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Lebanese writer and researcher of Islamic Studies, Sayed Abbas Noureddine, gives two reasons why he thinks the ‘West can continue oppressing other nations without any empathy or remorse’.
Source: Islamona (YouTube)
Date: Mar 7, 2020
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In the name of God, the most gracious, the most merciful. A close look at the Western psyche, the Western man’s personality, and the way he deals with matters related to us, indicates that in the foreseeable future, Western man will continue to provide the necessary fuel for his governments and regimes to continue oppressing, attacking and persecuting us.However, the problem in this context is not that the Western man is an inherently hostile being who intentionally seeks to oppress i.e. that he knows we are innocent, he knows what he is doing is wrong, yet he continues to carry it out. That is not the case. However, there are two main elements being worked on in general – of course we’re talking in general here – to keep Western man and Western societies as providers of the fuel and resources (that their rulers seek).Thus, (Western states) are able to continue developing their weapons, to continue putting forward armies and soldiers dedicated to entering our regions to fight and kill us.
See how (common it is) for professional (Western) soldiers to kill (innocent) people in cold blood. Many Westerners, when they hear that dozens or even hundreds of us have been killed, feel nothing towards this, neither remorse nor empathy. Why? Because they believe perhaps that we deserve death, or that we form a threat to civilization, or that we are simply evil.
Here, there are two elements which crystallized in the mind and personality of the Western man, leading him to continue to provide the fuel for these ominous policies (by Western governments). The first element is that Western man views his government through the lens of economic well-being and comfort. That is, the extent to which his government provides (him/her with) services and privileges in terms of livelihood.
In short, the issue of livelihood and economic prosperity is a central issue for the Western man in terms of evaluating his government’s (legitimacy/performance). For instance, if Trump launches wars in which millions are killed, the Western man will remain largely silent before such a scene, as long as Trump (manages through such wars) to reduce the unemployment rate in (America) for instance. By merely bringing about some economic improvements, Trump secured a great percentage of votes or support (from Americans). In other words, he gained a widely popular base within American society. This scene also takes place in say Britain, France or Germany.
The red line for Westerners vis-à-vis their governments is (precisely) this issue of (economic) wellbeing and prosperity. Therefore, you can see that Western governments work on the economic dimension whenever they intend to carry out any sinister or ominous foreign actions or policies against any world nation.
The second element regarding the Western psyche was intensively worked upon for hundreds of years, especially during the last century, by (Western) societies, institutions, media, and various forces within their culture, and that is the ‘demonization of the Other’. Meaning that according to them, we cannot be imagined as ‘good’. As far as they’re concerned, we are ‘evil’ (beings) or
devils that must be killed or exterminated, or preferably, that we ought not to exist on the face of this planet. This ‘demonization of the Other’ process was worked upon intensively.
Therefore, when a Westerner feels empathy for a whale stuck between icebergs, but very rarely empathizes, if at all, with the Palestinian people, who are slaughtered, killed and subjected to all this oppression – this is because the Westerner is unable to extract these demonized images from his mind and imagination, images which (Western) media, educational institutions and (various Western) literature worked intensively on for centuries. Due to this culture, the Western man is unable to accept or view us as normal human beings, or as real people, or at least as people who deserve to live or have dignity.
Unfortunately, in this regard, we have major shortcomings that we must work on, not for the sake of the Western man, but for the sake of completing the (moral) argument against this (Western) world. If we do this, God willing the great Divine support will arrive (to change this situation).
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There is a simple template for mass western media sympathy mongering: can the “sympathy” be converted into profits for the Wall Street military industrial complex? If not, no sympathy.
In other words, Western man has been very deliberately indoctrinated and ignorant of truth by a few people in control of the money supply, the banks, the media, the education, the courts, the police, the army, the security, all levels of government, and the rigged voting system. There is good reason why the label, drugged-up and dumbed-down, applies so aptly to the average Western man.
Western Man has been mostly, up to this point at least, simply bought off. Question is, as the resources and wealth continue to dry up, what will TPTB do next to manufacture consent? It appears of late that the answer will be to first lock us down with fear, and then kill as many of us as possible. Seems to be working so far.
Western man is complicit and part of the western murder Incorporated. His greed is his trap; So lets see, from the colonial age up until now; the western man well knew and knows that the Plunder, Murder, Rape and stealing of others goods and resources is going on in full capacity. Now the problem has only arisen very recently in the historical context: Simply put the resources are drying up, the pie has gotten smaller and western mans greed fot the good life at the expense of others is rapidly coming to an end (Welcome to the real world).
Besides; the ones whose lands were being plundered have learnt to shoot back and send western men back home in body bags (Interestingly it is a criminal offence in America to publish pictures of returning military personnels body bags) This greed of western people and governments has created an intense dislike and hatred of white people in most parts of the world.
For myself I am personally very fond or ordinary western white people, I consider myself more western orientated than my own muslim people because I have lived amongst them all life in the west, I find a certain compassion and civility amongst them which is admirable but for some reason it is only applicable within their own societies, for some reason it doest apply to the rest of human race.
One of the greatest drawbacks in western societies psychological profile and mind-set is their moving away from faith “Man does not live by bread alone” as the bible says. Atheism and Agnosticism has destroyed western mans inner sanctum, which by its very nature is sacred. Once the sacred is removed then all you have left is an grazing animal who can only see the next patch of grass to eat. It is not surprising for a man like to notice that Islam (The third and the last in series of Abrahamic divine faiths) it is gaining immense popularity amongst western people in the west, mosques are sprouting up everywhere, and conversion rates are high. Indeed it is spiritual hunger that is driving this.
I am afraid the future does not bode well, we live in this age of consumerism and voraciously consume whatever we make, again a destructive path the west choose in the name of economic growth, these thousands and thousands of nuclear weapons that the west and others have made are not for display, not at all, it was the west that has already used them on other people, (Think Japan WWII) and Indeed they will use them again.
