Two phone conversations have recently been intercepted by “parties unknown” (thank you Spetssviaz & 6th GRU!) which are truly revealing of the true nature of the folks put in power by the CIA.
The first one is a conversation between Igor Kolomoisky, mega-oligarch, Mafia don, dual Ukrainian-Israeli citizen and “junta governor” of the city of Dnepropetrovsk in southeastern Ukraine and Oleg Tsarev, ex-candidate in the Presidential election (ex Party of Regions, now independent), the one who was brutally assaulted in Kiev after participating to a show called – I kid you not – “free speech”. This is the machine translated transcript of the conversation (slightly corrected by me):
Kolomoysky: Hi.
Tsarev: Hi.
Kolomoysky: Where are you? Same place?
Tsarev: Same place.
Kolomoysky: How are you?
Tsarev: Good.
Kolomoysky: There’s big trouble happened . A Jew of the Dnepropetrovsk Jewish community was.
Tsarev: What happened there?
Kolomoysky: Well, a Jew got killed, one of the Dnepropetrovsk Jewish community . I am right now in the synagogue.
Tsarev: What was he doing there?
Kolomoysky: Well , no matter what he did. They said that they would put a contract on your life, fuck , big money.
Tsarev: For my life?
Kolomoysky: Million dollars. For your life . Yes. Moreover , they said that will be looking everywhere. Well, I just say that this so you say in Moscow, don’t travel anywhere
Tsarev: Let me tell you something . In Africa, there are …
Kolomoysky: Tomorrow they will go after your people (family) here.
Tsarev: In Africa, there is such a … such a poison …
Kolomoysky: Look, I don’t give a fuck about Africa. I don’t care about this. I am telling you that in the synagogue on the eve of the Sabbath there was a prayer. They prayed for the slain fellow Jew, comrade Shlemkevich, who was killed in Mariupol, fuck!
Tsarev: So …
Kolomoysky: And they said that Tsarev is to blame for it all, fuck . And tomorrow, fuck, the first thing they will do is look for all your loved ones, fuck . You better tell them to get the fuck out of here. Because we will hang them right on the public square, fuck … And tell Markov not to come here . Well, in the Ukraine. Under any circumstances . You hear me?
Tsarev: Do not call me . Do not call me , Igor.
Kolomoysky: Not to call you? Ok. So long Tsarev
Tsarev: Come on. Bye.
Charming no?
The second conversation, which is too long for me to transcribe here took place between a guy called Oleg Noginskii and the Israeli Honorary Ambassador to the Ukraine, Ian Epstein (spelling?). The Russian transcript can be found here. Two things are clear from that conversation: Kolomoiski is the guy who sent the neo-Nazis to Odessa and the Israeli diplomat and the Jewish community in the Ukraine are horrified by Kolomoiski’s actions and want to distance themselves from what they call “Nazi crimes”. Noginski spells out there conclusion:
We declare that the world Jewish community, first: has nothing to do with Mr Kolomoisky, second: does not support (the actions) in Odessa, or Mariupol or any of those involved and expresses sincere sympathy. And third, says that if a Jew is involved in Nazi crimes, we will fight first him.
I find this very interesting because it perfectly illustrates something which I have been trying to hammer into the heads of the pathological Jew-haters out there for what seems like forever: YES there are Jewish oligarchs out there who are almost a perfect caricature of the loathsome Jewish plutocrat-thug and they are very bit as bad as the worst anti-Jewish propaganda likes to portray them. But NO, they are not typical of a Jewish community which is every bit as complex and diverse as any other. Some Jews are truly horrified by what these oligarchs to and they are acutely aware that the backlash against such scum will hit the entire Jewish community.
Now, of course, a knee-jerk rabid Jew-hater will immediately reply that “oh, of course, how naive, these guys are playing both sides just to make sure to win” which is absolute crap. I personally have known many Jews who have were active in struggles for what is right without anybody knowing about it. Like my Jewish neighbor who was sending money to Serbs during the wars in Croatia, Bosnia and Kosovo and even after, and then she was sending letters of support to Milosevic in the Hague not because she wanted to play “both sides” but because her entire family except her mother had been butchered in the Nazi camps and she was grateful for the Serbs for having really fought Hitler (unlike the rest of Europe).
