Will it become a world war?
by Paul Craig Roberts reposted on the Saker by permission
source: https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2021/01/10/is-americas-future-a-civil-war/
As a person who grew up in the glorious aftermath of World War II, it never occurred to me that in my later years I would be pondering whether the United States would end in civil war or a police state. In the aftermath of the stolen presidential election, it seems a 50-50 toss up.
There is abundant evidence of a police state. One feature of a police state is controlled explanations and the suppression of dissent. We certainly have that in abundance.
Experts are not permitted forums in which to challenge the official position on Covid.
Teachers are suspended for giving offense by using gender pronouns.
Recording stars are dropped by their recording studios for attending the Trump rally. Parents ratted on by their own children are fired from their jobs for attending the Trump rally. https://www.rt.com/usa/512048-capitol-riot-employees-fired/ Antifa is free to riot, loot, intimidate and hassle, but Trump supporters are insurrectionists.
White people are racists who use hateful words and concepts, but those who demonize whites are righting wrongs.
Suppression of dissent and controlling behavior are police state characteristics. It might be less clear to some why dictating permissible use of language is police state control. Think about it this way. If your use of pronouns can be controlled, so can your use of all other words. As concepts involve words, they also can be controlled. In this way inconvenient thoughts and expressions along with accurate descriptions find their way into the Memory Hole.
With the First Amendment gone, or restricted to the demonization of targeted persons, such as “the Trump Deplorables,” “white supremacists,” “Southern racists,” the Second Amendment can’t have much life left. As guns are associated with red states, that is, with Trump supporters, outlawing guns is a way to criminalize the red half of the American population that the Establishment considers “deplorable.” Those who stand on their Constitutional right will be imprisoned and become cheap prison labor for America’s global corporations.
Could all this lead to a civil war or are Americans too beat down to effectively resist? That we won’t know until it is put to the test.
Are there clear frontlines? Identity Politics has divided the people across the entire country. The red states are only majority red. It is tempting to see the frontiers as the red center against the blue Northeast and West coasts, but that is misleading. Georgia is a red state with a red governor and legislature, but there were enough Democrats in power locally to steal the presidential and US senate elections.
Another problem for reds is that large cities—the distribution centers—such as Atlanta, Detroit, Chicago, New York, Philadelphia, Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, Los Angeles—are in blue hands as are ports and international airports. Effectively, this cuts reds off from outside resources.
What would the US military do? Clearly, the Joint Chiefs and the military/security complex are establishment and not anti-establishment Trumpers. With the soldiers themselves now a racial and gender mix, the soldiers would be as divided as the country. Those not with the Establishment would lack upper level support.
Where are the youth and younger adults? They are in both camps depending on their education. Many of the whites who went to university have been brainwashed against themselves, and regard white Americans as “systemic racists” or “white supremacists” and feel guilt. Those who did not go to university for the most part have experienced to their disadvantage the favoritism given to people of color and have resentment.
What about weapons? How can the reds lose when guns are a household item and blues would never dirty themselves by owning one? The answer is that unlike the War of Northern Aggression in the 1860s, today the weapons in the hands of the military are devastating compared to those in the hands of the public. Unlike in the past, it is impossible for a citizens’ militia to stand against the weapons and body armor that the military has. So, unless the military splits, the reds are outgunned. Never believe that the Establishment would not release chemical and biological agents against red forces. Or for that matter nuclear weapons.
What about communications? We know for an absolute fact that the tech monopolies are aligned with the Establishment against the people. So much so that President Trump, in the process of being set-up for prosecution, has been cut off from communicating with his supporters both in social media and email.
The American Establishment is doing to President Trump exactly what it did to Ukrainian President Yanukovych in Washington’s orchestrated “Maidan Revolution,” called “the Revolution of Dignity” by the liars at Wikipedia, and precisely what it did to Chavez, Maduro, and would like to do to Putin.
Suppose an American civil war occurs. How is it likely to play out? Before investigating this, first consider how the Establishment could prevent it by bringing the red states to its defense. The Trump supporters are the only patriots in the American population. They tend to wear the flag on their sleeve. In contrast, blue state denizens define patriotism as acknowledging America’s evils and taking retribution on those white racists/imperialists who committed the evils. In blue states, riots against the “racist system” result in defunding the police. If the Antifa and Black Lives Matter militias were sicced on the Biden regime, red-state patriots might see “their country” under attack. It is possible that the “Proud Boys” would come to Biden’s defense, not because they believe in Biden but because America is under attack and he is “our president.” Alternatively, an Antifa attack on the Biden regime could be portrayed as an unpatriotic attack on America and be used to discourage red state opposition to the police state, just as “Insurrection” has resulted in many Trump supporters declaring their opposition to violence. In other words, it is entirely possible that the patriotism of the “Trump Deplorables” would split the red state opposition and lead to defeat.
Assuming that the Establishment is too arrogant and sure of itself or too stupid to think of this ploy, how would a civil war play out? The Establishment would do everything possible to discredit the case of the “rebels.” The true rebels, of course, would be the Establishment which has overthrown the Constitutional order, but no media would make that point. Controlling the media, the Establishment, knowing of the patriotism of its opponents, would portray the “rebels” as foreign agents seeking to overthrow American Democracy.
The “foreign threat” always captures the patriot’s attention. We see it right now with Trump supporters falling for the disinformation that Switzerland and Italy are behind the stolen election. Previously, it was Dominion servers in Germany and Serbia that did the deed.
On whose head will the Establishment place the blame for “the War Against America”? There are three candidates: Iran, China, and Russia. Which will the Establishment choose?
To give Iran credit conveys too much power to a relatively small country over America. To blame Iran for our civil war would be belittling.
To blame China won’t work, because Trump blamed China for economically undermining America and Trump supporters are generally anti-China. So accusing the red opposition with being China agents would not work.
The blame will be placed on Russia.
This is the easy one. Russia has been the black hat ever since Churchill’s Iron Curtain speech in 1946. Americans are accustomed to this enemy. The Cold War reigned from the end of World War II until the Soviet Collapse in 1991. Many, including retired American generals, maintain that the Soviet collapse was faked to put us off guard for conquest.
When the Establishment decided to frame President Trump, the Establishment chose Russia as Trump’s co-conspirator against American Democracy. Russiagate, orchestrated by the CIA and FBI, ensured for three years that Trump was accused in the Western media of being in cahoots with Russia. Despite the lack of any evidence, a large percentage of the American and world population was convinced that Trump was put into office by Putin somehow manipulating the vote.
The brainwashing was so successful that three years of Trump sanctions against Russia could not shake the Western peoples back into factual reality.
With Russia as the historic and orchestrated enemy, whatever happens in the United States that can be blamed elsewhere will be blamed on Russia. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, former US Ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul, and former Deputy National Security Advisor Ben Rhodes have already associated “Trump’s insurrection” with Russia. https://www.rt.com/russia/512071-capitol-violence-consequences-fear/
Suppose that an American civil war becomes intense. Suppose that the Establishment’s propaganda against Russia becomes the reigning belief as propaganda almost always becomes, how can the Establishment not finish the insurrection threat by attacking the country responsible? The Establishment would be trapped in its own propaganda. Emotions would run away. Russia would hear threats that would have to be taken seriously.
You can bet that Biden’s neocon government will be egging this on. American exceptionalism. American hegemony. Russia’s fifth column, the Atlanticist Integrationists, who wish absorption into the degenerate and failing Western World, will echo the charges against Russia. This would make the situation a serious international incident with Russia as the threatened villain.
What would the Kremlin do? Would Russia’s leaders accept yet another humiliation and false accusation? Or will the anger of the Russian people forever accused and never stood up for by their own government force the Kremlin into awareness that Russia could be attacked at any moment.
Even if the Kremlin is reluctant to acknowledge the threat of war, what if another of the numerous false warnings of incoming ICBMs is received. Unlike the past, is it believed this time?
The stolen election in America, the emerging American Police State, more vicious and better armed than any in the past, could result in American chaos that could be a dire threat to the Russian Federation.
What Trump and his supporters, and perhaps the Kremlin, do not understand is that real evidence no longer counts. The Establishment makes up the evidence that it needs for its agendas. Consider how easy it was for the Capitol Police to remove barriers and allow some Antifa mixed in with Trump supporters into the Capitol. This was all that was required to create a “Trump led insurrection” that terminated the presentation of evidence of electoral fraud and turned the massive rally of support for Trump into a liability. Trump now leaves the presidency as an “insurrectionist” and is set up for continued harassment and prosecution.
As I previously wrote, the stolen election and its acceptance abroad signifies the failure of Western democracy. The collapse of the Western world and its values will affect the entire world.
For now, I am thinking in terms of Northern Ireland. Unless the AARP crowd finally waking up produces a boomerwaffen effect.
But nobody really knows anything.
We’re off the map.
It’s a false assumption to think that a regular military is useful in a civil war. The US is dependent on a working infrastructure, transportation of goods – quite literary life supporting ones (as I recall a analysis years ago, the electric network is dependent on a “few” transformer stations –> here it is https://www.utilitydive.com/news/could-terrorists-really-black-out-the-power-grid/241192/). Probs, everybody knows that there is a 3 days worth of supplies in major urban centers. The US has become much more dependent on the internet, electronic communication in general, that you have a interconnected domino network ready to take the fall. As PCR rightly assumes and or observes the populace is divided into at least 2 camps. 2 camps that are spread out geographically, demographically, socially and economically. At least those categories. Add in all the nuts and you have a working detonator.
The military is good at fighting a well defined enemy and very bad ad fighting insurgents. Afghanistan is one example. Russia wouldn’t have won the Chechen conflict, if the populace hadn’t cooperated (esp. getting significant clan members like Kadyrov on Putin’s side). Even then it took years of a bloodletting, a burned earth policy in urban centers (Grozny). This is a costly, dragged out, economy killing proposition. Never-mind all the hidden conflicts lurking beneath a power vacuum.
All it really needs is for one side to credibly threaten a percentage of the population and begin to act (like the current banning, doxing, job-losses…). Then all bets are off. Nobody can tell the labyrinth of actors, interests in the shadow, who might decide that a power grab is in their interest. Amazingly, I didn’t count in the recent capitol event, haven’t thought that the situation will be this volatile in the de-facto symbolic center of the US empire. My assumption was that trumpism would die a slow death and the elites+servants wouldn’t be that stupid to crank the repression machine up so early and so quick. It has become a realistic proposition.
Due to the manufactured COVID crisis and lockdown, they have made us so dependent on computers and technology to keep the supply lines open. This is the time to expect a massive cybersecurity hack. That will really mess things up for a civil war. The conditions will resemble Serbia after NAT0 attacked them. Many areas will be controlled by criminal gangs. There will be snipers on every block. It will be a stone age economy.
You are quite right that a genuine insurrection would be far more of a close-run thing than the military walkover Paul Craig Roberts fears. In addition to its over-reliance on electronics, the US military and National Guard has very sophisticated and very expensive armaments which are unlikely to work. My main information is about the F-35 strike fighter. The tail units were accumulating in British Aerospace’s warehouses when they decided to alter the front end, and relied on modelling rather than expensive wind tunnel tests to check the modification. As the world knows, when the F-35 goes supersonic, the tail falls off. Any aerospace engineering graduate would have told them that compressible fluids easily form chaotic systems, which, by definition, are almost impossible to model.
Does the regular US military have anything that works better than the “assault rifles” (?used to be called sub-machine guns or tommy-guns?) now widely in the hands of deplorables? Do the high tech night-vision goggles for the military work better than what can be bought at Wallmart? What about infrared goggles – are these confined to the military or can farmers, game wardens etc buy them? What made the Kalashnikov rifle so effective was its reliability, simplicity and ease of maintenance rather than its actual performance as a firearm. The examples of determined civilians successfully defending themselves against a hi-tech military are legion, especially country people who were good shots (the record of sniper kills seems to be held by farmer Simo Häyhä at over 500 Soviets). Some Afghan insurgents this century were still using Brown Bess muskets captured from the British East India Company in the first half of the nineteenth century (they don’t need specially made ammunition).
Finally, a comment about chemical warfare. Most of the chemistry PhD’s I trained when in the US would be appalled at the idea of using chemical weapons against their fellow countrymen, but if forced to choose sides, might side with the deplorables. In an undergraduate chemistry class I taught, I dealt with the chemistry of war gases, and in order that they did not take these things lightly, read them Wilfred Owen’s poem “Dulce et Decorum”. Blank faces all round – they could not conceive of anybody calling the noble sentiment “Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori” (It is sweet and noble to die for one’s country) “the old lie” as Owen did. It is going to take a lot of “woke” propaganda to shift that. Novichok agents were expressly designed so that they could be made by partisans from chemicals not included in chemical warfare treaties. They are binary, i.e. nothing particularly dangerous is made until the last step: their structures can still be found in odd corners of the internet.
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The situation in the US cannot be compared to Northern Ireland, which has been separated from the rest of Ireland by historical, religious and ethnic reasons.
Dr. Paul Craig Roberts is an excellent analyst. However, I do not always agree with everything he writes. For example, he has stated that “Despite the lack of any evidence, a large percentage of the American and world population was convinced that Trump was put into office by Putin somehow manipulating the vote”. Well, not quite. Many people in the US were indeed fooled into believing that Trump was “placed” into the White House by Putin and that he was under Putin’s “control”. However, the rest of the world just laughed at such infantile propaganda, invented by the neocons.
