Over the past couple of hours it was it was interesting to observe the reactions to the Russian decision to be read to use military force in the Ukraine. Let’s take them one by one
Obama and Kerry: frankly, I did not expect much, by I still was baffled by how out of touch the White House is with the real world. To deter Putin from using armed force, the White House decided to threaten him boycott the next G8 summit in Russia. Boo hoo!! I am sure that Putin is now terrified. Not. Listening to the Idiot in Chief and his Secretary of State I truly marveled that this still threw the full political weight and credibility of the USA behind a government which even Iatseniuk himself called a “kamikaze government’. Anybody with an IQ at or above room temperature understands that this so called “Ukrainian government” is bound to fail if only because it literally has no money to do *anything*. And yet, the boneheads in Washington are totally backing this quasi-dead regime.
The Ukrainian military: I am sure that you have heard that the Ukrainian military is now on maximal alert and is read to repel any Russian aggression. Guys, this is laughable. There IS NO UKRAINIAN MILITARY. There is a lot of old hardware lying around, there are a number of units with basically zero training and there are a few units of higher combat readiness. Do you know what that list is called in military terms? It’s called *TARGETS*. I also suspect that if the western politicians and a few Ukie crackpots speak about the Ukrainian armed forces, the officers there, and even the soldiers, fully realize that they are just targets. Hence the wise decision of the flagship of the Ukrainian Navy, the Hetman Sahaidachny frigate, to quickly switch sides even before getting back home (it is in eastern the Mediterranean according to the latest reports). I suppose you all know that the notion of the Ukies developing their own nuclear weapons is laughable, so I will not bother dwelling on it now.
Yulia and Klichko: As I suspected from her appearance on the Maidan, Yulia clearly lost it and her latest statement about the crisis just proves to me that she is “gone fishing”. In contrast, however, and to be great surprise, it was Klichko who came out with the sanest proposal: he wants to create a special commission in Kiev tasked with negotiating a peaceful resolution of the current crisis between Kiev and Moscow. Unlike Yulia’s hysterical nonsense, Kichko’s statement contained no grandstanding or lyrical appeals. It was all business-like and pragmatic. Well, who knows, maybe the man can get something done since I am quite sure that as long as the Ukies do not use force in the east or south the Russians will stay on high alert, but on their side of the border.
That’s it for this short update. Later today I hope to have the time to post a somewhat more analytical look at the recent developments.
Cheers,
The Saker
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Omidyar funded the rebels http://pando.com/2014/02/28/pierre-omidyar-co-funded-ukraine-revolution-groups-with-us-government-documents-show/
Seems like the Ukrainian military isn’t too keen on fighting Russians either:
http://rt.com/news/ukraine-military-russia-resign-437/
so, the Western puppets in Kiev have no money, no military, no popular support in over than half the country, just a handful of Nazi scum and Euro and US conmen waving idle threats.
Frpm MoA:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V68srzQs7PQ#t=0
S-400´s passing through the border.
howdy! although broadcast dated for our purposes and i don’t agree
w/ tarpley on all things,he gives an interesting critique of yanuk’s
presidency…tarpley.net-world-
crisis-radio
Well, Klitchko being the saner voice in the choir is hardly that surprising, since he is in cahoots with the Germans, and circles in the Vaterland are getting second thoughts in these days: http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_03_02/German-media-making-U-turn-on-Ukrainian-tug-o-war-6594/
And that is hardly surprising, since this crisis not only is about denying Russia access to Ukraine, but to drive a wedge between Russia and Germany, thus preventing a truly EuroAsian axis and thus continuing (or trying to continue) US hegemony. As Immanuel Wallerstien describes it: http://www.iwallerstein.com/geopolitics-ukraines-schism/
Besides I wrote an email to you yesterday about some gossip coming out from a festive get-together on the Canadian Kiev-embassy Friday evening, where I described that Poland, Turkey, Canada and the Baltic states had proposed that NATO established a no-fly-zone over the Crimea. Apart from the crazy implication that western governments could in earnest suggest something that would immediately lead to war with Russia (which would be lost), and the ludicruous aspect af the Baltic States that have no airforce -it is the Danish airforce that patrols the Baltic skies -propose a no fly zone (!) the interesting aspect is the apparent involvement of Turkey in such hawkishness. it lends some credence to your suggestion that Russia started its infiltration of the Crimea to stop a plane from Turkey. Besides the Maidan was apparently also inflitrated by mercenaries from Turkey:http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_03_02/Dozens-of-foreigners-attended-Euromaidan-protests-Russian-participant-6520/
Could it have something to do about the coming Nagorno-Karabakh-war rerun that could pitch Russia against Turkey?
