Dear Mark,
I want to use this opportunity to send you a sincere big bear of a hug! Your replies were perfect. I also want to express here my admiration for your restraint. We both know that for you and I each death, each person wounded in this ugly war is a wound on our soul, but for that BBC presstitute it’s just an opportunity to make yet another snide comments expressing his full contempt and hatred for the people we love. As Alexander Slozhenitsyn once said about another such arrogant russophobic liar “за это надругательство над всеми погибшими и подавленными — пусть его рассудят Небеса!”
Warmest regards to you and your loved ones,
The Saker
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BBC is a loyal, eager mouthpiece for the ground zero of western greed, cruelty and connivance – The City of London.
BBC=Boy Buggers in Cahoots
http://en.ria.ru/world/20140602/190304868/Crisis-Hit-BBC-Scotland-Faces-Summer-Of-Disruption-Amid-Claims.html
british b—astrd corporation is purely an English imperialism propaganda organ and nothing else. It cannot do right journalism even for its own british constituent part. It is a means of lies and deceit done for English pirate nation.
Destroy all bbc and liar british journalists by treating them as enemy combatant which they are. they facilitated and caused war crimes and havoc in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria ,Libya and now in Ukraine.
BBC is the public propaganda arm of M I6.
The CIA and mossad and MI5 MI6 etc are only tax dollar funded terrorist groups paid for with the taxes just like terrorist liar BBC.
quote “In reality, BBC’s World Service is directly funded by the US State Department and is insidious propaganda admittedly designed to politically subvert not only China, but Iran, Russia, and many other nations perceived by Wall Street and London as intolerable competition.”
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All mentions of the Saxons during the 4th and early 5th centuries referred to pirates and looters in Gaul and Britain-and this anglosaxon constitutes the core of what is called English nation which never left piracy and thievery in its short history.
http://www.presstv.com/detail/2013/08/06/317409/uk-encouraged-us-to-nuke-japan-in-1945/
US is a British Colony. Like Iraq ans gulf wars and Syrian war Similarly Afghan-Soviet war was directed by Britain. Role of the US is only to supply soldiers, hardware and $ and get a bad name.
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IN FACT NATO WAS CREATED BY ENGLAND TO FOOL AMERICANS INTO BULLYING GERMANY AND HARRASSING RUSSIANS .
I want to give Mark a bear hug, too!
-.it is race war between the english parasite race versus the rest of the world-the sooner the rest of the world realizes that better it is for the world.
in fact it was not America but england which asked for ABM against Russia. BBC spy journalists were harassing presidential candidate Gore not to go ahead with Florida recount on ground” ally like britian want to conclude AMB deployment in Yorkshire as soon as possible so there should be no delay in govt. formation.in other word accept fraudulent win of bush for sake of england ! “
look how germany wes villified soon after fall of soviet union-look how russia is being vilified immediately after Putin made russia strong.
such is the evil propaganda of british spies inside america. .
poland is nothing but a proxy for the british parasites.
It is no use targeting poland -target the main villain which is england and the english nation which must be neautered to do any more mischief the world.
a perfect world would necessitate the collapse of the Anglo-American empire as a pre-requisite to peace and prosperity for all rather than the scarcity and oppression for most under the current order
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==For 11 years London and Washington in pursuit of its hegemony has been sending troops, bombers, jet fighters, helicopter gunships, drones, and assassination teams into seven Muslim countries. Two of the Muslim countries, Iraq and Libya, and perhaps more depending on how you see it, have been overthrown by Washington and left in chaos.
Washington’s assaults on seven countries have blown up weddings, funerals, kids’ soccer games, farm houses, hospitals, aid workers, schools, people walking along the streets, village elders, but the Muslims don’t mind! They understand that the well-meaning Americans who love them and are committed to their human rights, are bringing them democracy and women’s rights. The million or more dead, maimed, and displaced Muslims are a low price to be paid for liberation by Washington.
Davies said that a proper examination of the Second World War showed that it was Stalin’s Red Army that smashed to pieces the Germans, with latest estimates suggesting that the British Army was responsible for only around five per cent of German losses in all.
cowards.
=Last year, British forces in Helmand province send a message to the Taliban that all major operations were carried out by the Americans, so if we did not target them, the British forces would not target the Taliban,” Nazir said.
May 5, 2011
Frederick Ogilvie, who succeeded the BBC’s founder, Lord Reith, as director general, wrote that his goal was to turn the BBC into a “fully effective instrument of war”. Ogilvie would have been delighted with his 21st-century managers. In the run-up to the Iraq invasion, the BBC’s coverage overwhelmingly echoed the government’s mendacious position, as studies by the University of Wales and Media Tenor show.