A civil war in the US ? Highly unlikely, although not impossible. Who would fight such a civil war ? How many men (unemployed or poorly payed) would leave their families and go out and fight ? Not many. What is possible, however, are severe social and political disturbances resembling a civil war. Such a situation could well see the US imploding as a country and it’s questionable if the neocons could prevent it.
With Biden and the neocons stealing the election we have entered a very interesting period in American history. I am waiting tom see how this will play out. I am not an optimist.
It doesn’t have to be civil war if both sides of the argument realise the “elites” have neither of the interests at heart.
Stop looking at the differences and start looking at the common enemy.
Both sides have to rid themselves of the pyramid shape of power, this is a common cause.
Use what is common between you to overthrow the tyrants!
I usually agree with P.C Robert, but this time I think he has overlooked some facts.
I doubt that there is a large support in the big cities for a return to the Obama-Biden-Hillary years.
Instead I believe that both the Democratic and Republican party has been hijacked by Political Agents, operating on behalf of the Global Elite.
These agents don’t even need the votes of the city population anymore.
They can now print all the votes they want, just as they are printing all the money they want.
The American People now have a common enemy: the Global Elite and their Agents.
If I’m mistaken regarding the support for the New US Administration form the large city population, several writers have already painted a clear picture of how a “Civil war” fought by insurgents like in Iraq, Yemen and Afghanistan, will affect the city population within just 48 hours.
After a couple of major incidents, City Folks will be convinced that they need rural America badly.
During such incidents, Red states should provide safety for City dwellers in their communities.
The National Guard is staffed with local Americans, who will not fight against their brethren.
The US Troops will not fight a civil war against insurgents conducted by their own countrymen.
This leaves only the CIA, The FBI and the UN to conduct arrests and gun confiscations among the Civil American population.
If anything can unite the American People to fight, it will be against foreign Agents (CIA and FBI) and UN Troops raiding American homes.
Uniting the American People against the Global Elite Fascist network is what is needed right now.
On a Global scale, PCR is right when he suggests that every Nations leaders has a dog in this fight.
They know very well that the US election was stolen by Global Elite agents, and that the New Administration and Congress will continue the wars against any sovereign Nation on earth.
So why does leaders like Putin recognize the Biden Presidency?
He could at least have least keep silent, like many other National leaders did.
Nobody needs any more proof of the evil this menace has inflicted upon the whole world since 9/11, nor does anybody have to doubt the future agenda of the Global Elite.
They will use the US, NATO, UN forces in collaboration with China, to conquer every Nation and kill more millions until they reach their goal: A new World Order of tyranny.
Thus all people in free nations have to stand up and end this evil.
But the American people will have to start the process, by cleaning house.
Yes indeed, you are fully right.
(BTW, concerning “… This leaves only the CIA, The FBI and the UN to conduct arrests and gun confiscations …”: here you certainly don’t mean UN (The United Nations), you probably had in mind NSA (National Security Agency) and/or other such U.S. organisations of ill repute.)
The NSA is a National American Agency surveilling every electronic transaction on the planet.
The NSA has worked with President Trump, just as they will work with the Biden Regime, but only by supplying information on foreign and domestic Citizens. The NSA has no authority to conduct arrests.
The CIA and FBI personnel are registered as foreign Agents operating by UN mandate within the USA. They have the authority to arrest American Citizens, and they have fully proved their aggressive intent toward the American Constitution: President Trump, Lavoy Finnicum, The Hammond Family, the American people and TRUTH in general.
The UN could be asked by the Biden Regime and Congress, to erect security checkpoints within the US.
And now that all the National leaders of the UN General assembly have recognized the new Biden Regime, they will be expected to vote in favor of such a request.
However, at this point such a UN resolution is still to be seen.
I find it absolutely implausible to have foreign Troops from China or NATO deployed within America.
Such a move will be countered by massive defection within the US military, as personnel will be going home to take up the fight against the invading forces.
During the NAZI occupation of Denmark, one of the measures taken by the Danish people was to without warning on the same day, go home and institute a Genneral strike, paralyzing all of society.
You don’t have to march in Protest. Just stay Home, or go on vacation at you family members in rural America.
I imagine that if all American workers call in sick (suspecting the COVID flue) on the morning of Jan. 20. 2021, including rising their American flags upside down, during the day, that Washington and every other National leader around the world will get the message.
Remember to show you flag upside down on Social media.
“The CIA and FBI personnel are registered as foreign Agents operating by UN mandate within the USA.”
Where such nonsense came from?
“The UN could be asked by the Biden Regime …”
Another nonsense…
Do you know Russia do have VETO Power? Do you know what that is?
ico the Musketeer asked
“Where does the CIA, FBI and UN nonsense come from”?
Read the 1938 US Foreign Agent Registration Act (FARA)
Or Check Line 206 her: http://nebula.wsimg.com/7a4b7b4437ff38c24a27eeec675cb022?AccessKeyId=58550240FD27AA5B3B5B&disposition=0&alloworigin=1
Or Check this out: https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1999-jan-17-op-64370-story.html
ico the Musketeer stated regarding Biden seeking support at the UN: “Another nonsense”
Read about UN Article 24 her: https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/about-responsibility-to-protect.shtml
Or read her: https://www.britannica.com/topic/humanitarian-intervention.
Yes Russia has veto power, so does China, France, USA, and the UK.
Now imagine how it would be portrayed in the western MSM, if a case of humanitarian intervention within America were brought up at the UN, and Putin vetoed such proposal, after he have just recognized the Biden administration as the legitimate government of the USA.
You may also remember that i Wrote in my former post: However, at this point such a UN resolution is still to be seen.
Is there anything ells you want me to explain or document?
“Instead I believe that both the Democratic and Republican party has been hijacked by Political Agents, operating on behalf of the Global Elite.
These agents don’t even need the votes of the city population anymore.
They can now print all the votes they want, just as they are printing all the money they want.
The American People now have a common enemy: the Global Elite and their Agents.”
A succinct & accurate summary, with “hijacked” being the operative word. What is notable about the ethnicity of most of the shakers & movers in the controlling institutions which are facilitating all of this nonsense (& not just in the government)?
I’d add the qualification that it’s a common enemy for the entirety of the global population.
“The US Troops will not fight a civil war against insurgents conducted by their own countrymen.”
American law enforcement probably weren’t happy about standing aside while BLM & Antifa trashed their cities, but they stood aside anyway.
The American military habit is not to fight on equal terms, but to destroy cities from above and damn the collateral damage. TBH, that’s about all they seem to be good at. The message here is to take note of the Iraqi, Lybian & Syrian experiences, & – unless “your side” manages to get sufficient & capable air defence assets – get out of the cities.
Many things I desagree. It often happens when I read Mr Robert’s articles.
-Biden s regime will be as neocons controled as Trumps regime was.
-I do not think the establishment would use nukes or chemical weapons or biological agents on US citizens. This idea is crazy. The establishment controls the narrative and has the biggest gun. It doesn’t need any of those special weapons and using those weapons would be completely counterproductive.
-I think the Russian already understood the US elite doesn’t like them. Russia did not decide to massively rebuilt its military forces in 2014 for nothing. They saw the threats and they prepared themselves accordingly. Russia has been accepting the ridiculous propaganda unleashed by the west. If this propaganda humiliates someone then it s the west not Russia. Thinking Russia would decide to go to war to avoid humiliation is crazy. What’s a western fabricated humiliation compared to millions of Russian citizens dead? Yes nothing at all.
Is there a risk of war or civil war? Yes I think it s a possibility. But this article doesn’t connect the dots correctly I am afraid.
Laurent,
The West is waging a war against Russia that doesn’t require weapons. Russia needs to reply and counter in the same way – but has been very reluctant to do so. Your argument about humiliation confirms that Russia knows it would be decimated if it tried to parry the blows. Correct?
I do not see any humiliation. Russia keeps having good relations with many countries and keeps selling its oil its gas and its weapons. But pushing crazy narratives humiliates the west for sure.
Russia replied very effectively on basically everything the west threw at her.
Russia took back crimea
Russia used the sanctions to develop its industry becoming more autonomous. For instance now Russia can buildhelicopter carriers and gas turbines. Russia could not 6 years ago.
Russia developed its cooperations with countries outside the western world like Iran and China.
Russia blocked the west in Syria in Venezuela in Belarus and in the Caucasus.
Russia developed new weapons like hypersonic missiles, underwater drones, air defense systems, nuclear submarines, MBT, fighter aircrafts etc.
Russia has been containing the west for years. The country replied in a very effective way. Russia defends its interests and is a responsible country. It won t start war but in case of a western aggression it will reply. And there is no damage the west can do to Russia that Russia can not do to the west.
In case of war the whole world would be decimated. Russia knows it and so does the west.
I think you misunderstood but never mind.
Fancy weapons are not important. If they were, the West would be treating Russia with huuuge respect. They have many other means to harm Russia. The question is – can Russia respond – without blowing up the world.
Russia already effectively responded.
I disagree. The western elite mindset is very simple:
Control everything you can
Regime change what you can regime change to control it
Hate what you can neither control nor regime change. The west simply hates Russia.
How has Russia responded when the enemy has been advancing since 1989 and is now few hundred miles from Moscow and the whole of the West is ranged against it for the first time? Imagine if Russian army was advancing from Chile towards California every year for 30 years and is now in Mexico. Unthinkable right?
How has Russia responded Ken?
By building a hypersonic missile that West has no way of stopping, and self guided missiles like the Kalibr which they can launch from anywhere and by, I would be personally prepared to bet, surrounding America with nuclear armed submarines, many of which are very deep and unmanned, in International waters.
Let America be so stupid as to send ONE tank over the border, and she will pretty much cease to exist within the hour.
I don’t seem to be making myself clear. Forget fancy weapons. Attacks are coming from other directions. It’s good that they have them but Americans are not THAT stupid. We are talking about a total war.
Forward deployments are targets. The Saker said it many times. Russia can not deploy its military more than 500 kms from its borders. But everything in those 500 kms can be destroyed by conventional means in minutes.
Iran showed at a very low level what would happen to us/nato forward bases.
Let me ask you something. Why do you think Russia has been able to retake Crimea and to go to Syria ? The west made a lot of hot air but did nothing to stop Russia. Why the western bombing campaigns in Syria hit nothing? Why did the western last regime change operations failed miserably (Belarus Venezuela)? It may be because the west reaches its limits when it comes to dealing with Russia and Russia s allies don t you think?
Russia isn t just a punching ball which can only take blows and never react. Actually Russia anwered in the best way possible.
Other users have also answered to you. Their comments are very relevant.
Seriously? Let’s try to look at things from this angle to see if it’s more objective. The Russian elite is part of the globalist story. That is why they entered Syria, shared it with the allies and have not yet left, nor do they think they will leave. They have their interest on the scale of falling shi….t topped by the same bosses as the Chinese, or Americans and the Europeans. And Venezuela is another small misunderstanding between former red and black internationalists in the process of sharing the spoils. Nothing else.Their allies are only the services that participate with them in modeling the consciousness of the conquered people.
An apt analogue here seems to be one of a besieged small animal possessing highly effective defensive tools, such as sharp deadly poisonous barbs and alike, that would cost dearly any large predatory attacker attempting to harm it. Such defensive mechanisms are usually clearly displayed, “advertised” you might say, and well remembered by the predators – who then avoid trouble.
Russia, with its very small economy (overall smaller than even the one of Italy, for instance!) on one side, and technologically truly unsurpassed and well advertised deadly weapons, both offensive and defensive, on the other, gives that exact overall impression.
Right on target, plus…….Leadership Wunderwaffen is a way to keep russian people asleep. They destroyed the Rodina and replaced it with fency professionals working for money (in god we trust) and you-tube commercials to “scare” the enemy and bring back the lost “fans”. They “got” Crimea from the whole of Ukraine, and in Syria they gave the Turks 35×400 km of sovereign land, they flirt with the Americans and NATO members who are still there. Not to write about the interests of Israel.
Lukashenko (Belarus) just announced that Russia and Belarus should proceed with tighter integration.
He also said that Putin is his friend and friend of the Belorussian people.
Asked about some other of his friends after some thinking he answered that he thinks he has none except for Putin.
The second interesting thing is that Germany just few days ago started a fund which among the other things will care for Nord Stream II gas pipeline and protect and compensate companies involved in finishing the work.
The third thing is the article in National Interest where they published latest polls in Ukraina where s.k. pro Russian “Party of regions” has now strongest support.
So Russia is responding … in the way which hurts the most.
Besides recently Russia launched the first ever self-propelled ice-proof (egg-like shape doesn’t allow freeze in the ice) research vessel “North Pole” for the Arctic that has range of 800 days of autonomous work, 8 knots max speed. Due to thin and disappearing ice since 2015 Russia has discontinued its research work and camps in Arctic which lasted for almost a century – first permanent research drifting (on ice) station was established back in 1937.
https://youtu.be/2PRgbPSJANI?t=40
In 2020 Russia has bypassed the USSR record from 1988 for annual production of electrical energy by nuclear power stations: 215,7 billions kWh (previous record was 215,669 billions kWh).
In the Soviet times energy produced included NPP’s from Ukraina, Litvania and Armenia (47 blocks) while today Russia has 37 blocks in operation.
The govt hates Russia, not the the western people.
