from Gleb Bazov’s Slaviangrad website:
Against the Oligarchs and False Politicians. For the People.
Novorossiya shall be! Oligarchs out! Power to the real, common people! This is our [first] chance in many decades to build an equitable, human and humane society.
WITH RESPECT TO STRELKOV HAVING BEEN BETRAYED AND BETRAYAL IN GENERAL.
There are so many who did not like what was begun and do not want to push it to its logical conclusion!
They only have money, offices and portfolios in their heads! But why did the people of the South-East rise up??? Was it just so that they could lose countless lives, lose their livelihoods, lose their confidence in the future?
If we are fighting for the interests of the people, is it not up to the people themselves to decide the outcome of this struggle? See it through completely… 
Who among these so-called members of the governments of the DPR and the LPR bothered to ask the opinion of the Militiamen, who lose their comrades in battles; the opinion of the relatives, who lost fathers, sons and daughters in this struggle for the right to live free and to choose their own path? I believe none of them did. All this seems to be a farce; a spectacle, in which the role of the people of Novorossiya is to be extras on the set.
There have now been several stages of this betrayal of Novorossiya (including the ‘resignation’ of Igor Ivanovich Strelkov). In my opinion, right now, we are witnessing another attempt, by means of negotiations, to stop the resistance and to prevent the destruction of the oligarchic power in Ukraine. The fifth column in action… The transfer of power from the oligarchy to the people—right now this is the so-called international community’s nightmare. It became clear to everyone long ago that the world is ruled by the likes of Valtsman [Poroshenko], Chubais and the Rockefellers. For these, removal from power is akin to death.
And what do we see now? ARRANGEMENTS! And with whom? At the negotiating table: the venerable Kuchma! During his reign, the fat cats only gained momentum and swelled their appetites! Corruption soared to inexplicable heights. He should be prosecuted, not negotiated with! What will happen to the special status of Novorossiya, when all the same contract killers will remain? What guarantees can be discussed with people that have eliminated the word TRUTH from their vocabulary?
Only Kiev’s capitulation can resolve the current situation. Only a separation of business interests from government can offer the chance to build a state with a human face. And only the prosecution of those who hold power, of the world “elite” can enable the people to regain their dignity. Otherwise it was all for naught—all the slogans and all the victims.
Do we want to remain as marionettes in the hands of the armchair intellectuals? I am not satisfied with such a prospect! We did not take up arms just to stop halfway.
There always was and always will be fear. Right now, many are afraid of the coming winter. But this is animal fear. I am much more afraid of staying as a serf—of remaining an animal in the hands of the glossy feudal lords.
I will continue to the end! Until we reach the intended target! Until the full and unconditional victory of the free and proud Russian Slavic World!!!
What about Akhmetov? The traitor has his fiefdom ensured. Some oligarchs are “worser” than others. They should all go on the dung heap in Ukraine and Russia
The fins seemed to be able to fight in the wild but how good are people who lived in cities? He can be against the ceasefire and want freedom and what not but in this day and age you can not live without support of logistics. Which means food, water, electricity, sewage, medicines, Internet and all the other things of civilization and like why strelkov who resigned when he could not get food, no one else can fight without food either. It is why cauldrons work to destroy the enemy. No supplies means you are disarmed.
It is also why something like the IS can not function without state support.
Look at the economic damage to Israel with a few rockets. They were not in a real war either.. They lost close to $10bil because a prison they pretty much controlled threw a few firecrackers at them which disrupted logistics that delivered food, energy, tourists etc. You cant fight a modern war with muskets and hunting reindeers.
I wonder why Saker posts this week-old statement now. Did you change your opinion?
I think Putin is a wrong if he thinks he can change the whole of Ukraine to become pro-russian by not creating Novorossiya now.
I think Novorossiya is needed in order to put pressure on the rest of Ukraine to change.
After that, it is up to the people to either join back up or stay independent.