As the pie for western people continues to get smaller (We live in a finite planet and their cannot be infinite growth) for the western model of economic growth, In desperation they will lash out.
Historically, whenever empires are progressively moving towards full blown collapse (As is evident in Pax-Americanas case) they resort to extreme violence and madness, they don’t go out in a whimper.
Well, in the U.S. we have about a 50% employment rate at best, fake unemployment and “labor farce participation rate” sadistics aside. Even if it is true that China’s distribution of income and/or wealth is now nearly as unequal, they are having their Gilded Age while we financialize and deindustrialize, so as Colombians would say, it is like trying to compare faeces and salve.
I can feel the anguish of this man.
I’m so sorry for his pain.
There is obviously truth in his words.
The philosophy of the west has largely rid itself of God.
Science has given us survival of the fittest and a moral escape hatch.
The gentleman will be happy to know that the monster is turning inward.
The people of the west are becoming its victims too.
One advantage the Palestinian has over a westerner…….at least he knows his enemy.
Little Black Duck
Hear hear, very well said. If we don’t know who the enemy is, we will lose every battle. This enemy has infiltrated and corrupted every institution in the West, including it’s churches and in so doing poisoned everything it touched along the way. Politicians and clergy alike have had their minds taken over by the Pharisees of the day. You can see it in their silence, if not outright support of the daily crimes against the Palestinian people. ‘They have no remorse when killing others’
Here is a quote right from the horse’s mouth; “We are the destroyers and will remain the destroyers. Nothing you can do will meet our demands and needs. We will forever destroy because we want a world of our own”
– Maurice Samuel taken from his book ‘You Gentiles’ p. 155
https://samisdat.info/books/you-gentiles-1924
Personally, I think “westerners” have absolutely nothing to do with any killings. The focus has to be on the “inter-nationals”; these are the creeps without any loyalty to any culture, nation, or life in general. These are the creatures that don’t belong on the planet earth, and they will kill without hesitation any ‘westerners”, “easterners” and “in-between-rs” to solidify their control over everything in our realm.
It is time to identify the real enemies of humanities and not confuse them with locations they tend to operate from.
Sorry, that’s just a dodge. While true at its core, at some point if you’re going to pride yourself on a “representative democracy” – as most westerners do – then you have to stand up and take responsibility for its fruits. As I look around me, I don’t see whole lot of my fellow westerners bothered in the least by those fruits. In fact, quite the opposite. Evil is as evil does, and much of that evil is simply looking the other way while someone else conveniently does it on your behalf. That’s your enemy, right there. Same as it ever was.
The western “christian” man doesnt read his bible, so peace, mercy, and respect for the image of God is far from his mind.
Mr. Nureddin is definitely onto something important. He has put his finger on the main problem at hand. But his claim that Western crimes and atrocities can be attributed to economics is a mistaken analysis.
White Western judeo Christian colonialist crimes and atrocities did not begin in the 20th or 19th centuries and cannot be analyzed via modern reductionist economic theories. Western colonialist crimes have been going on for more than 2000 years. They must be studied and analyzed on their own historical and spiritual basis.
Ali,
you cannot dismiss the economic aspect in that way. That’s a strawman argument. It’s not that he’s implying that westerners kill for money, he’s saying more along the lines as long as the economy isn’t hurting too bad the western man will have no problem with his government (and by extension himself) killing and destroying people and countries in far off lands.
His argument is that the western man is conditioned to only observe his immediate self with any regard and the world may burn at large. This is obviously true in the ethos of today’s western man. You can read the comments (not here) on almost any platform and it’s obvious that the mindset of “as long as I get mine” is glorified to no end. People pride themselves in how much they can cheapen life (listen to cops and commentators talk about police shootings – donut operator is the most popular one). This is the regular people voicing their real opinions, those people cannot have sympathy for anything going on outside of of the US.
The analysis of Mr Noureddine are correct.
I also think that this self obsession is turning inwards and that Americans are less inclined to care what happens to a liberal/right wing (other side) person as long as it’s the other team (again read the coverage of the Kenosha shooting and the Trump supporter execution), and as long as they can turn on their gas guzzling SUV, have a mocha and listen to the current pop culture or what passes as counter culture.
Yes and thank you. But in reality the masses in the West do not have the respect of their elites. The butchery of the First World War bears witness to this. Roosevelt and De Gaulle had Gustave Lebon’s Magnus opus on crowd psychology as their bedside book. It is true that for the Western masses comfort is the yardstick for judging their rulers. But they are also the object of constant propaganda to divide them, notably social networks and gender theory. The return of mass poverty is a reality now in the West.
The Western masses are totally under the influence of constant propaganda. The purpose of this propaganda varies over time according to the goals of the elites. For World War II the Germans, Italians and Japanese were galvanized to serve as cannon fodder. Now the purpose of propaganda is to keep them quiet and in fear of the Russian and Chinese threat.
The enemy is not people. What is to be defeated is the gigantic propaganda and death machine backed initially by the Papacy (the sole media of the masses for centuries) and now by the mass media that always work in favor of the same interests.
The West long ago declared an eternal and total war. Its aim is to destroy the values of the greatest possible number for voluntary servitude.Those who do not submit are simply exterminating like the first peoples of the Americas. Currently, no longer able to kill en masse with impunity. They try to monopolize all wealth and means of production. They are destroying the state structures of those they consider unworthy of a real life.
By far the most important comment here. And credit to you for mentioning Papacy, you can see the same forces at work in Belorusija today.
Interesting. All the exceptionalism and superiority complex of the West is rooted in the twisted heretic understanding of Christian faith. Their understanding is fundamentally pharisaic. They less and less believe in eternal life and love towards the other person, and their entire focus is on this life and the respective “intrinsic dominance”, like the pharisees. Papacy in itself is a blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.