Good points, Laurent. From an eastern perspective, Putin’s approach to the issue is correct. Even century-long Russophobic Japan is starting to reassess Russia even though at the same time they fear China more than ever. Japan still dances to the western tune, but at some point, if they sense real weakness from the west, they are apt to shift allegiances
Agree with you 100% Laurent.
Most of the Collective West just dont “get” the Russian mind set and way of doing things. They go about things quietly and let their actions speak for themselves.
This is something few in the West grasp. If you aren’t ripping off a shoe to bang on a podium, they think you are being submissive, weak, stupid and submissive.
There’s old saying. “Beware the patient man – because when his patience wears thin and breaks, then all the damned anger behind will come out in torrent”
I think you are essentially correct, Laurent, and Ken Leslie is incorrect. Russia is playing the knowing that the U.S .will collapse very soon under its own weight. The real danger for Russia lies in Europe, because Europe is where the Western globalist elites are stationed. Europe, specifically Switzerland, is the center of international banking.
Well, I’ll be happy to be proven wrong! It would be much preferable to being proven right. However, I am not convinced by your arguments – which is fine again.
I do not pretend to be right. I am here to learn and discuss. It s good if other people share by thoughts. But I am also glad to discuss with people who think differently.
Vive la difference!
Thank you Laurent for a much-needed and re-freshing clear-mindedness and perception! Cannot add more to what you have stated. Spot on!
I have been reading some stuff that PCR publishes on his site for a while now and I agree with most of his take on the state of his country, but when it comes to other countries, like Russia for examlpe, he approaches the issues with the typically american mindset. He was wearing out my goodwill to him on few occasions, with his constant harangueing of Russian Government and it’s President for not responding, retaliating and hitting back hard at every sodding provocation thrown at it by this “West”! In his opinion, that was just inviting more of such attacks. That’s, of course, very american way and for Paul, being an american, instant retaliation seems to be the ONLY way. Well, here we dealing with Russia and Russians do things their own way, which most westerners cannot understand. Russians play a long game and what matters to them is not the short-lived satisfaction of some quick retaliation but the final outcome, the result.
Although I have noticed lately that Paul has managed somewhat to get on top of such affliction, but now, for some unexplicable reason, our own, brilliant, intelligent and passionate Ken Leslie got infected by the same thing! Sorry Ken, just could not help it! : )
What is at stake here is whether the USA will survive in present form or will transform itself into something else,
perhaps back to what it used to be – the separate, independent States, each with it’s own Government structure, power and control, with the “Feds” designated into dustbin of history. That would be a simple and relatively painless way to get rid of parasitic “elites” that infest Washington and Capitol. And also, for these States to have their own media, with professional journalists, providing factual information, not endless stream of made-up BS and mind-numbing garbage by the corporate, “elite” owned MSM, that they have been relentlessly subjected to. That might restore some sanity to that poor nation that has been absolutely dehumanised, traumatised and abused by the parasite that firmly attached itself to it, probably even as far back as 19th Century if not earlier. Since then it just kept sucking the life out of it harder and harder and what USA has become today, is the result.. Empty husk. Almost. Change of heart is much needed as well as attitudes. Americans have been seriouly brainwashed (or braindamaged) depends how one looks at it – to believe that they are some kind of “exceptional” nation, the “cradle of democracy”, bringing the shining light of that “democracy” to the other “poor sods” on this our planet. If nesessary, by FORCE! And a lot of these americans consider it’s quite OK for their criminal “administrations” to kill millions in countries that most of them could not even find on the map, maim millions, and displace and turn into refugees tens of millions more! Wars in far away places have become their way of living, the way to earn money and voting for the very war-mongers who will bring them these military contracts.
This needs to change and the only way to change it is to SHOW them the results – the pictures of bombed out villiages, towns and cities, with mutilated, bloodied bodies of women and children on the streets, with ruins of what once was a peaceful everyday life.. They DID NOT WANT your “democracy”, which does not exist, most of all in your USA!!!
So, Paul, if you are reading our comments, I suggest that you leave Russia out of this american collapse, which was inevitable, and concentrate on simple survival, same as Russia had to do in the terrible 90s. What pulled Russia through that collapse was the Russian spirit, the patriots who loved their counry and also being blessed with getting the right man for the job – it’s President.
So, for you americans, here is a template, someone else’s valuable expierence to help you get thru what lies ahead. But perhaps doing it on a more local scale. Guess what – Russia might even help you, if asked nicely.
Thank you Laurent, Katerina, and others for your thoughtful and illuminating posts.
I just want to chime in to say: I like Paul Craig Roberts but I think he slightly misses the mark here.
There’s a lot of repetition in political blogs these days asking whether the U.S. of today compares to the history of Rome, and whether the apt comparison is to the moment it transitioned from republic to empire (from representative democracy to centralized imperial authority), or to the collapse of the empire. I think the parallels are a bit forced, but if we are going to play the Rome/America comparison game, I think the correct parallel is the latter. The United States changeover from republic to empire happened post World War II, and today imperial America itself is on the verge of collapse. We’re going to start seeing the U.S. start suffering major military defeats soon and various nations who used to click their heels when America snapped her fingers just start ignoring her. I agree with Katerina that PCR’s haranguing advice to Putin is bad and Putin doesn’t need to “fire back” at every unjust accusation like temperamental Trump with his Twitter account every ten minutes (before it was taken away from him and he was deplatformed and unoersoned). When the dollar collapses, the U.S. military will no longer be able to “enrich” the globe by swing the seeds of “peace” (i.e. war) and “liberty” (i.e. controlled, coup-installed puppet regimes)
If red and blue voters could set aside their differences and seriously start listening to each other, and recognizing their enemy is the globalist elites, they have a chance. I see the insanity of the elites, including the insanely repressive measures enacted on the people of the world on the pretext of fighting Covid (i.e. the seasonal flu) as coming from a feeling of fear of losing their grip on power. Their whole Great Reset plan is a plan to maintain their grip on power and reduce us all to the status of serfs with no rights, under the guise of “building back better” an eco-friendly, egalitarian green economy. But it’s bullshit, it won’t be either fair or eco-friendly at all. It’s not the end of capitalism it’s an artificial extension of capitalism’s life and the ROADBLOCK impeding a healthy, sane, authentic transition to something better.
I also agree with all of this from Katerina:
“What is at stake here is whether the USA will survive in present form or will transform itself into something else,
perhaps back to what it used to be – the separate, independent States, each with it’s own Government structure, power and control, with the “Feds” designated into dustbin of history. That would be a simple and relatively painless way to get rid of parasitic “elites” that infest Washington and Capitol.”
Just think how history will record this in 50 years time. The USA ,,, yet another empire destroyed by it’s own narcissism following many similar empires in history only this one was much shorter, brutal and more indulgent like a spoilt child wanting more of something … anything. Such is the way of the human condition sans philosophy and sensitivity.
Bravissima Ekaterina. You spelled out perfectly how necessary it is to think outside of the box. Far more clumsily I would have said that at this time in history, marked by a colonial endevour I refer to as Anglo-balization, the Anglo mind is the (colonial) master’s mind, and thinking outside of the Anglo-mind in these times of colonial Anglo-balization is as necessary as thinking outside of the box. No multi-polar world is possible thinking inside the box,ie the Anglo mind.
Katerina,
if you are really a woman..
Will you marry me!
if not I will propose to Serbian girl…
To Davidoff
Sorry my Dear, already married. To a Scott! : )
Teargas and water cannons are a form of chemical warfare. (The liquid that comes out of the water cannons, which burns the skin, that’s not just water…)
Gene therapy, which is presented as an mRNA vaccine (against a virus which may possibly be a bioweapon) that’s a form of biological warfare…
I do not think Mr Robert had those in mind when he wrote his article. If it was the case he would not have talked about nukes.
If new technologies can trigger imune response for a very specific virus, how far are drugs that can trigger, say, natural increase of muscle mass. Or losing that stubborn bellyfat without diet? How about turning whole population into happily helpless puppies? In the instant, without multigenerational breeding and selection process. It could be panacea and/or slavers wet dream come true.
The whole concept was researched for quite some time, but natural resistance to such genetic manipulation made efforts fruitless. Until now.
Now, It is completely safe, they say.
Good for you for mentioning gene therapy. It is an experimental but valid course of action in extreme cases if the patient knows the risk and consents to it. Mislabeling it as a vaccine, marketing it to the unsuspecting and threatening to force it on the unwilling are real crimes. That this is being done ostensibly as an emergency measure to try to stop a virus that is a dire threat only to the elderly (while ignoring that any cold is a dire threat to the elderly) should make us more than suspicious of the hidden motives.
It is up to us to get the word out about this abuse before we are silenced.
Although not directly on topic, Covid-19 comes into every aspect of life including domestic and international politics. None of us here know exactly what is going on, but the headlong rush to inject the world with a highly experimental “vaccine” doesn’t seem remotely proportionate to the risks being faced and further reinforces my view something smells very badly about the Covid event.
Surprisingly, PCR doesn’t factor in the repercussions of the Covid measures into his tirade against the patently corrupt Biden. PCR is right though, the coming year looks exceedingly bleak and it won’t be just a ‘dark winter’
I think Saker needs to get Peter Koenig back to focus on the GMOisation of humanity & neural-nanoparticle control agenda of the NWO.
This stuff is no longer just conspiracy theory. There’s lectures at Pentagon & YouTube videos of thought, sensory and neural motor control technology developed by DARPA. It exists. Dystopia is here.
to Laurent:
you are wrong if you think that USA never used biological agents to poison its own citizen. Look after the relevant information. At least more than 200 hundred times did the US government decide to use biological agents. As there were during the fifties and I think during the sixties also some people used as laboratory rabbits (MK Ultra).
The US government hasn’t any scruples neither towards its own people nor towards foreigners located outside the United States.
A state who has no scruples to do something like this will not shy away from other things.
You must be right but I don’t see the US nuking itself in any reasonable scenario.
Won’t be the stone age nukes of WWII. Expect C3 nodes of any effective resistance being obliterated by something appearing to be an oversized blockbuster bomb – turning any front line into hapless disarray and offering shock and awe to any center hosting serious resistance. No nukes? Do your home work.
I Don t get your point.
This article is about using nukes against “Trump’s deplorables” who are basically armed citizens. Those weapons are mostly handguns shotguns and assauld rifles.
What’s the point in using any form of nuclear weapons against an ennemy the police and the army can deal with by conventional means with ease? Why nuking your own soil? The level of destruction would be huge not to mention radioactivity which would last for years. It doesn’t make any sense.
Tactical nukes used in a real war against a foreign enemy are a complete different story.
Please do not take this conversation out of its context.
Have a look at pictures of the huge glazed craters created in the bedrock deep under WTC buildings 1 and 2 by something extremely hot. Only one explanation to that: Nukes. Very specific but extremely weird damage to cars and buildings around WTC can also only be explained if one considers the use of nukes. People in the parking levels of WTC have suffered from weird burns when there was no fire as a source of heat.
The US government cannot be trusted NOT to use nukes on their own soil or against their own population, they’ve showed us in Manhattan. I kid you not.
“The US government cannot be trusted NOT to use nukes on their own soil or against their own population,”
I think, with your preliminary discussion of the WTC, you’ve made a highly relevant observation.
One popular rationalisation for dismissing the notion that the WYC collapses were done with nuclear munitions, is that “the US government would never do something like that”. The same rationalisation enables debunking the suggestion that the US government was in any way involved in the attacks at all, despite copious evidence to the contrary.
If the recently conducted sham election and surrounding events shows anything, it is that the US federal government does not represent the American people.
If the prospect of a new American civil war evolves to fruition, beware indeed any preconceptions of what the US government would or would not do. They may choose to conduct some atrocity or other precisely because you can’t fathom that they would, and so have not prepared for it.
I see gvt employee burnout verses an amount of protesters to show up at state events as the driving force behind civil disturbance(s).
The health care system is on life support, the military is one step away from having to declare their public association with gvt, and the congress critters dont seem to sleep anymore which has already been proven to make better decisions as a result of.
The efficiency and interest on debt are tapping the ability of gvt to operate a global offensive as a local one seems to be questionable, you see how covid is kicking some american ass, wait until the deplorables want a say in the matter and its 3rd world bananas to the front of the line.
Mr. Roberts feels the election was stolen, if so, then going forward the only republicans that will ever get into office will be those chosen by the dems…as they control the ballot counting false or otherwise. With both dems, repubs being different faces of the same coin, Trump the anomaly now gone, it looks like back to the same old, same old, rule by pedos and alphabet soup wierdos…..I fear this could get out of hand pretty fast, the amount MSM venom is mind blowing….
Perhaps the election was stolen for the Dems, and not by the Dems. This would be more in keeping with the deep state conjecture as to the true locus of our government.
There is even more going on here than what was discussed. This is a deeper battle. There is a war being waged between forces of good and evil which has been going on for thousands of years. This now is merely the latest battle, one which we are now engaged, as the forces of evil rise up, once again, in an attempt to finally assert total control over the people of the earth.
This is a battle between light and darkness, truth and lies, peace and violence. One side wants total control, and they will strive to take it. This isn’t merely happening in the United States – it is happening all over the world. The entire world is in the grips of rising authoritarianism. Principles of freedom and democracy are on the wane the world over.
They intend to implement a strong authoritarian control system in the west, essentially along the lines of the social credit score system in China. (And they already have a partnership between government and industry (tech media etc) which will allow them to do it.)