What are we talking about? Plebeian rule? The unwashed and fickle masses, that in one fit are screaming about freedom from thieving oligarchs to the next breath wanting to enslave the Russian population? And in the western countries generally, they are hopelessly blithering idiots. I wouldn’t trust any of them with my pet rock!
I liked what Brain suggested in his last conference, and what the ancient Greeks demanded of their leaders: public office can only be held by combat vets, no exceptions.
Voting? Not unless you pass a competency test on whatever subject you are voting on. Politically incorrect you say? I do not care.
Ah yes, music to every plutocrat’s ear. No doubt they work day and night to convince the masses to buy more of what you’re selling. How dare we aspire to have a voice in the decisions that effect our lives!
Mozgovoi, and the others which are loyal to the dream of Novorussia will probably have to dissolve their battle groups and wage a long guerilla campaign, probably severeal years minimum against the Kiev-Oligarchy and their nazi enforcers before Novorussia can be born.. It is obvious that as soon you accept alittle help from Moscow they will use it against you for their own interests.. Novorussia will have to be won by the current citizens of Ukraine with little to no help from Russia…
It should actually not be so “hard”..Not compared to regular warfare anyway…IRA in Ireland never hade more then 50 active “soldiers” and a few hundred active supporters and they managed to tie up the UK army for decades and cost the UK goverment billions, until it reach the point when the UK goverment simply had enough and negotiated.. NAF currently has thousands of native Donbass people on their side, if these were to be convert to guerilla fighters dedicating themselves to assinations, sabotage and such, they could bring the entire eastern Ukraine to economic ruin in less then 10 years probably.. Of course I am no military expert. But the potential for a successfull guerilla warfare in eastern Ukraine seems guaranteed, and Ukraine is in horrible shape compared to UK. Especially after the Oligarchy-nazi battalions artillery bombardments of civilians.
“Only Kiev’s capitulation can resolve the current situation.”
An admirable aspiration … but an absolutely unachieveable goal.
However the present situation plays out, cool heads, with realistic prospects, must prevail.
Here is an excerpt from another, earlier interview with Alexei Mozgovoy:
http://slavyangrad.org/2014/09/02/an-interview-with-alexey-mozgovoy-commander-of-the-lugansk-ghost-brigade-290814/
“Q: Why did this idea come into being—the creation of Novorossia, separate from Ukraine?
A: I, like many people in Novorossia, cannot live with the ideology which the West has forced upon Kiev. I cannot understand same-sex marriages; juvenile justice; when the parents are not allowed to bring up their children. They have already torn us from our roots. And now, they are forbidding from being ourselves.
Q: And where are your roots? What is your nationality?
A: My nationality is Human.
Q: Who are you ancestors? Just out of curiosity…
A: My ancestors are the Don Cossacks. I was born in Ukraine, in a village called Nizhnyaya Duvanka, in the Svatovsk area, Lugansk region.
Q: Do you have a military education or background?
A: Seven years in service in the Ukrainian Army. Two years compulsory, five on contract.
Q: What did you do after the army?
A: You can say that before these events, I did nothing at all. Only now have I started living.
Build the Underground Red Army of New Russia!
Build the Underground Red Army of New Soviet Ukraine!
– from Nazi-occupied Amerika
A while ago I asked some questions about several people that have power in Russia, one of them being Chubais (but also the Rotenberg brothers).
My comment was not allowed at the time because it also expressed some doubts about Putin’s real plan.
Now I see that the name Chubais (the one who implemented the “shock therapy” which led to so much destruction in the 90’s) is mentioned here … surprise, surprise.
Can someone who knows for sure answer this fundamental question: is it true that Russia can only issue an amount of rubles (currency) proportional with the reserves it has in dollars and euros ? It might be complete bullshit, but someone mentioned this on some blog. What I know for sure is that Russia (and China) are members of the BIS bank from Basel, Switzerland and maybe that bank imposes some rules for its members in order to perform the “payments clearings”. Since the BIS is controlled by the old banking families of Europe and if Russia obeys them financially, then we can understand who still has the final word. But again, I might be wrong and maybe some of you know the answer for sure.
