By Dmitry Orlov and posted with the author’s permission.
Last Thursday I reposed my “top ten signs that Russia has invaded the Ukraine” from 8 years ago when the Ukrainian regime change and civil war first started and the West continuously made claims that Russia had invaded. Well, last Thursday Russia did indeed invade.
Russia had the full legal right to invade the Ukraine from several perspectives: to defend its allies in Donetsk and Lugansk; to defend itself against Ukrainian WMDs, which the Ukrainian president threatened to start producing at the Munich Security Conference; and to stop NATO from continuing its advance toward Russian borders in violation of its previous commitment of “not an inch to the east.” Russia exercised its right of self-defense under article 51 of part 7 of the UN Charter. The Ukraine had forfeited its right to territorial integrity under the 1970 UN Declaration by refusing to honor the rights of its Russian-speaking population. It also refused to renew its Friendship Treaty with Russia and therefore no longer had a defined border with Russia that Russia was obligated to honor.
From a strictly legalistic perspective, claims that “Russia violated the Ukraine’s territorial integrity” or that this is “an act of Russian aggression” is just pure twaddle. From a moral perspective, the fact that the entire international community idly stood by and ineffectually discussed politics for eight years during which the civilian population of Donetsk and Lugansk was continuously shelled by the Ukrainian “anti-terrorist operation” is utterly shameful.
People who are now speaking out against Russia’s military action in the Ukraine need to answer a simple question: Where have you been for the last eight years while the carnage in Donetsk and Lugansk was going on, while people were being burned alive in Odessa, while the Ukrainian government organized terrorist operations on Russian territory and while the entire Ukrainian population has been forced to kowtow to Americans and to speak Ukrainian, most often against its will? If your answer is “I didn’t know” then you have forfeited your right to an informed opinion on what’s happening there now. Please keep that in mind and act accordingly.
Now I will go through the 10 predictions I made 8 years ago and see how well they held up in light of events that have unfolded for the past three days. A reasonable expectation would be that I got them completely wrong; if not, then that’s something of a minor miracle. Please keep that in mind also.
1. Ukrainian artillery fell silent almost immediately. They are no longer shelling residential districts of Donetsk and Lugansk. This is because their locations had been pinpointed prior to the operation, and by Thursday afternoon they were completely wiped out using air attacks, artillery and ground-based rocket fire, as the first order of business. Local residents are overjoyed that their horrible ordeal is finally at an end.
Not quite true. Donetsk and Lugansk is still being shelled sporadically, although most of the firing has been suppressed and as more and more territory is being liberated from the Ukrainian forces by the Donbass militia (with Russian forces playing a supporting role). At the same time, new possibilities for civilian carnage are resulting from the fact that the Ukraine’s Nazi battalions, under guidance from their US/NATO minders, are hiding heavy weapons in residential districts and using civilians as human shields.
2. The look of military activity on the ground in Donetsk and Lugansk has changed dramatically. Whereas before it involved small groups of resistance fighters, the Russians operate in battalions of 400 men and dozens of armored vehicles, followed by convoys of support vehicles (tanker trucks, communications, field kitchens, field hospitals and so on). The flow of vehicles in and out is non-stop, plainly visible on air reconnaissance and satellite photos. Add to that the relentless radio chatter, all in Russian, which anyone who wants to can intercept, and the operation becomes impossible to hide.
This is obviously the case. No sane person would now say that there are no Russian forces in the Ukraine. They made their presence about as obvious as they possibly could and the sight of endless columns of Russian military vehicles rolling unhindered through the Ukrainian countryside appears to be effecting a sea change in the mindset of the Ukraine’s population. Throughout history, it has always been quick to switch allegiances as circumstances and battle lines shifted, and this time will probably be no exception.
3. The Ukrainian military has promptly vanished. Soldiers and officers alike have taken off their uniforms, abandoned their weapons, and are doing their best to blend in with the locals. Nobody thought the odds of the Ukrainian army against the Russians were any good. Ukraine’s only military victory against Russia was at the battle of Konotop in 1659, but at the time Ukraine was allied with the mighty Khanate of Crimea, and, you may have noticed, Crimea is not on Ukraine’s side this time around.
Again, not entirely true. It turns out that there is a hardened Nazi embedded with each and every detachment of Ukrainian forces whose job is to shoot those who try to surrender. Nevertheless, some unknown number of Ukrainian soldiers have surrendered, signed a promise to no longer fight against the Russian army, and have been given some food and sent home. In all, the Ukrainian military is turning out to be no different from other NATO-organized, NATO-trained forces, be they in Afghanistan, Georgia, Iraq or elsewhere. All of them immediately turn out to be completely useless as soon as a real military force arrives on the scene, be it the Russians, the Taliban or the Islamic Caliphate. Also notable is the fact that the large quantities of weapons recently supplied to the Ukraine by the US have been shown to be completely useless. The Javelin anti-tank missiles, which helped line the pockets of some of the Pentagon’s top brass, have been worse than useless: by the time they can be set up to fire there is generally nobody left alive to fire them, so the soldiers don’t even bother with them.
4. There are Russian checkpoints everywhere. Local civilians are allowed through, but anyone associated with a government, foreign or domestic, is detained for questioning. A filtration system has been set up to return demobilized Ukrainian army draftees to their native regions, while the volunteers and the officers are shunted to pretrial detention centers, to determine whether they had ordered war crimes to be committed.
Not true at all. The Russian troops are not engaging with the civilians in any way, scrupulously avoiding residential districts and doing their best to see that the delivery of electricity, water and other essentials is not disrupted. As far as denazification, I am still not sure what the plan is, but my hunch at the moment is that this will be left up to the Ukrainians themselves. There is a good chance that once they realize what the Nazis and their Western masters have been doing to their country, they will do their best to round up the Nazis and hang them on streetlights. The Nazis will see this coming (some already do) and will run away to Poland or Slovenia or points further west.
5. Most of Ukraine’s border crossings are by now under Russian control. Some have been reinforced with air defense and artillery systems and tank battalions, to dissuade NATO forces from attempting to stage an invasion. Civilians and humanitarian goods are allowed through. Businessmen are allowed through once they fill out the required forms (which are in Russian).
The Ukrainian border guards along the Russian border have abandoned their posts. Some of them walked over to the Russian side and surrendered. The Russian and Belorussian borders are under control from the Russian and Belorussian sides. The western border crossings are crowded from all the people flying to flee.
6. Russia has imposed a no-fly zone over all of Ukraine. All civilian flights have been cancelled. There is quite a crowd of US State Department staffers, CIA and Mossad agents, and Western NGO people stuck at Borispol airport in Kiev. Some are nervously calling everyone they know on their satellite phones. Western politicians are demanding that they be evacuated immediately, but Russian authorities want to hold onto them until their possible complicity in war crimes has been determined.