So again, we are now engaged in this, or not, but it is happening. As I have been saying for a long time, since May of 2017, “The Final battle in a thousands of years old war between good and evil is about to begin…” And so it is.
As I have said, a light appeared as bright as the sun, and I fell on my face in terror. Then a voice spoke to me, and told me many things, chiefly among them, that this final battle is about to begin.
I encourage everyone therefore to prepare for this with all seriousness and trepidation. These are times long prophesied. It doesn’t matter which religion you call your own, you know these truths. You know about these final times. You know what is in store. Prepare yourselves, for the day of the Lord is at hand. Repent and make your ways straight, for the Almighty God comes with a vengeance.
You may view full message which was given to me at the link below.
God bless you and peace be with you.
My Experience with God – https://youtu.be/iEwLBpEXXJ4
@ Eddison Flame
I’m reminded of a TV show from my youth “That’s Incredible” and the testimony of a guy who saw and videotaped over the skies of San Francisco a light brighter than the sun. He used an 8 mil camera to do this and was so flabbergasted by what he captured that he mailed the original film to CIA in Washington. He was terribly upset that the only reply he got back from those people was a very poor copy of his original film. It was so poor infact he complained bitterly about it on that nationally televised program!
You ever wonder if the intelligence agencies and not just the CIA but the FSB and every other one throughout the world know far more than they are letting on about spiritual things and powers. Is that why to Hollywood has gotten into the game with such shows as X Files?
As for your experience please go and read listen to Anton Sawyers vision called Ichabod or Revival for some context to your own. You may be pleasantly surprised especially with the scriptural references which you unfortunately didn’t provide.
Cheers
Thank you Eddison Flame.
I have come to realize essentially the same truths as you ; and there are quite a few people out there, in France for example , essentially in the Traditional Catholic Church ( meaning not the satanic official church of Vatican 2) who have come together to analyze the events of the End of Time which we are witnessing. Conversions are taking place ( I witnessed one in my family) Small, very small awakenings so far. ” For the hearts of men have hardened “. As things become impossibly nightmarish , some hearts will soften, some eyes will open.
Immigration has severely increased instability not only in U.S but in Europe during the last 40 years. And when there was that “counter-cultural revolution” from late 1960’s we now have societies compared to mental hospitals run by patients. Humble positive supporting Christianity has been largely destroyed also in west.
Yeah, Frankie, but the US helping the “Western” banker gangsters blow up the immigrants’ countries, Christian countries included, has been a problem for over 100 years. US Major General Smedley Butler said, “I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-12. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that the Standard Oil went its way unmolested. During those years, I had, as the boys in the back room would say, a swell racket.”
These were conflicts under the Taft (Republican) and Wilson (Democrat) administrations, so the red and blue parties have been one corporatist party since before WW1. What Roberts does in his analysis, suggesting battle lines across red and blue party lines, means that the banksters win regardless.
”western world and its values” so eloquently mentioned by this article ,blindly financed by westerners taxes ,had in its awe shock manner, killed millions;-viets,n.koreans,serbians,ukrines,iraqis,afghans,libyians,syrians,Palestinians, so how can it now, in its collapse undo less awe and shock to non westerners?
not to mention, westerners on every sunday, get down on their knees and pray to their tourtured gods to bring peace to all humanity,but just murmur when sanctioned ordinary non westerners, including believers in the good book die of hunger in syria ,n.korea etc.
this piece does not connect to truth at all, westerners just claiming no knowledge of the inherent evil in western exceptionalism are just trying to clean the blood stains off their hands.
Thank you, you’ve basically stated the truth which only very few will want to swallow – until they are made to.
Let us not forget the marginalized ”Westerners” who are tolerated as workers and praetorians by the Western elites at best, but whose toleration can be revoked at any time.
Consider for example the American Indian, who serves in America’s military at a higher percentage than any other ethnic group in the United States, but who is on a course for eventual extinction by malign neglect and assimilation. Why do they serve then? A warrior spirit combined with the worst aspects of welfarism, governmental corruption, and absolute poverty at home to try to escape.
There are others in the West with similar stories, encouraged to hate and distrust every other group to keep them divided and weak and equally submissive to both elite patronage and threats.
Because the man of God disappeared. There is no respect for the values that once were worth like honor, care for family, than society, state, people. Now everything is upside down. First … I take care of myself in modern mirror …. then after few steps comes my family ….. then (when I need) society where I live, the local community where I go for recreation, and eventualy the places where I go on vacation and that’s it. There is nothing more. Christians do not keep any commandments of God, why would God help them? Muslims and Jews who still adhere to the holy books and teachings will be sacrificed in the next war (Pike letter) with certain Christians who still adhere to something and that is the end. When the old people would rise from the graves and look at their grandchildren, they would return to the grave in shame.When a man sits in peace and thinks of a big picture…….There is nothing but a petty ego and pubertal irresponsibility.
You see, I belive that the services, determine the fate of society. It is well known fact …..people deserve a government they choose. I think the opposite is true, the governmentis are controled by services to manage the development of society in the way globalists want. This time it is not about the fall of one empire that have been fallen throughout history, this time it is about the fall of the entire web system, human race.
Dear Vladimir,
We shouldn’t forget them indeed. What I find difficult is to countenance those who come to America with nothing and sing a pact with the devil – in exchange for a marginal existence they will (in their heads) lord it over the people of the world and wallow in ill-deserved pride. You said it! Of course such examples exist everywhere but nowhere do people festoon their houses with giant flags (of a well-nigh non-existent nation) just in order to convince themselves that by the magic act of crossing the border they have become better, stronger and more intelligent people.
The US is a special case – and please don’t get me wrong – I have spent too much time being in love with America. This is a kind of bitter love letter.
Yes, Americanism, it’s more of a kind of religion, an extension and concentration of the disease of the West European world as a whole.
Dear friend,
It is also quite possible that America plays a secondary role – being the executive arm – to a much more evil entity.
I don’t know if these idiots are aware of how they sound (it might just be the disgusting Russophobic Guardian) but it is clear that the current British government (and any other) is a hopelessly degenerate, criminal, satanic enterprise. I live in Britain and am utterly ashamed of the racist, self-aggrandising policy which must eventually come to haunt them.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/nov/13/russia-uk-minister-visit-wendy-morton-navalny-climate
America does play a secondary role, unfortunately, but I suspect that Great Britain does as well. Certainly none of this current nonsense has anything to do with the vital national interests of either nation.
This might illustrate our discussion better than our exchanges:
https://youtu.be/3PBHRMNDH8g?t=14
https://twitter.com/i/status/1347618439003779072
The cocoon changes, the essence remains.
Pretty much. Although I’m more of a mindset that nobody really believes in this ”Barbarism with a Human Face”, but they pretend to swallow it because it soothes their conscience.
Dear Vladimir,
I’m sorry but I didn’t answer your very important question, namely, why is it the Indians (e.g. Navajo) that are the staunchest supporters of a military which ended their freedom and culture. I find that hard to understand. I also cringe when I see “successful” black people such as Condoleeza Rice, Susan Rice, Obama and many others who are the most loyal executors of the criminal policies of the US regime (I’d like to hear Malcolm X’s opinion on these traitors).
It has to do with decades of constant pressure that eventually breaks people’s will to resist. Combined with heavily-rationed carrots (scholarships, grants etc.) and appeals to the “warrior spirit” (Indians), the former victims are turned into tormentors. Until they understand the mechanics of their enslavement, they will remain slaves.
This might interest you then, because the mechanism is only slightly hidden;
https://rastafari.tv/black-boule-rich-elite-homosexual-secret-society-paid-destroy-marcus-garvey/
Now the Rastafarians are a bit odd themselves, but what they are against, this control mechanism, is very real.
well said.
My 2p. The post-war America has tried so hard to suppress any notion of socialism or social co-operation that the current mini-storm is an expected and lawful rebound of a society tired of being told that caaamies are bad and that they are losers while a dozen super-oligarchs own almost one half of the country’s wealth.
The fact that this healthy correction has been usurped by Soros and similar scumbags is regrettable but also expected. The US used Soros to subvert dozens of competitors world-wide for 30 years and they have now immunised themselves. It is nice for once to see the mummified cadaver sowing horror in the land of his masters.
You’re right. None of my relatives in the US, whom I care deeply for, would know who the hell George Soros was if he wasn’t ***-***ing them.
It is always like that and everywhere but the problem with America is that it has been dishing it out without considering the possibility of a rebound (e.g. a severe bloody racial/ethnic conflict). I predicted it in 1995 (Orlov did as well) and I was very wrong but those deep contradictions are surfacing now and can easily manifest as colour revolutions, bloody coups, divorces, ethnic and racial wars etc. Ordinary people can only ask themselves – why us? Some will be able to understand that what goes around comes around. Not because of any mystical forces at work but because a) you always get what you least want and b) The stuff you invent and apply on foreigners is the easiest stuff to take to your own back yard – you know the drill.
I wish your relatives good health and SAFETY.
Thank you, Ken. All in all, it has taken a very long time for the chickens to come home, which is all the more a tragedy to the generations that had nothing to do with perpetrating the injustices overseas.
Yes, I say the same about the older generations of Britons who remembered the war, sacrifices and the international anti-fascist coalition. It is a pity (see my article on President Putin’s speech).
The problem the Joint Chiefs will have is their underlings may not follow their orders.
It was disclosed yesterday that SOCOM acting on orders in hand by Trump used the Capitol Building incursion to acquire evidence of wrongdoing
SEE
https://www.infowars.com/posts/top-military-official-special-forces-took-nancy-pelosis-laptop-during-capitol-riot/
And that is not the only thing they took according to my sources. They we in her office and other offices for over an hour.
Pelosi should be a worried woman.
She should resign immediately. As should others.
And Pence and the rats in the GOP woodpile don’t realize the bind they are in now.
The authors above analysis of tying Trump and Russia together is always what I believed because the globalist swine who are controlled by devils in the EU want Russia and Putin taken out. They want war and the need war to effect their agenda and make a buck out of it.
But the mass population doesnt want that – as was time in the 60s over Vietnam
If Biden-Harris-Hillary were allowed in and started to oppress people the people will strike back.
And they wont be able to stop because most police and the military are sympathetic.
So they have got themselves into one hell of mess and its not going to go away.
Santiago
That sounded more like hopium or copium to me, that narrative have been in play a long time.
There is even a 1 letter 4chan scam that have been pushing these theories 4 ever, the problem is that none off the tRump is doing stuff bhind the scenes and it will soon be made arrests of demoncRats🤷♂️
I will be pleasantly surprised if you are right but i have not seen any sign that you are.
Sounds like the servers in Frankfurt and the ballots with watermarks.
Facts? Fantasies? Psy-ops?
Let us know when solid facts are produced.
Meanwhile, I’ll stick to my cynical position that there will be a civil war. It will be asymmetrical by necessity.
There will be several sectors of the US left uninhabitable afterward.
There is a core of Americans who won’t succumb to serfdom.
That is right. They have seen the election stolen, the fitting up of MAGA and the attempt to silence every Trump supporter in the country.
Thank You. It really is that simple. My neighborhood is quiet now. If the powers that be in my small city decide to take peoples houses it won’t be. This will be a local issue worked out by people who actually have a stake in the community…Let them come.
Just found this. It may be an indication that President Trump intends to do to Nancy Pelosi what she had been trying to do to him, i.e. use the law to put her away.
https://aim4truth.org/2021/01/06/nancy-pelosi-the-mob-and-china/
For all I have read and learned about our president, he knows how to even the score and deal with his enemies. Think of his maneuvers as the legalistic equivalent of concrete boots. Just consider, he expanded the fortune his father left him by wheeling and dealing in the environment of NYC real estate and construction, a place where both fools ands angels fear to tread. He used the law and force of personality to accomplish his goals.
I think the chicoms and zionista bankers who wish to break up America want us to have a civil war. I think the pressures of declining oil production – real production, not the phony fracking numbers, a dollar weakened by national debt and the ascendency of China, and the natural consequences of a warming planet – of which new pandemics is one – all meant that we would be facing a weakened future sooner rather or later, and I think the Chicoms and zionista bankers wanted to control it sooner so they remain in control. I think it would have happened regardless of a constitutional crises, but I also think, and this is important, that Trump and the patriotic parts of our deep state (which is not monolithic by any means) are going to take control of it happening sooner and control who benefits, and who benefits will be the corporations that employ Americans and the deplorables who farm, manufacture, and run small businesses.
Trump met with Putin a few years ago and managed a few quiet hours of private conversation. Did Putin teach him the kari-ashi? Or perhaps it was the deashi harai?
So, what are you suggesting, James? The same courts which usually side with corporatist warmongers like Pelosi would side against Pelosi…?
Sorry, smart money is on this Chinagate story with the Dems being about as legit as the Russiagate story with Trump. And this US “coup” or “civil war” narrative can serve the warmongering against both countries. The Saker linked to “A Hard Look at Rent and Rent Seeking with Michael Hudson & Pepe Escobar” a couple weeks ago. Husdon said, “There is one kind of overhead that China is really trying to avoid and that’s the military overhead because if you spend money on the military, you can’t spend it on the real economy.” Several days ago, Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi said, “We don’t need a world where China becomes another United States.”
If China’s officials wanted to balkanize the US, they would also want to turn China into another US or UK, a bankster-controlled super-state with imperialist troops all over the planet. Otherwise, who would the banksters trick into wrecking Russia, Iran, Venezuela, etc.?