On a different note, why is the new development bank created by BRICS still using the dollar to specify the amount of funds they have ?
Russia, like the US, China, Japan, and Australia is a sovereign currency issuer and has no restraint save the availability of resources for sale in exchange for its currency.
Finally a voice from the people of the Donbass and a moment to try and get it right. Mozgovoi is talking real revolution by the people not just trading one set of oligarchs for another.
bravo
The situation on the ground was possible only by Russian troop/volunteers being added. They number in the the thousands, apparently. Also the Russians trained 1200 militia for the latest offensive.
How the military victory the militia heroes like Brain and Shooter envision could come about with Russian involvement is quite difficult to imagine.
Perhaps it will come if the ceasefire breaks down and the Ukies are again slaughtered. However, this first wave of thousands of Russians will soon go home again. And if another wave does not come to help, the militia will not be able to continue an offensive.
In other words, Novorossiya may be able to free its entire area and defeat the junta. But it has to do it with Russian troops alongside as volunteers in large numbers.
Putin wants them to defeat the nazis, defeat the junta and be the clear winner on the ground in a way that makes official Russian involvement plausibly deniable.
They have to stay on board with that plan. It is bigger than their idealism and dream.
Their zeal has blinded them to a reality: they do not have enough support among the people of Donbass to sustain a guerrilla war. It isn’t just the Kiev junta and oligarch battalions. They are up against the swine of NATO. No one can defeat that supply line of mercs and machines without Russian help.
They need to see this war how Russians see it from Russia. It can’t be lost, abandoned or sold off. It must be won. Putin cannot survive anything less than victory.
The militia leaders must learn patience.
I think he gave an impassioned speech yesterday that the two politicians in Novorossiya behind this ceasefire must resign. Their perceived treachery is opposed by 90% of the citizens and 100% of the fighters.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1542960322593981
Perhaps the ceasefire was a clever plan to get rid of those working for Akhmetov or Surkov?
“You can say that before these events, I did nothing at all. Only now have I started living.”
Here is an interview with Alexey Mozogovoi at slavangrad.org. Alexey Mozgovoi is a man who found a life worth living. I read the interview several times to savor the voice of a real man, who is not seduced by bread alone, but fights for the future of humanity.
Fully agree Larchmonter 445.
I am watching from afar and am no position to judge individuals, weigh the complexities of your unique circumstances or to tell the heroic warriors and people of Novorussia what you must or must not do. But please allow me to share an insight.
In addition to revolutionary anger, revolutionary principles and revolutionary zeal, there is another vital distinction: revolutionary patience.
The situation in Ukraine keeps reminding me of the Korean situation in 1950. A people’s government, with roots in the struggle for independence from Japanese colonialism, faced off against a brutal puppet government made up of former Japanese collaborators, rich landowners and industrialists and American-trained thugs, propped up with American arms and advisors. A government that ruled by intimidation and death squads, not unlike the one you face in Kiev.
On paper South Korea (ROK) had an overwhelming military advantage over the People’s Republic (DPRK), and it threatened loudly and often to reunite Korea by the sword. The leaders of the Democratic People’s Republic (DPRK) however understood that the morale of the ROK’s conscript army was very weak.
The record shows that Kim Il Sung, the DPRK leader, was restrained by a refusal of Stalin to agree to an assault on the South, despite each day’s provocations, each day’s bitter harvest of murdered peoples’ leaders and activists. Kim is reported to have requested Stalin’s nod some thirty times, with increasing urgency, before the Soviet leadership gave in, or perhaps they just gave up trying to stop him.
As predicted, the ROK army crumpled and fled in panic before the DPRK troops, who drove the remnants and a small American force before them the length of the peninsula and almost into the sea. A complete rout.