Flight radar shows zero flights over all of the Ukraine. In fact, air traffic has been disrupted over much of Europe, with many airspaces closed and lots of new restrictions on traffic. Many vacationers, especially those from the Ukraine, are stuck wherever they are. The ones in Egypt are lucky: the Egyptian government is paying for their hotel stays while they are stuck there. The Westerners, on the other hand, having learned their lesson from the fiasco in Afghanistan, fled the Ukraine ahead of time. Since there is a long list of places for them to get the hell out of before their luck runs out, it’s good that they are getting the knack of it.
7. The usual Ukrainian talking heads, such as president Poroshenko, PM Yatsenyuk and others, are no longer available to be interviewed by Western media. Nobody quite knows where they are. There are rumors that they have already fled the country. Crowds have stormed their abandoned residences, and were amazed to discover that they were all outfitted with solid gold toilets. Nor are the Ukrainian oligarchs anywhere to be found, except for the warlord Igor Kolomoisky, who was found in his residence, abandoned by his henchmen, dead from a heart attack. (Contributed by the Saker.)
The number one Ukrainian talking head, the president-cum-comedian Zelensky, is hiding in a bunker in Lvov, Führer-like, surrounded by his Nazi henchmen. His jumbled missives to the faithful appear to have been prerecorded. At the same time, the information war is proceeding apace, with numerous new fake news items arriving daily, too many to keep track of. The real fun will start when the TV channels in Kiev get denazified and Ukrainians stir from their eight-year stupor, figure a few things out for themselves and become extremely angry at those who have been lying to them for eight long years.
8. Some of the over 800,000 Ukrainian refugees are starting to stream back in from Russia. They were living in tent cities, many of them in the nearby Rostov region, but with the winter coming they are eager to get back home, now that the shelling is over. Along with them, construction crews, cement trucks and flatbeds stacked with pipe, cable and rebar are streaming in, to repair the damage from the shelling.
This is yet to start happening. It will be a slow process, given that the number of refugees now, eight years later, is in the millions and scattered over numerous Russian regions.
9. There is all sorts of intense diplomatic and military activity around the world, especially in Europe and the US. Military forces are on highest alert, diplomats are jetting around and holding conferences. President Obama just held a press conference to announce that “We don’t have a strategy on Ukraine yet.” His military advisers tell him that his usual strategy of “bomb a little and see what happens” is not likely to be helpful in this instance.
This is definitely the case. The goal for Western leaders now is to look purposeful and strong while doing nothing of consequence. They keep talking about cutting Russia off from SWIFT bank messaging system, but keep recoiling in horror when they realize what they will mean for their energy prices (which are already dangerously high). The Russian posture vis-à-vis Western sanctions seems to be “Bring them on; we are ready!” Apparently, eight years have been enough for Russia to thoroughly prepare for this event.
10. Kiev has surrendered. There are Russian tanks on the Maidan Square. Russian infantry is mopping up the remains of Ukraine’s National Guard. A curfew has indeed been imposed. The operation to take Kiev resembled “Shock and Awe” in Baghdad: a few loud bangs and then a whimper.
Russian tanks are unlikely to enter the city center; they are concentrated on destroying military installations, demobilizing the Ukrainian military and destroying the Nazi battalions. There is indeed a curfew in effect in Kiev.
One more significant development worth mentioning: Russian forces are taking charge of the Ukraine’s nuclear installations, including the one at Chernobyl, which is now under joint Russian/Ukrainian control. This will reduce the chance that the Ukrainian Nazis will try to blow up one of them on their merry way to hell. The Ukraine has 15 nuclear reactors, and since it is virtually out of other sources of energy it has been running all of them flat out. Two of them went off-line recently because of technical issues. Russia is working very hard to make Chernobyl 2.0 less of a possibility.
I am not sure what grade I should give myself for my predictions. Russia’s political and military planners have turned out to be quite a bit smarter than me, but this is not at all a surprise. After all, they have all of the intellectual resources of a huge, powerful country whereas I am just a guy with an office chair and a laptop.
Do I care to make some more predictions about the Ukraine? Sure, why not!
1. Donetsk and Lugansk regions will continue on their path of closer and closer integration into the Russian Federation. They are already part of the Russian currency space, their educational systems are integrated with Russia’s (same standards and procedures), their defense systems are fully integrated and diplomatically they act as a well-synchronized unit.
2. An area further west, probably encompassing the entire basin of Dnieper River and the Black Sea littoral, from the Belorussian to the Romanian border, will be part of a Russian zone. The regions within this zone will be given political autonomy within a general security and economic framework linked to Russia. The rough outlines of this area can be determined from the following language map. The areas in red and orange—is Russian-speaking and is naturally part of the Russian zone. The only two exceptions will be a Carpatho-Russian enclave (in purple) which will need to be administered separately and a Hungarian enclave (in green) that might as well be absorbed into Hungary.
3. Further west will lie a zone that will be wrapped in fancy paper with ribbons and bows and presented as an extra-special present to the EU to love to cherish and to suffer migraines and aneurisms over. Roughly speaking, the yellow area is Ukrainian-speaking and is an all-you-can-eat (please don’t choke) buffet for the West. It has relatively poor soil and high incidence of iodine deficiency and imbecility in the general population. It is also where Ukrainian nationalism comes from and where the current Ukrainian Nazi plague originated. The Russian stance should be (if I may be so bold as to recommend what the Russian government should do) along the lines of “If you like your Ukrainian Nazis, you can have your Ukrainian Nazis.”
“Where have you been for the past eight years while the carnage in Donetsk and Lugansk took place, while people were burned alive in Odessa, while the Ukrainian government organized terrorist operations on Russian territory and while the entire Ukrainian population was forced to bow to the Americans and speak Ukrainian, most of the time against their will?”
a lot of hypocrisy in the western media. The West loves to unfund law and order, forcing gender-neutral, non-binary, transvestite crap down our throats while trying to destroy Western history. And that’s before the white man takes the blame for everything and is forced to kneel and apologize for everything while making martyrs of criminals, the West is becoming feminized. Destroying family values while every corner reeks of drugs. The West is becoming a confused, crime-ridden mess. It’s as if he’s trying to destroy himself through liberal self-destruction. Russia is now what we used to be before we became Sodom and Gomorrah.
The Western system is Satanist. every natural order is inverted. There are Ukrainian soldiers surrendering.
That isn’t just confined to LPR and DPR. This is a flaw in Western society as a whole. We’ve been arming and helping Saudi Arabian Clown Prince bin-Salman in his OUTRIGHT genocide of Yemen. Starving kids to death and subjecting them to easily preventable disease.
If you can’t get the media to shine a light on that, even as bad as DPR and LPR were, they were not even in the same ballpark as Yemen.
Yemen is virtually as close to the Nazis. Maybe worse, because we should know and act better.
Western media exists to push propaganda.
Hmmm, if I didn’t know better, I’d say we’re The Evil Empire.
Perfectly said!