Greatest regards,
/Hagen
Ukrainian Navy Commander says he swore allegiance to people of Crimea
http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_03_02/Ukrainian-Navy-Commander-says-he-swore-allegiance-to-people-of-Crimea-1107/
“I, Denis Berezovsky, swear allegiance to the people of Crimea and undertake to protect them, as required by statute,” Berezovsky said at a press conference in Sevastopol.”
Israel’s stooges in Kiev had only just appointed the man to head the Ukrainian navy yesterday, to replace another who apparently was disloyal to Israel. :D
I suspect the Israeli/American/EU war hysteria is to try and get NATO storm troopers “officially” inside Ukraine quick, before their “house of cards” puppet regime there encounters a light breeze and implodes from it’s own unpopularity and incompetence. The right sector type nazi groups are probably all they got among the Ukrainian population who can be relied upon to follow their diktat, and even those apparently need foreign mercs and zionazi leadership in order to stay coherent enough to follow orders.
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Re G8 – I really do not understand this G8 fetish. If Russia has capabilities and can influence events, its voice will be heard, one way or another. Does Obama think he is a pope of G, excomunicating a sinner, or what?
Re Ukrainian military – Russia works under a serious handicap – it cannot afford heavy casualties among civilians. So far it shows commendable finesse.
Yatsenuk&Co would love to get a bloody shirt to wave (once more).
The U.S. has Installed a Neo-Nazi Government in Ukraine
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-u-s-has-installed-a-neo-nazi-government-in-ukraine/5371554
A Nazi Coup in Ukraine: The US Helped Defeat Nazism in World War II. Obama Helped Bring it Back
http://www.globalresearch.ca/a-nazi-coup-in-ukraine-the-us-helped-defeat-nazism-in-world-war-ii-obama-helped-bring-it-back/5371549
Partly off-topic :-)
I don’t get much of any Slavic language, but my impression is that at least some of the Tatars distance themselves clearly from the Bandera fascists:
Почему крымские татары против бандеровского режима
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4QREY4la4w
May-be someone can correct me if I got it all wrong.
The “Putin ordered, ruthless Russian invasion of the Ukraine”:
Tea, sandwiches, music, photos with self-defense forces mark peaceful Sunday in Simferopol
http://rt.com/news/ukraine-crimea-photos-tweets-434/
I can see why it is imperative to get NATO storm troopers in there immediately to rescue those poor, brutilised people. Just look at the suffering and the anguish on their faces.
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Yatsenyuk making the Nazi salute:
https://twitter.com/ZeroCoolGR/status/440174634739449856/photo/1
Does the West intend to throw Ukraine under the bus in an attempt to isolate Russia and frustrate its opposition in the UN to western initiatives in Syria and elsewhere? Can’t see what the next move is for either side…
Did the US engage in one coup to many?
Before the Ukrainian revolution, Assistant Secretary of State Victory Newland said on a leaked telephone call: “Yats the guy” when describing the next prime minister of the Ukraine. Who is the prime minister now? Yikes its Yats!
http://www.popularresistance.org/ukraine-one-regime-change-too-many/
Saker,
Klitschko’s new-found sense is undoubtedly the mirror image of a new-found sense appearing suddenly in the German media…
http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_03_02/German-media-making-U-turn-on-Ukrainian-tug-o-war-6594/
Germany does not need chaos in the Ukraine, and they’re surely mighty pissed with the “F*&k the EU” comments followed by the US’ unleashing their mad dog fascists and blowing up their hard won Kiev Agreement.
If one looks at Germany’s role in Eurasian development – the international flow of real goods & capital, and the agreements that are binding Eurasia in a matrix of transport corridors, currency swaps, and trade/barter systems – it is apparent that Germany has been quietly looking East for its future.
Germany’s reticence in shouldering the EU’s sclerotic finances is obvious, and perhaps the US/EU are as concerned about losing Germany as they are about poking the Russian bear.