Sayed and Biswapriya………….it is more complicated than the general template sketched here…..which IS true, as a beginning inquiry of the lack of or perversion of Conscience among the Top Dogs……….in any pack of humans, anywhere on earth.
It is not that “all generalizations are false” …..it is that all generalizations (except this one….. until you can show me an example that contradicts…which adequately sums up the Complete Truth in one sentence, paragraph, article or comment……) are …………….INCOMPLETE.
The reason that the problem is “Western” stems from the worst aspects of the capacity for domination and exploitation brought by the science and technology which exploded more suddenly and forcefully in the West @ 500 years ago…than anywhere else in prior history…..at the same time that the Transoceanic Voyages of Discovery opened access to nearly all of the planet to the worst….as well as some of the seemingly almost accidentally “better” things Western…… that came along with this global reach of our merchant ships and war ships ….and missionaries….preaching “Love”.
And is it not obvious that the seed of any better outcome exists………. in what is missing, in what has been omitted so far, in what has not even been seen nor imagined as yet, by most humans anywhere ………… rather than lamenting the “same old, same old” in the same old way, seemingly interminably???
There are millions of American victims of the very institutional psychopathy this article accurately depicts, for example.
Many of them are currently in fear of an ascendant China and identify with the “oppressed” Uyghurs, the “organ harvested” Falun Gong sect, the Hong Kong hoodlums or our own Vietnamese contributor, Black Sheep….and spend most of the empathy for others that they can muster there, fearing OBOR…… imagining that this necessity to “keep China down” is what is required to avert even more evils than they currently suffer at the hands of their own current psychopathic rulers.
These westerners, in imagining that they are adequately looking after themselves as best they can………. then have little or no attention, energy, nor empathy to spare for Palestinians or Arabs or other even less fortunate peoples anywhere else.
Or else, their victimization and tortured emotions clouding their judgment, they fight for more of a shrinking pie like Sanders supporters…….. by supporting the insanely suicidal Green New Deal …or worse fall into Soros’s gangs of rioters vowing to unseat Trump and install the corrupt and senile Biden…..for their continued enslavement by the Deep State, The Empire…….no matter how many of their fellow Americans think they are out of their minds.
Which they are!
Meanwhile this paragraph:
“For instance, if Trump launches wars in which millions are killed, the Western man will remain largely silent before such a scene, as long as Trump (manages through such wars) to reduce the unemployment rate in (America) for instance. By merely bringing about some economic improvements, Trump secured a great percentage of votes or support (from Americans). In other words, he gained a widely popular base within American society.”
does what??
Communicates that Biden’s awful record of 50 years is the “safer bet”…because he is a “nicer man”??
Sardonic laughter.
When under constant coup pressure Trump has at least “allowed” ( by not opposing, which his opposition demanded for 4 years and still demand…but which would have been WRONG…and insanely reckless……) Putin to cripple Isis in Syria and save that nation under non-stop Russia! Russia! Russia! insane fear mongering rather than bringing the head on confrontation and regime change against Assad which Hitlery promised???
Here is a part of Trump’s recent nomination convention you are not supposed to read nor listen to, so that you can be manipulated emotionally, instead, into the “same old, same old” profiles (especially you TDS suffering Americans and Westerners imagining yourselves to be “anti-imperialists”……….) and let it sink in, before you demand that the captain of the US Ship of State turn the Behemoth on to the Very Best Humanitarian Course, from the very worst, “on a dime” while a full blown insurrection, an MSM Mutiny and Death Squads are being deployed in American cities precisely to prevent that course-correction...
It is a short reference to the absent Bush Family faction among other RINOs like Romney that was not there, and this is what was said about them:
“I’m thrilled that those people aren’t here, because I don’t think that they represent the party well anymore. If we wanted endless wars, if that’s the thing people actually wanted, those people should be front and center — if we want to send our kids to far-off lands to benefit no one, for policies that no one in America agrees with other than the neocons, the Democrats, Joe Biden, and the D.C. Beltway, who’ve made themselves billionaires by sending our kids to foreign lands to fight wars that we can’t ourselves tell us why we’re in.…I think we have to move on, we have to represent the American people, we have to fight for America for a change, not for our friends in D.C., not our buddies that run the military-industrial complex. We have to put an end to that.”
This was not uttered by the president, but by someone who will need to face the consequences of this matter discussed in the above paragraph, which addresses the subject of this article by Sayed directly………..decades longer than Donald Trump’s conscience and legacy will have to deal with those consequences, because the person that said this is much younger.
It was what his son, Don Jr had to say.
An even better summation of the matter at hand by a fighter for fifty years for the OASIS PLAN for Development and Peace in the Middle East, The Eurasian Land Bridge and other subsidiary programs everywhere else, that CAN bring a New Paradigm into existence….and consign British Empire Geopolitics to the Trash Heap of History………..as division and war amongst the Great Powers of this planet is increasingly less and less viable…and now utterly useless….by “virtue” (sic) of being immediately “species-survival” threatening and utterly useless as a way of settling public arrangements and affairs on this planet even one generation longer than it has persisted.
It’s Trump Versus the War Party…Will the American People Rise To the Occasion?
https://harley.larouchepac.com/will_american_citizens_rise_to_the_occasion?utm_campaign=20200902_weekly&utm_medium=email&utm_source=larouchepac
So Trump is the lesser of two evils… got it. Seems to be a lot of that going on this time around… as that’s Creepy Joe’s main claim to fame as well. Trump vs. the War Party? Hmm… kind of hard to reconcile that with Bolton and Pompeo (among others)… eh? Under constant coup pressure? Yeah… maybe… but that sounds awful familiar to the excuses Obama trotted out for eight l-o-o-o-o-o-o-n-g years while he governed as a hard-right-winger/war monger. A more intelligent electorate might conclude that BOTH parties’ candidates are simply… taking us for fools and LYING to us… imagine that! But of course we don’t have that now… do we?