Good over view from Dmitry -The globalists are now committing suicide through their expulsion of Russia from their global system- For the sake of humanity,Russia must win. This is a Spenglarian “Blood against money” fight to the death.
Sabotaging a nation’s economy is an act of war no less than dropping bombs on a city. Russia would be fully justified to answer NATO’s “civilised” destruction of her economy with cyber attacks on Western banks as a “reaonable” next step. And, if this escalates much further, even to kinetic attacks on Western assets. The Irish car-bombed the hell out of one another in their last civil war and they were not banished from the human race. It was just “warfare,” you know, like “just business.” Putin just played the nuclear deterrent card, which suggests that the end game may be the long feared anthropogenic extinction level event if Washington insists on returning the favor (which they will, and then somehow raise the stakes). America and its Western lackeys simply refuse to even consider any off ramp to this escalation that Russia offers. That would be too demeaning for such an exceptional people. So, it’s back to the 50’s mentality of “better dead than red.” (Not that anyone is still “red” in Russia.)
Nuclear war is a very useful scary deterrent, but it is grossly exaggerated for propaganda purposes. As of today, 2,000 nuclear warheads have been detonated on planet Earth, and half of those in the air. We’re still here.
The total number of warheads likely to be detonated in a nuclear was is about 2,000, as it is unlikely that either the USA or Russia could unload their entire arsenal on one volley. Volcanoes are much larger forces.
Nuclear war would be very bad for those targeted. But it will not end life on earth, not remotely.
Just human life – very slowly and painfully. Our “practice sessions” have already begun the process.
I thought you were wrong so I checked. There were 2624 successful nuclear detonations so far.
Thank you for making me see clearer
You cannot be serious! Have you not heard of nuclear winter? That is when the ash and dust sent into the atmosphere by numerous massive nuclear explosions blocks out sunlight for several years. The reduction in sunlight lowers temperatures drastically and brings about widespread crop failures. People starve by the millions, and many wish that they had been killed in the initial explosion. Oh indeed, life on earth will not disappear completely, but millions of species, including most members of the human species, will.
Funny Alan: You sound almost as certain about the (inherently unpredictable) future as a climate scientist. I think baseball pro Yogi Berra had it more accurately:
“It’s tough to make predictions, especially about the future.”
Savvier than your average climate scientist! The truth is that we just don’t know with any accuracy what nuclear war – or all the carbon-dioxide that we’re pouring into the atmosphere, or all the idiot-made industrial poisons that we’re spewing out – will do. Not in detail. All we can say with any – genuine – certainty is that it won’t be good for business as usual.
Over quarter of the worlds wheat comes from Russia and Ukraine not to mention other important commodities.
You may not need a nuclear winter to see a bit of unexpected hunger in the west.
These sanctions ore going to hurt the west more than the east when you factor in the spiraling energy costs.
https://www.spglobal.com/commodity-insights/en/market-insights/videos/market-movers-asia/022822-russia-swift-sanctions-ukraine-oil-lng-india-south-korea-nickel-aluminum-steel-australia-wheat-sunflower-oil-shipping
A propaganda ocidental esta dominando o ocidente. A europa esta proibindo a agencia sputnik, e censurando jornais da russia.
13000 mortes e ainda falando???? lobby atlantista na Rússia? eles nunca passam a vida de russos…. 27 milhões na 2ª Guerra Mundial e bloquearam um processo por genocídio contra países nazi-fascistas. A China também não processou o Japão ainda. Porque?
Os ocidentais começam a ouvir agora… quando sabem que não podem ser salvos em suas maluquices feitas com antecedência. A única coisa que eles entendem é a força brutal que mata a todos…
Ocidente colocou a Rússia nesta situação, eles querem exterminar todo o povo russo da Ucrânia e agora eles colocam seus mercenários na Ucrânia para matar soldado russo bravamente vão lá sem matar civil de graça o país dos nazistas que por 8 anos continuam matando o povo russo no donbas.
Civil ucraniano em vez de protestar contra o ato de seu governo pela paz eles continuam atacando russos como sempre fazem no donbass, você não sabe o quanto as pessoas russas sofrem no donbass, você não tem ideia do sofrimento, e eles quero continuar indefinidamente matando pessoas no donbass sem aplicar o tratado de minsk, é uma pena o que o ocidente está fazendo.
A qualidade da liderança ocidental é simplesmente catastrófica. Essas pessoas não sabem história, não sabem economia, não sabem quais são os REAIS interesses de seus povos. Londres está pressionando pela guerra porque odeia a Rússia. Washington está pressionando pela guerra porque quer colocar as mãos nos recursos russos. E a Europa Continental (Alemanha) não tem ideia do que quer ou precisa ou quais são seus interesses. É como 1939, mas com palhaços como políticos.
É uma luta entre as duas potencias. O nazismo voltou e a Rússia vai ter de acabar com o nazismo da OTAN.
É a segunda vez que a Rússia tem de destruir o nazismo! E de repente desapareceu, nos MSM, a propaganda à “plandemia”, estando agora toda direcionada contra a Rússia.
Yandex translation of this sub-thread from the Portuguese:
Danilo Gentili Sbt:
Western propaganda is dominating the West. Europe is banning sputnik, and censoring Russian newspapers.
13000 deaths and still talking???? Atlanticist lobby in Russia? they never spend the life of Russians…. 27 million in World War II and blocked a genocide lawsuit against nazi-fascist countries. China has also not sued Japan yet. Why?
Westerners begin to listen now quando when they know that they can not be saved in their follies made in advance. The only thing they understand is the brutal force that kills everyone…
The West put Russia in this situation, they want to exterminate all the Russian people of Ukraine and now they put their mercenaries in Ukraine to kill Russian soldier bravely go there without killing civilian for free the country of the Nazis who for 8 years continue to kill the Russian people in the donbas.
Instead of protesting their government’s act for peace they continue to attack Russians as they always do in the donbass, you do not know how much Russian people suffer in the donbass, you have no idea of the suffering, and they want to continue indefinitely killing people in the donbass without applying the minsk treaty, it is a pity what the West is
Nikolaus Hagenau:
The quality of Western leadership is simply catastrophic. These people do not know history, they do not know economics, they do not know what the real interests of their peoples are. London is pushing for war because it hates Russia. Washington is pushing for war because it wants to get its hands on Russian resources. And Continental Europe (Germany) has no idea what it wants or needs or what its interests are. It’s like 1939, but with clowns like politicians.
Sun Tzu:
It is a struggle between the two powers. Nazism is back and Russia will have to put an end to NATO Nazism.
Orion:
It is the second time that Russia has to destroy Nazism! And suddenly, in the MSM, the propaganda of “plandemic” disappeared, now all directed against Russia.
The reality of Ukraine’s situation is that the Russians are acting with prudence. To understand the reason for the war in Ukraine; read a statement by E. Wayne Merry, an employee at the US Embassy in Moscow during the 1990s.