The question is if the politicians in Washington understand the consequense of a war with Russia? Do they really think that it will be a conventional war for more than a couple of hours before the nuclear weapons starts to fly? And do the politicians i USA understand that their country will be destroyed? Missile defense systems are just baloney and won’t work against ICBM:s with Mirv deployed and not against russian superfast missiles! These warmongers in USA must be arrested and put to trial before they ruin the whole planet….
Benny, put yourself in Russian leadership’s shoes: If you did all this work to build up the country and its people from the Bolshevik-brand communists and Wall Street-brand capitalists, would you really risk blowing all that up?
Now, put yourself in the banker gangsters’ shoes: Many people are not happy with you enslaving the planet, so if you and/or your enemies ruin the planet, won’t you run to your underground cities and continue the empire there?
The banksters and their puppet politicians are betting that they can beat Russia in a conventional war, and if it goes nuclear, Russia’s leaders stand to lose more since they care more about their people.
Russians are not known to give up any war the west bring to them! And Russia will defend themselves to the last soldier…And so it will be! The warmongers in USA will be destroyed and the whole country too…But the idiots don’t understand this before it’s to late!
Wouldn’t Russia also be destroyed? Particularly since the banksters also control nuclear delivery systems in the UK, France, Belgium, Germany, the Netherlands, Italy, Turkey, (let’s be honest) “Israel,” and God knows where else? And “the warmongers in USA” will conveniently not show up for work that day. Remember all the claims of this happening on 9/11?
I agree, Benny, that Russians will not give up, but despite all the threats and outdated Cold War rhetoric, Russia’s fight will be conventional and informational, not nuclear.
With all due respect, USA has not been a democracy for a very long time. Two party that are actually one party is hardly a deffinition of a democratic system, beside democracy has failed everywhere, miserably. No where in the world majority has taken any power in the hand, people on high table are not elected but selected. USA has been an utter failure even before that despeicable Trump took office. Trump is like Corona an aliby to blame it all, perhaps rightly so since Trump too failed to do what he said would do. The power to be showed him who is the boss and now would do everything to put him in his place to make an example to anybody, out of the grace, to aspire to be the President.
PCR brings up the US army. He says “the soldiers themselves now a racial and gender mix, the soldiers would be as divided as the country. ”
I was under the impression that the army consists mostly of the lower classes ie. Deplorables who are part of Trumps base… Also, while the top brass are very much pro-establishment, what about the next layer down? e.g. people like General Flynn.
Quote from Serbian girl: “I was under the impression that the army consists mostly of the lower classes ie. Deplorables who are part of Trumps base”
You, my dear young lady, are sadly mistaken in both suppositions, although I must admit I am proud to be called a ‘deplorable’.
Auslander
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Never The Last One, ebook edition. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ZGCY8KK A deep look in to Russia, her culture and her Armed Forces, in essence a look at the emergence of Russian Federation.
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Auslander,
In my sentence I used the word Deplorables to refer to the group of US voters who stopped Hillary from becoming US president. (Ie. I was not using it as a descriptive.)
Btw I’m glad you are one!
Why do we always look to the government to do EVERYTHING for us? Democracy devolved into the welfare state so if they want to play god with the inhabitants of the world over and build out the big brother system it is only because we wanted it essentially. CAF talks about this in her awesome illustration of the red button story:
https://youtu.be/jTm3Jbr6ePQ
I like her word “epiphany.” Yes, that is an epiphany alright!
Control freaks and playing god with the inhabitants of the world and so welcome to what will essentially be a new theocratic kind of government which is exactly why that nation in the Middle East was created for.
Our only question now would have to be who is the new Valiant Thor to take us there? lol if one can laugh about it that is? Dostoevsky, I imagine would be saying wow and O, No!!!
“Why hast Thou come now to hinder us? For Thou hast come to hinder us, and Thou knowest that… We are working not with Thee but with him [Satan]… We took from him what Thou didst reject with scorn, that last gift he offered Thee, showing Thee all the kingdoms of the earth. We took from him Rome and the sword of Caesar, and proclaimed ourselves sole rulers of the earth… We shall triumph and shall be Caesars, and then we shall plan the universal happiness of man.
I believe Christ referred to this as the Abomination of Desolation.
Democracy only works well on a small scale, where people have the ability to meet and talk to those who will be representing them. This is why states’ rights were such a big deal from the start in the US. But currently even states are too big to be run democratically. Silver-tongued devils find inroads very quickly.
A few quotes related to the substance of this article:
“Whenever the government of the United States shall break up, it will probably be in consequence of a false direction having been given to public opinion. This is the weak point of our defences, and the part to which the enemies of the system will direct all their attacks. Opinion can be so perverted as to cause the false to seem true; the enemy, a friend, and the friend, an enemy; the best interests of the nation to appear insignificant, and trifles of moment; in a word, the right the wrong, and the wrong, the right. In a country where opinion has sway, to seize upon it, is to seize upon power. As it is a rule of humanity that the upright and well-intentioned are comparatively passive, while the designing, dishonest and selfish are the most untiring in their efforts, the danger of public opinion’s getting a false direction is four-fold, since few men think for themselves.” – James Fenimore Cooper (The American Democrat 1838)
“When you marginalize the tens of millions of people who produce the goods which sustain their false reality, when you remove their ability to speak their mind and make their voices heard, when you insult them, berate them, hector them and beat them then you will bear the consequences when the sleeper awakens.” – Frank Herbert, “Dune”
“One of the most pathetic aspects of human history is that every civilization expresses itself most pretentiously, compounds its partial and universal values most convincingly, and claims immortality for its finite existence at the very moment when the decay which leads to death has already begun.” – Reinhold Niebuhr
“I am among those who believe that our Western civilization is on its way to perishing. It has many commendable qualities, most of which it has borrowed from the Christian ethic, but it lacks the element of moral wisdom that would give it permanence. Future historians will record that we of the twentieth century had intelligence enough to create a great civilization but not the moral wisdom to preserve it.” – Aiden Wilson Tozer
QED
“Another problem for reds is that large cities—the distribution centers—such as Atlanta, Detroit, Chicago, New York, Philadelphia, Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, Los Angeles—are in blue hands as are ports and international airports. Effectively, this cuts reds off from outside resources.”
What if the “reds” stop ALL transport into and out off those cities mr roberts?
Is the farm counties(“red land”) dependent on cheap trinkets from China and food imports?
Is all the fuel storages placed in those cities?
Are any of those cities autarkic in food production and in NO need of supplies from “red land”?
I am not sure what else to say without getting rude or personal tbh🤷♂️
all the natural gas pipelines that feed the NYC’s and DC’s electricity plants and furnaces literally can be turned off from one place in Oklahoma.
the location of the buried pipelines are public knowledge. Even though Northeast winters are tolerable, 30 million plebs will riot if their homes don’t have no heat.
And I doubt Germany has enough surplus LNG laying around to heat NYC.
Troops will be guarding those pipelines, after they finishing guarding the oil wells in Syria. Got to keep the Syrian oil out of the hands of Syrians, don’t you know.
KinderMorgan has pipeline pumping stations across the Southwest. A baby could take them out.
In the event of a military force versus civilians event, the US will become an energy-nulled economy and will boil in the summer and freeze in the winter. The people will cut their forests for wood burning. Before too long, from the air, the US in many parts will look like the Ukraine. Irony. Sweet irony.
A very cold window, but facing in a hopeful direction–a direction in which the deplorables have been blessed with more experience and have cultivated relevant skills, including social skills, than the salaried classes.
“… The people will cut their forests for wood burning. …”
Yes. And those will be the lucky ones, that live in remote rural areas and still have some ways to burn that wood, in old stoves or makeshift contraptions in some sheds…
The whole 350-million U.S. population is so much dependent on “modern” conveniences & smooth supplies that it will be an *immediate* disaster of unprecedented proportions. For starters, imagine not being able to use a car in that wretched place where you cannot get even to a supermarket without one (not to mention to a job…) And if you do get (walking ten miles) to the supermarket … there will be zero food on the shelves. And so on. (Just a tiny micro-foretaste of that already occurred this past March/April when the “Covid” flu hysteria started… In the entire Boston area you couldn’t buy toilet paper anywhere … rubbing alcohol became totally extinct … food shelves became dangerously depleted … people turned into selfish wild hoarding animals…) What will then happen in the above serious scenario?… Cannibalism?…
Many people in rural America are well-equipped to use wood heat, however, once the gasoline stops it becomes another story . . . try using an axe or handsaw to cut down trees, etc. No hydraulic log-splitters either lol. Some of us have the ability to make our own electricity with solar, wind, etc, But becoming completely self-sufficient is a huge task, very few people are close to that.
We are all dependent upon modern medicine; it seems all the banksters managed to arrange that most medicines are made in China these days (along with 80% of everything sold at Walmart). As previously mentioned, once supply chains break down, all hell breaks loose. Martial law would be declared for sure. Then what?
Lots of talk about civil war, but as mad as people are here about what the Democrats and Republicans have done, no one is ready to start shooing. I think the real trouble could start if the Democrats attempt to revoke the 2nd Amendment and start confiscating weapons or making vaccinations mandatory or at least required for all travel and workplaces. That will be met with violence.
The US is big on mercenary forces. I think it is more likely that organizations like Blackwater (or whatever the hell they are called now) would be used. Local law enforcement in rural areas is not going to help confiscate weapons and good luck going door-to-door. They will collect the ammunition one round at at a time lol.
The cities will be the absolute worst places to be. No food, no electricity, running water, working toilets, probably no transportation. The zombie apocalypse everyone jokes about . . . it is understood out here in redneck land that is all about when the cities go to hell and a flood of marauding, starving people head towards the countryside.
Actually, all it would take would be one high-altitude nuclear detonation; the E1 and E3 would bring down the entire US electric grid. It takes 2 years to replace the large power transformers required for electric distribution. How long do you think people would last without electricity? Plus the E1 would destroy all the integrated circuits over an area at least the size of a large state; that would destroy the emergency cooling systems and backup power in every nuclear reactor in that area; they all would melt down. Could wind up with one or two dozen Chernobyls all a the same time.
Interesting times, to say the least.
“What about weapons? How can the reds lose when guns are a household item and blues would never dirty themselves by owning one? The answer is that unlike the War of Northern Aggression in the 1860s, today the weapons in the hands of the military are devastating compared to those in the hands of the public. Unlike in the past, it is impossible for a citizens’ militia to stand against the weapons and body armor that the military has. So, unless the military splits, the reds are outgunned. Never believe that the Establishment would not release chemical and biological agents against red forces. Or for that matter nuclear weapons”
One word is all i need to refute this.
“Afghanistan”
Yes. And Yemen is a good template too. “High Tech” elite commanders and air support + marginally motivated foot soldiers versus well-organized opponent.
Americans are mostly sedentary, overweight, addicted to their creature comforts, addicted to sugar, cheap credit, fast-food, anti-depressants, Xanax, videogames…you want them to rise up and fight like Afghans?
@ Serbian girl
You summed it up accurately. Not a chance they could fight, not even in their hallucinogenic dreams.
Civil war is much more ugly than international. Most damage and atrocities are done by oposing factions betveen locals. Or infiltrated mercenary thugs.
“Even if the Kremlin is reluctant to acknowledge the threat of war”
What?
Have the writer never listened to Putin and his ministers/army speak?
This was a tragedy to read, from “the farmers are dependent on imports from cities and trinkets from China” to “the u.s army have big guns that lightly armed men can not defend against” to the end where he show the world he do not listen to Russian politicians/army speaking at all.
For me the writer only showed he is a true city boy and he do not live in the reality but in a narrative.
A narrative that is so far from the real world that i suspect he and biDEN(of thieves) have something in common🤷♂️
assuming no foreign intervention, the Red states can starve out the blue metro areas like that French Army starved out the Paris Commune.
The Northeast can be cut off from the rest of the country by cutting off a discrete number of mountain passes and bridges.
The tooth:tail ratio in the US military is embarrsingly low.
Won’t be a picnic for red states. Won’t be a picnic for blue states. And most of the country won’t fight one way or the other. sounds like the American war of independence.
Smartest thing would be if Trump resigns, giving the Presidency to Pence. Pence can then turn around and pardon Trump, and end of the baloney.
Trump can pardon himself. For Federal crimes only.
He needs to pardon his family and all the people who worked for him.
That won’t stop the persecution, but it will slow the prosecutions.
Well, PCR misses it big time when he assumes that the lower and mid level of the military will split along racial lines. A fighting force that does this is no longer dependable or useful. The racial divisions work in keeping prison populations split and fighting each other. Actually, there are class issues which unite the working class when they join the army—training for future job placement and depending on each other for survival in combat. In Vietnam the working class would “frag” those incompetent upper class clueless officers who tried to get them all killed. No one talks about that and if they do, they get the Hollywood “white out” treatment unless of course it was poor black soldiers killing white preppie officers. But it did not happen that way—my husband’s combat unit was mixed Okie, urban Black, white college age students, and hispanics who refused to flee back to Mexico just because they were draft age. ( it was a male pride thing with him)…
But as for the ruthlessness ( perhaps a bit exaggerated)…he is correct: Nukes can be “limited” and “pin-pointed.” and delivered by special forces operated drones. Am I correct or not?
” Never believe that the Establishment would not release chemical and biological agents against red forces. Or for that matter nuclear weapons.”