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Indicting the Messanger
BBC Joins Smear Campaign Against Assange and Wikileaks
By ISRAEL SHAMIR
The campaign by the establishment press against Julian Assange is intensifying. CBS’s 60 Minutes tried to trash him last Sunday, but Assange left CBS’ interviewer, Steve Kroft, floundering. Last Sunday
All lies-so gaurdian , bbc and al jareeza which has been infiltrated by the British fraud journalists are all telling lies as expected from the british crew.
historians like Peter Cain, John Springhall, and Piers Brendon paint a rather different picture. The British Empire did not suddenly evaporate, but played a key role in the transition to US global hegemony. From 1945 to about 1970, the Empire provided a kind of self-dismantling infrastructure that scaffolded the integration of large parts of the underdeveloped world, especially in the Middle East, into the new world system, before itself shriveling to nothing. Though remarkably quick, this process was not bloodless, requiring a series of vicious colonial wars and resort to internment camps, torture, extrajudicial killing, and the sponsoring of clandestine killing groups. Understood as a transitional mechanism for integrating former colonies and quasi-colonies into US hegemony, the British Empire may have formally ended (in this sense, probably around 1970 with British military withdrawal from its Gulf protectorates), but the political legacy of empire never did. British foreign policy has been subordinate to the US since 1940, and has taken as given its ancillary role in the new hegemon’s overt
Allowing british journalists is very dangerous-they are the spies working to destabilise al countries not under them.
10/02/2011, 00:08
besides whenever the english journalists infiltrate the news media or forum the news become propaganda for the english interest only. The same happend with CNn and is happening with al jareeza where english journalists infiltrated.
Another example is Russia today where the english journalists have hijacked the agenda of Russian tv.
Just one example out of thousand as to how much the english journalists do the propaganda for england even in Russian tv.
amongst those anti russian and the traitor media is Russia today and novosti. russia today is more interested in what happens in england than in what happens in russia-because it has been infiltrated by english spy journalists of worst kind whose political leaning is not only towards england but towards racist uk independent party who are against all foreigners except those who steal from their land and depsoit the money in british banks.in other words Russia today is infiltrated by british agents who help oligarchs steal from russia and other nations.
http://www.counterpunch.org/shamir02252011.html
Weekend Edition
February 25 – 26, 2011
The Guardian’s Sleazeball Hacks and Plagiarists
Cable Cooking and the War on Assange
By ISRAEL SHAMIR
The latest chapter in the quest for open government finds our embattled knight holed up within the grey brick Georgian walls of Ellingham Hall while the dark forces outside attempt a disorderly checkmate. The British courts have long debated whether to pack Julian Assange off to the star spangled torture chambers of Guantanamo, but have finally settled on simply extraditing him to the man-eating Nordic Amazons of Sweden, pending appeal. Meanwhile the chessboard has become crowded with ex-employees, ex-lovers, and ex-friends who compete among themselves to cast mud upon his memory. The same newspapers he enriched with headline stories gleefully prepare his epitaph, for no good deed goes unpunished among the masters of discourse. This is a very lonely time for our trusting hero, as yesterday’s oaths are traded for cold cash, and intimate confidences are betrayed.
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Napoléon was the greatest general of the western world in last 2000 years. He was a great man too. only mistake he did was not to attack England and kill the english race-instead he attacked Russia and destroyed 95% of his grand army. Napoléon should have attacked and burn england so that the world wouldn’t have to bear the curse of having english race on the earth. we can still do it by making Europe again fight
Against enligsh parsite shopkeepers .
The very fact that putin in 2008 did not change the constitution despite 80 % of Russian willing him to do so in order for him to run for presidency then and there , proves beyond doubt that putin is more law-abiding and democratic than any of the western counterpart who get elected on mere 35 % of votes and then act as dictators to impose their agenda .
Putin in fact should have changed the constitution because it was made by the british scumbags for yeltsin a traitor and agent of british and American agenda for destruction of Russia. Then the british made sure that presidency is more powerful because their man yeltsin was going to run it-after killing the parliamentarians and burning the parliament building with tanks and gun shots while the british were laughing off inside the kremlin.
According to the IMF, the global elite are holding a total of 18 trillion dollars in offshore banking havens such as the british controlled the Cayman Islands.
England as pirate rogue state today and yesterday.
Just as Britain is the save heaven for all kinds of wanted top political and financial criminals.
60% of the UK’s GDP is financial fraud, dabbling in stolen money from the third world with help of british approved dictators in those nations.-otherwise humanitarian bombing is coming your Way!
Money laundering is the business of English race-they never graduated from the piracy days.
It is upto tyhe civilised world to kill the pirates.
The Iron Chancellor said that “History is not made without blood being shed.” There is no escaping the virtual certainty that some, in these circumstances, will be.
Everything I’ve learned and experienced and observed over the years says that way to limit bleeding is outrun deteriorating events by moving rapidly and decisively. Russia has the military means, but is too sloth and indecisive-it needs to get aggressive and assertive and act fast and right.
Mark Sleboda clearly gets an A in terms of stating his case and providing information, and he’d get an A if you just read the transcript. But that BBC creature kept an even, unflappable, infuriatingly condescending and highly-sceptical tone while Mark showed the exasperation anyone in his position would feel. Ergo, while we see the validity of Mark’s points, the average uninformed BBC viewer would just hear his raised voice, compare it to the interviewer’s calm, in-control demeanor and probably trust that rather than any of Mark’s content at all.