Will Americans rise to the occasion? You bet… just like the author says. We’ll GLADLY vote for one of two guys who will BOTH continue to order the killing others in large numbers… including some of US!… with no remorse. But hey…that’s just what we DO! No, it’s not a defect… it’s a FEATURE!
omg this arab is dumb to not realise 50%, its DIVIDED arabs themselves who have been trapped in salafi behavior because of being ruled by kings,sheiks,etc btw-the kings and sheikhs gang up on ANY arab saddams,nassers,,houthi and assads as they are a threat to their dictatorial states, often with the aid of extremist wahabi clerics FED BY THESE KINGS,EMIRS AND SHEIKS AND WESTERN POWERS incl israel
Please read: https://thesaker.is/moderation-policy/
@Anon (the one who wrote): “omg this arab is dumb to not realise 50% … its because of being ruled by kings,sheiks,etc”
You do realise that all those “kings, sheiks, etc” were put in power and are kept in power by Anglo Zio Capitalist armies? The King of Saudi Arabia is merely the CEO of Rothschild oil company KSA. Same with the King of Bahrein, the Emir of Kuwait, and all the shaky little oil sheiks. Which is why, as you rightly remind us, these AZC frontmen tend to gang up on Socialist Ba’ath Party rulers like Dr.Assad, Saddam Hussain, and progressive Arab Leaders like Nasser, Ghaddaffi and the Rev.Nasr’Allah.
great comment Anon..pot telling kettle his bottom is black!
I am a Black man and I know Arabs..from the west Indies to Africa and north America..as hand-maidens of the western empire so awful, punitive, exploitative superior and racist to Black people I have never seen a difference in all my life between living at the hands of Arabs or white master. both were totally, incredibly heartless.
then of course Arabs were conquerors of Africa..as murderous and all round horrific as any before or since. Arabs seized all of north Africa from Africans..and on the other side of the Med as well, including Palestine etc. and over time I have seen no change in Arabs – Muslims of any stripe at all. they are all just as brutal currently as they ever were most emblematic of which are the Saudis.
and Arabs are extremely complicit in their own domination by western powers for Arab nations evolve and support lots of large, powerful fifth columns sell out and run their countries in the western interest..regardless of the merciless western depredations on the Arab world over time
by my own lived experience I cant take Abbas Noureddine,s analysis too seriously. it is quite incomplete as one poster above has already noted..that the evil of western man is much much broader and deeper and-long -term than Abbas Noureddine avers here. in fact Abbas reads like a fifth columnist production itself, calculated to give the western comprehensive and long term executor of humanity a huge break
Being a believer of Realpolitik and balance of power, I think, apart from the kind of reasons offered by the article, the real issue is the lack of strength, economic power, science and technology in the countries that are demonized and attacked at will.
Five centuries or so back, while Europe took off in science, technology, new thinking, new politics, economy – the renaissance – the East and Africa were not only stagnant but in many instances crumpling societies. This great divide in the trajectories of East and West happened at a time when vigorous Western countries were exploring the world, subjugating it for adventure and profit, and making the universe their own. Because this East-West divide persisted for so long, it kind of sealed the fate of the undeveloped East. A lot of English literature (and no doubt French and Spanish, though I have no knowledge of them) fixed the image of the “barbaric natives”, “the uncivilized savages”, and “the heathens” firmly and deeply into Western minds. From there it was a matter of course to lose respect and empathy for “the natives” and to claim the white man’s mission to civilize and rule the world.
Asia and Africa started trying to stand up in the wake of the Russian revolution. Freedom struggles, liberation movements, and decolonization happened to a large extent because of the Russian revolution. It was then reinforced by the Chinese revolution. Since then, “civilizing the natives” became a matter not of polite talk but simply of “keeping them in their place”. But they could no longer be kept in place because of the altered balance of power following the Russian and Chinese revolutions. Asia and Africa came to enjoy a degree of sovereignty in the four decades following the end of WW2 that they hadn’t since centuries.
All this diabolical, cynical and satanic talk of bombing countries to bring them democracy and human rights was not possible during the days of the USSR. Nor will it be possible the day that many of the weaker countries stand up and declare “No more”. A lot of the present day western hatred of Iran, N. Korea, Venezuela, Nicaragua, etc. stems from these countries’ resolve of “No more”.
Countries which have stood up and said “No more” and have backed up their defiance with credible militaries are no longer regarded as “poor, uncivilized heathens”. They are the objects of hate and fear in the West. The west knows that killing them will entail consequences for the west. Call it balance of power or balance of fists, but that is how the animal kingdom works.
The tragedy of the Palestinians is that the Arab world is hopelessly divided and the dividing lines are many, the important two being the Sunni-Shia divide and the rich countries-poor countries divide. The UAE has recently back-stabbed the Palestinians, while the Saudis have been back-stabbing them since decades. Furthermore, almost all of these weak countries remain under corrupt and inept leadership. No wonder these countries can be easily ignored by the powers that be. Why worry about the human feelings of people in these countries when they matter no more than dust and stones that happen to be lying around. Western countries have been drawing and redrawing the borders of the middle east just as they arrange and rearrange soil and stones in the course of their work.
Alas, the world is still lacking a balance of power. As long as that does not change, attitudes and mindsets of people in the West towards the East will not change.
Disgusted
Your comment is almost disgusting yet brutally irrelevant. The writer is hoping to awaken ordinary people in the west (& everywhere) from hypnosis , which is paralyzing them whilst empire (beast) is feeding on human life.