Erebus
@Monica Perez It looks to me at this point that Snowden may have been effectively silenced. Greenwald has been vehemently opposed to Obama since the primaries, but openly acknowledged his strong support of Bibi on his most recent visit to Israel. So he may have been co-opted a bit by Omidyar, or not. But then just look at his other partners — the Guardian, the NYT, the Washington Post??? uh, with friends like that… Now I’m probably too naive for the rest of this but I honestly don’t think Snowden — whom I support as a whistleblower — really has, or wants to, give his material to Russia. So We The People (I know, I know, an utterly archaic term) lose yet again.
Hi Dears,
maybe I’m getting off topic…
I’ve found an article about a cyber attack hitting US/Pentagon systems on the ‘IRIB – Iranian International Broadcasting’.
The article refers to gdata.de, a major German cyber security company.
Interestingly it has been posted in French only and the virus name is the same used for the stuxnet cyberattack on the German-made centrifuges at the Iranian Natanz nuclear facilities in 2009/2010.
“Oroborus/Ouroborus” is an ancient symbol depicting a serpent or dragon eating its own tail.
Is this a sort of subtle retaliation, an interconnected warming or just a sort of joke?
Warm Regards
http://french.irib.ir/info/international/item/316532-cyberattaque-russe-contre-les-usa
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuxnet
http://www.blueheronblast.com/2010/09/stuntex-worm-ouroboros.html
Saker, there are persistent rumors that when Ukraine was denuclearized in 1994, the Ukrainians kept back some nuclear weapons (presumably smaller stuff). This is said to be well-known in the West.
Clearly, The Boxer is listening to his German protectors, who disagree with the US strategy of confrontation with The Bear. Read wht Rainer Rupp wrote: http://tlaxcala-int.org/article.asp?reference=11582 He should know, since he was a GDR-agent inside the NATO during 20 years
Robert Parry’s article about internal struggle Obama-Neocon.
– Neocon (not Obama) did the coup in Ukraine:
http://consortiumnews.com/2014/03/02/what-neocons-want-from-ukraine-crisis/
Ciao
“Nazis serve as useful idiots to neocons but think that some day they will be able to turn things around. Neocons, in their typical manner, are not really concerned.”
Let’s see; you think that the Neocons = (a group of) Jews have teamed up with Neonazis to conduct a coup in the Ukraine.
And that The Neocons = Jews are quite happy working with the Neonazis because the Jews will get most of the positions of power in the new (illegitimate) government and that they will at a later time get rid of the Neonazis.
Now Yanukovych is a also a Jew.
So, one has that the Neocons = (a group of) Jews have teamed up with Neonazis to conduct a coup in the Ukraine against (another group of) Jews.
There is something very wrong with this whole story, don’t you think?
By the way, it seems that the photos of Vitali Klitschko at the Kiev Chanukah party, are originally from this Jewish site;
http://collive.com/show_news.rtx?id=23224 or
Thanks very much for the link to Robert Parry’s articles. Interesting and plausible explanation – but disturbing as well… as infighting using lighted matches near the gasoline depot could lead to unintended escalation.
@Anonymous 18:01 Parry may be right about Obama and his idiotic Cabinet of Rivals, or whatever he called it. But he’s WAAY off base if he thinks Obama is the least bit capable of even whispering the truth to any “authority” figure (i.e., anyone not a blogger distinctly to his Left). He’s been eager-to-please his whole life, which is a big part of how he got where he is. Another big part, sadly, is his utter indifference to 99.99999% of everyone and everything living on this planet. We worked really hard to elect him too — the first time, though I will say my husband thought he was a lying corporate tool alread in bed with the Banksters. (Me, I just thought I’d heard echoes of MLK in his Iowa speech, and couldn’t bear the thought of McCain or, God forbid, Palin.)
> new-found sense appearing suddenly in the German media…
that article is quite interesting, but overly optimistic. From time to time, I check the German establishment press, and it doesn’t matter if they are (considered) leaning to the left (Spiegel, taz, Sueddeutsche) or even more so the right (FAZ), they all agree on the important issues:
* Yatzenyuk is the legitimate person in power in the Ukraine (no talk of a coup in Kiev)
* in the south and east, pro-Russian forces arrogate powers to them in coups, supported by Russia
* Putin takes what he wants
* Putin plays a dangerous game
* West still open to dialog, “still thinks it possible to avert war”
If you can read German, you will easily verify this:
faz.net
sueddeutsche.de
taz.de
spiegel.de
In other words, that voice of russia article is either wildly optimistc and prophetic, or plainly wrong. Maybe there was one segment in the WDR looking into the specifics of the Ukraine, but you’d have to search for it in the heap of russophobia.
