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I just saw this article from vice news: https://news.vice.com/article/it-is-a-government-crime-the-coffins-of-russias-ghost-soldiers-in-ukraine-are-coming-home
Perhaps the Saker can comment on it’s authenticity ?
IF there are Russian soldiers in Ukraine, obviously it can’t be admitted openly; there’s a limit to how many sanctions Russia can handle.
Stories like this come up every month or so. Usually, like this one, they quote the Committee of Soldiers’ Mothers, a George Soros backed NGO which seems to exist for the purpose of trying to embarrass the government on this sort of business. That’s not to say there may not be some truth in what they say. They NEVER SHOW the supposedly strange death certificates and other documents that they quote from.
Still, the stories tend to exaggerate and not add up.
His body was covered in dirt, which had caked under his fingernails. A fatal blast wound to Sergei’s heart was hidden beneath a fresh military uniform intended for a man twice his size. A pair of flimsy rubber flip-flops dangled from his feet.
How does this add up? He is covered in dirt (under his original uniform?) they re-dressed him (without washing?) if meant to remain a sealed coffin why dress at all? and they put flip-flops on his feet (why put ANY footwear on a dead body???) but he’s been 5 days dead, in late summer, and they don’t mention a smell among all the “horrors”?? but in those 5 days they’ve been frantically trying to find out how he died? so they were NOTIFIED of the death by RUSSIA same day it happened on a battlefield in Ukraine?
Odd, also, that the story mentions hospitals crammed with wounded soldiers, but we never see one about a soldier coming home minus a leg…are they all terrorised into silence??
So, I’d say there’s something in the idea of Russian soldiers taking part but these stories don’t do much to prove it.
it does seems like blatant Western propaganda. it would be more believable without all the details so clearly intended to cast the Russians/Novorussians in a bad light.
The organization behind this and similar “info” is a US NGO, and it’s doubtful that it is correct in its presentation. However, it’s well-known that there are many Russian volunteers helping Novorossiya and obviously there will be some fatalities among them.
You know that one-half of those trapped within the Debaltsevo cauldron were NATO troops, right? They were Polish, UK, US including African-Americans. There is suppressed film of the corpses, and the living were allowed to retreat s part of the Minsk deal.
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@Penelope “You know that one-half of those trapped within the Debaltsevo cauldron were NATO troops, right? They were Polish, UK, US including African-Americans.”
No, I don’t know that, it strikes me as unsubstantiated BS propaganda. I haven’t even heard citizen reports of liberated Debaltsevo charging that – AFAIK it was only DPR claims before they even entered the area.
Where’s the proof?
DPR several times said they were hearing English, Polish, French and other languages on radio intercepts. In several places they found NATO issue armaments and ammunition, as well as bodies in NATO issue clothing and a few documents. Some of these have been videoed. They probably have lot more details than they tell us in news snippets.
Civilians will tell the first reporters “we sat in the basement for 7 days wiuth no food” sooner than “we saw some Americans”.
It is certain that once the urgent humanitarian needs are met, NAF will be de-briefing the locals on details of the occupation. … who, when, what they did etc. A lot of this would be kept for future use, less likely as propaganda and more likely as behind-scenes negotiating points.
USA, Poland and other countries have openly sent “trainers” and “advisers” so it’s a bit strange to “call BS” on claims that such have been seen there. It would not be surprising to find some at the front, especially where there is sophisticated equipment to operate4, eg mortar locating radars. One British and one American speaker were filmed, with audio, at Mariupol, too.
It is believed some 700 advisers/commanders were taken out on “civilian evacuation” buses. The few civilians with them cannot be interviewed because they were taken to Kiev held territory.
alan king
“authenticity ?”
From vice news? LOL. They are the “new and improved” voice of america for mentally underdeveloped 20 somethings.
The Vice News (good name for them ,actually) is a notorious anti-Russian,pro-junta bunch.So anything they say is twisted to serve their propaganda purposes.
Vice news is an anti Russian media outlet. Surprised you didn’t know. Or maybe you do know….. Faux naive???