There’s a real lesson in that, bc most anyone at this point having anything whatever to do with any Empires supporters will be facing the same thing — lots of tricks in there too, putting him down, not letting him say what he needed to, etc. I.e., different ways of silencing and/or casting aspersions, all of them outrageous. The only times I’ve seen this stuff challenged effectively have been when people went in KNOWING they’d get that treatment, kept a TOTALLY calm tone and spoke clearly and just slightly louder than normal with an even, slow, deliberate pace, and then either talked-over the interviewer’s (quite deliberate) interruptions, or quite deliberately, clearly and generally repeatedly but never showing much more than a little disgust and irritation after repeated efforts (yeah, this all requires a bit of acting) pointed out how they were not being allowed to finish. I actually think various media people get trained in how to do these biased interviews, and there ought to be some training for guests too.
Noam Chomsky is the master at countering this tactic. The key is to present your arguments is as dispassionate manner as possible. Reasonably counter disinformation with the simple facts.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/malaysian-airlines-mh370-and-mh17-a-criminologist-questions-what-are-the-probabilities-is-it-a-mere-coincidence/5392265
The article above examines some probabilistic oddities, among them the following.
The two biggest airline disasters in the space of about 4 months involve the same airline and the same model plane, and both lost communication contact and veered off course on unusual routes.
Then there is the July 17 thing.
Flight 17 chrashed on July 17
TWA 800 also crashed on July 17 (and was most likely shot down)
The inaugural flight of MH-17 occurred in 1997, also on July 17
The last Russian zar was killed on July 17, 1918.
Putin’s airplane had intersected MH17 path in Poland with about 20 minute diference.
What are the odds?
Maybe Putin has reason to be spooked?
Great answers except the claim, that Ukie forces are destroying much of the crime scene by air strikes. Given the radius of scattered debris this might be true in essence, but it would still be exaggeration. And I saw no reports of fighting on the main spot where the rest of the plane exploded which is what will come to mind anyone listening to this claim.
Kudos to Mark from me too.
As someone with experience of being interviewed often by the BBC on a controversial domestic issue where I was similarly diametrically opposed to the government/BBC line, I have to concur with Nora.
Mark needs to slow down just a bit, modulate his voice just a tad lower and try not to show exasperation.
I thought his rejoinder to the “…are you just a Putin mouthpiece?” perfect.
On a separate issue, I am very uneasy about Cameron’s claim that the flight recorder data will be analyzed in the UK. I guess the the Dutch have every right to ask for that. I don’t know anything about either the technicalities or protocols involved here but – I reckon both Malaya and Russia need to insist on being present when the seals are broken and requiring duplicates to be made and handed to a demonstrably neutral third party (if such a party exists in todays world) immediately.
The British really the masters of both disinformation and deception. They absolutely CANNOT be trusted in a matter of perceived ‘National-interest’ importance and there is a great deal riding on the contents of those boxes.
@Nora – Yes.
Right on Mark! “Are you simply a mouthpiece for David Cameron’s government?”
We need a lot more of the same!!
It’s a pity there is no subtitle in English.
URGENT: Ukraine army is transporting 5 car sized SS-21 ballistic missiles toward Donetsk from the south
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OTR-21_Tochka
Eyewitness in Donetsk identifying Ukraine 5 SS-21 missiles being deployed
http://www.malaysia-today.net/mh-17-crash-issue/
Does this paper have any clout? Anyone know anything about “Malaysia Today” and why they would publish this?
Lord Reith on fascism:
In 1975 excerpts from Reith’s diary were published which showed he had, during the 1930s, harboured pro-fascist views.[22] On 9 March 1933 he wrote: “I am pretty certain … that the Nazis will clean things up and put Germany on the way to being a real power in Europe again. They are being ruthless and most determined.” [22] After the July 1934 Night of the Long Knives, in which the Nazis ruthlessly exterminated their internal dissidents, Reith wrote: “I really admire the way Hitler has cleaned up what looked like an incipient revolt. I really admire the drastic actions taken, which were obviously badly needed.” [22] After Czechoslovakia was invaded by the Nazis in 1939 he wrote: “Hitler continues his magnificent efficiency.”[22][23] Reith also expressed admiration for Benito Mussolini.[22][24] Reith’s daughter, Marista Leishman, wrote that her father in the 1930s did everything possible to keep Winston Churchill and other anti-appeasement Conservatives off the airwaves.[25]
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Reith,_1st_Baron_Reith
Paul Rigby, UK
i hope, everyone of you know that we are all doomed if they get away with this.
the empire will win this if putin and russian government will continue to behave like the weak guy on the schoolyard…
i understand what people on novorossias side think about putin –
https://beta.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/senate-bill/2277
with this he will have war with the NATO anyway for crimea, so it’s meaningless to speak of “western partners” and so on.
there are no partners, they want him to resign or something worse and sell out russia, simple like that.
and the commenters in this blog are the last defense for the freedom and truth – but it’s like it is in novorossia – 20000 out of 8000000 against them all.
no way to win this..
I thought he was awful. He was manipulated into losing his cool so he never mentioned proof that the video evidence was fake.
He should have started every response with “No. I don’t accept that, because …” and immediately given all the reasons the Ukranian position is fake.
Finally, he could have said “No, RT provides a lot of critical, and verifiable, information that is omitted by the western media because the west is a party to this conflict.”
Simple.
He should have said that wild animals were eating the bodies and that out of respect something had to be done. He could have said all of that succinctly and calmly. After reading Saker’s blog I could have done a better job. Borodai CERTAINLY did a better job at his news conference.