Honk
THE WHITE HOUSE
Office of the Press Secretary
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
March 2, 2014
Readout of the President’s Calls with Prime Minister Cameron, President Komorowski, and Chancellor Merkel
President Obama spoke separately this afternoon with Prime Minister Cameron of the United Kingdom, President Komorowski of Poland, and Chancellor Merkel of Germany. The leaders expressed their grave concern over Russia’s clear violation of Ukrainian sovereignty and territorial integrity, which is a breach of international law and a threat to international peace and security. The leaders stressed that dialogue between Ukraine and Russia should start immediately, with international facilitation as appropriate.
The leaders affirmed the importance of unity within the international community in support of international law and their support for the Government of Ukraine, including its territorial integrity and its efforts to move forward with elections in May so that the Ukrainian people can continue to determine their own future in this historic hour. The leaders also pledged to work together on a package of multilateral and bilateral financial assistance to help Ukraine as it pursues urgently needed reforms to stabilize its economy. The leaders agreed to continue to coordinate closely, including bilaterally, and through appropriate international organizations.
The President reaffirmed the United States’ longstanding and continuing commitment to security and democracy in Eastern Europe.
@Honk,
“that voice of russia article is either wildly optimistc and prophetic, or plainly wrong”
Thanks for that clarification. The fog of war…
Erebus
@ Hagen,
“this crisis not only is about denying Russia access to Ukraine, but to drive a wedge between Russia and Germany, thus preventing a truly EuroAsian axis and thus continuing (or trying to continue) US hegemony”.
It makes sense. Germany knows that her Lebensraum is Russia. It always knew and even a cursory glance at the history of Russo-German relations shows that they have not always been confrontational. The so-called Will of Peter the Great, albeit a fake, urge his successors to always maintain good relations with Germany and conclude dynastic alliances with reigning German houses (the Romanovs were more German than Russians!). As it is known the tsarist adminstration and army were full of Germans.
Economically Germania and Russia were complementary and remain so.
It was Britain’s policy to draw a wedge between these two powers which represented a dire danger to its hegemony. That led to WWI. As the British historian J.W. Wheeler-Bennett put it in a valuable, but largely forgotten book “Brest-Litovsk. The forgotten peace. March 1918”: ‘An industrialized Russia exploited by the organizing genius of Germany conjures up a vision which no Western European can comtemplate with equanimity’. He was referring to the possibility of a German conquest of Russia, but the situation is not changed if their relations would be cooperative instead of confrontational.
The idea that Germany or Western Europe for that matter, would apply “sanctions” to Russia in support for Nazis is sheer lunacy. As the one that EU would embrace an openly “fascist” state.
WizOz
@Anon 18:37
The sheer hysterical defence of the “revolutionaries” by the Neocons shows that it must be something “good for the Jews” at stake!
WizOz
“..No one expects the world’s only superpower to behave this irrationally, to hop-scotch across the planet creating one failed state after another, fomenting revolt, breeding hatred, and spreading misery wherever it goes. At present, the Obama team is operating at full-throttle trying to topple regimes in Syria, Venezuela, Ukraine, and god-knows where else. At the same time, failed operations in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya have left all three countries in dire straights, ruled by regional warlords and armed militias. Medvedev has every right to be concerned.
Who wouldn’t be? The US has gone off the rails, stark raving mad. The architecture for global security has collapsed while the basic principals of international law have been jettisoned. The rampaging US juggernaut lurches from one violent confrontation to the next without rhyme or reason, destroying everything in its path, forcing millions to flee their own countries, and pushing the world closer to the abyss. Isn’t that reason enough to be concerned?
Now Obama has thrown-in with the Nazis. It’s just the icing on the cake.” in The Coup in Ukraine Obama’s Dumbest Plan Yet”
by MIKE WHITNEY
It resume very well the greatest danger that Humankind is facing today.
@Old auntie, yes, he’s saying in that video that those people were in power for 4-5 years and did nothing, and now that things were just beginning to stabilize a bit, they take over again, because they know that they can’t win democratically.
That’s a summary of what he says.
“The sheer hysterical defence of the “revolutionaries” by the Neocons shows that it must be something “good for the Jews” at stake!”
“So, one has that the Neocons = (a group of) Jews have teamed up with Neonazis to conduct a coup in the Ukraine against (another group of) Jews.”
