebuilding rather than merely war financing.
US secret government believes it can pull off another european reconstruction post WWII type boom. Considers its military so superior to both Russia and China that North America is impenetrable and defences absolute.
Technological military adavances over the past 30 years have been staggering. Space based programs are in place (the missing $$Trillions).
Military R&D has not been on better gunpowder – high energy, RF and neurological interference weaponry is in play. Doubters should educate themselves about Operation Paperclip and what the US has been up to for the past 70 years behind the scenes.
Russia and China have no doubt been developing similar technologies but where they in speculation.
These scenarios now likely:
1. Putin assassinated either by overt or covert means. If he suddenly gets “cancer” or something similar then new energy weapons have been deployed (covert). The Russians would of course be aware of this threat. The benefit the “west” would see from an overt act is probably of more value though as it should create a more significant nationalistic/military response which is better for generating larger conflict.
2. A “false flag” event in the US that will quickly be attributed to Russia and therefore provide the pretext for a significant direct miltary engagement by the US, including ICBM.
3. A “false flag” event in an allied western nation such as Canada, Australia or UK. It would need to be of an obvious military nature to provide the pretext for significant response against Russia but would be hard to explain and probably not engage the duped US public in the way that 2 (above) would.
1 is most likely, Putin has significant public support at home so disposing of him should rally the nation is a response against the “west”. So an obvious assassination will be the clear preference, but whether it can be done remains to be seen. It would also serve as a warning to the establishment in China.
Otherwise, expect number 2 in the not-to-distant future.
In the meantime, economic sanctions designed to isolate Russia may have effect. The US are hoping for a WWII pre-Pearl Harbor type effect that results in a military response from Russia.
What is more likely is a strong economic response from Russia that the US cannot counter.
The simplest way would be for Russia to demand payment for oil and gas in Gold (not the paper variety, the real stuff).
The rush to gold should put an end to the US financial system completely and extremely rapidly. The US has no gold left – they refuse to allow audit of its claimed stash but the gold is gone and anyone who has doubts – do a bit of research – GATA for a start.
Russia knows about the gold, but it will probably result in the US “kicking over the table” with respect to the global financial system.
What comes next is already planned – some sort of new financial system in waiting – of course in line with the “New American Century”, which is just code for global corporate banking dominance.
This whole thing with Ukraine is an attemt to generate a much wider conflict to reset the financial system.
МОЛНИЯ: Обращение Народного ополчения Донбасса (LIGHTNING: Handling People’s Militia Donbass)
http://anna-news.info/node/14146
Ekaterina Gubaryov (Paul Gubarev’s wife) is saying SBU is arresting and beating activist leaders. Also bandera nazis are placing names and addresses of pro-Russian activists and those of their families on websites. One doesn’t need to guess why.
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Regarding the military aspect of the situation;
What do you make of reports of Blackwater (or whatever they are calling themselves this week) mercenaries operating in the East Ukraine?
If it is true, someone is paying their salaries and these guys don’t come cheap, so I don’t think it’s the regime in Kiev.
Typically, with filthy but practised bias, the BBC thug characterised the fighting as poor, beloved, Ukrainians, desperate to join the ‘Fee World’, attacked by evil Russian Putin-bots. And is not the ‘liberal’ ‘The Guardian’ acting with exemplary viciousness. They even had that mad dog ( apologies to rabid canines) Saakarseviley lying through his teeth, with truly Orwellian audacity.
Attempt to jam Russian satellites carried out from Western Ukraine
http://rt.com/news/ukraine-attacks-television-satellites-990/
“An attempted radio-electronic attack on Russian television satellites from the territory of Western Ukraine has been recorded by the Ministry of Communications. It comes days after Ukraine blocked Russian TV channels, a move criticized by the OSCE.
The ministry noted that “people who make such decisions” to attack Russian satellites that retransmit TV signals, “should think about the consequences,” Ria reports. The ministry did not share any details of the attack…”
Neocons thinking about the consequences of their actions?
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Maybe because it’s Friday, but it’s always nice to have a laugh once in a while. Remember a couple of days ago Russia made an offer to the new regime in Kiev that if they wanted they could do a flyover and see for themselves that the Russians were not massing hundreds of thousand troops on the Ukrainian borders? Nothing came of it, and do you know why?
As per lawful treaty, both nations have the right to do military flyovers of each other’s territory, but the country requesting the flyover must pay a fee to the other country before they can actually take off. Apparently the Kiev regime doesn’t have enough money to pay, and for some strange reason Russia doesn’t seem inclined to give the poor bastards any more loans. Making matters worse, sources inform me that Mr. Kerry’s credit card is at it’s limit this month and both Merkel and Obama aren’t answering their phones, although they obviously strongly support the new government.
Any bets on how many months (or weeks) the neo-nazi’s have before they are starved out?
http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2014/03/15/russia-says-ukraine-must-pay-for-military-inspection-flight.html
Боевики, одетые в милицейскую форму, готовят атаку на Донецк и Луганск (Gunmen dressed in police uniform, preparing an attack on the Donetsk and Lugansk)
http://www.km.ru/world/2014/03/14/protivostoyanie-na-ukraine-2013-14/734704-boeviki-odetye-v-militseiskuyu-formu-goto
Reports of increased influx of bandera nazis, with some in police uniforms. The people are very worried the bandera nazis will stage false flags and ramp up their provocations starting this weekend, and that the west wants to provoke Russia into entering eastern Ukraine.