The larger result was a historic disaster for Korea, as a full scale American invasion and massive bombing campaign utterly leveled North Korea and killed a huge proportion of its population. The doomed ROK was restored and lives on to this day under American occupation. Over 60 years later the Korean Peninsula still lives under the daily threat of renewed war and destruction.
Geopolitically also, the war was an epic disaster, providing the pretext and narrative for the Cold War, for crushing the anti-imperialist, communist and workers movements in the US, for founding NATO and laying the groundwork for preparing an assault on Russia and China using nuclear weapons – a war that the record shows very nearly happened.
If the leadership of the DPRK had trusted Stalin’s advice, and – bitter and horrifying as the cost might be – patiently supported the struggle of their countrymen in the South without trying to finish it with a military death blow, the Cold War might have been much harder to launch and the Korean people might have been spared the much worse nightmare that ensued.
By contrast, the much more patient leadership of North Vietnam, while not able to avoid a war in the South that saw scores of thousands of the people’s leaders murdered followed by a devastating American War that killed millions, were able to avoid the kind of total destruction visited on North Korea – and “in the fullness of time” they won! Vietnam is one country now, and at peace.
I love everything Mozgovoi says, but this is a very large ambition he articulates, and I cannot see that the Donbas actually wants it right now. And if Larchmonter’s military assessments are correct, then apparently the means don’t even exist at this time.
Again I turn to Alexander Mercouris who is at least an expert in international law. In his latest post – on his Facebook page again and nowhere else – he actually parses the Protocol that was signed by the parties. He doesn’t expect anyone to abide by the document, but he spends considerable time reviewing as an act of mercy for the countless people currently agonizing over it.
I wish he would re-publish these posts in his blog, because not everyone has a Facebook account but I’m not complaining. His recent posts on the Minsk maneuvers comprise the most realistic and expert view of anyone I’ve read anywhere, in my opinion. They’re all worth reposting for wider circulation I think.
Anyway, check it out if you’re tired of confusion about Minsk and you’d like to rest easier about the legalities of the document. Along the way, marvel at the fact that NAF is now a party to the Protocol (i.e. has legal standing in world law) and that Russia is also (i.e. has legal presence in the conflict). Not that anyone will interpret things this way, but once again Russia has followed the precise letter of the law, and I for one am impressed.
Note also that there is no official translation of the document, which is in Russian, and co-signed by Russia but not by the US or EU, who were not parties. I weight this fact pretty highly, personally.
Here’s Mercouris’s analysis, which is long but beautifully to the point:
Some points concerning the Ceasefire
And here’s his conclusion:
“The key lesson of the last few weeks is that the NAF can no longer be defeated, that Russia is now involved, that the US/EU are no longer involved in any meaningful way and that the junta having been defeated and facing an economic crisis is left facing the NAF and Russia by itself. In the Ukraine it is unwise to count on anything but the balance in this conflict has now shifted decisively. I do not see how that will change. For what it’s worth that is also the assessment in Britain. The mood here in the news media is one of humiliation and failure.”
Larchmonter,
re: They need to see this war how Russians see it from Russia. It can’t be lost, abandoned or sold off. It must be won. Putin cannot survive anything less than victory.
The militia leaders must learn patience.
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Sure, but the folks in Moscow need to understand that those in Novorossiya feel like a pawn at best to those in the Kremlin. It is not exactly a secret that Russia has been happy with the oligarchs like Kuchma or Yanukovich, and they are the cause of the current mess. The Kremlin might be ecstatic to return to the way things were a year ago, but the mess today is due to that. You can’t have large numbers of Nazi paramilitaries running around and not have a disaster. For that matter, you can’t have ridiculously anti-Russian textbooks and TV without a disaster.
By the way, I ran into a quote some months back that was attributed to high circles in Moscow along the lines of “We made a mistake in thinking that everything in the Ukraine could be resolved by money.” In other words, all problems can go away by an extra billion to Kuchma or Yanukovich or whoever. Note that they didn’t have the energy or money to use soft power; they didn’t even seem to care. So the locals in Novorossiya are probably remembering the last 23 years, not just this ceasefire. All the while, the Kremlin looks back fondly on the glory days of the easy-to-do-business-with oligarchs.