Vice is CIA funded…that’s what I heard. And they were often supportive of the Ukrainian side of this stupid war. VICE is not trust-worthy…to say the least
@Ann – Agreed that it is somewhat propaganda. What I have often found is a major disconnect between the video / footage / interviews – which are first-rate – and the narrative by the “journalist” – which is stupid propaganda. Some of the most revealing videos I have seen of Ukraine are from the Russian Roulette series – just ignore the narration and watch the videos / interviews, they are exceptionally good.
http://www.dokaz.org.ua/en/%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B5-%D0%BF%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B8-%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B3%D1%83%D0%BB%D1%8F%D1%80%D0%BD%D1%8B%D1%85-%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA-%D1%80%D1%84-%D0%B2/#.VPquqXysWpA
this is a link to an extensive detailed list, by regiment , division, battalion for example, 200″ “300” etc etc of I think what is presented Russian military losses in east ukraine-is it possible for this to be evaluated in some way please?
i had google searched for “real losses of russian army in ukrainian war”……………..if link does not work
Always look at HOW WOULD THEY KNOW what they claim to know.
For many countries, Russia included, it is fairly easy to find out which named or numbered military unit is stationed where. They usually have them listed on some official site, or social media keeps track of it. It may even be collected on Wikipedia or on hobbyist sites (some people track foreign troop movements for fun, like others spot trains or photograph civilian aircraft).
But…. you are in a war, you kill some enemy say close enough to see them fall, ie half a mile or less. If it was by explosion you can’t even be sure of the numbers. But say you can see an exact count. How do you know WHAT UNIT THEY BELONG TO? Every now and then the others flee, or you kill everyone, and get to see the bodies (therefore the badges) close up.. But not every single time.
Nor is it likely Russia sends in troops in groups of 15 from 100s of separate brigades and battalions, having 4 or 5 such unrelated groups frighting side by side. So this big list of “proof” is worthless exactly because, by trying to credible by giving details, it got too detailed.
But they never try to explain how or where they got the information. It doesn’t look like any internal official report, either, so……
The zionazi-nazi/Israeli-Ukrainian alliance:
Израильские и украинские медики прооперировали Яроша (Israeli and Ukrainian doctors operated Yarosh)
Dnepropetrovsk Ukraine-Israeli medical team operated on the leader of the extremist organization “Right sector” Dmitry Yarosh, said the deputy of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine Borys Filatov.
States that “the operation was carried out joint Ukrainian-Israeli team of doctors and specialists.”
“Based on the experience of Israel in the field of gunshot wounds and mine-explosive injuries as consultants were invited to the best Israeli doctors who have had our doctors practical and methodical help,” – said in a statement.
It looks like the Israelis/zionazis are helping their injured nazi quislings in the Ukraine just like they help their injured “al qaida” quislings terrorising Syria.
Saker:
reminder to read this, all 317 (i’ve seen 332, so who knows) pages i have heard, ifff they ever make it public!
remember, it’s already been voted on (by a purely bureaucratic unelected panel!)
For three weeks prior to the vote, not one of the five FCC commissioners bothered to leak the 317 page document so the people who would be most directly effected by the plan could read it and understand what was actually in it.
The FCC opened up their website in order to allow comments from the public on the subject of the order, but of course, having never seen the order, none of the 4 million or so comments could have possibly addressed the plan accurately.
https://willyloman.wordpress.com/2015/03/06/fcc-defends-their-super-secret-process-on-open-internet-order-cant-release-document-yet-bc-theyre-still-writing-it/
Please stop reading that CIA-stooge “Willy Lomann”, he is posting lies all the time. He was also a staunch supporter of the moslem brotherhood in Egypt, full of praise for their crazy theocracy which he indeed continuously called a “democratic revolution”.
That’s just one example of many. Avoid that site, blacklist it right now.
I’m kind of eager to hear the counter arguments to this, Strelkov’s latest. It makes sense to me, but I know I can be easily swayed by passionate arguments such as he makes here.