The last time the Russians allowed anyone to “sneak up on them” was in 1942 and that is fresh in their minds. If even Lukashenko can figure out what he is up against— a whole class of” people that want to run things “i.e. techno fascists posing as liberals–then I don’t worry about the Russians being prepared or knowing what is going on.
Everyone is so corrupt these days, folks are probably lining up to sell them hot off the press technology and information even if the Chinese are being uncharacteristically generous in sharing what they have.
Even Seth Rich was peddling his info to Wikileaks for a price, or so it appears. We are not talking spies with principles here ( Rosenbergs)—those folks are from another era.
The key as Lenin would say after the 1905 fizzled coup attempt the problem is the lack of a vanguard party and a leadership with a issue-oriented class based program. Or something like that…. I figure the next 2 years will show some attempts to manifest this from the American zeitgeist in a culturally acceptable way. So far the ruling oligarchs have not been able to get us to fight each other…let’s hope in Prison Planet this will still be our stance.
Hi Tertanum –
” Never believe that the Establishment would not release chemical and biological agents against red forces. Or for that matter nuclear weapons.”
PCR means red states
Look at LA, NYC, DC. All 3 have 0 electric plants anywhere near the city centre. Thanks greens. LA and NYC import their clean water from 100+ km away.
Take out the high voltage powerlines running into those cities + cut off the water, all 3 cities will descend into anarchy in 48 hours. Let alone imagine what will happen if rural blockades stop the flow of toilet paper and potato chips from the rural factories.
All 3 inner cities will riot like it’s 2020 or 1968 in 72 hours as any cops will have left or stay home protecting their family.
staying in a city is suicide when law and order break downs and the blue state enforcers will be too busy protecting Santa Monica or the Upper East Side from their neighbors 5 miles away.
I wonder how PCR envisions that civil war? The deplorables did not give birth to any leader who could lead them into such a war. Not a bang, but a whimple.
Actually, was there civil war in 1900-s or 1930-s – or just sporadic disconnected local unrests, who could easily be contained then squashed on term by term case?
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Actually, i’d like to say PCR went off the rail. He genuinely aches for America, and the years of slow American death took the best of him. He was and is chasing dreams (guess i wrote about it on Medium few years ago).
Now it got worst, his dreams became not just inconsistent, but mutually exclusive.
For years he was speaking out Putin should lead Trump’s hand to victory, or else Biden’s supervisers would unleash hell on Russia. Now he says there gonna be civil war in USA.
How can these his both prophecies co-exist? How can USA, while imploding in civil war, at the same time give Russia a dangerous mighty pound ???
Wetern democracy only exists or existed in your imagination…you mean western plutocracies or kleptocracies…
There is obviously a deep-state war taking place that the deep-state is trying to drag everyone else into. What else is not new?
I will not be participating in it. They can fight their own battles. The deep-state waged war on the general population on 9/11, which just keeps getting more obvious. They are in search of a scape goat. Most people, I hope are too intelligent to fall for it. Whether pitting Republicans and Democrats against each other, Christians, Muslims, and Jews, or Whites, Blacks, and Hispanics, or capitalists verses socialists, or Marxists.
The deep-state has committed a twenty plus year organized crime spree of hogh crimes and treason against the entire population. There is no way to deny it. All of the evidence proves it.
The real war that needs to be fought is anti-corruption verses corruption. America stands no chance of surviving until corrupt psychopaths and conspirators are prosecuted and imprisoned. That is simply an obvious fact. The deep-state doesn’t like it, but it is filled with people that have never been held accountable for anything in their lives, and as a result of it, they have never grown up. As you can see, they have spent their entire adult lives stuck in the emotional state of the terrible twos. It is pathological behavior that is getting progressively more pronounced and severe. They must be stopped or humanity is doomed. I am not exagerating in any way at all.
Andrea Iravani
Corrruption is in the States of America Pschye since the of its inception. What everybody Stateside is fighting for is part of the spoils.
The corrupt, shady, under-handed techniques of fighting over the spoils is spoiling the spoils, the country, and everyone in it. Good luck summoning up people from hundreds of years ago from the dead to answer for corruption. America is far more corrupt now. Slavery and the human rights abuses that went along with it were evil, but they could not be considered corrupt because it was not hidden or denied, and there were more whit slaves than black slaves, which is fact inconvenient for many. The same with the Monroe Doctrine, whatwas corrupt was the abuses against Native lands not honoring the contracts with Native Americans, that was corrupt because deception was involved. Today the corruption is far worse with 9/11, the seven false flag wars started as a result of it, the missing $21 trillion from the Pentagon, and the scamdemic based on scientific fraud and mal practice. They are terrorists.
Andrea Iravani
I’d like to add my two cents. Mr. Roberts is correct when he points out, that controlling speech controls concepts.
It does. It does more because there’s another step. When you control speech, you control the input from which perceptions are built. and 95% of our thinking is done with perceptions.
Images which appeal to emotion, destruction of any ability to think rationally, logically, with reason, and highly emotion -laden perceptions in what are, in the main, I’m sorry to have to say, stupid minds, is loaded dynamite.
However, once again Mr. Roberts fails to understand Russia and Russians. Quite what he calls the massive effort made by Putin and the Russian Government to make Russia militarily invincible, I dont know, but “not standing up for the people” it most certainly aint.
And the people and Russia and President DO understand that in the West “ evidence no longer counts” .
He needs to go read the many articles on Putin Today, Aftershock, InfoRuss, to see the sarcastic, blackly humorous, mocking put out by so many writers, who still use the “highly likely” in tones of contempt.
Russians understand exactly what they are facing. After all, they’ve been facing it for a long long time. When the President went through about 10 yrs of post entry training, some at the highly prestigious Andropov Academy, what does Mr. Rogers think he was being trained in? How to creep around the Turkish Embassy with a tiny camera? He was trained in how to defend Russia against “the main enemy”. That was America. So I do hope people dont get scared that if the utter basement crazies currently about to grasp the levers of power in US do decide to attack Russia, Russia will go down.
America will last about one hour max after any confirmed incoming to Russia.
If I lived there I’d be finding a well equipped boat and heading for the mid Pacific I think :-)
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There is a narrative for dealing with the nascent police state in America which is suitable for employment throughout the West. The governments of the West which included the United States of America have been infiltrated by banker financed operatives who have quietly succeeded in coopting the machinery of state to their own dictatorial purposes.
While present for many decades these insurgents have now secured sufficient power to stand forth against their domestic populations and impose their policies upon them while pretending to the legitimacy of the governments that they have quietly overthrown.
As such these governments claiming a fake legitimacy are at war against their domestic populations as well as foreign governments beyond their reach. As it stands the natural enemies of these fake governments are the domestic populations of the West and all foreign governments threatened by these same fake governments.
The natural alliances of the domestic populations of the West are among themselves against the fake governments and in alliance with foreign governments similarly threatened. Western domestic populations are populations under enemy occupation. It is reasonable to seek alliance with strength whenever possible.
The French resistance was aided against the Germans by the US and UK during WWII. The Chinese sought and received assistance from the US and Russia against the Japanese also during WWII. Insurgency movements naturally need external help because the established governments by their very nature have sought and have usually succeeded in monopolizing the ability to use violence.
The legitimacy of the occupied US government and all occupied Western governments must be attacked. Alliances of Patriots committed to removing the usurper government in the US and all others struggling throughout the West must also see alliance with the like of China, Russia, Iran, etc. as naturally in their interest.
If the US government and others condemn these alliances it for the benefit of these governments and not the benefit of the domestic populations trapped under their illegitimate rule. The same applies for foreign groups struggling against the illegitimate rule of their governments. Should not Patriots and the Gilet Jaune offer assistance to one another? Of course they should. So. should all others with a common struggle.
It is time to begin shaping the narrative to isolate and disparage the former legitimate governments of the West. Do it now. It must seem natural and understandable that an alliance of Patriots with Russia or China is a good thing which advances the cause of justice and hope against an evil usurpation.
In America the supporters of the government need to be branded with a suitable term of derision and disdain. Perhaps they should be called Usurpers of the Constitution; UC’s or Uceys for short or even better, Uzi’s. A term with a Nazi like sound and also identical with the small, murderous, automatic weapon, the Uzi. Once created the term can be generally applied.
With the proper terminology in place the war against the Uzi menace can commence. People can grasp easily the dire nature of the menace and infer easily the kind of actions that the Uzi governments will take against them. With some thought the propaganda of the US government, now transformed to Uzi government, can be countered. Do not despair. Ways can be found to turn the advantages of the US or Uzi tyranny against it.
Very very good advice, Anon. The enemy of the people are the usurpers. I can’t believe some are itching for a hor civil war between Reds and Blues. That would be a disaster for the common people and wouldn’t hurt the elites and would even help them. People would be begging them to impose martial law and then the total surveillance state just to quell the carnage.
Any frame that posits a conflict of Right vs. Left is misguided and only makes things worse. It’s the people vs the usurpers.
I wish the collapse of the West would lead to a new West but it leads to Agenda 2030 – unless America can overcome this.
Brendan O’Connell believes America is the only hope of the future – all other countries are going towards Agenda 2030.
I wish is were different and would love to hear differing opinions, but according to Brendan –
USA has to get rid of Israeli occupation – and then overcome the shackles of one world government.
All the rest of the world is already heading to a technocratic one world government.
Who is Brendan O’Connell ? Link please ?
I feel the US is kin to Wiley E Coyote. Although at the moment , the US displays remarkable resiliency it still keeps jumping off the cliff. The rest of world will wisely beep beep around the US.
Sure the vassals pay lip service to the empire , while strategically undermining US interests at every chance they get . The US has both domestic and external problems, which is a big problem for the Empire because the rest of the world will try to contain US domestic disfunction from oozing outtside of US borders.
Why is everyone so sure that election was stolen? What are biggest evidence?
Article II, Section 1, of the U.S. Constitution that the legislatures of the respective states SHALL determine the manner in which electors are selected in that state. In five states, Wisconsin, Michigan, Arizona, Pennsylvania and Georgia the manner which the legislatures of those respective states was unconstitutionally (federal Constitution) changed or altered by some magistrate – election commission, secretary of state, attorney general, governor or court – which had absolutely no constitutional authority to make those changes. Therefore, before one case of fraud had been reported and documented, and there are 100’s of thousands of such reported and documented cases, those elections in those states were on their face null and void. The governors in those states would not call the respective legislatures of those states into secession to deal with the unconstitutional changes, although the governors actually lacked the authority because the legislatures in the case of selecting the electors were acting under the authority of the federal Constitution and not the state constitution; however, three of the legislatures or those five states, having documented the unconstitutional changes in the manner which they had designated, asked VP Pence to adjourn the session of Congress meeting on the 6th of January so that the state legislatures in those three states could determine if the electoral vote,s adjusted to the contours of their original constitutional mandate, would go to Mr. Biden or to Mr. Trump. This is all President Trump and the three legislatures were asking: ten days to count only the votes which fell within the parameters of their constitutional mandate for selecting electors. VP Pence did not grant them that opportunity, an opportunity which any fair minded person desiring openness in the democratic process should welcome, whether he be a Democrat or Republican. So, yes, the election was stolen by those who unconstitutionally changed the mandates set by the respective legislatures, this before the first instance of fraud brought on by those changes was noted and proved.
The stats argument goes more or less as follows. The improper legal procedure argument is strong as well, but entirely separate.
There are a small number of counties (7 If I remember correctly) that both collectively decided the election and exhibit mathematically impossible changes in the distribution of mail in ballot votes over the course of the night. The mail-in votes were shuffled before counting, and thus should have a more or less consistent distribution.
As mail in ballots are counted along side the in-person ballots, the vote distribution of the county should approach it’s final value and exhibit decreasing variance. At a certain point it is possible to project the winner.
Now, what these counties have in common was the following:
– A large enough population to be decisive in the state
– The voting run by Democrat local officials
– Dominion voting machines
– And either a Dem SOS or (e.g. Georgia) one who had taken money from Dominion (I haven’t seen the proof of that last one).
6 of the seven had a ‘stop in counting’ at more or less the same time in the evening, and then resumed the count with minimal observation after the stop was called. All 7 had a large jump towards Biden in vote ratios (not just the ‘dump’ spikes which were up to 95% Biden leaning). These shifts in vote ratios were enough to take Biden over the top in the state, and the election.
The proposed mechanisms are good old fashion ballot stuffing and multiple scan passes of the same ballot batches (caught on video), and through the ‘Adjudication’ function of the Dominion machines whereby human operators can ‘review the ballot image and choose the vote recipient’ without supervision. All of these counties had vastly higher adjudication ratios than other Dominion counties. Adjudications are much faster if only doing the presidential vote and not the down ticket ones, which may explain the down-ticket outperformance of Rs. There are other things too, like vote signature matching being effectively quashed and a truly abnormal amount of ‘president only’ ballots.
I have run the numbers myself, and they are ‘good enough to get a team investigating you for bank fraud’. Not proof, but really damn suspicious. Now what would be a reasonable way to resolve this? A hand-recount (of these 7 counties!!), verifying signatures, and reviewing the ‘adjudicated ballot’… What happened?