A few more words.
This afternoon, I came upon an old man begging for money on an American street. He told of being unable to live on his disability pension, and of being denied his veterans benefits because he had been dishonorably discharged. When I asked him what for, he said it was because he tried to shoot his officer, a hung-ho young lieutenant who had gotten two of his buddies killed. He was apologetic about having missed.
This was a very common and widespread problem for the US Army in Vietnam. It even had a special name, “fragging”. The US forces also presented with massive drug use, refusing orders to attack, and huge numbers of servicemen’s riots and demonstrations inside Vietnam.
Thus the more patient Vietnamese strategy, though it took over 20 years to final victory, dealt a global strategic defeat to the US. To this day our Masters of War don’t dare try to raise and field another conscript army, and can only field such armed forces as they can pay cash money for, an ability which is running out.
I’m not suggesting that the Ukraine Civil War need take 20 years. Just that ignoring global strategy and the requests of the players confronting the Empire globally could end badly.
Trusting the people of Ukraine to endure and learn and finally win could end much better in time.
All today’s conflicts, everywhere in the world, ultimately come down to the people’s struggle against rule by the tiny inbred power elites. If one could simply one day kill about 1,000 of those Elites, the entire world would change greatly for the better.
Here’s a relevant video: The Tiny Dot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6b70TUbdfs
The Western puppet ‘leaders’ clearly yearn to start a real war with Russia. For the apparent purpose to prop up the US dollar and the underlying central fiat banking global theft scam, on which all Elite power ultimately rests. And their precious ‘global cull’ dreams of playing perpetual lords over a world reduced to true serfdom.
I like to imagine that if the Zionist/Neocon scum do manage to start that war, then Russia would spare some of it’s ICBMs to target the known locations of the worst of the global Elite parasites.
In the meantime, best of luck to the Novorussian people, in their struggle to break free of oligarch control. I hope they are aware that if they _did_ succeed, the Elite reaction would be even more hysterical and barbaric than now.
TerraHertz
@C
Please don’t use the example of the Korean War in a 1:1 comparison to the events in the Ukraine. It would’ve been far better for the Korean people if China had not intervened and let MacArthur push the NorKs across the Yalu River.
History is messy and sometimes the bad guys are the good guys and the good guys the bad. Russia in its current incarnation does stand for much of the liberty that America once did, but unfortunately countries can lose their way.
The achievements of South Korea to develop a society conducive to liberty and economic prosperity, is as much a beacon of hope for the rest of the world as Russia is today.
-K
mikael.
“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”
― Sun Tzu, The Art of War
And I was labeled, what, huh, “conspiracy nutt”, and i will only leave this as a last message to the Noveorussians and their freedom fighters, and AM, this is what both sides fear, a people they cant submitt nor controll, taken to realise that its their future its all about, and the fights of survival of a nation.
Of course, neither the ZATO nor the Russians is “extatic” when it comes to loose their gripp on the cojones in the respective puppet goverments, and thats what YOU are witnessing.
I dont care about their names nor what ever else for that matter, its the effect of their cause, the enemys of Noevorussia that is the real deal, anyone that isnt on your side is an enemy, and no matter how bigg the Amry is against you, the enemy Within, is the wurst ones, they are the makers of polaristaions, of diverting atentions from the real issue, freedom for the people.
I have sayed this about the Scots, whom I fully suport, and like the Israel/Palestina issue, we are up against a totaly rotten MSM and a comentary feild packed to the brim with people working for various groups and use the divtion/marginalisation/polaristaions of reality and the effect it may have to hammer everyone that isnt following in their footsteps and drules alng with their perspectives.
I have nothing against either Putin nor the Russian people, but thas not anouf to trust them, as long I can see them I am OK with it, but the present Russian Gov. is in essence the same as any western goverment, its does NOT follow the intress of the people, and the puppets, fueled by greed and shortsighted economyc gains are the traitores within.