That could very well have been the hope of the Israeli-American planners all along. Get Russia embroiled in a Ukraine conflict with the west running their usual terrorists and mercs. Pin the Russians down with another Afghanistan scenario and weaken them. Then move the destablisation op into Russia itself after they are sufficiently weakened and demoralised. That is a signature strategy employed by Brzezinski, and there is no doubt his disciples are heavily involved in this Ukraine destablisation op.
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I don’t buy into the notion that Russia has “invaded” Crimea, but if I had to be invaded by someone I certainly would choose to be invaded by Russia rather than the US. (Think shock and awe.)
Toronto Star Opinion/Commentary: “Neo-fascists are as much a menace to Ukraine as Putin’s aggression”
http://www.thestar.com/opinion/commentary/2014/03/14/neofascists_are_as_much_a_menace_to_ukraine_as_putins_aggression.html
“In a series of hacked emails received from “Anonymous Ukraine” it is clear that Pentagon officials working in concert with extremist elements in the Ukraine have carried out and are planning more attacks in Ukraine”….. ?????? http://www.presstv.com/detail/2014/03/14/354594/us-planning-terror-attacks-in-ukraine/
snigger….indeed:
Henry Bature Okelue @4eyedmonk 1h
When John Kerry says “we wont recognize [Crimean] referendum”, isnt he setting himself up? What if Crimeans(by some magic) vote “NO”?
Concerns as Ukraine’s govt hastily revamps Maidan squads into National Guard http://rt.com/news/ukraine-national-guard-squadrons-974/
“…Yet experts are already beginning to question the true motives behind the formation of the new combat force in Ukraine. Historian Vladimir Skachko argues that the Guard will be used to antagonize the Russian speaking population, and he has called the creation of the special force “legalization of neo-Nazi and neo-fascist batons.”
Citing historical examples from 20th century European history, Skachko draws a parallel with the SA, or Brownshirts, a paramilitary wing of the Nazi Party, which acted as death squads.
This theory appears to hold ground, considering the coming of extreme right-associated politicians to key posts in the coup-installed Ukrainian government…”
Death squads and terrorists. The face of Israeli-American imposed “democracy”.
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A quick piece of news I’ve found on an Italian site: it seems that some days ago some unidentified, yet armed and masked people have overseen the loading of about 20 heavy crates of unknown content onto an airplane in the Borispol(?) airport in Kiev which then took off for an unknown destination. Allegedly the “civilian” employees were told to mind their business and do not interfere.
The website cites the Russian newspaper Iskra as the source, which also states that a member of the former government (the Customs ministry) and an employee of the current government revealed that Yatseniuk signed an order to transfer the entire gold reserve of Ukraine (40 tons) into the US.
In Moscow today there were 2 demos, one in support of Crimea and another in support of Israeli-American fascism, cynically and duplicitously called “peace march”. And this “peace march” contained, in true historical zionazi form…
На «Марше мира» задержали участников с нацистскими флагами (On the “Peace March” detained members with Nazi flags)
“On the march” against the reunification of the Crimea with Russia “we detained a number of citizens, who carried a flag with symbols relating to the Third Reich,” – said the press service of the department.”
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Ukraine turmoil LIVE UPDATES http://rt.com/news/kiev-clashes-rioters-police-571/
“15:33 GMT: Gennady Basov, the leader of the Russian Bloc party and a deputy of Sevastopol City Council, was kidnapped Saturday by unknown people, the party’s press center said to the media. According to the police department of Sevastopol, they already received an official report about his disappearance and are taking measures to find Basov. The Russian Bloc party, which stands for the rights of ethnic Russians in the region, was formed in 2002. In the Ukrainian parliamentary elections in 2012 it failed to win any seats.”
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I forgot to post the article link in the 12:04 comment.
http://www.km.ru/v-rossii/2014/03/15/golosovaniya-i-referendumy-v-mire/734729-na-marshe-mira-zaderzhali-uchastnikov-s
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I don’t understand your remark about “IQ at room temperature”. The thermostat in my houe in heating season is set at 20 degrees. I don’t understand how anybody can have an IQ of 20. In the summer the conditioner comes on when it hits 25 or above. I don’t know anybody with an IQ of 25.
>> I don’t know anybody with an IQ of 25 >>
In other words, you’re not hanging around with any Ukro nationalists; good for you. On second thought, if you know people with an IQ below 25, my first conclusion might have been premature.
Maybe the funniest thing about these alleged “nationalists” is their grovelling before foreign powers. The Ukros are going to make truly formidable careers in the much renowned fields of toilet cleaning and commodified sex for the Greater Good of the EU. I suppose that makes them immensely proud of their country.
@Anonymous:I don’t understand your remark about “IQ at room temperature”.
Farenheit
” According to most accounts, the newly appointed billionaire governor Taruta attempted to organize a demonstration in support of “a united Ukraine”. For his purpose he bused in from Kiev and western Ukraine. The local population organized a counter-demonstration.”
I would be very curious what you mean by “most accounts”–I haven’t seen this mentioned in other media reports (western or independent Russian), which characterize both groups as local. Do you have a source other than RT?
Also, do you think it’s useful to refer to west Ukraine as “banderistan” “banderites” etc? I think characterizing an entire part of the country this way is a big oversimplification, though I guess it makes the narrative you believe in easier…