Now while I am at it, let me make something clear here:
I am fully aware of the role which Jews played in the horrors of the 20th century, I am aware that they declared war on Russia first, and on Germany after that (both times the order came from organized American Jewry and Jewish banks), I loathe both Rabbinical Judaism and Zionism because both are based on self-worship and racism. I don’t need lectures on all the bad things Jews have done or are still doing. Believe me, I have read more anti-Jewish books than most people here (if only because I read them all not only English, but also in Russian which has at least 10 times as many anti-Jewish books as there are in English). And yet, I want to make something clear:
As Gilad Atzmon correctly points out – Jews are racist, but they are not a race. As Shlomo Sands proved it – there is not such thing as a “Jewish race”. It’s an invention. Like most nations, by the way. So we are dealing with two ideological phenomena: a) Jewish tribalism and b) Rabbinical Judaism. Neither of them is transmitted by genes, has any basis in biology or is somehow magically passed on from generation to generation.
So I am walking a very difficult and tight path here: I DO want to participate and support the struggle against the secular and religious manifestations of Jewish racism. But I DO NOT want to “cross the line” and do exactly what I accuse many Jews of doing: turn racist myself and deny our common humanity. I assure you that my position is a difficult one as I get labeled both an anti-Semite and a Jew-lover. I am neither. Or, I am an anti-racist and a mankind-lover if you prefer. I will go as far as saying that Rabbinical Judaism is, in my sincerely held conclusion, Satanic at its core and at least as evil as Wahabi Islam. And Zionism is noting but the semi-secular rendition of the same racist values (at least modern Zionism, the original one was a very different phenomenon). But to bring all the evils of our times only to the actions of those Jews who are truly evil is plain ridiculous: there is AT LEAST as much non-Jewish evil out there as there is Jewish one. Need I remind you all that the favorite slogan of the Ukie Nazis is: “Бий жидів та москалів” or “beat the Jews and the Russians” (notice that Jews come first!).
I am disgusted by the modern media in which no criticisms of Jews is possible or, not without at least 3 paragraphs of disclaimers. I hate the modern “Holocaust Industry” (As Norman Finkelstein called it) for constantly rubbing it in over and over and over and over again with the “Holocaust” and its absolutely mandatory figure of “6 millions” (the only case of mass murder in history which always has to be attached to a number of victims, the only one. Ever wondered why?). I find Israel an abomination whose very existence is a disgrace for all of mankind. And I am sick and tired of mediocre talentless Jews being promoted by their fellow Jews everywhere just because “he is one of us”. But NONE of that has ANYTHING to do with race, ethnicity or biology. This is simply the hijacking of an immoral and corrupt society by a particularly immoral and corrupting *tribe* which is also ruled by its own 1%. Just like non-Jews, the vast majority of Jews having no control over what their elites are doing in their name. As for their elites, they brainwash them literally from birth (just study the feat of Purim for a proof of that) and then further terrify them with the constant repetition of the mantra: “the goyim hate us, they almost exterminated us many times, we have to protect ourselves or they will exterminate us again, we need to make sure we hold all the positions of power and wealth to prevent the goying from killing us all”. And the percentage of Jews who believes that crap is about the same as the percentage of non-Jews who believe the propaganda which they are taught in their own home and schools. Guys – we are all humans, with the same weaknesses, the same inclinations and the same evil 1% ruling over us.
Anyway, I am getting off my soapbox fully aware that I must have pissed off both those who like Jews and those who hate them. Look, this is my opinion and I don’t expect you all to agree. What I will say is that this is my blog and this is my post and for the comments section under this post – just for this one time – I will set much stricter rules than usual. First, if you want to call me an anti-Semite or a covert Jew or Jew-lover – don’t bother. I plead guilty both (just to confuse and piss you off) and reject your comment. Second, IF you want to discuss the “J” topic – make darn sure that your comment is respectful to all others, well substantiated, logically organized and substantive. Venting or slogans will be rejected. And please posts on this topic only if you have something to say, at least in regards to my rant which I will single out in blue to separate it from the rest of the post about the Ukraine.
