by Paul Craig Roberts for Information Clearing House
A number of commentators have expressed their idealistic belief in the purity of Mousavi, Montazeri, and the westernized youth of Terhan. The CIA destabilization plan, announced two years ago (see below) has somehow not contaminated unfolding events.
The claim is made that Ahmadinejad stole the election, because the outcome was declared too soon after the polls closed for all the votes to have been counted. However, Mousavi declared his victory several hours before the polls closed. This is classic CIA destabilization designed to discredit a contrary outcome. It forces an early declaration of the vote. The longer the time interval between the preemptive declaration of victory and the announcement of the vote tally, the longer Mousavi has to create the impression that the authorities are using the time to fix the vote. It is amazing that people don’t see through this trick.
As for the grand ayatollah Montazeri’s charge that the election was stolen, he was the initial choice to succeed Khomeini, but lost out to the current Supreme Leader. He sees in the protests an opportunity to settle the score with Khamenei. Montazeri has the incentive to challenge the election whether or not he is being manipulated by the CIA, which has a successful history of manipulating disgruntled politicians.
There is a power struggle among the ayatollahs. Many are aligned against Ahmadinejad because he accuses them of corruption, thus playing to the Iranian countryside where Iranians believe the ayatollahs’ lifestyles indicate an excess of power and money. In my opinion, Ahmadinejad’s attack on the ayatollahs is opportunistic. However, it does make it odd for his American detractors to say he is a conservative reactionary lined up with the ayatollahs.
Commentators are “explaining” the Iran elections based on their own illusions, delusions, emotions, and vested interests. Whether or not the poll results predicting Ahmadinejad’s win are sound, there is, so far, no evidence beyond surmise that the election was stolen. However, there are credible reports that the CIA has been working for two years to destabilize the Iranian government.
On May 23, 2007, Brian Ross and Richard Esposito reported on ABC News: “The CIA has received secret presidential approval to mount a covert “black” operation to destabilize the Iranian government, current and former officials in the intelligence community tell ABC News.”
On May 27, 2007, the London Telegraph independently reported: “Mr. Bush has signed an official document endorsing CIA plans for a propaganda and disinformation campaign intended to destabilize, and eventually topple, the theocratic rule of the mullahs.”
A few days previously, the Telegraph reported on May 16, 2007, that Bush administration neocon warmonger John Bolton told the Telegraph that a US military attack on Iran would “be a ‘last option’ after economic sanctions and attempts to foment a popular revolution had failed.”
On June 29, 2008, Seymour Hersh reported in the New Yorker: “Late last year, Congress agreed to a request from President Bush to fund a major escalation of covert operations against Iran, according to current and former military, intelligence, and congressional sources. These operations, for which the President sought up to four hundred million dollars, were described in a Presidential Finding signed by Bush, and are designed to destabilize the country’s religious leadership.”
The protests in Tehran no doubt have many sincere participants. The protests also have the hallmarks of the CIA orchestrated protests in Georgia and Ukraine.
It requires total blindness not to see this.
Daniel McAdams has made some telling points. http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/027782.html For example, neoconservative Kenneth Timmerman wrote the day before the election that “there’s talk of a ‘green revolution’ in Tehran.” How would Timmerman know that unless it was an orchestrated plan? Why would there be a ‘green revolution’ prepared prior to the vote, especially if Mousavi and his supporters were as confident of victory as they claim? This looks like definite evidence that the US is involved in the election protests.
Timmerman goes on to write that “the National Endowment for Democracy has spent millions of dollars promoting ‘color’ revolutions . . . Some of that money appears to have made it into the hands of pro-Mousavi groups, who have ties to non-governmental organizations outside Iran that the National Endowment for Democracy funds.” Timmerman’s own neocon Foundation for Democracy is “a private, non-profit organization established in 1995 with grants from the National Endowment for Democracy (NED), to promote democracy and internationally-recognized standards of human rights in Iran.”
Interesting is that in the youtube videos where they showed today in the TV,almost nobody from the rioter wear green.Almost nobody.