“We’ve created a webshop open to theft on a national level and capital flight, in terms of hundreds of billions of dollars, and the rape of natural resources and industries on a scale that I doubt has ever occurred in human history.”
In addition to the owners of the Military Industrial Complex; US Mighty invested billions of dollars in Ukraine (Biden, father and son stories) bribing Ukrainian oligarchs and neo/former Nazis, and giving them support to remove the legally elected president.
After what you are reading, Ukraine has lost its compass in the civilized world.
The current war is not about defending Ukraine and its citizen it is about the US interest.
What would be the purpose of the Military Industrial Complex and its NATO if they didn’t invent enemies like the Russian Federation and China?
The US is nothing but evil. Pure and simple. Nothing good about this murderous mafia. Anything. And I can safely include the UK in that assessment. the war drums are beating – this has now become a game of who will wink first. The Russians are in control of the situation. Europe is wrong to send weapons to Ukraine.
I feel (again) ashamed of my « government » (merely a Brussels, aka « civil nato », department) which announced sending weapons to prolonge the nazis using civilians as shelter…
Where is the « Shoah police » now?
I pray for the least civilian victims in Ukraine and for maximum retribution on nato and brussels thugs.
I am not sure you realize how deeply brainwashed the Russian speaking people in Ukraine really are. I have some family there and speaking to them feels like talking to a random Ukie propaganda spewing machine. I am not sure people there can be deprogrammed in any reasonable timeframe if at all. Frankly I think Putin should secure LDNR and Chernobyl (the other reactors are non RBMK so can’t be used for nuclear weapons) and let the rest determine their own fate.
You’d be amazed how quickly Ukrainians can change allegiance. They are very practiced at it. This makes extremely unreliable as allies, on the one hand, and not at all formidable as enemies on the other. Unless they are fighting alongside the Russians, they are absolutely hopeless.
I hear you Abu. I hope that the people of this unfortunate country can have some measure of stability and pride for homeland at some point.
Good map at end of article. It’s interesting to note that the yellow areas (around Lvov) are basically the ancient kingdom of Galicia–Volhynia, which was a vassal state of the Golden Horde and existed from 1199 to 1349. By the treaty of the Union of Lublin of 1569, all of the former principality of Galicia–Volhynia became part of Poland. In 1772, Empress Maria Theresa absorbed them into the Austrian empire, and the Habsburg/Uniate anti-Russian hysteria, hate and paranoia was completely interiorized by the population and is prevalent there to this day. Stalin was an idiot to annex it. It is poison. The yellow-blue flag of the Ukraine comes from the flag of the Kingdom of Galicia–Volhynia used in the 12th century. I don’t know about Orlov’s aspersions on their IQ, but they’re not weaklings – you have to at least admire them for punching above their weight and completely dominating a huge country. What happens in a few weeks when the Russian Army reaches Lvov will be interesting.
Aspersions? Look at this map: http://cont.ws/uploads/pic/2017/9/slide-img1.jpg
They didn’t completely dominate a huge country—the US did. They just got used as street muscle and torturers of men, women, children and small furry animals. America’s useful idiots, literally.
You can argue about how to dole out responsibility for this – but the ideology of Stepan Bandera (born in Galicia, father was a Uniate priest) as well as the 14th Waffen SS Division, also known as the 1st Galician, made a pretty successful attempt to become the national ideology of a whole country – very successfully, considering how insane it is. As for Galicians, the American Galicians I’ve known are indeed stupid, fanatical and tend to being neurotic and gay, but I haven’t known enough to broadly generalize, and I won’t bother anyone with anecdotal evidence, cringey-funny as the stories may be, so I yield the point.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/hundreds-in-ukraine-attend-marches-celebrating-nazi-ss-soldiers/
I would love to have an English translation of that map Dmitry. It looks interesting in it’s equitable division of colour for various early populations. Inquiring minds need to know.
red = regions with pronounced iodine deficiency
ochre = regions with partly pronounced iodine deficiency
yellow = regions with moderately pronounced iodine deficiency
green = regions without pronounced iodine deficiency
Good map at end of article. It’s interesting to note that the yellow areas (around Lvov) are basically the ancient kingdom of Galicia–Volhynia… should be renamed BANDERESTAN!
“There is a good chance that once they realize what the Nazis and their Western masters have been doing to their country”
Please watch this video & pass it on to as many as you can:
The CIA – 70 years in Ukraine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRicZc-cZ0I
Very good video. I also recommend Doug Valentine’s book The CIA as Organized Crime: How Illegal Operations Corrupt America and the World
A masterpiece for today’s hysterical West!
“Where have you been for the last eight years while the carnage in Donetsk and Lugansk was going on, while people were being burned alive in Odessa, while the Ukrainian government organized terrorist operations on Russian territory and while the entire Ukrainian population has been forced to kowtow to Americans and to speak Ukrainian, most often against its will? If your answer is “I didn’t know” then you have forfeited your right to an informed opinion on what’s happening there now. Please keep that in mind and act accordingly.”
Always a pleasure, Dmitry Orlov.
This is from the snake pit; Kiev. https://rumble.com/vvyxx8-what-russia-wants-from-its-invasion-of-ukraineand-why-zelensky-is-evil.html
Most astute observations of reality on the ground.
Excellent video. Should be watched by every US and EU citizen.
This is a must-watch video. Gonzalo Lira, from his hotel room in Kyiv, explains the Ukranian reality so articulately, concisely, and believably.
I listened to an interview with Scott Ritter last evening. Former U.S. military and arms inspector says the word he has received is that Chechen ‘hunters’, about 2000 of them have been sent in with lists of names of Nazi’s and any who committed crimes to ‘get’. And by ‘get’ is meant kill.
I don’t know if that is true or not. Mr. Putin made mention the intention to hold war crimes trials, which should be done.
Yes indeed, the Chechen Division, Mr Khadyrov’s men were paratrooped into the suburbs of Kyiv, after inflicting a heavy loss on Ukie Special Forces, actually ended up fighting their way to Kyiv proper. I ts all right there on Interfax.Ru.
The same said Chechens turned the tide in the Battle for Donbas Airport, Debaltsevo etc in 2015 causing a rout of the Ukrainian Army. They have been fighting in Syria, Libya and are personally available to Mr. Putin for special operations.
Yesterday’s insertion into the outskirts of Kyiv involved 200 helicopters, with only a few losses, probably technical, as the Russians were using heavy-duty Electronic Warefare systems.
I, being Muslim, they make me very proud.
So you should be! I keep on thinking of the pilot downed by Turkey and who was it that rescued him?
Orlov is wrong, i do not see a positive end for Ukraine when the real Nazis are not decapitated, the ones in Brussel. As long as they have the means to cause trouble, they will. They euro fanatics have a crusader like ideology regarding their european values.
Brussels will march on Moscow? Neat! I’ll get the popcorn.
I’ll get the body bags.
Orlov’s question is something I’m going to store on my desktop for quick access when necessary.