Oh, and for Pete’s sake, please read what I actually wrote. And if needed, read it again. I wrote what I wrote and not something else. Please don’t “read something into what I wrote”. No “overtones” or implications. If you are not sure – please ask. I say this because the other day I got an email from a moron who accused me of being an anti-Semite and when I challenged him three times to quote a single sentence from this 7 year old blog to prove it he could not come up with one example. You have no idea how sick and tired I am of constantly having to deal with idiots who simply cannot understand that I do oppose an ideology and not a race. Or take the expression “AngloZionist Empire” which I use (and find very appropriate). Do you know how many times I got an objection to the use of the word “Anglo”? Once. Do you know how often I got attacked for the second part of the expression “Zionist”? Too many to count by now. Though, think of it: “Anglo” is a cultural/ethnic term. “Zionist” is a purely ideological one. Yet it is this second, non-racial, term which gets me accused of being a racist. How frigging stupid can people be? (Pardon my frustration, but I am sooooo tired of idiots!!!). It is a special torture for me to write one thing, and then have to spend time trying to prove to semi-literate morons that I did not write what they thought I wrote but that what I wrote is actually what I wrote (would seem self-evident, but no, not to some idiots).
Anyway, end of rant here. I get off my soap box, take a deep breath, drink a glass of water, wipe the sweat of my brow and feel a mixture of relief (felt good to yell) and guilt (my God, did I really yell for that long?!).
Remember the one-time comments rule for this section in blue, or you will be offended again. Speaking of offending. I apologize if anything I wrote above offended anybody. No, I don’t care if I ruffled some hyper politically-correct and sensitive feathers. But if I did really offend somebody I apologize. Like you I am just a fallible human being who has a very long record of being wrong.
The other interesting development in the Ukraine is the growing evidence that the junta is grossly under-reporting its losses. For example, there is very good evidence that two armored personnel carriers and even one infantry fighting vehicles were completely destroyed by the resistance. There is no way that the number of casualties could be 7 as announced by the junta. A figure of at least 15-20 would be much more likely. Some sources in the combat area are claiming that the real number of killed junta soldiers is close to one hundred. What is certain is that the military commander of the resistance have now declared that they will engage in offensive combat operations and that all Ukie soldiers – whether conscripts of hired guns – will killed.
At the same time, military coordinator of Lugansk Resistance, Vladimir Karasiuk, declared that Donetsk and Lugansk will not unite because it is indispensable to unify all the regions of the southwest, including Kharkov, Donetsk, Lugansk, Dnepropetrovsk, Zaporozhie, Nikolaev, Kherson and Odessa.
This might all be bluster, I have no way of checking, but it sounds to me like the resistance in the Donbass is getting much more confident. Finally, I have seen some combat footage showing what are clearly well-trained and well-equipped Donbass resistance units preparing for an ambush. This was not the typical ragtag force mix of civilians with hunting rifles, young men with pretend semi-uniforms and a few old guys with beer bellies. The footage showed a well camouflaged unit silently progressing though vegetation while keeping in radio contact with their commanders. Also, at least one pro-resistance website mentions radio intercepts of the junta forces radio communications. Nice. It looks to me that the resistance might well be getting better organized and better equipped.
Stay tuned, I will soon have a report about worldwide reactions to the events in the Ukraine.
Ooops – here is a tornado warning here.
Gotta run.
Be back later!
The Saker
G’day Nora, (PART I)
The crypto Jewish Columbus brothers and their tribe led Amerikkans in the genociding of 60 to 100 million Amerindians over several centuries, Jew dominated Hollywood presents numerous films denigrating Amerindians and blaming goyim for Black slavery which distorts the truth. MOST slave traders were Jews and a hugely higher percentage of Jews OWNED black slaves than did white people.
The real joke about Amerikkans (1) and their bogus exceptionalism is that today ALL USans are bonded slaves owned by Jew banksters but they do not know it. (1) (NOTE: It is inappropriate for USans to call themselves “Americans” because the true Americans are the Amerindians and the terms now denotes ALL peoples living in the Americas NOT just USans).
During the American Civil War. the Jews realised that there was a better way to enslave goyim. The rationale for free range wage-slave workers was spelt out in the Hazard circular sent by London banksters to US banksters in July 1862, in the middle of the American Civil War. It said:
`Slavery is likely to be abolished by the war power and chattels slavery destroyed. This I and my European friends are in favor of, for slavery is but the owning of labor and carries with it the care of the laborers, while the European plan, led by England, is that capital [the banksters] shall control labor by controlling wages. This can be done by controlling the money. The great debt (national) that capitalists will see to it is made out of the war, must be used as a means to control the volume of money. To accomplish this the war bonds must be used as a banking basis. We are now waiting for the Secretary of the Treasury to make this recommendation to Congress.’