Brutal my comment may be but irrelevant I think it is not. While one way to awaken the people in the west may be through moral persuasion, the stark reality is that weak people and countries only get respect and self-preservation when they strengthen themselves intellectually, economically, socially, militarily, politically, and morally. Clinton (the Bill) could laughingly bomb Sudan because Sudan had no power, and in 2011 Clinton (the KIllary Hillary) could cackle and laugh at the destruction of Libya because it was easy to do with no price to pay. They would have loved to do the same to Nkorea (and several others) but realized that there would be a price to pay. If you care to study world history – especially the relations between the strong and weak countries – you will realize that moments when absolute power rested in one country or bloc of countries, that country/bloc would often treat weak countries like dust and stones.
Even internally within America, black leaders called upon their people to rise and become strong. And if I may point out, Gandhi the saintly pacifist, called weakness a sin and the greatest cowardice. Weakness in oneself brings out the worst in others, so it is a sin. What, after all, started the Black Lives Matter? Is it not that they simply decided “Enough is enough. No More”.
FWIW, I think you hit it on the head. That’s absolutely the calculus in nuclear capability, which is why the US is now switching gears into Bio-Terror and other asymmetric warfare capabilities.
Thanks a lot for this comment, which perfectly illustrates the article.
I strongly disagree with this simplistic article. But I also strongly disagree with your “real politic” comment, which tend to make believe that the common man in the western street dislikes and distrusts third world countries and cultures.
The PTB have for centuries organized the destruction and pillaging of most of the cultural entities in the world, and have now begun to destroy and pillage the western world. Those PTB have nothing to do with the average John Doe, whether he be Turk, English, Chinese or African.
I am afraid the common man in the west is not blameless. He is an active accomplice in the crimes committed by his country. He escapes blame only to the extent the common man has come to lose all say in foreign policy and other important matters.
Let us be honest here: After millions of Vietnamese had been killed by the Americans, what did the common American really protest about? It was about the killed American soldiers, not about the barbarism of that war. And these days when some smart ass or the other calls out for the destruction of some weak country (“Bomb them back to the stone age”) how many American souls are revolted?
The common man never had any say in foreign policy, whether it be in Saoudi Arabia or the .
Regarding Viet-Nam, only those that enlisted can be deemed guilty of anything (and they generally were punished, as they came back in poor mental shape).
It looks like you believe in democracy: you should have look at what social engineering is.
@disgusted
Your observation about; “the common man in the west is not blameless” reminds me of a Sufi tale about “sheep & wolf”. According to the Sufi’s (esoteric Islamic practice), there exists within a human being ,two competing forces (sheep & wolf), that have to be kept in a state of equilibrium. It takes vigilance, attention & awareness (an exact science) to archive such a divine calling.
Within every one of us there exist good & bad, denying that is both insincere & unproductive. The writer of the article is concerned by the apparent lack of concern by common people whilst the “empire” is killing other common people elsewhere. You @ disgusted , say that such a state of affairs conforms to the notion called “survival of the fittest”
In my opinion , the human psyche is one. Realizing that thought constructs, such as black/white, east/west , 1%/99% are self imposed prisons, is the very act of growing up into becoming a full fledged “human being” . When it becomes clear that ‘I’ gives rise to ‘other’, then obliterating the other means obliterating I.Tell me @disgusted, can the ‘strong’ exist without the ‘weak’ ?, can there be winners without losers ?. Perhaps the deeper issue encapsulated in the article is the need for the individual to work towards overcoming ignorance about the nature of the “self”.
“After millions of Vietnamese had been killed by the Americans, what did the common American really protest about? It was about the killed American Soldiers” Agree, thats my theory about the s.c. Peace movement of the US back then, it was due to the high number of dead americans, the dead Vietnamese did not matter. The US knows well that a direct confrontation with either Russia and/or China will not work, therefore the use of “useful” idiots of whatever ISIS, East europeans, Japanese, India, etc.
The Vietnamese were demonized as Communists. This process is now underway against China. Once Americans’ first regard is “Commies”, then anything is possible to do against the “Reds”.
Americans are conditioned to hate the Iranians as “The World’s Biggest Sponsor of Terrorism”, and now, General Soleimani is branded as the greatest terrorist (who killed 600 Americans). The propaganda machine conditions the citizens and readies them for any event, war, bombings, etc.
The American public are easily conditioned.
we cannot cite this accuracy above, only about ordinary westerners but about the Arab people as well, as I cited above. and not only them as well but about all ordinary people period, who have followed their leaders into general crimes against humanity ever since the rise of the state, of governments of kings and politicians and billionaires
I do not hold myself above all this..I cannot do that..I am human too. but I am looking here for commentary about the urgent question: how does humanity get out of this, how do we evolve into some form(s) of social life that are relative to indefinite human survival in nature.. which by definition must be ways of life that are based on the truth we have proved of natural reality
I see only reaction here, no progressive response that recognizes any truth..like there can be no indefinite human survival in nature under minority economic-political rule, which by nature is exploitative and divisive..
we have to move forward in such ways, positive with solution as our purpose, using all human experience and history to solve our current existential problem. the Fire next Time is our offer, inescapable if we do not achieve a positive resolution of all that has gone before, and our current issues they have left us with. we live by lies and nonsense, deliberate inaccuracies about life and if we do not correct them by revolutionizing our societies, bringing truth to the fore and base of the living we will immolate ourselves.
the equation is now absolutely and utterly clear..come into truth, choose to live by the truth we have proved or die by it. I see no progressive talk and thought here. interesting!
Everything the west has has been achieved through Murder, Deceit, Plunder, Robbery, Rape, outright lies and breaking all treaties and agreements. Interestingly the secretary of State recently admitted openly that: we lied, we cheated and we stole, I am just giving this one example but it is not difficult to look up the history of genocides the whites have committed, almost 100 million American Indians killed by some estimates, Millions of Australian Aborigines killed in Australia and New Zealand, The Belgian evil emperor Leopold II murdered 3 million Congolese by the most wicked means of murder, rape, torture and boiling little children alive.
https://youtu.be/AJmNIfZTGI4
The Question to my mind is : are these white Morally, spiritually, intellectually deficient genetically or just outright wicked because Humans ponder over what they do and reflect deeply when they do wrong, specially those who believe in final accountability and eternal life. I would like very much if a white person answers.