“People who are now speaking out against Russia’s military action in the Ukraine need to answer a simple question: Where have you been for the last eight years while the carnage in Donetsk and Lugansk was going on, while people were being burned alive in Odessa, while the Ukrainian government organized terrorist operations on Russian territory and while the entire Ukrainian population has been forced to kowtow to Americans and to speak Ukrainian, most often against its will? If your answer is “I didn’t know” then you have forfeited your right to an informed opinion on what’s happening there now. Please keep that in mind and act accordingly.”
Dmitry Orlov, Feb 27, 2022
https://thesaker.is/the-situation-in-the-ukraine-predictions-vs-reality/
Good idea!
Believe me, you have nothing to make excuses for… I would love to have you on my team. Also, you are being well… modest. Your writings are pretty much always brilliant, God bless….
The last sentence of the point 4: could it be “Poland and Slovakia”, instead of “Poland and Slovenia”?
Otherwise, well done.
no, the last sentence is correct! Slovenia is worse than Slovakia.
Slovaks are good people, not fascistoids like Slovenia.
[…]the warlord Igor Kolomoisky, who was found in his residence, abandoned by his henchmen, dead from a heart attack.
Does anybody have a source for this? So far I have not found anything from DuckDuckGo, nor Yandex in English; and I doubt Google or Microsoft Bing will announce it either.
The funny thing about Benny Kolomoisky is that he is a wanted man everywhere now: a war criminal in the Ukraine and Russia and an economic criminal in the US and its vassal states. Poor Benny!
Except in Israel, where he is a honorary “national” with passport, like the other Jewish oligarchs, owners & commanders of most of the local militias.
I think I am misunderstanding something… The death of Igor Kolomoisky, was that a prediction that has not (yet) occurred, or an actual event that happened but is actively covered up by western media?
Hi Dick. The warlord Igor Kolomoisky, who was found in his residence, abandoned by his henchmen, dead from a heart attack is found in Dimitri’s #7 prediction.
So, most of us here, will have no idea where or what has happened to our Igor Kolomoisky. Perhaps our Russian/Chechen/LDNR friends will find him, or maybe we will hear of Igor swinging from a lamp post.
God bless Dimitri and Saker. God bless Russia. God bless the people at this site who continue to support the efforts of The Saker.
Remember, keep your headup and your stick on the ice, and headman the puck, and hit the ba$turds hard.
That was part of his prediction from 8 years ago.
Your quote was the prediction of Orlov 8 years ago. It has not happened yet.
Bravo. Let it be known that there are some sane Americans who cheer on Russia. Hard days are ahead but we hope and pray that these are the dyeing days of the most vicious empire in history, as you have astutely predicted. No other words are necessary.
It took the U.S. one whole month to neutralize, defeat Iraq. And they bombed everything, even schools, and civilian shelters.
Russia is going about things differently, sort of in a hair-splitting way. to avoid civilian casualties, to the best of their ability.
Thank you for that very interesting article.
Meanwhile in the UK.
“Foreign Secretary Liz Truss has said she supports individuals from the UK who might want to go to Ukraine to join an international force to fight.
She told the BBC it was up to people to make their own decisions, but argued it was a battle “for democracy”.”
Well there you have it an English minister sanctioning UK citizens to go and die in a war to defend Nazism.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60544838
Greetings. I read your posts on Caitlin Johnstone’s site. Excellent observations.
What’s got me curious is what must be striking cognitive dissonance by Europeans on the issue of their Nazi legacy. For nearly the past 80 years Nazism has been strictly outlawed in most European countries. You can’t say a good thing about them, their Fuerher, their machinations or their legacy without facing a possible jail sentence and a stiff fine. (Who would want to, even to exercise one’s freedom of speech?) Even Americans who wander over the pond and say the wrong thing about the Nazis risk prosecution. Now, every country on the European peninsula is rallying round fully Nazified Ukraine and adulating its great patriotic leader who can put on a convincing Hitler impression as well as his comedy routine. What converted all the “Eurotrash” into hard core Nazis (besides orders from Uncle Sam)? Surely principles should trump mere politics, no?
Good luck on seceding from from the UK, if that’s what you want. I suspect you’d get Mr. Putin’s support, or at least his best wishes.
And yet USA/UK sneered when Russia said years ago that some of those in the Donbas were volunteers.
I thought that if this happened it would be like a declaration of war by the UK against Russia. And this would be the begining of a world war. Please, correct me if I am wrong.
Hi republicofscotland. Illegal activity under a foreign fighter law enacted in spanish civil war era. So truss needs to just be quiet . zels foreign legion sounds more suicide squad by the day.
I am half Welsh, seven sixteenths English and 1/16 french. I do not consider Liz Truss to represent my morals nor my views in any way whatsoever on this matter and her nationality has zero to do with this argument.
There are millions of English people who consider Truss’ behaviour the past fortnight to be incompatible with being an MP, let alone Secretary of State at the FCO.
This has nothing to do with domestic UK arrangements, as Sturgeon is just as much in support of Ukraine as Johnson.
This demonstrates the levels to which the UK has sunk.
It should be warning sign for all those in UK that they are under the total control of the elites who are behind a long term plan to take over Russia.
It wont serve them well in the end as almost the entire UK cabinet may find themselves under arrest before long.
In 1933 International Judaic Zionism declared war on Germany, for many reasons. Most were ridiculous, asking Germany to kneel.
Friends, today, International Judaic Zionism is after Russia.
They have succeeded in putting Russia in a position where Russia has/had to react or get taken down, on its knees, and fragmented.
This is a do-or-die moment for Russia, a war for Russia’s very existence. The world’s Zionist and not-so Zionist Jews will rally, and try to rally everyone, every nation they can to get this diabolical aim done.
The Joker card in all this will be how serious are Moscow’s allies. Especially China. Now mind you, just recently, Russia and China signed a Defense Pact. We shall see what happens.
Brother, they, the “God´s elected” declared war to Germany in 1916 in the middle of WW1.
Please allow me to add only one small comment to Dimitry Orlov’s commentary. He forgot to include the obligatory “(banned in Russia)” addition when naming “the Taliban or the Islamic Caliphate”
That was a small and understandable oversight on his part.
These are about a hour long and well worth the time.
https://consortiumnews.com/2022/02/27/watch-the-war-in-ukraine/
Thanks Saker and you Dmitry Orlov
Impossible to watch the video — CENSORED by YouTube as inappropriate and offensive… :-(
I didn’t have a problem just now. I’m also down loading them into my computer for later. May be by country?
Yes also unavailable in Australia – It is the local countries who are blocking access. I did get access by using the Tor Brower. It is amazing. Everyone should have it on their Desk top to use when needed. Only down load from Official site. https://www.torproject.org/ . This is a small app that does nothing until activated.
video 8 is missing in mediafire
Dear Mr. Orlov,
Regarding your comment “run away to Poland or Slovenia” I would like to tell you that public sentiment regarding Russia generally in Poland and Slovenia are much different. This is from my experience of talking with friends from Poland. Slovenians generally don’t see Russia so negatively at all.