I love the way You are calling them the Guccis . Bravo .
did you notice how the BBC is now admitting it made a “mistake” showing a Pro Ahmadinejad and describing it as Pro Moussavi (ahmadinejad was simply deleted from the Photo ) But it did not admitt it on its FRONt page but on one of its blogs .
Here
@Fatima: yeah, that reminds me of how during the Bosnian war they showed a terrorized kid with some funny hat being held at gunpoint by thug-like “Bosnian Serbs”. Anyone from the region could have told those dumb Anglos that this kid was wearing a Šajkača, a typical Serbian hat.
Same methods, different targets, same results.
Sickening.
Saker,
Have you ever read the following Scott Ritter report which I was recently made aware of:
Dinner With Ahmed
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20080317_dinner_with_ahmed/
Most definitely the Neocons continue to have connections and are still at work….
Meanwile…
Israel’s deployments in Lebanon raise tension
Sat, 20 Jun 2009 07:56:23 GMT
The Lebanese Army has condemned recent Israeli deployments inside Lebanon’s borders, saying that it will follow up the move through international bodies.
The army said in a statement on Friday that the recent erection of an observation post and a military facility by Israel on the outskirts of the Kfar Shouba Hills of Lebanon is against the international resolutions and also against the United Nations’ frontier line between Lebanon and Israel.
Responding to the Israeli violation of Lebanese territory Lebanon called the action “provocative” and deployed its own army units in the area on Friday.
“In a clear violation of a restricted area of Lebanese territory, and in an attempt to impose a new reality on the ground, the Israeli enemy on Wednesday set up an observation post at the edge of Kfar Shouba and a military position overlooking Baathaeel pond, violating the imaginary line that (UNIFIL) delineated anew, which it considers to be the Israeli withdrawal line,” said the statement, making reference to the Blue Line designated by the UN in 2000.
“Given this provocative stance, Lebanese Army units in the region deployed patrols along the border,” it added. The army said it was following up on Israel’s violation with UNIFIL officials in order “to resolve this urgent situation”, The Daily Star reported.
Israel seized control of the Farms in 1967, when it also captured the Syrian Golan Heights.
UN Resolution 1701 was adopted in August 2006 following Israel’s 33-day war against Lebanon. The resolution binds Israel to pull its forces out of the village of Ghajar and the Kfar Shouba Hills.
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=98559§ionid=351020203
@Mari: thanks, interesting read. Nope, I had not seen it before, so double thanks ;-)
Of course, the neocons are still at work. Sure, the visibily discredited crowd like Rumsfeld or Wolfowitz might not be much involved, but the Neocon’s puppet masters, the Zionists, are still in full control of the USA. The feeble attempt of the Anglos to pry them away from the levers of power have utterly failed.
Uncle Shmuel is still running the show…
So, in the name of “progressive” values you end up supporting a theorcratic and authoritarian regime? Strange. It’s the wrong side of history folks. And if, per chance the CIA is involved in this affiar (highly doubtful), then I will support them being on the side of openness and freedom for once in their miserable institutional history.
@Charles:So, in the name of “progressive” values you end up supporting a theorcratic and authoritarian regime?
Nope. For my opinion of “progressive” values and their supporters see here:
http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/2009/06/gullible-useless-clueless-and-mindless.html
My own “ideological” leaning is the one Malcolm X so aptly expressed:
“I am for truth, no matter who tells it”
No more, no less.
And in that spirit, let me break the news to you:
Iran is a democracy. Its Constitution was approved by popular referendum, and its sytem of checks and balances is far more sophistacated than the one in, say, the USA.
And if you think that the CIA can be on the side of “openness and freedom” – I got a bridge I want to sell you.
Cheers!
Speaking about the CIA:
Taliban defectors: US, Israel funding militants
“…A prominent militant leader, Turkistan Bittani, who broke away from Baitullah Mehsud, called him “an American agent”.