Saker,
I believe Putin is going to put a humanitarian force into Ukraine. What will happen next is anybody’s guess.
A lot depends on the American people. People in France, Germany, Britain want no part of a land war in Ukraine.
Nuclear war? I don’t think so.
That “interview” is a prime example of why there is no fixing anything. That was totally staged. The Talking Head was only interested in getting an admission of guilt from Sleboda. No interest in learning, discussion or facts. Just making “the masses” feel good about the direction their leaders are taking them. Ironically, “the masses” are not as many people as they use to be. Still, no fixing our world. It must crash and burn. I don’t mean revolt against our governments. Bullsh*t only lasts so long. It will end with a BANG! and a whimper. Try to survive. Stay true to decent values.
I pray that Putin is a true statesman. (if not, there are none on the world stage.) I believe that he is, but I do worry from time to time (not that I feel he should be acting differently in at this time) .
Given the technology we have, the world could rebound relatively quick under good leadership.
God help us.
Nora makes excellent points – it is a difficult task to effectively cut through such a load of bull and maintain a dispassionate demeanor. As someone else pointed out the interviewer was not presenting facts but a combination of conjectures, distortions and misinformation. The OSCE monitors have generally praised the militia doing a difficult task under the circumstances and have been there the whole time. The main criticism of weight is that they were unable to secure the site, but of course that is impossible for them given the circumstances and their available manpower.
Dear The Saker,
Mark did ok in a very controlled question style from the BBC presstitute who kept trying to push the MSM narrative.
I think Mark got enough over but unfortunately wasn’t allowed to speak much or have the time!
I think they increased the volume so he sounded louder;(…..
Rgds,
Veritas
Sleboda Rocks! I love this guy. Everything he said and more.
I Think I’m Going To Buk
Scanning the press coverage I am impressed with the really global nature of this conflict and on how many fronts it is being waged simultaneously. Can also see that Russia is seen as the key player to attack – without Russia the BRICs don’t have critical mass at least at present. Russia with its links both to Europe and Asia is really in the crosshairs.
Thanks from Berlin to Mark Sleboda
There are many more Europeans I meet sick & tired of the current US administrations BS.
My wife & I could have been on that airplane as we have relations in Malaysia & were living close to Amsterdam thinking of going on the same route to KL.
Kiev & the CIA special ops DOD disgust me.
If my wife would have died on that flight I am 100% certain that i would have become another statistic going ballistic.
These CIA handlers false flag boys & Kiev lunatic MF have to be stopped and castrated permanently.
I am convinced that they will stop at absolutely nothing to try and achieve their global full spectrum dominance goals
Everything Sleboda said is true but the problem is as we can see they’ve succeeded in provoking an emotional response. Any ignorant idiot in the UK or US who relies on the British Bullshit Company for information would be put off by watching him and remember, the truth is usually not what persuades people. Its a slick presentation repeated endlessly until its “true”. We have to come to understand that these people aren’t especially stupid, at least they know they’re lying. Media stooges and government apparatchiks aren’t going to be persuaded by our truth . They aren’t misinformed they are malevolent. When the RARE opportunity comes along to present the truth in the MSMS we have to do so evenly, convincingly and with the facts, speaking directly to the people.
EXCELLENT! he was great in all his replies.
I would had replied:
“Are you a mouthpiece for lies?
because I am a mouthpiece for Truth!!!”
Only idiots would believe the mainstream media that is the mouthpiece of the Western lying governments.
Interpipe Steel of the richest Ucrainian jewish oligarch Victor Pinchuk is already going bust. It did cost 700 million euro. Production of pipes was intended for the Russian Federation and Europe has no need of such Ucrainian items.
http://www.corriere.it/esteri/14_luglio_22/cosi-stato-colpito-l-aereo-0a7e5f9e-115f-11e4-affb-3320a03d21e8.shtml
Interpipe Steel of the richest Ucrainian jewish oligarch Victor Pinchuk is already going bust. It did cost 700 million euro. Production of pipes was intended for the Russian Federation and Europe has no need of such Ucrainian items.
Apparently the US is now saying the rebels shot down the plane *by mistake and with no Russian involvement at all*. Mmm. Sounds to me like a shady deal to cover the obvious false flag.
People I know, with no knowledge of what is going on in Ukraine other than what is presented in the MSM, do not buy ‘the Russians did it’. There have been and are too many lies from the TPTB that what they now say is just automatically discarded as more BS.
Lifenews report about downed MH17 they thought was an AN26 & said rebels shot it.
[English subtitles]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjUpRD6yMYg
Putin has just announced that Russia is not under threat and that she will now exert greater control over the anti-fascist resistance: http://news.yahoo.com/did-putin-just-bring-russia-cold-202745709.html.
This seems to be a rather unambivalent backdown.
I don’t know the situation as he does, but it seems Russia has more trumps than Putin is willing to pay.
I feel terribly deflated.
Mark is often a very passionately intelligent, welcome voice on CrossTalkon rt.com. As for voices speaking up in the USA, Ron Paul is one of the few voices who spoke up about the rush to judgement and the big lies around the Malaysian crash. It is insane that mass bombing campaigns of civilians are justified by any civilized nation…This is not WWII–this is collective punishment by excess force for no understandable reason. Both in Donbass and in Gaza. May we hear more voices soon.