Current moves of Slovenian goverment are probably dictated from outside. Slovenia is otherwise a very small and irelevant country. Our current prime minister is unfortunately very talented in provoking. You can check how he insults people (including members of European parliament) on Twitter. He even congratulated Trump for winning (in 2020) before final results.
Sorry, that was a careless mistake. I meant to write “Slovakia” not “Slovenia”.
He does have quite a talent for stirring up trouble doesnt he… It is in fact one of our prime minister’s endearing qualities.. unfortunately his talents are being wasted in service to the corrupt and incessently decadent west…
I spent 14 years post 1990, roving around Austria, Hungary, Czech and Slovak Reps, Slovenia and Croatia.on business. My take was that the Slovakians were treated with suspicion by all its neighbours as they were very light-fingered – even more capable than the Poles to steal cars and most districts seemed run-down…In contrast i felt totally relaxed when in Slovenia…this was like a mini-Switzerland, not a blade of glass was out of place, no sign of any accident damage or rust on any cars, the people seemed far more educated and knew several languages, they were astute businessmen, far more capable than their Croatian and Serbian neighbours at the time….their hospitality sector was fully developed and Slovenians tended to be very Pro-Russian. Russia liberated Slovenia and it was the UK that stabbed Slovenia in the back by handing over Trieste to Italy.and stopping an attempt by Slovenia to get it back through military means.
You’re very naive to trust Slovenians. All Slavs that have Germanic complexes (in this case wannabe Austrians) are not to be trusted. Their identity is permanently corrupted. This is exactly what’s happening to Ukrainians as we speak
As proud as declere myself as Slovenian, I am proud to be eternal friend…better to say Son of Russia! Whatever happens to mother Russia..mi s taboj! Same goes for brothers from Serbia!
Slovenians are a special case. Like other Mitteleuropean slavs they are indeed corrupted by inferior complexes in relation to Europe and Germany. Although, I had a grandfather who was Slovenian, and adopted orthodox faith and was a supporter of the serbian resistance tchetnik movement. 100000 Slovenians found refuge in Berlgrade during the war and asked to adopt the Othodox faith. The Church refused accepting only truelly motivated converts.
Well as Mr. Lee Lewis once advised, there is a whole lotta shaking going on.
Some are practising It-wasn’t-me-it-was-my-sisterness, and some are pondering what/who is for dinner.
Lets start with the context and preparations long ago and far away.
Ms. Nuland had gone to the trouble of dressing down perhaps to blend in, but the bedragelled black coat with faux fur collar had some of the ladies, perceived as probable supplicants, pondering out loud – Did she get it passed down from one of her relatives ?, whilst some less kind murmmered cheap bitch not to seem impolite.
Some understood that the procession came downhill from the Embassy and forecast that it not only started downhill, but likely it would continue downhill.
“The Mess that Nuland Made..”
Evaluation is a function of purpose, and purposes differ.
In the estimation of some Victoria Nuland did not make a mess but facilitated opportunities; the perception of opportunities differing.
Politeness tends to be valued in some social relations and hence some who perceived differing opportunities did not thank her for her service, whilst some others who perceived other differing opportunities did thank her for her service.
However some in Independence Square were disappointed not to receive sernik with candela (cinammon) with a warm strong coffee instead of plain bulkas, not even the one’s topped with soft cheese and raisins sold in the kiosk a stone throw away on the opposite side of Kreshatik – it was cold and windy after all – but the metro subway was crowded.
In some social relations the seeking of attribution is encouraged, but not in all social relations.
Consequently some believe in sole agency whilst others do not not disabuse them of their illusions in order to render them useful fools, not restricted to the consequences of forgetting to bring the salt.
After all she didn’t lose China – as a precaution she brought plastic cups which run out quickly.
Her forgetting the salt was not the sole reason that “The United States of America” gained an albatross, whilst the Russian Federation gained a new member which “The United States of America” tried to change into an albatross, but a condiment to the beliefs that “Victoria Nuland engineered Ukraine’s “regime change” since she was not alone in fuck-the-EU-ness, which apparently has been one of the successes with more to come.
Dmitry, I have a very bad hunch, Russia will just leave the Ukraine and let it stew in the Western zombification soup until it’s ready for another medicinal beating round.
What’s your view on the territorial integrity of the Ukraine? Small Narodni Respublki or let’s cut it in half one for you Eurorodents and back to the fatherland with the other? Or just a Somali-type of arrangement?
Please use a short sensible name. It has been edited. Mod
The Ukraine has forfeited its right to sovereignty and territorial integrity in the following ways:
– It did not renew its Friendship Treaty in Russia which defined its borders, leaving its border with Russia undefined.
– It did not protect the rights of its Russian-speaking majority
– It directly threatened Russia militarily, giving Russia the right to protect itself according to the UN Charter
– It militarily attacked Russia’s allies DPR and LPR, giving Russia the right to intervene on their behalf according to the UN Charter
Putin is a lawyer and you can be sure that he didn’t do anything illegal. He is a great stickler for international law and treaty-based relations. The scofflaws are all in the west.
No, UKN must regain its sovereignty after the troublemakers are removed and restricted from holding office.
Its not sound to merely ban them from holding office indefinitely but after a decade perhaps they may be allowed to have some limited representation on a new UKN Govt.
But what must be done is permanently ban external influence – the likes of Soros and other coming in funding UKN political movements (orange revolutions) that pander to their agenda. And that includes global corporations.
Political donations from external entities must be limited to certain maximum amounts and must be disclosed and publicly published.
The US and Canada & others dont allow direct foreign political interference / donations in elections (however those in UK EU send people over there and funds them).
Perhaps if all the troublemakers are in the western part of UKN as this map seems to indicate then partition it off in some way and let them run that part of the country perhaps. But perhaps many there might not want them in office.
The current Z administration there reminds me of bunch of 3rd rate euro-yuppie amateurs who couldnt run a fish & chip shop without stuffing it up. Their economic performance since 2014 reflects that.
Is former UKR pres. Pornoschenko…still in the Lvov ???…he post be there on trial…or he spill all beans in the Moscow….
I have seen pics of him yesterday on Colonel Kassad, in a photocall with the nazis, wielding machine guns. Dunno if they were from this week though…
I think the primary kinetic operations will be done by middle of next week (Feb 3-4). Then stabilization will take another month. During that time Western anti-Russian hysteria will reach fever pitch, and I hope Russia will let freeze Germany in the dark and without job. At least Russia should sell stuff only for Ruble and Gold. Then the question of the future of the Ukrainian oblasts will arise, and quite frankly Russia should just include them in the Federation. Anything else would just lead to decades of instability. Galicia (Greater Lemberg) can go to Poland. That would be a clean and logic solution. And until 2030 Belarussia should also join the Federation. If, however, the Anglo Empire and its vassals continue their provocations we might head into WW3. I am worried about fleet action in the Eastern Med. Also, Moldavia is a candidate, since Izmail can’t be held without taking Moldavia. Not even talking about Transnistria here; the Prut would make a good border. Then the Baltics are a potential hotspot. And finally Finland; their decision to join NATO would most likely lead to war. Ukraine was unavoidable, now any further escalation is in Western hands.