The fear pimping of doosdays if you go the fill mounty is hilarious, the ZATO is de facto broke, print money out of thin air, to “boulster” their eCONomy, and they havent stopped the cold war, just reinvented it and started it all over again.
Dont trust anyone else than those that is totaly comitted to the cause, then the oposing armys can be there for years, the fight for years, but soner or later, you suck them dry of foundings and armys/weponds.
And to wrapp it up, there are a lott of people that is suporting your fight, it may not be reflected in the news, not in the comentary feilds, where the scums have discovered the importance of it, I know, like I wrote about the Khazars, a decade before the “science” gott the truth about the “jews”, and who they really are.
Trust your self, trust you comon sence, and trust your own people, and be honest and sinceer, it pays in the long runn, lett everybody know your agenda and the goal of it, and the enemy will never take your land, it may be hard, and belive me, nothing of wurth ever comes easy, ruel nobero uno, its a long hard fight.
I will suport you and your fight as best I can, this is the line between drarkness and light, and like the Palestinians fight, your enemys and those that dont like the future and the conseuencess of the people getting the power over their own land, eventually always exposess them self, the MSMs and/or the politicians.
peace
“Why is the sky, the limit, when there are footprints on the moon”.
unknown
C, an excellent summation of the Korean situation. It is so rare to meet anyone who knows about the hideous savagery of US occupation in southern Korea. They immediately put the Japanese military police and their Korean goons back in power. Which reminds me of the death-squad raised by the FBI to terrorise Native American activists in the 1970s. They called the thugs, the ‘Guardians of the Oglala Nation’, ie GOONs which must have amused Hoover as he squeezed into his little black cocktail frock.
Well, I’ve already dealt with this in the other thread.
More reason than a saint. Not take away one iota.
Important: “Only a separation of business interests from government can offer the chance to build a state with a human face”.
This is a task for everyone, not just for Novorosiya. While the policy remains a business, while not becoming a public service vocation, while revolving doors continue to operate to and from the multinationals, our life will be miserable. Their greed has no end.
To do this, limiting wages and mandates in political positions, possible revocation of mandates if it does not comply with mandated. Transparency in funding and funding ban by private entities.
“Novorossiya shall be! Oligarchs out! Power to the real, common people!”
Let us look at the composition of Donbass refugees now being resettled in the Russian province where I have a business. 7 000 have arrived so far. They consist of 1.7 thousand children, 2 thousand women (some of whom will be Babushkas, at least 300 if every young woman has only one child with her, so less than 1.7k young women) and 3.3 thousand men. So there are almost twice as many men as mothers/families amongst the refugees. These are from the earlier groups in May and June when the Militia still held a lot of territory. Anecdotal reports from my staff and acquaintances who include young women with an eye for these things suggest that most of these men are in their twenties. They are fleeing conscription into the Milita. The subjugation of Ukraine to Russia’s will is a Russian project not a Ukrainian one as the support of the people of the Donbass, other than those thinking about pensions, demonstrates.
They are also complaining about being housed in villages. 80% have been directed out of the city into village locations where there is surplus housing and plenty of casual farm labouring to be done.
“Can someone who knows for sure answer this fundamental question: is it true that Russia can only issue an amount of rubles (currency) proportional with the reserves it has in dollars and euros ?”
You forgot GB Pounds which Russia also holds in significant amounts. Recently it has added a small amount of Yuan. Holding reserves in a particular currency is a statement of confidence that the value of that currency or gold will not deteriorate. Reserve currencies basically carry more confidence with central bankers than gold.
If Russia issues additional roubles without acquiring a matching amount of reserves, the supply of roubles has gone up. Demand hasn’t. So the value of the Rouble falls. This is happening now. Other factors also come into play. The exchange rate, interest rates, the level of employment (full in Russia) and inflation all mix together.