Some are saying that the Neonazis are actually a “false flag” group (of Jews?).
They say that Hitler was the same. In this case, that he was actually a Jew.
The “evidence” they provide is quite interesting;
1) Hitler ordered the tanks to stop for 3 days near Dunkirk when only a short distance away. This allowed the entire British army and part of the French army to escape to Britain.
2) Hitler refused to take Gibraltar and turn the Mediterranean into a “German lake”. There was nothing to stop the Germans from driving through Spain (their ally) and doing the job.
3) Hitler declared war on the United States.
4) Hitler refused to allow the tens of thousands of tons of weaponized nerve gas that Germans had produced (at Dyhernfurth an der Oder) to be used.
Zion and Nazi go back a long way subce they flew their flag in the Reich.
“whazzo said…
Frpm MoA:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V68srzQs7PQ#t=0
S-400´s passing through the border.
02 March, 2014 11:55″
I looked over at MoA and the last few blog posts there and couldn’t find where that video was posted.
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My predictions (March 1, 2014):
Arseniy #Yatsenyuk (“Yats”) will be the first one to flee Kiev. He will be rewarded with a nice teaching job at the Harvard University, the home of the Holodomor hoax.
Both Dmitro Yarosh and Andriy Parubiy will have their brains blasted out with head shots.
Dmitro #Yarosh will be eliminated by Russian Spetsnaz with a Dragunov sniper rifle from 900 meters.
Andriy #Parubiy will be executed for treason by a fellow Nazi. The weapon of choice will be a Luger P08 pistol from the 1942 production run.
Oleh #Tyahnybok will get the Ambassadorial Benghazi treatment – butt-raped by an angry mob. He might survive.
Yulia #Tymoshenko will become president of #Rumpistan. She will try to promote good economic relations with Russia.
Vitali #Klitschko will become best friends with Nikolai Valuev. They will go on a World Tour together, promoting peace, boxing, and friendship between nations.
#Novorossiya will become a part of the Eurasian Union. Initially it will call itself “Ukraine” and claim legal succession from the failed state by the same name. It will take responsibility for Ukraine’s debt to Russia. The capital city will be moved to Kharkov.
#Transnistria will become a part of Novorossiya.
The Crimea will become an autonomous republic within the Russian Federation.
#Zakarpattia Oblast in the west will become an integral part of the Russian Federation, ruled directly from Moscow. It will however not join the Russian economic area or customs union, but receive a special status in the European Economic Area, with free movement of people and capital. It will most likely adopt the Euro.
Sumy Oblast may join Russia directly.
Rumpistan will have to clean up its own mess, with or without its Nazis. In the end, no one may want Banderastan. The US may adopt is as an al-Qaeda training base.
My predictions (March 1, 2014):
Arseniy #Yatsenyuk (“Yats”) will be the first one to flee Kiev. He will be rewarded with a nice teaching job at the Harvard University, the home of the Holodomor hoax.
Both Dmitro Yarosh and Andriy Parubiy will have their brains blasted out with head shots.
Dmitro #Yarosh will be eliminated by Russian Spetsnaz with a Dragunov sniper rifle from 900 meters.
Andriy #Parubiy will be executed for treason by a fellow Nazi. The weapon of choice will be a Luger P08 pistol from the 1942 production run.
Oleh #Tyahnybok will get the Ambassadorial Benghazi treatment – butt-raped by an angry mob. He might survive.
Yulia #Tymoshenko will become president of #Rumpistan. She will try to promote good economic relations with Russia.
Vitali #Klitschko will become best friends with Nikolai Valuev. They will go on a World Tour together, promoting peace, boxing, and friendship between nations.
#Novorossiya will become a part of the Eurasian Union. Initially it will call itself “Ukraine” and claim legal succession from the failed state by the same name. It will take responsibility for Ukraine’s debt to Russia. The capital city will be moved to Kharkov.
#Transnistria will become a part of Novorossiya.
The Crimea will become an autonomous republic within the Russian Federation.
#Zakarpattia Oblast in the west will become an integral part of the Russian Federation, ruled directly from Moscow. It will however not join the Russian economic area or customs union, but receive a special status in the European Economic Area, with free movement of people and capital. It will most likely adopt the Euro.
Sumy Oblast may join Russia directly.
Rumpistan will have to clean up its own mess, with or without its Nazis. In the end, no one may want Banderastan. The US may adopt is as an al-Qaeda training base.