I wonder if the Ukrainian “police action” will be, or was designed to be, limited in scope to the Ukraine. My friend Mr Orlov seems to assume that it will be limited geographically… And we may hope it will be. But ongoing events seem to suggest another path. These seem in the overall scope to strongly suggest a denazification operation that’s intended to be global in order to establish a new global security system, and that’s not simply the Russian (implied and sortta state) goal – it’s also the Chinese and probably the Persian’s goal…and they can do it. I have even heard a report that claims that the denazification plan includes Obama and Clinton and hundreds of other. Evidently the Bear is Wide Awake… I think that claim/report is credible.
And we, noting that UK and NATO is “trying to interfere, is interfering”, we may remember this from a guy who does not bluff or lie>
“I would now like to say something very important for those who may be tempted to interfere in these developments from the outside. No matter who tries to stand in our way or all the more so create threats for our country and our people, they must know that Russia will respond immediately, and the consequences will be such as you have never seen in your entire history. No matter how the events unfold, we are ready. All the necessary decisions in this regard have been taken. I hope that my words will be heard.”
Turkey closed the strait to-day, to Russian ships.
I doubt very much the affair is limited to Ukraine.
“If you like your Ukrainian Nazis, you can have your Ukrainian Nazis.” – LMAO
Cute one. Very funny. Leave the EUSSR with the refuse of the region. I’m sure they’ll get full membership in the EU …. right after Turkey.
What’s next? The best to hope…some negotiation and surrender. How about Chinese and Indians peacekeepers along the future “contact line between Bielorussia and the Black Sea? A kind of damper zone controlled by the Chinese…..why not.
I would take that ‘veteranstoday’ article with a grain of salt, that ‘Tie down’ I guess you didn’t notice the Storm troopers tracked footage…was a joke.
Some ‘may be’ probable, but a lot of it is made up ‘nonsense noise’, based on twitter uploads by civilians cowering behind windows, and drive by photo-ops , full of propagandist opportunity to flow any which way the audience is served in raw.
No one can give an ‘accurate’ account of what is really going on, except in certain incidents.
Patience is virtue.
In response to “It is also where Ukrainian nationalism comes from and where the current Ukrainian Nazi plague originated.” I hope that Russia renames this region as BANDERESTAN before they formally wrap-up up this operation!
And how long do you think the new cold war and nuclear arms race will last? Because I don’t think Moscow would like US installations in western Ukraine either? Maybe they will do the mowing the grass approach that Israel is doing with Syria as an excuse to fend off Iran…
“I am still not sure what the plan is, but my hunch at the moment is that this will be left up to the Ukrainians themselves”
Moscow will(should) occupy up to dnieper river including Odessa and Kiev and leave the rest of the Ukraine for NATO.
Brilliant. Awesome commentary.The Ukrainians did learn something from their Soviet heritage. The USSR in WW2 used KGB machine gunners behind Punishment battalions. It seems they are using the Nazis in the same way.
Hate to be the slow kid in class, but there’s always one – so I guess I’m it.
Question:
Why would Ukie ‘Nazis’ follow & serve a B-List Jewish-Ukie comedian who is puppeteered by a Jewish-Ukie oligarch?
They don’t actually “follow” him.They follow the Jewish-Ukie oligarchs that pay them. The comedian is an expendable puppet that is there to rubber stamp legislation for the Zionist oligarchs. Much the same as nearly every country.
I am sure the hard core far right-wing elements despise him but tolerate him as long as they get their money and perks.
Ukraine’s denazification won’t be much of a problem. It will proceed smoothly like it did in the GDR throughout the 1950s — by way of self-purification. The more Nazi-minded folks left the place for West Germany. The Poles will be in for some funny stuff this time around. Hopelessly incapable of learning.
Kudos to the author. And, again on the subject of denazification: The Chechens take no hostages. The NATO cowards had better get the hell out.
Hi Epsa or anyone else. I hear a lot of references to “Nazis” here. What exactly does that mean? Zelensky is Jewish as are many of the other oligarchs in charge of the country.
Are these supposed “Nazis” anti-Jewish? If so, why aren’t they fighting against Zelensky to liberate the country? If they are merely anti-Russian, most people wouldn’t consider that to be a “Nazi”.
The winners write history, so the victors of WWII made the Nazis look really bad. However, if the Nazis had won WWII, would Europe currently be overrun by hostile foreigners and killing itself with “woke” ideology? I understand there is some bad blood between Russians and Germans from WWII, but Hitler never would have come to power without serious threats from communists. The globalist oligarchs you claim to oppose now supported the allies in WWII.
Anyway, I am sympathetic to the Russians here, but the throwing around of the term “Nazi” really doesn’t make any sense, except as a way to get woke people in the West to support Russia in this conflict. That won’t work (they are instead comparing Putin to Hitler and there’s 100% negative coverage), so I really don’t see the point and you are accepting their frame of reference.
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2022/02/25/the-hidden-history-of-the-incredibly-evil-khazarian-mafia/
It May Be that their religion IS something different from jewish as it was customary to The region aka Khazaria. Lenin relates there and Stalin came from Gruzija(Georgia) aka Khazaria.
Don’t you guys think that the West is intentionally pushing for this war to escalate in order to cover up the real reasons behind the coming inflation?
The war will provide a perfect cover as to why more QE is necessary to the banks to prop up their paper stock, while raging fuel prices will make sure every last bit of savings will be transferred from the middle class savings to the pockets of already very rich?
The great reset is happening in front of our eyes and they will have a perfect culprit to blame – Russia and Putin.
Scary times ahead. I pray we survive them
“The Javelin anti-tank missiles, which helped line the pockets of some of the Pentagon’s top brass, have been worse than useless: by the time they can be set up to fire there is generally nobody left alive to fire them, so the soldiers don’t even bother with them.”
Anybody explain this?
There is an old joke. A man buys a box of flea powder at a pharmacy, tries it out and it doesn’t work. So he comes back to complain. “How did you use it?” the pharmacist asks? “Well, I scattered it all over the place.” “Well, that’s not how you use it,” says the pharmacist, “You have to catch a flee, flip it on its back, tickle it until it laughs and sprinkle the powder in its mouth until it chokes.”
Same with the Javelins. When you see a tank, you need to go to a clear spot that has a direct line of sight to it. Then you have to shoulder the weapon, point it at the tank, flip the primer switch and wait a couple of minutes until it is ready to fire. Then you have a couple of minutes to fire it; if you don’t, you discard it and get another one.