Russian inflation is high about 7.5% and heading towards substantial, about 20%, because of self imposed food sanctions. Foreign policy adventures are a good distraction from problems at home for a while. However, if the Right doesn’t replace Putin soon (they won’t), the Communists will be a real power in the land by the time two years have passed. Only the FSB will stand between them and democratic victory.
Final thought on this thread: my starting point – in a first attempt to post that was lost – was that I deeply resonate with what Mozgovoi is saying. If his is indeed the position of nearly all of Novorussia’s fighers and activists, if you stand united behind this, then I will be cheering you on. If you stumble and make mistakes I will be rooting for you to survive, pick yourselves up and get back in the struggle.
But we – and you – also need Putin to win in Russia’s challenge to the Empire, in the struggle to collapse the Empire through building a global “de-dollarization” alliance before it can launch a world war.
It’s a strategy which leans heavily on information warfare, on the support and strivings of billions of people across the world, but also on exploiting and harnessing divisions and conflicts between and within ruling classes. Decisions and actions taken over the next few months and years will profoundly shape the possibilities for world. Ukraine is at the epicenter.
In my life I have dreamed of and work for an outcome that will end “in a revolutionary reconstitution of society at large,” rather than “in the common ruin of the contending classes.”
As I’m sure we all do, however we frame it.
A follow-up question for Soarintothesky:
If Russia needs to hold dollars, euros and british punds to prove she is a nice country, then how many foreign currencies need US, UK and EU to hold in ordero to prove they are also good countries ?
Or this is just one-way street with only some players in the game being smart-asses (the ones who can keep printing without causing inflation) and the other ones being suckers (the ones which will suffer inflation and economic disaster) ?
That was really the purpose of my question: isn’t the BIS from Basel (Bank of International Settlements) a meaning for the “smart-ass countries” to keep an eye and control of the “sucker countries” ?
BIS was founded in the 1930’s by the banking cartel and it was used secretlu to finance Hilter against Stalin. So, draw your own conclusions ….
@Anonymous
What has ‘nice’ to do with anything. If Russia had converted its oil revenues into Zimbabwe dollars, for example, they would now be worthless. Russia is not doing US/EU/UK/China a deliberate favour by holding their currencies. The interest free loan that arises if other countries hold your currency is a return on your discipline in managing the currency.
“BIS was founded in the 1930’s by the banking cartel and it was used secretlu to finance Hilter against Stalin.” And you probably think the Jews encouraged Hitler so that the state of Israel would be created. Sorry, no one’s in enough control to make anything happen. It’s chaos out there. Take away God and worse rubbish flows in.
Hear Hear!
Very interesting statements-Yandex translation from Cassel.
The highest legislative body DND under the leadership of the Communist Litvinova, officially commented on the talks in Minsk.
The SUPREME COUNCIL of the DONETSK NATIONAL REPUBLIC REGULATION No. 32-1 from g.
About the results of the consultations in Minsk on September 5, 2014, after Hearing and discussing the information of the Chairman of the Council of Ministers of the Donetsk national Republic Avisource about the results of the consultations in Minsk on 5 September 2014, supporting peace initiatives of the President of Russian Federation Vladimir Putin on September 4, 2014, declaring its openness and readiness for dialogue, consultations and negotiations, Reaffirming its commitment to the basic principles and norms of international law, Supreme Council of Donetsk national Republic DECIDES:
Wisam the authorities of Donetsk national Republic and officials in their efforts to conduct consultations and negotiations with the authorities and officials of other States and international organizations to be guided solely by the Declaration of sovereignty of the Donetsk national Republic.
2. All public authorities of Donetsk national Republic and officials consult and negotiate on the basis of international principles: – the principle of the sovereign equality of States, – the settlement of their international disputes by peaceful means in such a way as not to endanger international peace and security, and justice, temperance in their international relations from the threat or use of force, the principle of equal rights and self-determination of peoples.