Mehsud, a warlord in his late 30s, has claimed responsibility for dozens of devastating string attacks on both civilians and security forces throughout the feared region.
Moreover, Baetani emphasized that Mehsud was being funded by US and Israeli intelligence services for brainwashing innocent youths.
The insurgents’ chief has recruited several teenagers who have carried out dozens of suicide attacks on Pakistani mosques and educational institutes over some past months.
Baetani also noted that al-Qaeda and Taliban’s leadership was never targeted in the dozens of US drone strikes in the country’s troubled north-west region. …”
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=98499§ionid=351020401
Now this I am inclined to believe, which begs the question for who do all of these intelligence agencies actually work?
Correction: Now this I am inclined to believe, which begs the question for whose interests do all of these intelligence agencies actually work?
Read your link and you seem pretty secure in your views in a dogmatic sort of way. (Hence your misreading of my CIA point and thinking I’d want to but a bridge). But if you or your compatriots are open to disconfirmation of your views I’d offer the following two links:
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/06/19
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cynthia-boaz/the-green-revolution-belo_b_217701.html
Cheers in return.
About what’s happening in Tehran’s streets:
By the way, two nights ago I went out to see a few things … as the general crowds spread into their homes militia style Mousavi supporters were out on the streets ‘Basiji hunting’.
Their resolve is no less than these thugs — they after hunting them down. They use their phones, their childhood friends, their intimate knowledge of their districts and neighbours to plan their attacks — they’re organised and they’re supported by their community so they have little fear. They create the havoc they’re after, ambush the thugs, use their Cocktail Molotovs, disperse and re-assemble elsewhere and then start again – and the door of every house is open to them as safe harbour — they’re community-connected.
The Basiji’s are not.
These are not the students in the dorms, they’re the street young — they know the ways better than most thugs – and these young, a surprising number of them girls, are becoming more agile in their ways as each night passes on.
Also, with $10K every local police station lock can be broken and guns taken out…the police too are crowd friendly…for sure put a gun in their hands and these young become a serious counter-balance to the Basij…call them 10% of 18-22 year olds – that makes circa 10 million around the country versus max 4 million Basijis.
From: http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/2009/06/the_four_iran_s/
About the claim that there’s no foreing involvment, http://www.nonviolent-conflict.org/rscs_csmArticle.shtml
You may also like to give a read to these PDFs: http://www.canvasopedia.org/content/special/core.htm
Useful tool: a list of fake and suspect Iranian twitters http://twitspam.org/?p=1403
More extensive news about NED in Iran: http://www.zmag.org/znet/viewArticle/2501
Alex,
It appears you are really doing your homework which I would give you an A for ….
Thanks for the links and good info….
Charles,
Your links such as “The Iranian Uprising is Home Grown, and Must Stay That Way” suck, because it is more than obvious that the “Left” here in the U.S. has been planning and supporting this attempted coup d’état, along with the Neocon “right”all along and that these reports in the world of propaganda are just diversionary tactics…..
The CIA is behind Jundallah and Moujaheedeen Khalq BOTH terrorist groups who have spread terror in iran to distabilize it .
MjK has been armed and funded and protected by the US gov since the invasion of Iraq , and while the iraqis want them out , the US is still protecting them Yet they have killed and bombed many areas in iran .
UK Foreign Minister Miliband: “The thesis of conspiracy by foreign powers against Iran is peddled vociferously by the regime”
Propaganda Alert
by Cem Ertür
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=14038
Mary: :-)
This comes from Iranian media only: they say there were people from MEK/MKO in the crowds, that were arrested and confessed (here http://www.habilian.com/view-en.asp?ID=03629 and here http://www.presstv.ir/detail/98647.htm?sectionid=351020101 ). I don’t know how that can be reliable, however, Juan Cole too seems to point the finger against the MEK for the attempt to the Khomeini shrine ( http://www.juancole.com/2009/06/it-begins.html ). Another thing to keep an eye on.
alex I saw the report on Press TV where these MKO recruits openly confessed(in Translation of course) to being trained in Iraq and ordered by the MKO leader to create chaos in the Iranian streets between the people and the security forces…
Saker,
In today’s Haaretz, Shimon Perez is quoted as encouraging the protesters to overthrow the government. Now, Perez is many things, but stupid isn’t one of them. He knows perfectly well he will be repeated on Iranian state media and it will discredit the protesters. Why then is he saying it? Is it just more psycho-warfare, or perhaps he fears a Musavi government…even if Khamenei is replaced by Montazari…would be a more skilled opponent of Zionism? What is your take.