The bogus US Congress passed the National Bank Act of 1863 giving the banksters power to create money as debt, but not exclusively. In 1872 Horace Greeley said of the Act:
`We have stricken the shackles from four million beings and brought all laborers to a common level, not so much by the elevation of the former slaves as by practically reducing the whole working population, white and black, to a condition of serfdom. While boasting of our noble deeds we are careful to conceal the ugly fact that by our iniquitous money system we have nationalized a system of oppression which, though more refined, is not less cruel than the old system of chattel slavery.’
Blessings,
Ron
G’day Nora, PART II)
However, the switch to formal legal enslavement was effected during the Great Depression. Colonel Edward Mandell House is said to have given a very detailed outline of the plans to be implemented to enslave the American people. In a private meeting with Woodrow Wilson (President 1913 – 1921) he said:
‘Very soon, every American will be required to register their biological property (that’s you and your children) in a national system designed to keep track of the people and that will operate under the ancient system of pledging. By such methodology, we can compel people to submit to our agenda, which will affect our security as a charge back for our fiat paper currency. Every American will be forced to register or suffer being able to work and earn a living. They will be our chattels (property) and we will hold the security interest over them forever, by operation of the law merchant under the scheme of secured transactions. Americans, by unknowingly or unwittingly delivering the bills of lading (Birth Certificate) to us will be rendered bankrupt and insolvent, secured by their pledges. They will be stripped of their rights and given a commercial value designed to make us a profit and they will be none the wiser, for not one man in a million could ever figure our plans and, if by accident one or two should figure it out, we have in our arsenal plausible deniability. After all, this is the only logical way to fund government, by floating liens and debts to the registrants in the form of benefits and privileges. This will inevitably reap us huge profits beyond our wildest expectations and leave every American a contributor to this fraud, which we will call “Social Insurance.” Without realizing it, every American will unknowingly be our servant, however begrudgingly. The people will become helpless and without any hope for their redemption and we will employ the high office (presidency) of our dummy corporation (USA) to foment this plot against America.’ – See eg: Colonel Edward Mandell House Predicts the Creation of the STRAWMAN in the US. – http://abundanthope.net/pages/True_US_History_108/Colonel_Edward_Mandell_House_Predicts_the_Creation_3153.shtml
And: The Bankruptcy of The United States By James Traficant, Jr. – http://abundanthope.net/pages/True_US_History_108/The_Bankruptcy_of_The_United_States_3135.shtml And: US Congress: House Joint Resolution 192 of June 5, 1933. – http://abundanthope.net/pages/True_US_History_108/US_Congress_House_Joint_Resolution_192_of_June_5_1_3312.shtml
BRITISH FINANCIAL WARFARE: 1929; 1931- 33 HOW THE CITY OF LONDON CREATED THE GREAT DEPRESSION. See: http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/BRITISH_FINANCIAL_WARFARE_1929_1931-_33_HOW_THE_CI_3133.shtml
Arguably the Jews (neo-Pharisees) are unique because they formally believe all other humans are animals to be slaughtered etc at whim. Some Amerikkans may believe that certain groups of people are inferior but that belief is not overtly enshrined in the US Constitution whereas the Jews have enshrined the doctrine of inherent goyim sub-human status in the Talmudic law by which they live.
As regards the reality that Amerikkans, as a collective, are total hypocritical and genocidal specialists, it is instructive to discover how they got that way. Arguably that situation arises from Jewish influences on Anglos from the mid 16th Century on and it becomes obvious during WWI and becomes set in stone by Roosevelt, Eisenhower and Truman during WWII.
Einstein and other Jews advocating (before WWII stated) that the US develop the atomic bomb. Then Harry S(olomon) Truman capriciously murdered and maimed hundreds of thousands of Japanese in Hiroshima and Nagasaki with it. When Oppenheimer celebrated the atomic genociding of Japanese by rejoicing and saying: “I HAVE BECOME DEATH”, there seems to have been no ability for USans to resist the Judaic penchant for war.