I feel the intensified military action around the crash site signals the ukie intent to stifle any serious investigation.
ST in Patagonia
Whistleblower: U.S. Satellite Images Show Ukrainian Troops Shooting Down MH17
What I’ve been told by one source, who has provided accurate information on similar matters in the past, is that U.S. intelligence agencies do have detailed satellite images of the likely missile battery that launched the fateful missile, but the battery appears to have been under the control of Ukrainian government troops dressed in what look like Ukrainian uniforms.
The source said CIA analysts were still not ruling out the possibility that the troops were actually eastern Ukrainian rebels in similar uniforms but the initial assessment was that the troops were Ukrainian soldiers. There also was the suggestion that the soldiers involved were undisciplined and possibly drunk, since the imagery showed what looked like beer bottles scattered around the site, the source said.
Hard to watch. But HAS to be watched and must be spread. Every day they do this. It’s unbearable. This needs to be catalogued, kept, for trial time.
https://twitter.com/Black_Bomb/status/491683090041819136
Major climb-down by “senior intelligence officials”, particularly in comparison with Kerry’s remarks yesterday. In an Associated Press story released this afternoon, they say now that it is only “likely” that missile fired by rebels, and that determination is based mostly on the photos and social media. “the officials said they did not know who fired the missile or whether any Russian operatives were present at the missile launch.”
The officials used the video allegedly showing the missile launcher crossing the Russian border as an example of their evidence. “But later, under questioning, the officials acknowledged they had not yet verified that the video was exactly what it purported to be.”
Long before MI5 and MI6 became three letter designations of the multiple British bodies of spying, subversion and military intelligence, the BBC was created to be the propaganda/PR arm of the British government. Today, every BBC foreign correspondent is required to be an associate of MI6. Every BBC domestic correspondent only gets employment on the say-so of MI5- and MI5 has offices in every major BBC facility (when this little fact became public, a few decades back, it caused quite a scandal).
The BBC was instrumental in creating Iranian PressTV, Russian RT, and Al-Jazeera- all of which were originally run from London offices. Today, PressTV and RT are largely out of the control of the British, but Al-Jazeera is now based in British Military Intelligence facilities within Qatar. Every Al-Jazeera report about the ongoing zionist Holocaust in Gaza includes a line stating that the Palestinians started it with their “rocket attacks”. Subtle, eh.
The British exploit the idiot idea that ‘foreigners’ have of British ‘democracy’ and ‘fair-play’. But the elites that rule (and ruled) Britain mastered the art of being ‘two-faced’ centuries ago. The vileness of the BBC can be witnessed in the unthinkable sex crimes of the BBC’s greatest figureheads, like Jimmy Savile (who was provided with sound proof ‘rape rooms’ by the BBC wherever he worked).
Being angry at the evil propaganda emanating from the BBC is like being angry that water is wet.
From RIA Novosti today :
“We’ve asked the Commission and External Action Service to prepare proposals for action including an access to capital markets, defense, dual-use goods and sensitive technologies, including in the energy sector. These proposals will be presented on Thursday,” Ashton said after today’s EU foreign ministers meeting in Brussels.
These people are indeed morons of the highest order, shooting themselves in the foot to please the empire who couldn’t give a monkeys if the whole European economy comes crashing down, would in fact welcome the prospect as it facilitates their present negotiations in trying to force the TTIP EU/US trade agreement on to the European peoples, and the prospect of another war in Europe makes things even better. Germanys trade alone with Russia amounts to billions of dollars annually not to mention getting a third of its gas from Russia and nothing would please the yanks better than to scupper this lucrative trade between the two countries. Why supposedly highly educated and “responsible” heads of government cannot see this obvious truth is beyond me. Economic colonisation of Europe. Makes you sick to the stomach. These morally and spiritually bankrupt “leaders” do not represent their people, they represent the Satanists in Washington.
Did someone disparage Anglo Saxons?
At least one of your early fans (me) – devoted since 2008 – is both Anglo AND Saxon.
But, the vitriol from other posters is not a big deal. I happen to be full of it myself today, with the slaughter in Gaza and the treachery in Ukraine, coupled with the despicable gullibility of my fellow Americans.
Saker, thanks for all you do.
To “english-pirate race are masters of the universe”
No, that’s quite not true. I know Alex j (and larouche)flogs this BS regularly on his ‘show’ but it’s not quite the situation as he makes it out to be. It is true that that PoS fool Anglophile Mr. Woodrow Wilson sold the US out to the Brits and to European Bankers in 1913 and during WW1, putting in place all the pieces to implode the US economy. However, in due time, the US elite had their revenge, in the form of President FDR.
FDR, a man of such incredible slime and cunning that he even out-slimed the slimey-limey-elite (no offense to the common Brit who is not a slimey-limey; only your British Empire politicians and their hacks in the BBC).
It was FDR and the United States that took over the British Empire and made Britain its colony in Europe. In this merger/ take-over, the US blackmailed Churchill into handing-over Britain’s ENTIRE Asian Naval-Base network in return for some obsolete US warships that Britain desperately needed to fend off the far better trained, armed and more technologically advanced Germans. Churchill was furious, but the US had the UK over a barrel, so the Brits had to give-in. Remember FDR is the guy pulled off the Gold-Fraud on the American people? If anyone had the balls, ruthlessness and requisite hardnosed slime qualities to pull this off, it was FDR.