[eng subs] Igor Strelkov interview: about US purposes in this war and Ukrainian people
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGwUAqgYm5s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T65SwzHAbes
This is an interesting point of view – yes, I am Russian occupier but now the Baltics are cleaning Europeans’ toilets.
Strelkov is right:
US will not put soldiers directly into fight with Russia.
US is already blaming Russia for invading, so actual invasion wouldn’t make any difference.
US will keep it going as long as long as they can as “bleeding ulcer” for Ukraine and Russia.
US soldiers already in Ukraine. Violation of Minsk, etc. And Russia does what ?
Russians will have a big party, well knowing that those utterly incompetent american soldiers are a sure guarantee for a lost war (for the Ukie side). They’d be better off with a bunch of apes as “advisers”.
My favorite non sequitor from this broadcast:
“Weapons supplies will slow down the escalation of the conflict”: Polish official.
It’s a pollock joke.
Same as the IMF concept that austerity produces wealth.
I like how Churkin rhetorically urinates on the scum.
Чуркин: Если бы Савченко задержали в США, она бы никогда света белого не увидела (Churkin: If Savchenko detained in the United States, she would never have not seen the light of day)
If Ukrainian aviatrix Hope Savchenko under similar conditions was detained in the United States, but not in Russia, its fate would have been predetermined and sad – “she would never see the light of day,” said Russia’s permanent representative to the UN Vitali Churkin.
“I do not get tired of surprising low awareness of colleagues on the Security Council. Here is a representative of the United Kingdom, Ambassador Lyall Grant asked me a direct question: “Why arrested Savchenko Hope?” So what are you, do not read the newspapers, or what? She is accused of complicity in the murder of two Russian journalists. This is a very serious charge, “- said Churkin, Permanent Representative to the UK to respond to the UN Security Council, reports RIA “Novosti”.
“Very strange to hear the demand for the release Savchenko from the representative of the United States. The American system of jurisprudence and penitentiary system has never been seen in humanity “- continued Churkin.
He also recalled the “habit” of the US “steal around the world of Russian citizens to bring their flimsy charges as a result of provocation perpetrated against them by US intelligence agencies”, for which the citizens of Russia receive a “monstrous prison sentences.”
“I assure you, dear colleagues, I think many people understand this: if Hope Savchenko under similar conditions was in the United States, its fate would have been predetermined and sad. She would never see the light of day”- said Churkin.
Russian Envoy Says US Embassies Provide Misleading Information on Ukraine
Russia’s UN envoy Vitaly Churkin told his US counterpart Samantha Power on Friday that US embassies in Moscow and Kiev provide misleading information on many aspects of the Ukraine crisis.
Earlier today, Power said that Russia was sending humanitarian convoys to eastern Ukraine, but did not allow international monitors to thoroughly examine the cargo.
Churkin reminded her that the latest Russian aid convoy, like many of the previous ones, was inspected by Ukrainian customs officers.
“Ms. Power, I would suggest that you ask your embassies in Moscow and Kiev what they are doing and why they do not provide you with this minimum of information, but instead, keep delivering quite cheap disinfo on this and many other Ukraine issues,” Churkin said at a Security Council meeting on Friday.
Churkin also said that “politicized attacks” on Russia would not affect Moscow’s determination to send further humanitarian assistance to Donbas, which is facing a severe humanitarian crisis.
“Measures taken by Kiev to suffocate the southeast [of Ukraine] have turned into a real blockade,” the diplomat stressed, adding that local residents were deprived of social benefits and pensions.
To date, Russia has sent 17 humanitarian aid convoys to the conflict-hit area, carrying over 22,000 tons of food, water, clothes, medicines, power generators and building materials, to the self-proclaimed Donetsk and Luhansk People’s Republics.
He might have added: “And how much in humanitarian aid was it that you in the West has sent? Oh,that’s right,that would be NONE.”
Oh,that’s right,that would be NONE.”
That’s not fair, you forgot v. nuland cookie bash;)
Amerika only brings Death and Refuges.