Your comment on the Ukrainian military is far too optimistic. This was BEFORE the putsch. The military decided to stay out of the political conflict. I do not know why they would change their minds now. Many, if not all have already defected to the loyalist / Russian side. The best part of the security apparatus was the Berkut. They have now been disbanded. Most may already be on Russia’s payroll.
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Why is the Kiev junta calling for military mobilization, i.e. calling in the reservists? Do they not have an army already? Evidently not.
If the coup had been successful, then it would be time to stop the anarchy and restore law and order. Normally, by this time you would see tanks and troops all over the capital. So far I have not seen any organized professional security on the putschist side. (Forgot. This is not a coup, this is a revolution!)
So far this is not a military conflict, but a non-violent one à la Gene Sharp. (The Crimea is a separate case, but is already irrevocably lost.) There is no immediate military threat on Ukraine; Russia is extremely reluctant to interfere or invade. Control of the standing army should be sufficient for all immediate needs.
The conclusions one must draw:
1) The junta intends to violently suppress any separatism or non-compliance.
2) The junta has no control of the Ukrainian military (apart from their web servers maybe).
Equating Zionists with Jews is probably the most fundamental misconception affecting western minds.
Also take note that etimologicaly related conceptions such as “anti-semite” are fully integrated in this manipulation.
This dangerous simplification/fallacy facilitates mistaking the political agenda sphere over and in the guise of the religious culture.
I would call every reader to make a deep effort in distinguishing these and related terms. Given this effort made one’s observation and interpretation of reality will drastically enrich itself.
Hundreds arrested at Keystone XL White House sit-in protest
http://rt.com/usa/washington-keystone-protests-arrests-488/
“Several hundred people have been arrested during a peaceful protest in Washington DC after they strapped themselves to the White House fence and laid out their demands on Pennsylvania Avenue in protest against the proposed Keystone XL oil pipeline….”
Those were not kosher protestors. They didn’t use sniper rifles to kill fellow protestors or goosestep around ranting about cultural and racial “purity”. People have to realise that if one is going to protest something in Israel’s American colony, one has to protest the Israeli-American way. Like kosher protestors did on the Kiev maidenhead square against the 14th incarnation of Hitler, or Stalin, depending on the projected marks…er, audience.
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Tymoshenko dismisses prospects of Russian-Ukrainian talks as hopeless
http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_03_03/Tymoshenko-dismisses-prospects-of-Russian-Ukrainian-talks-as-hopeless-5105/
“Former Ukrainian Prime Minister and leader of the Batkivshchyna party Yulia Tymoshenko sees no point in talks between Russia and Ukraine. This was published on the Batkivshchyna website on 2 March.
According to Tymoshenko, talks between the two countries make no sense because Russia’s main aim is to achieve Ukraine’s full capitulation.
In the ex-prime minister’s opinion, the reason for Russia’s military aggression is that, as a result of the European revolution, Ukraine has won freedom and independence from Yanukovych’s regime subordinated to Russia. In Tymoshenko’s words, the Russian authorities want to annex Ukraine by force of arms, carry out a coup d’etat in the country and return the dictatorship.”
So I guess that means psycho-сука wont be going to Russia for negotiations as previously announced.
Lucky Russians. :) Poor Ukrainians, they will have to wait until her daughter realises the obvious, and has “mother” straitjacketed and committed to some expensive facility in the USA, UK, Canada or Israel.
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Re: Anonymous said…> new-found sense appearing suddenly in the German media…
The German MSM are in the hands of four or five great publishing companies, they were howling against Russia since before Sotchi started. One of the leading men in DIE ZEIT is Josef Joffe, one can imagine what that means. However, I have also the feeling that they are backpedelling – a very difficult thing, they have to do a 3 turn double loop jump. I think they are trying to blame all the mess on Putin, while they know that in the end they will have to somehow land on thin ice. When the time comes that they cannot hide their defeat any longer, Ukraine will simply disappear from the headlines. BTW: Those Germans who don’t like Merkel are joking that she is the best performer of the double loop jump, look at all her U-turns in recent years. Look at what the government speaker said (it’s only in German and I don’t want to translate it in order not to twist the meaning by mistake but I think you can catch the main wods):
Steffen Seibert ✔ @RegSprecher
…Putin akzeptiert Vorschlag der Kanzlerin, “fact finding mission” sowie Kontaktgruppe einzurichten, um politischen Dialog zu beginnen. (3)
Steffen Seibert ✔ @RegSprecher
…Kanzlerin #Merkel forderte Präs. Putin erneut auf, die territoriale Integrität der Ukraine zu respektieren… (2)
Anonymous 18:37. “working with”? “teamed up”? Why not throw their favourite insult back at them? “Neocons = (a group of) Jews are appeasing Neonazis.” Bibi is appeasing Neonazis. Cameron and Kerry are appeasing Neonazis. They always try to discredit diplomacy with the analogy of appeasement. Yet here they are, face to face with real live 1938-style Nazis for the first time, and they fold completely, giving the Nazis everything they want.