I hate to seem paranoid but when it comes to international relations, at all times I have to assume someone is trying to head fake me.
Virtual Unrest
Saion Athelinas 26-Feb-2008
http://www.the-diplomat.com/article.aspx?aeid=5802
“In today’s Haaretz, Shimon Perez is quoted as encouraging the protesters to overthrow the government.”
Could he be trying to send a message to Jewish Iranians?
@ Mari:
Personally, I take these news about the MKO/MEK with a bit of skepticism for a reason. I’m in no way a supporter of MKO, but actually the record of Iranian government about those groups (not only MEK, but also Jundallah, Pejak and so on) is not exactly clear and fair, take for example the execution of three people tied to the group that claimed the responsability for the attempt to the mosque of some weeks ago, but that could not be in no way those that actually put the bomb there.
But since Western mainstream media seem in no way interested in dealing with the complexity of what’s really going on in Iran these days (thanks also to the excuse of the embargo against western media put by Iranian government), news like these are given only by official Iranian media, and so is very difficult to probe them.
In this case, since the possibility of a MKO/MEK involvement has been raised also from a source like Juan Cole, that cannot in any way be suspected of simpathy towards the Iranian government, that makes the thing more reliable.
Hi Mari,
The connection between Jewish Iranians and the Shah must be palpable but I am really guessing.
Do you see any connection there?
About that:
Over the past days, the Persian section of Radio Israel aired exclusive “emergency” programs to cover the “Iran crises” by inviting “experts” and “scholars” who would unanimously invite the supporters of Mir-Hossein Mousavi to storm into the streets, call for the transformation of the Islamic government and destabilize the routine transportation, business and daily life in every way by burning the public facilities, mosques, universities and shops. The peaceful and nonviolent demonstrations of the protesting youths and pro-reform supporters of Mir-Hossein Mousavi who were demanding their votes be officially “respected” by the authorities was soon mixed with the illicit and criminal actions of the U.S. and Israel-backed revolts and mutineers whose ultimate desire was to see a “velvet revolution” going on everywhere in Iran.
From: http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/06/20/the-idol-breaker-ahmadi-and-where-are-my-votes/
I am unsure if you vey well informed folks have seen this but here
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/187377-The-CIA-and-the-Iranian-experiment-From-Mossadegh-to-Ahmadinejad
“The connection between Jewish Iranians and the Shah must be palpable but I am really guessing.
Do you see any connection there?”
I really do not know ritalin, I was just making a guess that it might be possible that Peres has called for an overthrow of the government to send a signal to some of the Jews living there…
Here’s a close up of the lone ‘policeman’ who shot from a rooftop into a crowd. According to the blogger (who is a nutter, but anyway) ‘he does not look Iranian’… and calls him ‘a mercenary’. Interesting stuff!
http://noiri.blogspot.com/2009/06/time-constraint-till-tonight.html
There were these rumours of non-Iranians shooting at people.
Mercenaries? Possibly.
@Adam:
On the Twitter channel of Iranelection some people posted tweets about the fact that Iranian government brought in Iran people from Hamas to suppress the protests (here http://twitter.com/banjobird/statuses/2254359824 ).
Anyway there’s a lot of speculation about foreing people hanging around in Iran killing protestors and/or policemen. I don’t know if it’s real or just some racist thinking (“Persians could never kill other Persians! It must be some foreign mercenaires!”).