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Thanks for the link, Misha.
I almost forgot, it’s friday, the zionazi weekly Day of Provocations…..
Киев заявил о приостановке отвода вооружений (Kiev announced the suspension of removal arms)
Kiev suspended the removal of weapons of militia appeared to questions, said the head of Mission of Ukraine to the Joint Center for coordination and monitoring of the ceasefire and stabilize the line dividing the sides, Major-General Alexander Razmaznin.
The “questions” are an obvious BS tactic. At the same time as ording their pet orcs to cease the agreed upon withdrawal of heavy weapons (which the orcs had only pretended they were doing), zionazi, inc. ordered the pindo and orc quislings at the UN to accuse Novorossia and Russia of violating the Minsk 2 agreement. Meanwhile some pindo state dept. bum wipe is meeting with Porkshank today.
Last friday, the zionazis murdered Nemtsov and blamed Putin. This friday, they have so far started with again violating the Minsk 2 agreement and again falsely accusing Novorossia and Russia.
Meanwhile, Israel-America’s orc nazis are again rounding up people, this time in Mariupol, obviously in connection to the weekly Friday Provocation.
В Мариуполе прошли массовые аресты (In Mariupol were mass arrests)
On Friday it was reported mass arrests of residents of Mariupol, not enough, according to security officials Kiev, Ukrainian loyal to the state. Ukrainian head of the Interior Ministry of Donbass already declared 50 arrested in this city for all time “ATO”. To be in a Ukrainian prison, you need not so much: to say something is wrong, go to someone or just a way to quarrel with neighbors.
Ukrainian hackers from “CyberBerkut” reported on Friday that Kiev organized special services “cleansing” in Mariupol.
“Recently, the Security Service of Ukraine and the Ukrainian penal battalions power structures arranged total sweep in the city of Mariupol,” – said the group, which refers to a hacked correspondence employees Ukrainian Ministry of Information Policy.
According to the hackers, a few days in the city were arrested more than 100 people. “In the city grab anyone who looked not so, is not it said. Snitches roam the markets go in the taxi, eavesdropping on conversations of passengers, “- said in a statement.
Hackers published the letter, allegedly belonging to the Deputy Minister of Information Policy of Ukraine Tatyana Popova, in one of which the official has recommended to implement in Mariupol “pilot project military and civil administration.”
Hackers promise to soon publish the internal documents of the Ministry of Information Policy of Ukraine and the correspondence of its employees…
The sooner Mariupol is liberated the better for the population.Its horrible how the populous there is suffering under nazi junta occupation (the same is true of Kharkov).Hopefully,once this ceasefire breakdowns totally those cities can be freed.
yeah and the Junta is raising the number of soldiers…I guess lots will be from other countries, as the poor Ukrainians aren’t very willing to be soldiers for those fuc**ng as*ho*es
so when a bank gets its assets frozen, does that mean ‘stolen’ ?
Sure. remember how they “froze” $150 Bio. from Lybia because it was “stolen by Gadaffi”. The Lybians never saw it again and noone speaks about it anymore.
Depends on the laws. But generally who eves has the money gets to keep it safe. Supposedly to give it back once it has been unfrozen. They did send back Iraq’s money after removing the US cut for expenses.. If that was anything like the Oil for food program, there would not have been much left. Since they removed the expense for gulf rout 1, the cost for the entire coalition of liars essence to wag that invasion. Then war reparations.. Which was pitiful but I had relatives in Kuwait who got like 20K since the entire family had to leave and never go back and they lost everything they had. But if they were US citizens that would have been 2 mil at least. They could only buy select food and medicine from select suppliers and at very high cost. So all the oil money went just for that little bit and not debt relief. Now Iraq is paying off that old debt relief which Kuwait and SA gave Iraq to wage their war against Iran. Same as now except Saddam thought his friends were sincere.. Some here now brings up Saddam’s palace as the sign of decadence.. Since Saddam looting the place dry did not stand up. So its he built all these buildings to give work to the Iraq’s when nothing could be imported or exported and there was no work. So that’s why Saddam was bad, he built thousands of useless buildings and monuments all over the place to keep the Iraqi’s busy with something to do. Saddam was an ass.. But some of these guys who think killing millions of Iraq’s because Saddam was an ass are the ultimate exceptionalists assholes..