@One of the leading men in DIE ZEIT is Josef Joffe, one can imagine what that means…
Funny, innit? Adolf Joffe was the first Soviet Ambassador and Bolshevik agent to Berlin in 1918 where he prepared the ground for the revolution which overthrew the Kaiser and led to the demise of Germany. Born in Simferopol, a friend and loyal supporter of Trotsky.
WizOz
Re: nuclear
Here is a great article on the specific threads of nuclear terrorism and extortion in the Ukraine, since the imbeciles in power disbanded Berkut:
http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2014/03/03/national-revolution-nuclear-sites-safety-wholl-disarm-ukrainian-arms-toting-gunslingers.html
Honk
Here just one recent example of German media craftsmanship, it’s the appetizer of an article entitled “Fomenting war on Facebook”:
> If you want to know what the Russian president Putin is about to do, just listen to his prime minister. Dimitri Medvedev skillfully uses social media, to distribute Putin’s messages to the people.
Further proof that Vlad “Saddam Benito Adolf Muamar Bashar Hugo Joseph” Putin is an evil dictator.
(Source: http://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/ausland/europa/dmitrij-medwedjew-krieg-schueren-auf-facebook-12829281.html)
Honk
Saker, this article explains some of the foreign policy infighting in the Obama admin. It also argues that Obama and Putin are on friendly terms and that much of Obama’s apparent incompetence may be him playing sides off one another.
http://consortiumnews.com/2014/03/02/what-neocons-want-from-ukraine-crisis/
This is an expanded report on NATO troops or other third party shooting both sides in the square.
http://aangirfan.blogspot.it/2014/03/nato-troops-shot-both-sides-in-ukraine.html
“Amid tensions over Japan’s historical war crimes, Chinese President Xi Jinping had wanted Chancellor Angela Merkel to show him World War II memorials during his upcoming visit to Berlin. Germany, however, wants no part of Beijing’s propaganda offensive.
China, Reuters reported in February, wants Japan to be more like Germany — specifically, it wants Tokyo to do more to acknowledge the suffering Japan inflicted on China during World War II. Chinese President Xi Jinping wanted to underline that desire during his upcoming March visit to Berlin by taking in some of the myriad war memorials which dot the German capital.
Berlin, though, wants no part of the East Asian propaganda war. SPIEGEL has learned that a visit to the Memorial to the Murdered Jews of Europe — Berlin’s largest Holocaust memorial — requested by Beijing will not be part of the itinerary of Xi’s trip at the end of March. German Chancellor Angela Merkel has also declined to accompany Xi to the Memorial to the Victims of Fascism and Militarism, a smaller monument across from Humboldt University known as the Neue Wache.” in Spiegel
Hehe, does this mean that the germans have also double standard? Holocaust is good for herrenvolk but no for commies?
Would like to know what the jews would say about this.