“Hamas Arabs from Lebanon” …huh?! lol
Well it shows what they think of resistance movements anyway…
@Charles: funny that you would say that I am secure in my views in a “dogmatic way” and in the same sentence assume that I am Iranian when, in fact, I am neither Iranian, nor Shia, nor even Muslism. In fact, I never have set foot in Iran in my entire life (much to my regret, I would add).
And, in the spirit of offering a change for “disconfirmation” to you, may I point you to my latest post:
http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/2009/06/power-of-basij-thug.html
“Here’s a close up of the lone ‘policeman’ who shot from a rooftop into a crowd. According to the blogger (who is a nutter, but anyway) ‘he does not look Iranian’… and calls him ‘a mercenary’. Interesting stuff!”–Mr. Adam
I don’t know if he looks Iranian or not as I am sure they all differ in looks depending on their roots, but he certainly does look to be an older man…
Mr Adam June 22, 2009 12:36 AM
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The blog whose link you provided, smells fishy at a **hasbara** site.
The description of the photo laks any bit of subjectivity:
IT THE MEANTIME THE PHOTO IS OF THE MERCENARY, NON-IRANIAN, LOOKS PALESTINIAN, MURDERER WHO FIRED ON THE CROWD
Note how the blogger links murderer+mercenary+palestinian, based on his own appreciations.
Or, do the palestinians have their nationality written on their fronts for all to see? How that this blogger know the gunman is a Palestinian? How does he know this gunman was precisely the one who shot at the girl?
More to the point: Someone quoting on his profile he’s doing (or did, whatever) intel work in Iran is a plain cretin that must be fired, were this true. Intel work is wrapped in secrecy; a real intel officer would never let you know.
LOL
Why would you think I assumed you were Iranian? Because of my use of the word “compatriot?” Another misreading, though to be fair “compatriot” often refers to “countryman.” But it can also refer to compeer or colleague. So to clarify I was referring to your ideological compatriots found commenting on your blog. Remember, I previously stated that I read the link you provided and somewhere in it you indicate that you were and Orthodox Christian. Consequently I didn’t assume you were Iranian. But even if I did think you were Iranian, what would that have to do with your “dogmatism?” What sort of assumption is at work there?!
Now if I had to assume I would suspect that you are British, or possibly American. We tend to be dogmatic enough for the rest of the world.
The ideological tenor most of what I’ve found here is, in a word, reactionary, in a couple of senses. First, methodologically it tends to react on the basis of unclear and confusing information and then makes logical leaps about the intent of the various parties involved. Conspiratorial thinking tends to be like this. Secondly it ends up lending support to some very politically reactionary forces at work, despite it’s best attempts at the contrary. In this respect it really is the mirror image of neo-conservativism and thus, ironically, proceeds from many of the same assumptions. I can elaborate further if there’s any interest.
But as an example consider Mari’s response to the links I provided. According to her “they “suck”. Fair enough. But why do they suck? “because it is more than obvious that the “Left” here in the U.S. has been planning and supporting this attempted coup d’état, along with the Neocon “right”all along and that these reports in the world of propaganda are just diversionary tactics”.
That must be news to Zunes and Boaz and others (like myself), who for years have been on teaching our students about 1953 in Iran and other CIA coups and to beware of Western (specifically U.S.) interventions. Again, inconvenient facts. And this in between her and Alex’s updating of the “Protocols of the Elders of Zion.” Again, funny reactionary stuff.
Thanks to your link about the media frames around “Basij thugs”. No doubt in the future you’ll be deconstructing the origin of the term “Gucci.” When you do I’ll use both on the section of media in the class I teach on “Power and Powerlessness”.
Remember: I am for truth, no matter who tells it.
In the continuing spirit of openness to disconfirmation consider some of the recent dispatches of Robert Fisk from Iran. For instance,
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/fisk/robert-fiskrsquos-world-in-tehran-fantasy-and-reality-make-uneasy-bedfellows-1710762.html
His work should leave all partisans troubled and humbled by what they think they know. And no Mari, he’s not a Zionist. Not even a Jew!
LOL.