– In Georgia, they did a hand recount of a different county than the 2 where fraud was alleged and which did not have a vote distribution spike. When pressed further, they shredded the ballots of the 2 counties under question (in violation of federal law)
– In AZ, they got a judge to finally order a viewing of 100 ballots from Maricopa county. A 3% swing to Biden was observed, so the Judge ordered a review of 2500 ballots which also showed a smaller, but entirely to Biden and large enough to flip AZ bias. The judge then granted a request for the Maricopa voting machines and all the ballot images. The elections people then refused to comply.
– In MI, the SOS ordered all ballot images to be deleted.
etc.
Essentially it’s the perfect crime. In the only place where a proper (limited) review of the identified counties happened (AZ, Maricopa), it was found that there was a systematic bias towards Biden large enough to tip the state. In most of the others, the evidence has been destroyed in violation of federal law.
Textbook banana republic
Certainly currently not the presence of Rudy Guiliani……and his previous statements.
was just, ‘look seeing’ re previous inevitable fall of empires.,it so happened that on 10th january 49 BC,,i.e being 49 years before the one who will rise again to forgive all sinners was born that ., the great ceaser crossed the rubicon to take rome,i kid you not.,further it also seems ,Capricorn which some say is an astrological sign for the former land of the free and brave now the great gulag .,i.e appropriate to its foundation date, is going to be in conjunction with saturn and some other astrological sign and a full moon or new moon on the 13th january 2021 AC, being first year after covid19 ,i forget or don’t care to go into deep…but…long story short ..protends to some explosive event so it seems….anyway, and 45th is reckoned by some to be the modern ceaser as he is an outcast in D.C now…but i digres,
what can be observed, by anyone who has not lived like a hermit the frog for the past four years or so ,is that the great gulag is undergoing a great power struggle., even if one is not aware that history repeat itself, as far as we can go into history mankind has excelled in organised killings, so we wait to see the outcome of this great divide which maybe just a false promise.,me thing this divide is far from over,This fight is among big dudes and it can get ugly, all revolutions’ far cry has always been,.”if you strike a king you have to kill him otherwise you lose”.,so we wait and see the desperations even as the 45thking has lost political power, the pretorian guards better be prepared.
might as well pray to the false gods that we have been conditioned to pray to, for just comfort rather than to be actually be saved, even as we await in vain to be saved by OTHERS.,when do we stand alone in love.,that time cannot come sooner enough….all revolutions has failed the only revolution that is of value is the HEARTS.
Interesting article and discussion.
However I don’t think that civil war is the main threat to the U.S. From what I can see, the ‘Deplorables’ don’t have the leadership, organization or resources to launch a civil war in the foreseeable future.
The main threat that I see is economic. Just as Belinda Gates admitted that they didn’t understand the ‘economic impacts’ of the Covid lockdowns (https://www.aier.org/article/we-hadnt-really-thought-through-the-economic-impacts-melinda-gates/), so I suspect that the Deep State/Democrats don’t understand the economic effects of the political instability, resulting from their actions added on to Covid.
For a country that is so heavily indebted, and at the same time so dependent on imports to satisfy basic necessities, I don’t see how the U.S. would survive a crisis of confidence in the dollar, and the hyper-inflation that would ensue. And it is precisely confidence in the dollar that is being put at risk by the political instability resulting from the actions of the Deep State/Democrats.
For over half of the population, this is the last election. They have been disenfranchised and are nothing more than serfs. The events at the Washington capitol were a harbinger of things to come. That was not an insurrection. The full-blown insurrection is coming. The people are outraged at the republicans, democrats and the combined executive/judicial/legislative branches. To roughly quote Thomas Jefferson, the tree of liberty must be watered from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. The shot heard around the world was the murder of patriot Ashli Babbit. Now the heavy hand by prosecutors is causing more rage when nothing was done in Portland and Minneapolis. You will likely dismiss my words as fantasy, but remember them. And as the events unfold reflect on them. The genie cannot be put back into the bottle and events will run their course and the United States will be changed forever.
Relevant in the current context to the enormous problems America faces, just a few minutes ago, the Japanese national broadcaster NHK in its noontime news program (this is Monday, but a national holiday with bad weather and exhortations to avoid unnecessary travel so a large portion of the public was watching) gave a list of the ten biggest risks in 2021. COVID and the economy featured quite strongly, of course, but they revealed the biggest risk to be the number “46.” They explained that that meant Biden’s presidency, and that America was facing a crisis of democracy. They actually featured a Trump supporter explaining that she had witnessed the violence at the capitol building and had seen Trump supporters trying to stop the violent breaking and entry by others, who were probably Antifa.
I was so amazed. Of course a minute or two later they went back to blaming the “Trumpocalypse” for everything wrong in the world, and I wonder if anybody’s head will roll for letting the other side’s opinion be heard this once. I wonder if the disabling of the CIA that Trump is said to have accomplished gave people at NHK the opportunity to present something balanced. Outside of international news like this in the mainstream media, the Japanese do not get much information from abroad, but my impression in talking with them is that a lot of them are questioning the globalist narrative on many different fronts. This will encourage more questioning.
Motto : Because of Covid ( 19 +) travel restrictions,USA had no other choice but to organize coups ( color revolutions ) at home !
If there would be a Civil War ,it would be a controlled one ! With a predicted outcome.The Secret Services have at least one spy in every citizen’s pocket and home ( … body ). They know what we talk,do or plan.” Most ” of the opposition groups of any kind are corrupt and can be diverted from their targets at opportune times.
So the only real help and hope can come from above and materialize mostly from outside.
after syriangirl confirmed all my thoughts, i am confident to give more predictions:
this is all about economics, the system needs new input, it needs slaves to exploit, but because it cant
find any more in the ROW, they have to find some stateside. they run out of chinese foxconn commies, palestinians, russian/slav untermenschen, middle-eastern ragheads etc, so they turned against the domestic population.
now, the establishment had to choose, exploit the red state or blue state population, and the choice is obvious,
the red state are the more productive part (more to exploit), while the blue supporters are more administrative leeches. So the push to make Biden president is a logical conclusion. Now follows the demonization of red state supporters so that laws can be enacted that would help exploit them – similar to german nazi laws against jews in the 1930s. Confiscation of property, joblosses, imprisonment, etc…
it is a fallacy to think the establishment have something against white people. they dont, LOL! all they need (actualy all the system needs) is a big enough part of the population to be exploited. that’s it! and all the narrative: white privilege, white imperialism, white guilt etc, are just fake excuses to exploit that part of the population. it is all business, the establishment doesn’t care for white or brown or any other people, they only care about the benjamins $$$.
now, understanding the above, it becomes all clear: why Biden is selected president, why Trump hasn’t done anything other than polarize the population and galvanized the red-staters, why Trump hasn’t and won’t
call the army to arrest the traitors within his ranks, why there were no arrests etc…
all this talk about trump being blocked on twitter is also just an excuse for the big techs to get rid of any competition. Trump doesn’t need twitter to order his generals to clean house. heck, he has generals sitting next to him in the oval office – situation rooms, he doesn’t even have to pick up the phone. but he wont, because trump is just the honeypot, the hopium for the masses. LOL @ putting hope in his candidacy in the 2024 election, if this election has been stolen, what’s to stop the establishment to steal the 2024 election too? well nothing! but they don’t have to steal anything, because they control and own both sides.
anyway, PCR is wrong to think the empire will attack russia or china. clearly, the developments all hint that
the establishment has decided to throw parts of the domestic population under the bus to keep the system upright.
further i would also add, that russia and china wont come to help, why would they. this is not an issue of conservatism vs neo-liberalism, but an issue of not having enough resources to go around. and why would
any other nation share their wealth to keep the americans well fed. wont happen.
remember, the US compromised 4% of the world population and is using up 25% of the worlds resources.
this is wont stand. the US is being cut to size. nothing can change this.
“… anyway, PCR is wrong to think the empire will attack russia or china.”
You shouldn’t declare anyone wring just because you don’t agree with what they say.
PCR has proved a reasoned argument. Show what part of his argument is wrong, where his logic fails, but don’t just declare him wrong, and simply add that you think “the establishment has decided to throw parts of the domestic population under the bus to keep the system upright.”
How do you arrive at this conclusion? From what facts? Where is your analysis of these and/or other facts?
@RMM
how about this: you print out PCR’s article and my comment as well
and safekeep them both in an envelop you will reopen in lets say 6 months?
Mmmm’K?
Este portal de notícias tem a rara qualidade de publicar textos excelentes e comentários tão bons ou melhores que os textos que lhes deram origem, de tal forma que acabam se complementando e fornecendo aos leitores uma visão de amplo espectro sobre cada tema abordado. Ninguém fica devendo nada a ninguém e no final todos ganham.
Google translation,MOD:
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As entertaining as it is to read all the theories about winning a civil war, you guys have no idea what a civil war is and how devastating it would be.
Whatever you do, you have to keep it from going so far, no matter who stole what and why.
Furthermore, think about another possibility. What will Russia and China do if they were not sure who is in control and is there control of the US launch codes.
“As entertaining as it is to read all the theories about winning a civil war, you guys have no idea what a civil war is and how devastating it would be.”
Blago niščima duhom, njihovo je carstvo nebesko.
Actually, Pred, Russia did get involved with the (1st) American Civil War, but not with nukes, obviously. Please check out Tarpley’s “U.S. Civil War: The US-Russian Alliance that Saved the Union.” The Bank of England oligarchs were prevented from sending naval vessels to aid the Confederacy (the banksters were on the US South’s side) because Tsar Alexander II sent Russian ships to back up the Union first. After this, President Lincoln’s Secretary of the Navy, Gideon Welles wrote, “God bless the Russians!”
However, back then, Lincoln and Alexander were opposed to bankster debt slavery and serfdom; it would explain why both leaders were assassinated. Today, with the US’s red and blue corporatist parties being pro-bankster, any new “civil war” would be 100% controlled opposition. Some real American leadership would have to stand and be recognized, but Russia, China, and other countries can help with that, too, like with RT’s third-party coverage
Whilst many of you have been sleepwalking in to a constitutional crisis of epic proportions in Foggy Bottom et al, The World has been watching and not rubbing it’s hands with glee. Confusion and massive discord in a very strong world power is dangerous, extremely so. It is not known what President Trump will do in the 8 remaining days he has to act and I surely have not a clue. However, I will give you some truisms.
If the President is impeached yet again, nothing will happen at first. Reactions in US will be delayed as the dismay hits home. Discord, panic and semi revolution is not good for peace and trade. In the end the mess in DC will disrupt world trade for months, as much or even more so as the virus plague has been a disruption. This disruption will affect mainly US trade and business which is in essence world trade and business. Not good for the God of Profit anywhere.
I doubt there will be armed violence against the coup, that will come later. Biden has clearly said he will go after NRA, in other words the right to bear arms of the citizens of USA. The first raids will be overwhelming force and violence to make an example of the targets of said raid. Raids will first be in small towns and villages where resistance is futile and met with death. It is the second round of raids that will draw resistance. Teams of heavily armed outsiders descending on Frog Patch, Missouri may get in to town but they will not get out unscathed. The level of violence will then spiral out of control and spread to the extremely vulnerable major cities, meaning those who have but a three day supply of just about everything needed to exist with. Think long and hard about this ‘three day supply’ thing, and then think how easy it is to disrupt the ‘three day’ process.
Of deep concern is this. For several years there has been a steadily increasing ‘show of force’ in and around the Black Sea and Baltic Sea, ever increasing recon flights and ships and for some months nuclear capable bombers nosing around with surveillance aircraft testing the electronics arrayed ashore. Their favorite trick near the end of their flight or voyage is to suddenly turn toward Russian territory and pull a fake ‘attack’, staying just outside Russian borders. For the last 12 or so days none of these flights and voyages have occurred, it’s like they were shut off with a switch. The Navy towns of Kaliningrad and Novorossysk are dead quiet, literally silent. Norm is streets and shops are full of various military personnel going about their duties or visiting the local food emporiums or having plov at their favorite kiosk. Not now. Ominous? No, I think not, I think it’s more a case of strong vigilance as a world power, a very dangerous world power, self destructs, never to be the same again.
Auslander
Auslander.
This answers Ken Leslie and all those who think this is a good time to give the US hornet nest a good poke – just to “show strength”.
It isn’t. It’s time for silent vigilance, as you report.
I’m sorry but there seems to be a mini “movement” here which deliberately misinterprets what I said – and it’s well-coordinated. I never said they should give them a poke – just show willingness and ability to give them a poke (without launching ICBMs) and OCCASIONALLY respond in kind just to show the enemy they mean business. If they did, the West might be pulling back from Russia’s borders now.
It’s good to know that my writing has stirred a nest. Perhaps someone will understand it properly and take action.
Mr. Leslie
A few thousand troops on the Russian borders in The Land of Poles and Trebaltica means naught. Russian armed forces are organized as a defensive system, Navy is a green water Navy in general (except for the boomers). Any force that in any way attempts to cross the Russian west borders will meet 1st Guards Tank Army up close and personal. I don’t know if your UK has any soldiers there but if they do, please tell their mothers to bring them home before they get in to something stupud and over their heads.
We haven’t forgotten here in Sevastopol what you and your French allies did to this beautiful little city quite some many decades ago and we are still digging your boys up from time to time and putting them to rest in the Cemetery we have for them. Sapun Ridge, location of Diorama Museum, overlooks The Valley of the Shadow of Death, we go to Museum often and in the lush vineyards below the ridge they are are still finding bits and pieces of yours.