Greetings from Siberia, by virtue of its Karrieretest language use Google translator, so do not judge strictly)
Sam was born in Ukraine, right now I live in Siberia. What is written in the article is true. The crisis in Ukraine there is a coup, with the complicity of NATO countries, particularly the United States and Germany, which was preparing for 10 years. I’ll tell you how it actually is. It all started with this supposedly peaceful rallies, with a small number of students who pay a little money for it, such as people started this revolution, especially for a cause, the overthrow of Aligarh. But not everything is so simple, they were first experienced fighters as instructors (NATO), they were organized,physically strong, armed men with combat training with БЕРКУТ. Everyone had their roles, some protected, carried out a second wounded. third throw stones, they were real soldiers started to fight for the coup. They led the crowd to start were the usual shouts, curses, requirements, with little or no violence.In the second phase, started the violence, so conceived, it is necessary also to justify his actions, began to throw stones golden eagle, since the protesters were armed as well as the “Berkut” shields and helmets, masks, batons. disperse them was difficult and hard. But the government has not issued an order to use weapons against the demonstrators, and was.Adventure (NATO) gave the team in complete chaos, demonstrators began to prepare Molotov cocktails, bombs, grenades, use air guns. They mutilated “Berkut” tortured (was vidio) where the employee gouged eyes, awl, and thrown into a ditch dead (is not fascism?) burned poor “Berkut” alive… burned poor “Berkut” alive(is not fascism?), here’s a video, then a note was not from the demonstrators in “BBERKUTA” military weapons ”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhmAF_PkLNM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7k0MjODEQY
And the government still does not give orders to take up arms and shoot these freaks. And for fighters (NATO) is bad, no victims, no possibility coup. And then the fun begins … pottyagivayutsya natsianalisty (Bendera, fascists) You ask why? Let’s start with the fact that they hate Russian as NATO, they love ubivati torture. Well, they have a special role, namely the massacres. That they shot their own maydanovtsev in the back, they also killed “Berkut” below vidio, it should explain everything, especially seen as a shot in the back and fall into a tree, people are starting to look nazat like so there own? The following quote 2 videos in one sniper shot, the second one of the leaders of the Nazi leader …
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5dc_1393953567
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-mLTUyIj1M
Is that the way should have a conversation with the leader of the press … Do you think that going without a camera … It’s a conversation with the Ukrainian Ukrainian, and was in his place Russian Ukrainian it would certainly dead by media convey that there were 100 victims, in fact there are already thousands, but it will show you who I lived Zhytomyr region, and as a Russian man, probably would be dead …
After the Nazis looted military barracks, and took possession of military weapons and guns in the full amount of “Berkut” gave the green light for the use because they started to shoot …
Further, as we know Yanukovych fled the Nazis seized power (along with NATO) people like Klitschko almost a resident of Germany, supported by the United States, a faithful follower of Bandera Dmitry Jaros, Turchinova whose house more than Yanukovych. The first laws were anti-Russian, as well as resolvable Nazism .
Bandera and fascists, in a voice that shouted cut out all Russian living in the Ukraine. But since the government seized only in Kiev and Lviv. Crimea, Kharkiv, and many other cities have simply refused to accept the power of the Nazis. They have created a self-defense units, and did not let the Nazis. A Russian course prigrazilo war, when it is known that f want to cut Russian to population.
Although we did not attack the Ukraine, the Nazis restrain the ardor began to take economic laws, stopped shouting Nazi shouting, talking on cultural topics. But it’s all a mask, as things settle down, only to start the genocide Russian . Intercepted telephone conversation, Catherine Ashton. Where black and white shot is said that the new government in the maidan. Only an idiot would not understand. A fact that is mentioned in a conversation that these bitches go to the families of deputies, “Berkut” and arrange of terror, tortured, threatened that enough???
And that is the Olga, they mention that “Bogomolets”, Olga Vadymivna. Ukrainian doctor, social activist, she was offered the post of minister. She refused to be in the Nazi government. You ask why she refused, saying that the matter? Because her relatives and just kill . Shall not it obvious?
Now ask yourself, could be so simple to organize people to resist the police, intelligence services, without interference from outside? What do you think how much it costs comprise over 3 months eleven-million people? Clothe (Clothes, shields, masks, bits, clubs) feed every day hot meals, organize closets, with the export of shit? It’s millions of dollars.
Does Russia need a genocide of their own brothers, Ukraine? Perhaps this is we wanted to build a missile defense Ukraine’s borders, perhaps it we want to kill and osslablyat Slavonic people …
What you showed media, occupation of Crimea Russia . is shit … Here it okupatsiya . Bloodbath, children under 18 not to watch.
http://ekabu.ru/warfare/80963-rossiyskie-soldaty-v-krymu.html
People prayed to protect them from the Nazis, look at the faces of the people you see mb they fear, pain and humiliation? No, they came to protect the Russian people from the Nazis.And here OCCUPIERS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sU2qpxsgUo
In the portrait, Stepan Bandera, you can drive in Wikipedia, read who it is …
I have long followed the information war, I know that you shit your media show. But there are sites where they write pawdite, so you have the opportunity to observe the true picture. I offer apologies for more translation errors. Thank you.
Assistant Secretary of State Victory Newland said on a leaked telephone call: “Yats the guy” when describing the next prime minister of the Ukraine