3. This Decree comes into force from the day of its signing. Chairman Of The Supreme Council Of The Donetsk National Republic Basicview
http://dnr.today/news/postanovlenie-32-1-ot-09-09-2014g/ zinc
PS. Apparently, the criticism of strange items Minsk document from field commanders and the public wasn’t in vain and the deputies decided to recall the provisions of the Declaration on the sovereignty of DND, which frankly at odds with a number of points that was signed in Minsk. Just remind her text, as there are clearly set out the principles on which it was established Donetsk national Republic:
Another ….
THE DECLARATION OF SOVEREIGNTY OF THE DONETSK NATIONAL REPUBLIC.
“The Congress of representatives of the administrative-territorial formations of the Donetsk region, based on the provisions of the Charter of the United Nations and a number of other international instruments, Reaffirming the right of peoples to self-determination,
– expressing the will of the multinational people of Donetsk region
– aware of the historical responsibility for the future of the Donetsk region and its people
– respecting the sovereign rights of all peoples and the will of the peoples in the way of their further development;
– based on the priority of human values, the universal Declaration of human rights and other universally recognized international legal acts;
– aiming to create a national, legal, democratic, sovereign state;
PROCLAIMS:
The creation of the sovereign state of Donetsk national Republic.
State sovereignty Donetsk national Republic provides the rule, independence, unity and indivisibility of the state power of the Republic within its territory, independence and equality in external relations.
1. Citizens of all nationalities Donetsk national Republic are its people, which is the bearer of sovereignty and the source of state power. The sovereignty of the people is implemented on the basis of the Constitution of the Donetsk national Republic, both directly and through elected representative bodies.
State power in the Republic is based on the principle of its division into legislative, Executive and judicial.
On behalf of the people of Donetsk national Republic can be exclusively the Supreme Council of the Republic.
The most important public issues related to the development of the Republic and its relations with other States, submitted to a referendum or referendum.
2. The territory of the Republic may not be altered without the consent of its citizens.
The Supreme Council of the Republic shall decide all questions of an administrative-territorial unit.
3. The Republic guarantees equal rights and freedoms for all its residents, citizens, irrespective of their nationality, social origin, political belief, religion.
4. The people of Donetsk national Republic has the exclusive right of ownership of land, its subsoil, the air space, water and other natural resources located within the territory of the Republic.
Economic and scientific-technical potential, created on the territory of the Republic, is the property of the material basis of sovereignty and is used in the interests of its citizens.
Enterprises, institutions, organizations and facilities of other States, international organizations may be located on the territory of Donetsk national Republic and to use its natural resources only in accordance with the Constitution and laws Respublikasi provides the conditions for the free development and protection of the constitutional recognized forms of property, which exclude the assignment of the results of someone’s labor, when the priority value of collective forms;
Last Part-DND Declaration
5. Republic determines their economic status, conducts financial, credit and investment policies, forms its state budget, establishes the procedure for formation and use of monetary and other funds.
6. Republic independently determines the order of nature protection on its territory and use of natural resources, monitors environmental conditions.
The Republic has the right to ban the construction to cease operation of all enterprises, institutions and organizations, as well as other objects that threaten environmental security.
7. The independent Republic in matters of science, education, cultural and spiritual development. Citizens of all nationalities living on the territory of the Republic are guaranteed the right to free national-cultural development, use and promotion of national languages.
This Declaration is valid from the moment of acceptance and is the basis for the development of the Constitution of the Donetsk national Republic, participation in the preparation and conclusion of contracts with other republics and States”
http://rusmir.in.ua/pol/5305-crochnopolnyy-tekst-dokumentov-prinyatyh-doneckoy-narodnoy-respublikoy.html – zinc
PS. Accordingly, from the point of view of domestic laws DND, Parliament effectively closes the door to possible attempts at negotiation by organicity the territory of our current territories occupied by the army of Novorossiya. As well as trying to negotiate unequal and non-sovereign relations with Ukraine, which goes against the Declaration of sovereignty.