In closing, I wish to thank your country for joining in the sanctions against my city and my island when we refused to let the orcs come down and ‘make your streets run red with blood to teach you how to be proper orcs’. Another thing we will never forget…nor forgive.
Auslander
Auslander
Kaboom!!
Auslander, my friend, you serve righteous outrage with cold, metallic velocity.
Brits have a genetic disorder in some of their classes. They take more than 250 years to learn a simple lesson.
Don’t poke the Bear. Mother never forgets, nor forgives.
Well done.
“Brits have a genetic disorder in some of their classes…”
Which “Brits” do you mean, exactly, Larchmonter?
The English, who are Franco-Germanic? The Scots who are also Franco-Germanic in their DNA but veyr Gaelic-Scandinavian in their consciousness?
The Cymraeg {Eng: Welsh} who are pure Celt? And have put up with more from the English, whom they do, in the main, despise, than any other people?
Please, be specific. We of Scotland and Wales are not English, nor have the slightest desire to be so. it is, in fact, an insult to be lumped together with them.
Putin already said that Russia will never again wage war on their own territory, and this certainly great news
But what about Russian interests that are located outside of Russian territory? Like trade routes, supply lines, pipelines, corporations etc? (Just read that Yandex is incorporated in The Netherlands…)
The Democrats are exponentially more aggressive than the Rebublicans vis-a-vis Russia: Under Clinton, NATO expanded eastwards and placed a major US base in Kosovo. Obama instigated Maiden…
As a result of previous Democrat interventions, the Adriatic maritime trade route is now under NATO control and Russia cannot get a pipeline through the Balkans. Ukraine is no longer a reliable transit route and Russia lost a huge chunk of their economic and political investment..
There is a Russian “ecosystem” that exists outside of Russia’s borders and with all due respect to the Russian political dream team, they haven’t always managed to protect that…
Orcland was never in anyone’s wildest dreams a ‘reliable transit route’, not the least of which was the outright theft of 20% of NG and POL from the pipelines running through same, nor was it a reliable business partner in any way, shape or form.
Any business venture outside one’s own borders, and even inside one’s borders, is a risk of some kind. Russia goes in to outside business deals with open eyes, especially after NS 2, but Russia is not in the business of protecting civilian trade routes with Russian Army. In the end, such ventures are for someone, often many ‘someones’, to make money and the bottom line is money talks and bovine scatology walks, ergo after all the public and private screaming and hair pulling, almost all operate one way or another.
Auslander
Serbian Girl,
You might have missed it, but Jan. 2nd I downloaded 3 articles about the Serbia Balkan Stream for my own archives on Russian pipelines. Looks like the pipeline they couldn’t get through went through.
https://cont.ws/@fybcbvjd/1877041
https://tass.com/economy/1241819
https://cont.ws/@sam8807/1877008
As Auslander points out, self-interest, making money, getting cheap energy, heating your buns in the winter and cooling your brain in the summer, as well as lighting up the electrical grid operates as “security” for the pipelines.
That, and everyone has pipelines. Blow up mine, and yours will suffer a similar fate. Even sanctions hasn’t stopped any Russian pipelines.
So far the only thing stopping the Balkans in prior years was Bulgaria’s abject stupidity. It has cost them at least $5 Billion, and gas for energy. They have backed off from that.
Hahaha I love your comments Auslander
The Krimskoye with some taste of bones….
Anyway, I always liked it and new years eve we always have some bottles of red Krimskoye
I live in Killien TX, home of Ft Hood or who knows what the name will be soon. I can tell you this. Technology works on the less glamorous level. In our county Bellcad.___, will tell you the tax history of the whole county. Did you say DOXING. The real DOXING has not begun. Those soldiers live here, their families go to schools I pay taxes for. Same goes for all government employees. Boys and girls you got to live here too and send your children to school. This never ends well.
When China moved from producing simple cheap things like shirts and socks to much more advanced the west went mad. Now China has passed U.S with even numbers of patents. But the west is hapless with China because it has now production chains. That’s why Russia is the only they rail against like spoiled kids.
Looking more like America’s future is The Insurrection Act of 1807. Interesting story of how this came about. Aaron Burr of shooting Alexander Hamilton in a duel fame, had been Vice President, ran for President several times, almost won thanks to an Electoral College glitch and was the founder of Manhattan Bank, which became Case Manhattan.
Killing Hamilton ruined Burr’s political career so he decided with the help of an Army General, some Politicians, Judges and Lawyers, some businessmen, there was no internet at the time and some foreign help was going to create his own Country right here in the United States. Sound familiar? He also wanted to start a war against Spain with an invasion of Mexico.
President Jefferson and James Madison came up with the Insurrection Act in order to give the President power over the Military and the National Guard just in case someone tried this crap again. TWT
It amazes me that with 9 days remaining of Trump’s presidency how badly they still want to hurt Trump. To me that screams far. They are still scared of Trump and his supporters.They could take a knee and run out the clock, instead they are still throwing 40 yard passes. So over the top. I fear for Trump supporters and their physical safety. On the other hand they do strike fear in their enemies..that may be very helpful in the future.
It looks like the civil war is going to be led by folks in furry hats with cow horns. It was pretty amusing to watch. They are hardly insurgents, though. It was kind of sad that three of the more elderly ones died of heart attacks because they got so excited.
Speaking of blaming Russia for one again attacking MeriKKKan democracy and the US “retaliating” for that purported “attack”, why do you suppose Mr. Putin, out of the clear blue sky, authorized the release of the following recently-declassified video just a few short months ago?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbC7BxXtOlo&feature=emb_logo
Regardless of Mr. Putin’s motivation, if you want to have some “fun”, go to the following web site and start dropping and discovering the certain consequences of poking the Russian Bear just a bit too hard!
https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/
It’s over when it’s over
And for that we have to wait a few more days
There are still chances for surprises
The way the dems are in Panic mode makes me think that they are in great fear
Look at Pelosi she is close to a stroke
Something is not as it should be
The dems should party now until 20 January its only 9 days
But they want to impeach Trump instead
Makes no sense to me
Some say that Trump signed the Insurrection Act. This could be the reason. The reason is the treason. haha …
It’s all fake, as usual.
Yes, all those things happen.
They are real in that sense.
But they were planned to happen and they are not the spontaneous result of smoldering issues.
On the contrary they were planned out and scheduled and choreographed to happen in a certain sequence and executed intentionally to create a certain narrative that isn’t even real.
Just like the Bavarian Illuminati worked within the Freemasons and the Jacobins and other secret organizations to create the French Revolution, so likewise, there is a hidden hand at work organizing events within Antifa, within the Trump supporters, within the police, within BLM, within the media, within the Biden camp, etc etc etc. All building toward the same goal. Chaos and violence and the crash of the US nation, to make room for the coming globalist superstate. Most of the people involved see only their own little part of the elephant. And they have no clue about the overall plan. Such conspiracies count on blind obedience and unthinking true believers.
During the last six or seven months I have seen the social and political situation in the U.S.A. resembling more and more that existing in Chile during the last year of the Salvador Allende presidency, in 1973, of which I was a direct witness, which moves me to contribute with a few brief points that I think will help for the analysis.
There are two points propose for consideration
1) Allende was abandoned by his political allies, and his social base, and left alone in the end to face the full wrath of the Chilean military, a situation Trump may find himself also, in extreme circumstances, but with a big difference between both cases. By September 1973 Allende was already seen as a failure as a president, a man without the capacities for the post he was occupying, feeling that was even shared by his own political base, so for the majority of the population the military coup arrived as something of a logical, if ugly and dirty, outcome of the process (if not the atrocities that came later, needless to say, that hadn’t been predicted by anyone with a right mind). But the fact is that by that time Allende himself had come to the conclusion he’d better leave and he was actually looking for ways to make a decent exit when the boom was dropped on him. That gave the “military intervention” as Pinochet and his pals called it, a well needed legitimate. People would sigh deeply and say, “well, if not that, what then…?” In the case of the U.S. and Trump the situation is very different: we have here a sitting president who is legitimate for the majority of the population (otherwise why would they need to steal the election…?) so there is no way for the newcomers to find any trace of legitimacy, despite all their efforts and those of their supporters. This difference is very important when it comes to the morale in the social & political base. The Allende crowd was utterly demoralized and divided when the coup came, not to mention unarmed so it was no match for the well-organized military. In the U.S. the case is the opposite, the Trump base is very angry, very well armed and may be at some point in time ready to take things in their own hands. 2) Perhaps the most important difference: Chile is a small country with a population of only about 1/20 of that of the U.S. so it is very easy for a well-armed, modern, disciplined army, and aviation, to seize complete control and to keep it for whatever time they want. Once in power, the only possible threats Pinochet could have possibly faced during his reign came for the military itself but he took care of that before any of them became a problem, making a very well use of the DINA, his own Gestapo, a gift the CIA had given to him for services rendered destroying Communism in Chile. Given the enormous size of the U.S., geographically, and its numerous population, I don’t think there is any chance for anything similar to happen there, no chance for any central power, no matter who or what, to seize full and total control of the whole nation and to hold it for any amount of time, No way, it will be like trying to hold in your bare hand a thousand wet anchovies. And that is the most important idea I can contribute with. Not only the art of war has become far more complex and unpredictable than during the 1860s, but also society itself has become far more complex, especially in a country as the U.S.. Yes, the big cities in the hands of the Democrats hold high technology infrastructure, the external routes, the airports, and so on, but on the other hand Blue states are the ones producing the food, the oil, etc, so both sides will have advantages that will even up the field, more or less. Furthermore, that would nullify also at least some of the advantages of having the military, or the most important part of them, on one’s side. For ex., I can’t see how the military would bring themselves to nuke regions, cities, with are an important part of the food supply for the country, for their own side, which would be like committing suicide, condemning their own side to starvation, not to mention exposing their own people to radioactive fallout. All put together, no, a civil war is something very unlikely in present day U.S.A. not to mention the fact that to achieve such a thing they would need millions of regular citizens on every side willing to go and kill people and risking be torn to pieces, all that to keep together a nation, or rather the idea of a nation (a beacon of democracy for the world, the city on the hill, etc) few of them believe in at this point in time anyway. Present day Americans, those who will be ready to go fight for something will rather do it to keep a parcel of this formerly great country, and that will be most likely their own state. Or city, or county. So rather than go by the thousands of millions to a new Gettysburg to fight and die or to become the victors, these new citizen militias will more likely flock to regions, states, where they think they’ll be welcome and feel comfortable, and the only fight they’ll do will be to get there and to keep that parcel of land as they wish it to be. At the end, if worst comes to worst, I don’t think this will end up in civil war (nobody came when invited) or in a Fascist dictatorship (no force or group capable of keeping full control of the entire U.S.A.). It will be simply the rather chaotic, and somewhat violent, disintegration of the country…what do you know, exactly what happened to the Soviet Union…! but with a bit more, or much more, violence and bloodshed.
Ok, but… The west has already collapsed and that’s a good thing. What were they offering?…
a) Christianity – a scam
b) Individualism – this went way too far (we all inhabit the same planet and thus there is a limit)
c) Capitalism – insane! Permanent growth on a finite planet?
d) Consumerism – ugh… don’t get me started.
e) Interventionism – militarization and the continuation of the British empire. Fatal and not well received by the rest of us non-exceptional morons.
f) 20th Century geopolitics – we now know what’s going on. No longer a zero-sum game. This must stop.
Thank “God” for the end of the west!! (I’m a westerner)
Let’s see what the BRICS can do :)
AM
Augustus, I agree with you 99%.
I would take at least some issue with Consumerism. All people gotta eat, have a decent, warm, place to live, maybe a means to learn and communicate, such as the modern computer, and some practical, not necessarily “stylish” clothes. Beyond that to gold-plated shower nozzles and “fancy” this and fancy that, I would also characterize as “consumerism”.
The growth issue is IMO paramount. The problem is that China and Russia and many other “non-western” countries are also all-in on perpetual growth, so on this issue, I would not count too much on BRICS. Mr. Putin wants Russians to have large families. For how long? China recently rescinded its one-child policy. Why? Not enough young laborers? How many are enough? Iran rescinded its “small family” policy a few years ago. Why? The following, published yesterday, describes one, apparently the most popular, “angle” on the “issue” of population; while of course completely ignoring all other “angles” that oppose the article’s a priori premises:
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/512182-covid-sex-falling-birth-rate/
There are easily-explicable, mostly economic, but also political, reasons why humanity, up to this point in time/history, has been literally FORCED to increase its population to whatever the total number of humans is today, and will literally force humanity to do so from now on until those reasons go away.
It is ever so interesting to see how “war by deception” works. Nobody dares here to say the name of the enemy, but eg. “international anti-fascist coalition” is named. Well, that is good, because actually that does name the enemy.
In USA it is now exactly the so-called “international anti-fascist coalition”, which is in power. They have another name, which spells “Jewish anti-fascist coalition”. And a fascist is a word describing all individuals, who do not promptly obey the “international anti-fascist coalition”.
Somebody said, quite rightly: “We are all palestinians!” And we are, we truly are, but that definition is not quite correct. Oh no, if you do not like the elite, you are, for sure, a palestinian, but do not forget that you are also, deep in your heart, a fascist. That is by definition. You can only cure yourself, if you publicly vow total obedience to the “international anti-fascist coalition”. Kneel, and obey, and you may, if you admit your guilt everyday, humbly, go on living your miserable fascist life.