After the war, there was a merger of UK and US intelligence and foreign policy personnel; many Brit assets moved to the DC-Maryland corridor; but make no mistake about it; the Brits were the employees and the Americans the Managers (for the most part). In return for their loss of the empire, the Brits gained further seats at the table and influence (CFR) over US geopolitics and US economic support and military protection from Stalin.
This scenario is provable because it correlates with the actual events that occurred at the time. It is a fact that United States refused to help Britain hang on to India as colony; effectively helping FORCE the British to give up India. The US made it clear to the Brits that could expect absolutely no American assistance in holding onto India when the Indians had begun a mass revolution to throw the Brits out. In fact, the US helped the Indians buy publicizing British atrocities in American Newspapers when the War Dept. could have easily suppressed such stories. Why? Because the US establishment wanted to make sure that the British Empire could never reconstitute itself, Britain losing India, the linchpin of the British Empire, would ensure that outcome. Making sure that the British lost a continental sized resource-base, labor force, future manufacturing base and military pool of India (where tens of millions of hardened and dirt-poor men were willing to sign-up for military service), would reduce the British empire to an empty shell.
to be cont
bazzr
continuing “english pirate master race”
Now had the US had been under the control of the British Empire as Alex j(and la rouche) claims, the British Empire would have forced the US to support the suppression of the final Indian Revolution (the one that resulted in the British being kicked out of India permanently in 1948). There’s no way that the British would give up a massive and strategically important country like India (right in the Center of Asia), with huge natural resources and its massive mercenary army that they had been used to conquer large parts of Asia just a few decades back.
Had the British been in control of the US as Alex claims, they would ordered the US to help them hold on to all the key strategic territories of the British Empire (the US had a nuclear arsenal and no else did, so the US could have pulled it off). But guess what? That never happened, because it’s not the British that control the US, it’s the US that had designs on owning and controlled Britain. Same thing happened with Britain’s loss of the Suez Canal; in that situation the US (Eisenhower – Bless his heart!) pulled the rug out from underneath Britain at the last moment, ensuring that the canal eventually ended up in the hands of Egyptian president Gamal Abdel Nasser – hammering the last nail into the coffin of the British Empire. If the British were in charge of the US, the Brits would never have given-up such an important strategic asset like the Suez canal.
That’s the real history, not the “Gestalt” that Alex j sells as Globalist history. Now Alex is correct in stating that the current group of elitist gangsters in charge of the US have no loyalty to the US and have no problems gutting the US’s industrial capacity if it suits their personal needs. He’s also right that they are often allied with an equally selfish group of inbred elitists in Western Europe that have an equally contemptuous attitude towards European citizens too. But like any group of control-freak psychopaths, their quite willing to screw each other if it suits their needs too: Look at how the US State Dept has undermined the borderline bankrupt EU by saddling them with a deeply indebted Western Ukraine and damaging 100 of billions of dollars of EU-Russian trade.
yours truly bazzr
The US has really changed its tune overnight.
http://rt.com/usa/174796-intelligence-malaysia-plane-mh17-us/
US intelligence: No link to Russia in Malaysia plane downing
Unnamed US officials are telling Associated Press that their intelligence suggests Malaysia plane shot down by separatist, no link to Russia found.
Officials believe that the passenger aircraft was intercepted by an SA-11 surface-to-air missile, which was fired by Ukrainian militia members. One official said the likeliest explanation was the aircraft was shot down in error, an assertion that seem to be bolstered by the previous downing of 12 Ukrainian military aircraft by militants in the region.
Intelligence suggests that, although the US maintains that Russia “created the conditions” that led to the incident, officials were not aware of the presence of any Russians during the missile launch, and would not confirm that the missile crew was trained in Russia.
The crash of the airliner last week with 298 passengers aboard has only exacerbated the row between the US, European powers and Russia over the developing situation in eastern Ukraine.
The aircraft’s black boxes were turned over to Malaysian authorities late Monday night by Ukrainian militia. Access to the debris field, which is located within the restive Donetsk People’s Republic, has been limited and rumors have run rampant regarding the conduct of militia in the area.
One official said that, regarding as to who precisely fired the missile, “we don’t know a name, we don’t know a rank and we’re not even 100 percent sure of a nationality.” The official added that “there is not going to be a Perry Mason moment here,” referring to any likely absence of definitive conclusions.
Officials noted that their inquiry relied partly on social media postings, citing specifically video of a missile launcher purported to be a Buk system battery crossing into Russian territory, and appearing to be missing a missile. Following questions, intel officials admitted they had not verified the video’s origin or content.
The Tuesday briefing seemed to be a sharp departure from comments made by US President Barack Obama a day prior, who stated that the Malaysia Airlines aircraft had been “shot down over territory controlled by Russian-backed separatists” that had been both armed with anti-aircraft weapons and trained by Russia.