The people who committed these are atrocities are wicked. It has nothing to do with genetics. Regardless of our skin color, the color of the blood is the same. A normal human being ponders over evil, whether he or she is white or non white:
“Eventually, tales of the nightmare unfolding in the Free State reached the outside world. People railed against the practices in the United States, Britain, and the Netherlands, all of which coincidentally owned large rubber-producing colonies of their own and were thus in competition with Leopold II for profits.”
https://allthatsinteresting.com/king-leopold-ii-congo/3
In the Congo, King Leopold’s atrocities were so brutal, that even other colonial powers, inspite of their own atrocities and hypocrisy. To come back to your question, I believe it has nothing to do with genetics. It has to do with narrative and propaganda. Propaganda has been perfected extremely well:
https://www.globalresearch.ca/in-countries-destroyed-by-the-west-people-should-stop-admiring-the-u-s-and-europe/5668956
This is what needs to be confronted, more than military might. White supremacy and racism are divide and conquer strategy to keep people at each others throats, and any human being, regardless of skin color can be made into a monster. Take a look at Obama. Under his watch wars expanded, in the terms of constitutional violations, he was even worse than Bush. Let us not also forget that a neo-nazi government in Ukraine was installed when he was in office!
“Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.”
Voltaire
At the end, I will say Whites are also victims and also are fighting back against imperialism: Julian Assange, Edward Snowden, Chelsea Manning. Do not forget people of former Yugoslavia who were bombed in 1990’s, Donbass (As a Ukrainian, it is painful to see what is happening), Russians, in spite of being white are demonized. However as white guy, I believe Europeans and North Americans also need to take responsibility for what has been happening over the past centuries, and realize that the Anglo-Zionists do not care about anyone, but their wealth and power. And another thing. Certain things are beyond our control. We do not choose society into which we are born, or our appearance.
Thank you, I cannot disagree with what you say because it is logical and truthful. However, its only the western white man empires that resorted to most wicked and heartless brutality, murder rape and plunder…..other empires were also conquerers but few ever resorted to such brutality, only the mongols come close.
Its interesting to note that when the Islamic empire expanded from Arabian heartland, from a tiny little town of the prophet, peace be upon him; they were no less a warriors than any other empire but history has ample evidence they kept a leash on themselves, few towns were looted and plundered and even fewer wanton murder or rapes were comitted despite completely overwhelming enemies, they reached deep into Europe and ruled Spain for 800 years and famously saved large numbers of jews from christian slaughter,
By 637, Muslim armies began to appear in the vicinity of Jerusalem. In charge of Jerusalem was Patriarch Sophronius, a representative of the Byzantine government, as well as a leader in the Christian Church. Although numerous Muslim armies under the command of Khalid ibn al-Walid and Amr ibn al-’As began to surround the city, Sophronius refused to surrender the city unless Caliph Umar came to accept the surrender himself.
Having heard of such a condition, Caliph Umar ibn al-Khattab left Madinah, travelling alone with one camel and one servant. When he arrived in Jerusalem it was the servants turn to ride the camel and the greatest caliph of all was holding the reins, walking in front of the of camel, the attendant protested; saying what will people think that the great caliph Umer walking the camel in bare feet in front of such grand christian pageantry, he was greeted by Sophronius himself, who undoubtedly must have been amazed that the greatest military commander and caliph of the Muslims, one of the most powerful people in the world at that point, was dressed in no more than simple robes and was indistinguishable from his servant.
not a single individual was killed, not a single building burnt, not a single holy place destroyed as the crusaders used to do. ophronius invited Umar to pray inside the Church and gave Umer the city keys, but Umar refused. He insisted that if he prayed there, later Muslims would use it as an excuse to convert it into a mosque – thereby depriving Christendom of one of its holiest sites. Instead, Umar prayed outside the Church, where a mosque (called Masjid Umar – the Mosque of Umar) was later built.
All that I have narrated are verifiable facts of history, easily can be looked up on the web. So perhaps my choice of word genetic may have not been correct but what was it that held back Umer from slaughter and plunder and rape? ………. superior genetics or his faith……I think both.
I think the key to solve this problem is education.
To understand natures work. That our universe comprises of different species. Different kinds of chemical components etc.
However, I see for USA not much of a better education. It seems more that it goes backwards to the Dark Ages.
And not to forget religions. Christianity has never been against cruelty when it comes to other religious believers. Especially the Roman-Catholic Church is in this concern frontline (I am a born Roman-Catholic). History tells lots of mass murder in this concern.
And to look at USA: those more newer religious believes they have been created are more backwards than forwards and influences education. Especially biology.
“Christianity has never been against cruelty when it comes to other religious believers.”
This is not true. if one reads the gospels, it is clear that neither Jesus nor Apostles have ever condoned such cruelty! It is the people who twist Religions for their selfish ends. Even if Christianity were to dissapear tomorrow, other excuses will be found to kill. Take a look at Sam Harris, an atheist:
https://www.salon.com/2008/03/13/chris_hedges/
And do not forget that during the Crusades, Crusaders have committed many atrocities against fellow Christians. One powerful example is Constantinople in 1204! The people who commit cruelty against fellow Human Beings, and call themselves Christians are Christian Heretics. Pure and Simple!
At the end, I will say that Christianity has been practiced differently at different times. Christianity in America is different from Christianity in Russia or say medieval Byzantium (Eastern Roman Empire)
“At the end, I will say that Christianity has been practiced differently at different times. Christianity in America is different from Christianity in Russia or say medieval Byzantium (Eastern Roman Empire)”
That is a weakness of the faith. Don’t ever spin it as a strength.