Actually I knew many Solders who were in GW1.. They all hated the US government since all the inoculations and DU and chemicals and stuff made their immunize systems turn to crap. They often have diarrhea, kids with eyes on the ridges of their nose, vomiting, but all that is caused by their unability to do a hard days work and excuses to stay in bed. Even the Kuwaiti’s say the US saved the oil not them.
Two suspects in the Nemtsov murder have been arrested. 4 more are being sought and it is thought the “contractors” for the murder are outside Russia.
Two Suspects Arrested in Nemtsov’s Murder Investigation
2 suspects in Nemtsov murder detained – FSB chief
Источник: Заказчики убийства Немцова могут находиться за рубежом (Source: Customers murder Nemtsov may be abroad)
Customers assassination policy Boris Nemtsov may be located outside of Russia, said a source familiar with the situation.
“Traces of the crime can lead abroad. This version is actively being, “- writes “Kommersant” , citing a source, “Interfax”.
The source said, “Do not discount previously announced version.”
In turn, the source RIA “News” in the police said that the detainees may be placed in the metropolitan detention center “Lefortovo”.
“It is common practice, when, regardless of the place of detention in the” Lefortovo “fit persons suspected of particularly serious crimes against political figures, or if such a crime, in principle, there is a political motive,” – he said.
As examples, he cited the room at different times in the insulator ex-chief of the operational-search control of the Moscow police Dmitry Pavlyuchenkova, who was accused of complicity in the murder of journalist Anna Politkovskaya, Magomed Suleimanov, who was charged with the murder of former Colonel Yuri Budanov, as well as the mayor of Makhachkala Said Amirov, who was detained on suspicion of organizing the assassination of the head of the investigation department of the capital of Dagestan Arsen Gadzhibekov.
Четыре человека разыскиваются по делу об убийстве Немцова (Four men are wanted for the murder of Nemtsov)
Anzor Gubashev and Zaur Dadaev arrested on suspicion of murder Boris Nemtsov. According to preliminary data, they are the actual perpetrators of the murder. LifeNews source in law enforcement agencies reported that today are still in search of 4 people.
According to a source LifeNews, the remaining suspects were accomplices and provide Gubasheva and Dadaeva with weapons, as well as watching Boris Nemtsov.
So at least 6 involved in Russia, if the other 4 sought are all in Russia, and it’s possible others outside Russia have been linked who probably ordered and organised the hit. It’s sounding like it was done like the Politkovskaya murder, where the Israeli-Americans used elements of the Jewish mafia rather than the Mossad/CIA assassin teams.
Dear The Saker,
You gotta laugh. “The Russians are not invited and didn’t liberate Aushwitz” Poles who have boots on the ground killing Novorossian civilians think they can ask for Russia to lift sanctions on their food exports – I kid you not!
http://tass.ru/en/world/781614
It is like they have a mental disconnect! I would use Nulands choice words to that Govt. They have been so deeply involved in Ukraine.
Rgds,
Veritas
6 March. /TASS/. Following Greece’s lead, Poland has asked Russia’s veterinary and phytosanitary watchdog (Rosselkhoznadzor) to negotiate food exports to Russia, Rosselkhoznadzor’s chief Sergei Dankvert said on Friday.
well stop sending arms and being provocative with NATO, stop sending troops etc etc, if you feel the EU sanctions have rebounded on you, and as EU has no way to reimburse your businesses and farmers for loss of work.
BTW-as ukr currency falls , means they have no money to import coal, they shelled mines, miners are on strike for not being payed 3 months, is russia still sending 1m tons every month-free or sold with big discount?
Horrible accent. Uninteresting delivery.
Makes it sound neither convincing nor fun.