Video (10 min)
Ignoring Ukraine: Is Mass Murder America’s Legacy to the World?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ5bI1AKxoQ
US has just backed down majorly, false flag falling apart. Looks more and more like a Kolomoisky operation covered up by a faction within the SBU, unknown to Poroshenko-Walzman, probably known and countenanced by US/NATO at one level, but not by State/Intelligence mainline.
So! Vigilance for the next false flag!
Putin’s speech is out in English, no backdown whatsoever.
Also Russian MOD presentation in English at mid.ru . . .
I’m not so sure that raising his voice and showing emotion was bad in this case. I believe in the UK it would be taken as a sign of telling the truth. An emotional person is more likely to slip up if they are lying and therefore are more believable. Since he did not contradict himself and his statements also correlate with hard evidence, this would suggest that he is sincere and correct.
Perhaps in Russia it would have been bad but in the UK I don’t really know.
I work now in Nepal and in an international organization which has people from various nationalities. i have been gathering opinions about the Malaysian airlines plane crash in my workplace. the local staff are not very interested in the crash but if prompted would invariably question anything coming out of the msm. the westerners invariably accuse Russia. if I challenge the credibility of the west’s claims given its previous lies about Iraq’s wmds, Syrian chemical weapons use, etc. they have no response and try to change the subject. the indoctrination of these so called educated people is complete.
mk bhadrakumar says about Indians- it is not in our DNA to self-doubt. all we can be is self-righteous. this statement could equally apply to most westerners.
I don’t think he handled the interview well that he came of as aggressive.
Another RT correspondent resigns Sarah Firth stating the channels spews lies and is propaganda for Putin.
http://www.rferl.org/content/ukraine-rt-reporter-sara-firth-resigns/25462473.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/18/sara-firth-resigns-russia-today-lies-anchor_n_5598815.html
This Ukraine situation that you have been cheerleading has become a disaster for Putin and Russia.
There is a thought about this flight disaster that has been on my mind the past few days so I thought that I would put it out there just for some sort of record. Air crashes never have just one cause but are usually the result of a long chain of events, some occurring before the plane even leaves the ground. I am wondering about one of the background factors that may have been at work here with Flight MH17.
About 10 days before MH17 was destroyed, the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) made a decision to recognize Crimea as part of Ukraine rather than Russia, an asinine decision in itself. I thought at the time that this was another example of how big politics is seeping into every international organization and pushing aside the professionals but a knock-on effect of this decision was to ban European airlines from flying to any airports in Crimea or passing through the region (see http://rbth.com/business/2014/07/07/icao_recognizes_crimean_airspace_as_russian_37997.html).
Here’s the thing though – if airlines going over this region were flying over the Crimea, they would be safe under Russian Air Traffic Control. By denying airlines this corridor airlines would then have to go over the war-zone instead which would partially make this an own goal. Somebody may have some explaining to do here. I may be totally wrong with this idea but nonetheless you do have to wonder.
Dear Saker, Thank you for having you here… We have to wait; We probably will never know what happened, because as we know, Ukraine is just a tool in the hands of the powers…
We mourn the plane passengers, but how many news have we really seen mourning the civilians dead in this bloody fight for the supremacy over the dwindling resources…
THANK YOU again!
Village idiot said it all. “See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda.”
― George W. Bush
Well now, HERE is a boycott that can work! And the timing, erm, couldn’t be better. (To the extent that Mossad might be involved in that crash, there’s also just that much more justice in this. But mainly, it’s financial as well as personal self-preservation, and nobody’s going to argue with that right about now!)
http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/741866
Putin must stop gas supply to England first and point atleast ten topol heavy missiles at englad to sort out the pirate liar race. What is Putin waiting for? Why is he not initaiting things rather than reacting to anglos evil steps?
WELL DONE!!!! Dr. Sveboda.
Marc Sveboda to BBC propaganda-whore: “I’m an American citizen and a war veteran [whereas you sir are a useless buttlicking effeminate talking head]”
ROFL!!!!!
A more accurate description of the acronym, BBC:
BBC=British Bullshit Corporation
BBC=Bastards Bullshitters & Child-Molesters
BBC=Beelzebub’s Blowhorn of Contempt
I agree with boer, I don’t think the emotion Mark displayed was a bad thing. When there is serious injustice there should be anger. Mark still got in as many points as he could, as quickly as seemed possible between interruptions, so I didn’t think it hampered his delivery.
To be calm and cool when outrageous lies are being told fails to get the attention of viewers, or clue them in that US/UK propaganda is stunning in its audacity. If they see someone who’s angry maybe their antennae will go up and they will at least Google some alternatives to the propaganda.
Two really calm people disagreeing politely makes it seem like they are merely quibbling over minor details. In reality US/UK propaganda is Goebbels-esque, the biggest lies possible, the direct opposite of the truth oftentimes.
Frankly, I don’t know how Mark stayed as calm as he did. I could barely stand to watch that sneering BBC shill.
To the poster who wrote “it is race war between the english parasite race versus the rest of the world-the sooner the rest of the world realizes that better it is for the world.”
As a born Englishman I feel that my fellow working class Englishmen have been abused and used by “our elites” like everybody else. They have robbed us of our souls, it could have begun earlier but when they closed off the common lands it destroyed our soul and society.
Originally I am from Liverpool, my people are ridiculed and mocked and treated like 3rd class citizens. They have destroyed our way of life repeatedly over time.