Western’s men bribes make their ignorance worth. Even for the working class, just compare their life standard to third world countries.
It is worse to be poor in a rich western country, where human solidarity has been mainly replaced by administrative bodies, than in a poor countries where communities and neighbors solidarity still exist.
The generalisation ” Western psyche” is most unfortunate. It implies that all the people of the West of International Date Line are homogenous with respect to mind, soul, background, culture, education, intelligence. They are, of course, most most emphatically not.
In General, one would have to say that, historically, the vast majority of the transgressions against humanity committed have been by Anglo Saxons, who these days are predominantly Franco-Germanic [DNA studies]. There are Francs, Saxons, Germanics, Latins, Arabic like Greeks, Latino Spaniards with North African influence, Baltics with Slavic influence, a few Gaels and Celts left in Britain, plus various other small genetic groups, as in the Basques, etc.
I think the writer is referring to the Ruling Classes of the Saxon descendants, English speaking, plus about 70% of their followers.
It’s not helpful to growing a better understanding of peoples aimed at reducing tensions to just throw huge, random, vague generalisations around like this. A little specificity goes a long way :-)
And here for your watching pleasure the other side of the coin! Wow, just wow!!!!!!!!
A confession not to be missed!!!!!!!!!
A JEW TELLS HOW NASTY THE JEWS ARE – DAVID SHEEN
https://www.bitchute.com/video/IdyUPMazOVoR/
In relation to the video and confession above I find it hard to understand how anyone can genocide another people or nation just because they read something from the Old Testament of the Bible.
If we today lived in a world where faith was a reality based on verifiable fact and not based on conjecture or myth that needed to be proved what would happen? If we today like Abraham of old walked the ruins of Sodom and Gomorrah and saw first hand the act of God what would happen? If we knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that Noah was fact and not fiction like the old world did what would happen? If we could open our newspapers and read for ourselves the incredible deliverance of a people from slavery in Egypt like every nation did at that time what would happen? Would we today do what the old world did mock and reject this great God and Father of us all for our own made up gods? Would we repent of our sins and turn from idolatry? Would we pray to our made up gods for salvation from the God of the Jews as the prophets of Baal did with Elijah the prophet? Would we respect a called out people and live in fear and obedience? Or world we commit the sin of treason and idolatry like so many of those nations did and even Israel herself and paid the terrible price of not only going into slavery to Babylon but Jerusalem being destroyed? Remember the words:
And I will stretch over Jerusalem the line of Samaria, and the plummet of the house of Ahab: and I will wipe Jerusalem as a man wipeth a dish, wiping it, and turning it upside down.” 2 kings 21:13
When God demanded the genocide of a people their was a justifiable reason for it. Christ Jesus in fact summed it up quite eloquently when He said:
“Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the miracles that were performed in you had been performed in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes. But I tell you, it will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. And you, Capernaum, will you be lifted to the heavens? No, you will go down to Hades. Luke 10:13
It is an extremely dangerous thing to ignore and reject the Creator when He is gracious to us believe you me and in so many ways this was the sin of so many to whom God demanded their genocide! And it was either He who was going to do it or the people. Justice was served!!!!!!
Now how did we go from that to what we have today? How is it that when we read the bible we are oblivious to these things and think that genocide is a right?
Faith is not blind!!! Darwin would have been laughed and mocked out of existence in that world but here we are today fighting over and for what?
I guess the only question now is how long before God decides enough is enough: Or perhaps with climate change it has already begun:
See, the storm of the Lord will burst out in wrath, a whirlwind swirling down on the heads of the wicked. The anger of the Lord will not turn back until he fully accomplishes the purposes of his heart. In days to come you will fully understand it clearly. (Jeremiah 23:19–20}
The word of the Lord came to me: “Son of man, if a country sins against me by being unfaithful and I stretch out my hand against it to cut off its food supply and send famine upon it and kill its people and their animals, even if these three men—Noah, Daniel and Job—were in it, they could save only themselves by their righteousness, declares the Sovereign Lord. (Ezekiel 14:12–14)
Imagine there is no fear of God even in the Land of Milk and Honey?
Bravo. When a similar management would be installed to counter the west in Russia or China or any other might capable country the West would lose. Not before that. If someone or somebody would take the soul of western people as they did to others. Such a concept will make it possible for the whole world to treat these people like beasts and they would be defeated. Without it, they are not ready to negotiate the rights of others and history learn us …compromises can not be done with the demons. They would not have had the comfort had it not been the world slavery. Complete success is based on the slave trade until the 19th century, when industrialization was just beginning to take its toll. From the Crusades and the sale of Balkan slaves to the Arabs over the Portuguese slave island of St. Thomas in West Africa when the first industrial production and social engineering on this planet began until the 20th century and the wars they caused. Until then, rest of world will only send announcements, express their concerns, but practically nothing will change on the ground. The Colonial West is not afraid of the weak. The Colonial Power does not pray to God. The earth under their rule become hell and that school was learned from Rome and the Catholic Church. Divide et impera. There is no Holy spirit there, there is no need for honorable man. Their life motho are only interests. That is why they were afraid of Stalin and Mao. Or Genghis Khan. There was no God there. The West does not worship God, only the Force of Arms and the fear of Mammon existence. NOW, Is this possible? NO. Since the East, which is more traditional and cannot take away man’s spirituality and status od Man through the machinations of papal bullas or various Protestant permits, he will always lose.
The West is entitled to do what it does as it has been permitted to do so according to the Doctrine of Discovery.
Ultimately, it is Zionism that is the root of this cancer of Western inhumanity and genocide against the unconquered nations.