Meanwhile, Russian tanks have a panoramic camera linked to an AI targeting system and a machine gun that takes out any threat it identifies at a push of a button and an active defense system that will take out the Javelin if the poor sucker does manage to get it launched.
Some say they are battery operated, if you fail to charge it, it makes a great club for self defence.
Cheers M
“you have to shoulder the weapon, point it at the tank, flip the primer switch and wait a couple of minutes until it is ready to fire. Then you have a couple of minutes to fire it”
In addition as Sean says, you have to find time the prior night to charge it (so share time in the orc lair with the smartphone charger, lol. For sure some fools will not sacrifice their PornHub electricity)
All this reminds of earlier methods that USUK used to empty responsibilities for ISIS and other extremists in Syraq – they would give them death missions, suicide charges against armored fortifications and other meat-grinders. It looks like Nazis and orcs are being thinned out.. suicided by RAF
‘La joie de vivre’ in the Anglo-Zionist camp.
That for one has to do with tactics. Infantry ATGM teams should keep to built-up areas. In the open field they are very vulnerable to combined arms tactics. And then it might be that they take a long time to activate, “spin up” their electronics and seeker head, acquire the target and fire. And during that time (20-30 seconds?) the team is very exposed to enemy fire. So they might fire one and then fall victim to counter-fire.
Of course the globalist elite pigs who are imploding the world economy deliberately WANT to cut off energy to the EU and cause price-inflation as part of their evil plans.
The same pigs who have the EU UK US under unnecessary pandemic control.
This is why an uprising there against them is also justified.
Putin & Russia should look at all the moves here – ahead – and in this chess game don’t fall for the traps.
Please consider watching this outstanding presentation by Patrick Henningsen of 21st Century Wire, summarizing what’s going on. Not necessarily revealing many new things for most of us here, but very valuable and persuasive for regular people who are bombarded all day long with msm news. Send it around.
https://twitter.com/21stCenturyWire/status/1498139046861811713?s=20&t=ct0R5Cua0WC_N20rjugp2g
“millions of refugees now in Russia”
how much, more or less? 2,3,4?
thanks for your work, cheers from Holland (plz denazify and demilitarize us, our gvt sucks)
In his predictions Dimitry did not mention the possibility of a Nationalist Neo Nazis proxy war organised by the West against any permanently occupied Russian Zone. However it appears the UK is about to let that cat out of the bag our stupid ignorant UK minister Liz Truss is threatening to bring Russia to its knees with a munificent list of hostile back breaking measures of which only a world power as influential and powerful as the UK can dream up. All of the costs she warns will be paid for by the UK public despite the imposition of unlimited free market exigencies on a hapless population (rising inflation, rent, food costs massive increases in fuel and heating costs) who will except this burden without complaint because the British State is the unquestioned patriarch of democracy and freedom exemplified in the ravages of its colonial past and the depredations of the Anglophile Empire in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria and now Ukraine. But just as the West in Syria supported terrorists with propaganda, munitions and recruits Liz Truss now intends to facilitate the passage of UK citizens to join the Ukrainian ultra nationalists and Nazis (trained by British forces since 2015) to fight against the occupying Russian s and the ethnic Russian speaking Ukrainians. Besides being a declaration of war against Russia this is also a cover for enlisting Neo Nazis groups like Combat 18 whose membership in the UK and 18 other countries will increase dramatically with government encouragement and support to fight in Ukraine since in their own words membership is achieved through participation in violent Neo Nazis activities. This unmistakably leads to the formation of a proxy type army of terror to be unleashed in Ukraine and Europe against Russia and the ethnic Russian speakers in Ukraine. We have here the oblique suggestion of a European Timber Sycamore operation organised by the UK and its security service M16 openly threatened by the foreign secretary on National TV. In context the US and UK have a long history of sponsoring the Bandera fascists in Ukraine throughout the cold war and to this day. These fascists and other radical Nationalists were key leaders and shock troops in making the Euromaidan coup and today control Ukraine’s government institutions. These violent extremists are already being trained and weaponised by the US/UK to maintain control of the Ukraine Government and ensure in the longer term the ascension of Ukraine to NATO by purging the country of Russian influence. It doesn’t get more blatant and warmongering than that pussycat!
(Timber Sycamore was a secret plan authorised by the US to arm train and fund Sunni Jihadists with the help of Arab countries like Qatar and Saudi Arabia to overthrow the Syrian Government of Bashar al- Assad)
I do not predict this scenario because I do not predict Russian occupation. It is not a stated goal of the mission. The stated goals of the mission are military neutralization and denazification. The neutralization is proceeding nicely; the denazification will be a long-term process but the Russians are collecting the information they will need to track down and neutralize virtually every single Ukrainian Nazi using big data techniques. The unstated goal of the mission is to trick the US and the EU into imposing harsh sanctions on Russia, allowing Russia to deliver a coup de grace using countersanctions that will quickly blow up Western economies.
Thanks Dmitry for that clarification but as Russia’s political aims are unstated can we be sure that Russia is confident in predicting that its mission will of necessity be limited to military neutralisation and denazification?
My growing concern is that the CIA M16 DGSE BND etc.are jointly planning a Syrian strategy for Ukraine whether Russia occupies it or not the aim being to complete the purge or cleansing of Russian influence culture language (people?) throughout Ukraine and by extension into Belorus and even Russia.These same psychopaths were responsible for the proxy war in Syria supporting brutal fanatic sunni jihadists to terrorise and massacre shia muslims christians and unbeleivers.
It is not clear in the current propagandised hysteria and hubris whether more rational voices in European Governments will prevail in foreseeing the destruction and instability this strategy will bring to Europe. Already UK and Danish Governments are openly encouraging their citizens to go and fight Russia in Ukraine where they will be enlisted trained and armed by Neo nazis with the covert assitance and funding of CIA M16.
I come here to read some sane non hyperbolic news and analysis in what id going on with Russo-Ukraine events. I am in west country, and note the Saker site is getting harder to load, in last days. it just time out or just breaks off when clicking hyperlink to another article. Hope you are not subject to DoDD attacks.
Loved and chuckled at final sentence. “…The Russian stance should be (if I may be so bold as to recommend what the Russian government should do) along the lines of “If you like your Ukrainian Nazis, you can have your Ukrainian Nazis.”
As you know, here in America, roughly only half of the US population are targeted as Nazi’s by the Biden/Progressives. Although most American’s are illiterate in geography and history, hopefully they can recognize the new supply of Nazi’s for their loving, caring hearts to hate.
We are a shit-show. Thank you Russia for showing us the way.
The end result of this will be a pro-Russian NovoRussia extending from Belarus to Romania and Moldova. There will be little left of Ukraine, which is a hopeless state riddled by religious, ethnic, and political differences between the West and East. The Western will be very poor, landlocked, and probably picked off in parts by Poland and Hungary and Romania. And the West will pay a huge price for attempting to destroy Russia for over three decades since the fall of the Soviet Union.