Many Englishmen feel absolute shock and horror about what is being done in Donbass and now Gaza. I personally as an intelligent, welcoming working class family man feel a spiritual connection with the people of Russia, Novorossiya and have a good Ukrainian friend. Those young conscripts are victims too, but I would NEVER defend their actions towards their fellow slavic civilians. Never.
For the sake of humanity please try to remember the connections we do have and that hatred for whole races serves the elites interests, not humanity’s.
Stepping Razor
The current false flag is unraveling, so expect the next one any minute. The Ukropy trolls have been heavy on the ‘terrorist’ meme, i.e., claiming suicide bombers at checkpoints, bomb plots in Odessa, NAF yelling ‘Allah Akhbar’ . . . next false flag = ‘traditional’ or possibly nuclear terror event . . .
You all must read this
http://www.quora.com/What-are-the-top-survival-tips-in-a-warzone-as-a-recruit
“Hi, I am Mark and I am from Ukraine. Today we had around 40 000 troops mobilized due to possible military invasion threat from Russia. I wasn’t mobilized but if Russia attacks I will volunteer anyway.
Our government doesn’t supply their soldiers with nothing but a AK-47 + a few mags + military cloths, NO GEAR.
So… I have never been in a service, I have never had any kind of training of that sort. For all that I know, there is a possibility I will be in a ditch shooting Russians in a couple of weeks.
So I am asking anyone who had ANY military training to advice me on how to survive during wartime. (Especially Jon Davis). He says he doesn’t believe in stupid questions – lets hope he is for real. Please help, please promote if you can. Thank you.”
In time, in the cultural and historical memory of what might be left of Ukraine, many will come to understand that the USA hijacked whatever legitimate liberal aspirations they might have had, and that the US (and the EU) is in fact, the enemy. USEUNATO policy is not making an enemy only of Russia, but also of Ukrainians across the board, be they pro-Russia or not. The longer this catastrophe goes on, the more attacks on Donetsk and Lugansk, the stronger the reistance grows, it will sweep west.
@it is race war between the english parasite race versus the rest of the world-the sooner the rest of the world realizes that better it is for the world.
“The English aristocracy had literally sealed a ‘marriage with Jewry’ in terms of its ‘blood substance’.
In 1941, Friedrich Wilhelm Euler, Nazi Germany’s leading expert on Jewish genealogy, published a lengthy article entitled ‘The Penetration of Jewish Blood into the English Upper Class’.
Euler asked how modern Britain became the ‘protecting power of Jewry’ despite the relatively small size of the Jewish community there’.
See more at: http://henrymakow.com/englans_jewish_aristocracy_ii.html#sthash.52TIDuW0.dpuf.
This is why the term Anglo-Zionist is perfectly adequate.
Classic technique of disinformation:
“18. Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad Opponents. If you can’t do anything else, chide and taunt your opponents and draw them into emotional responses which will tend to make them look foolish and overly motivated, and generally render their material somewhat less coherent. Not only will you avoid discussing the issues in the first instance, but even if their emotional response addresses the issue, you can further avoid the issues by then focusing on how ‘sensitive they are to criticism.’ “
Extract from:
Twenty-Five Ways To Suppress Truth: The Rules of Disinformation (Includes The 8 Traits of A Disinformationalist), by H. Michael Sweeney (http://www.whale.to/m/disin.html)
Dear Saker,
After watching this remarkable video, I enthusiastically wish to repeat your words to Dr. Mark Sleboda.
His replies were truly perfect indeed, and I have utmost admiration for his restraint.
Petar
Big news: the plane crash: No links to Russia. They say that “separister” did it, but they have no proof. Thank you to everyone who has worked to expose this false flag operation. We still have work to do, but this is a big step in the right direction. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-22/us-state-department-confident-mh17-mistakenly-downed-separatists-finds-no-direct-lin?page=6 http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2014/07/22/us/politics/ap-us-united-states-ukraine-evidence.html?ref=aponline https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3l9ivWkH3cQ&list=UUpwvZwUam-URkxB7g4USKpg “U.S. intelligence agencies have so far been unable to determine the nationalities or identities of the crew that launched the missile. U.S. officials said it was possible the SA-11 was launched by a defector from the Ukrainian military who was trained to use similar missile systems” http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-ukraine-intelligence-us-20140722-story.html
This was the respons of US yesterday: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQRvINebeok&list=UUpwvZwUam-URkxB7g4USKpg
Anybody have any idee what’s going on? Was Russia’s evidence so strong that the U.S. could not disprove them? They are still spinning, but were will this go.
One possible explanation for why the US is backing off of Russia is because they have determined that Ukrainian nationalists are responsible.
I don’t know if anyone here watches Russian TV (Russia 1, Seychas, etc) but they are all modeling a fighter attack on the airliner. Experts are saying a AtoA missel likely …a BUK would have blown it out of the sky and the crash site would look much different…no large pieces in a small crash area. The show a fighter attack ascending across the airliner’s path from beneath and firing at the apex; the missile path crosses the left wing and intersects the cockpit. Both the left wing and cockpit show “rod” damage from an AtoA missile. The BUK was back-up in case the fighter didn’t complete the job.