Witness the spectacle of the hypocrite Macron in Lebanon insulting Muslims and supporting Charlie Hebdo’s right to “freedom of speech” in (re)publishing racist caricatures of Muslims and the Prophet, while at the same time brutally condemning and imprisoning anyone who dares exercise their “freedom of speech” against Zionists and the Tel Aviv terror regime.
The 2006 comic book film “300” with its simple-minded “East versus West” mythology and its popularity in certain regions perfectly illustrates the mindset and psychopathy of these “proud Westerners” who are, in reality, a bunch of severely deluded slaves and pawns of their Zionist overlords who have no sense of actual history or heritage.
How the Persians are depicted in Frank Miller’s “300” is how these genocidal Zionist maniacs in Israel and the West view the rest of the world, in particular those peoples and nations they have been unable to conquer and wipe out of existence or force into slavery. The way the Zionist media demonize Iran, Russia, Syria, Palestine, Gen. Soleimani, the Houthis, etc. adheres to this ideology of dehumanizing their enemies and portraying them as literal monsters who can be exterminated without remorse.
The hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance in Western societies is truly mind boggling, but with the racial riots and associated violence sweeping America and Western Europe, maybe more people will wake up and prevent the West from descending into the kind of Zionist dystopia depicted in the “Half-Life” series of video games.
But I doubt it.
I cannot agree more.
This supremacist ideology comes from the top, from the alliance of zionists banksters with old european nobility (see D. Estulin work).
And the western peoples (including the jewish people) have been among the main victims of those psychopaths, if one looks at WWI and WWII.
Its true. As long as the economic well being is maintained, the western population even urge their politicians to kill, bomb and suppress.
We see this in immediate raisning polls to Trump, Obama, Bush, m.m. when some MOAB or Tomahawk attacks arrive on the front page of MSM.
1/3 of Americans said yes in a Japanese poll to nuke Japan again if convenient.
Western politicians must do and are simply doing their voters dirty job.
Thats why its necessary from time to time to use their own tools to let them know how it feels. The bully fears nothing more than being bullied himself.
The liberals in the US went silent during and since Obama because being antiwar while Obama was drone murdering everyone was branded being racist against Obama.
Americans are dumber down If you support a person, it must be 100% You cannot dissent with the person you support in anyway or you are branded.
«For instance, if Trump launches wars in which millions are killed»
But he has not — his predecessors did. Bizarre that this guy singles out Trump for an hypothetical.
«In short, the issue of livelihood and economic prosperity is a central issue for the Western man in terms of evaluating his government’s (legitimacy/performance).»
To conquer to loot seems to me the logic of all empires. Some more so, some less so, “western” ones differed greatly to the degree in which they did it. I wonder whether the enormous expansion of the arab and ottoman empires was due entirely to their benevolence. The people who fought to stop them at Poitiers and Belgrade were not entirely sure of that.
(Western) societies, institutions, media, and various forces within their culture, and that is the ‘demonization of the Other’. Meaning that according to them, we cannot be imagined as ‘good’. As far as they’re concerned, we are ‘evil’ (beings) or
«devils that must be killed or exterminated, or preferably, that we ought not to exist on the face of this planet. This ‘demonization of the Other’ process was worked upon intensively.»
Isn’t that pretty close to what islamic theology prescribes as the attitude towards believers in other religions (with the exception of tolerance of christians, chaldeans and jews for being monotheist), in particular of “pagans”?
Put another way, “western” (are the japanese “western”?) culture is not uniquely evil or more brutally exploitative than others, it has been merely stronger in the past 2 centuries as it was driven by a competitive race for material improvement, and thus rolled over most of the rest of the world driven by other goals.
Although largely true, it’s not totally true. Not too long ago, Trump promised to withdraw from waging wars and this resonated with the voters and caused all kinds of problems for the deep state.
The average Joe or Joan, unless working for the defense industry doesn’t benefit from these wars and so voted for Trump’s fake promises. They also don’t like bloodshed.
I feel the author’s pain as do many all over the world. Watching the daily ongoing mayhem in the USA, I feel like cheering it on but then again it’s the common people who will be improvised.
In ancient times they threw the ones most responsible/powerful over the cliff or into the volcano to propitiate the gods. I think the times call for similar offerings.
Your president, newly elected, was murdered in Nov. 1989 when my little girl also died. I cried for both….it’s not true that Americans take the murder of foreigners casually. The problem is that we are badly educated in world history and current events, being fed a constant diet of swill.
We have no concept of what our government is doing in our own land, let alone overseas.
What also afflicts Western man is the inherent belief that you are largely responsible for your own misfortune. If you get splashed by a passing car, he may speak to you with sympathy, but his first thought is that if you had been more careful, or more watchful, it wouldn’t have happened. Thus he can see Yemenis being bombed relentlessly, and he may even realize that he has a role in the process, but the fact that it is (in his view) at least partly their fault absolves him of any blame in the whole thing.
The Chinese have a similar cultural process, but in their view you are to blame for your own misfortune due to things you have done in past lives.
It’s the West Africans who view the misfortune of others wholly with sympathy, as their own experiences show them that misfortune comes for anyone, no matter how clever or strong or quick they may be.
I’ve never lived in the Middle East, so can’t comment about there.
Moslems have killed more non-moslems than „Westerners“ in 2000 years.
Any remorse? This was rethorical.
The very idea of the West is like the idea of the Coalition of the Willing/Killing or the “International Community.”
It is a weasel word that individual European, Anglo, or American predator nations hide behind to deflect blame and guilt away from their own specific crimes.
Today, the West is led by the world’s greatest war criminal nation, the United States of America.
Here is but one example of the America’s ongoing crime against humanity that very few people even acknowledge–let alone oppose:
Two decades of US “war on terror” responsible for displacing at least 37 million people and killing up to 12 million
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/09/09/cost-s09.html?view=print