Blessings,
Ron
G’day Nora (PART III)
What most people do not appreciate is that once Jew banksters obtain a monopoly on the right to create money out of thin air and to charge interest (usury) on it; together with the right to impose fractional reserve banking upon humanity generally, they very soon come to own virtually everything and hence everybody. That applies to ownership of governments and judiciaries etc (which are in fact corporations covertly owned by Jew banksters) and all other substantial corporations which includes churches and religion, Once you own everything it is not difficult to get people to do your bidding as life in the US illustrates. Accordingly the tendency to blame the Catholic Church AS IF IT IS SOMEHOW INDEPENDENT is just part of the Jews “divide and conquer” strategy. The Vatican is just another tentacle of the Judaic octopus.
For instance the Rothschilds are said to have handled Vatican finances since the 1820 and John Paul I and John Paul II were murdered by Bolshevik Jews in the Vatican .John Paul II was replaced by a double who was programmed to perform his pro Judaic actions. See eg: Dr Peter Beter – audio letter No 41,Topic #2–SPIRITUAL WARFARE AND THE COLLAPSE OF TRUST. -http://www.peterdavidbeter.com/docs/all/dbal41.html
Dr Peter Beter – audio letter No 42, Topic #2 – THE BOLSHEVIK PLOT FOR A POPE’S REVOLUTION. See: http://www.peterdavidbeter.com/docs/all/dbal42.html
Dr Peter Beter – audio letter No 65, Topic #1–THE POPE, THE PRESIDENT, AND ASSASSINATION POLITICS. See: http://www.peterdavidbeter.com/docs/all/dbal65.html
Humanoid Stand-ins of World Leaders – Dr. Peter Beter. See: http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/Humanoid-Stand-ins-of-World-Leaders—Dr-Peter-Beter.shtml
Dr Peter Beter – Audio Letter No 47 – Topic #1–THE SCIENTIFIC BACKGROUND OF THE RUSSIAN ROBOTOIDS. Topic #2–THE RUSSIAN STRATEGY TO DISMANTLE BOLSHEVIK POWER, See: http://www.peterdavidbeter.com/docs/all/dbal47.html
Dr Peter Beter – Audio Letter No 46 – Intro & Topic #1–NELSON ROCKEFELLER’S REVENGE FROM THE GRAVE See: http://www.peterdavidbeter.com/docs/all/dbal46.html
Edward Henrie in his book, Solving the Mystery of Babylon the Great, claims that RC Catholic Church was established by Crypto-Jews as a false “Christian” front for a Judaic/Babylonian religion. Henrie also claims that Pope Clement II (1478-1534), Pope Leo X (1513-1521) and Pope Leo XI (1535-1605) were all Crypto-Jews.
http://rehmat1.com/2014/04/25/sainthood-of-two-kosher-popes/
Other explanations of how the jews have subverted the Vatican in modern times include:
Converts Who Changed the Church Jewish-Born Clerics Helped Push Vatican II Reforms
http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/Converts-Who-Changed-the-Church-Jewish-Born-Clerics-Helped-Push-Vatican-II-Reforms.shtml
The Pharisees of the Vatican – http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/The-Pharisees-of-the-Vatican.shtml
The “Jews” Behind the Second Vatican Council. See: http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/The-Jews-Behind-the-Second-Vatican-Council.shtml
Dr. Peter David Beter – Audio Letters No. 39, 41 & 42: http://www.peterdavidbeter.com/docs/all/dbal39.html And:http://www.peterdavidbeter.com/docs/all/dbal41.html
http://www.peterdavidbeter.com/docs/all/dbal42.html
The Evolution of the Relationship Between Catholics and Jews How Vatican II Sparked an Ongoing Revolution of Faith. See: http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/The-Evolution-of-the-Relationship-Between-Catholics-and-Jews-How-Vatican-II-Sparked-an-Ongoing-Revolution-of-Faith.shtml
The Vatican Scandals: A Never-ending Story. see: http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/The-Vatican-Scandals-A-Never-ending-Story.shtml
http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/The-Pharisees-of-the-Vatican-Some-interesting-reader-comments-on-the-original-VT-article.shtml
BTW, the fighting will almost certainly stop this year.whereat the truth will come out.
Blessings,
Ron
@inserting the Orthodox Church into New Testament scriptures which were written centuries before Orthodox Church came into being as an institution
This is a non-sensical affirmation.
@Мудра сова:I am curious why you’d say that Israel is an abomination.
Well, for one thing it is the only OFFICIALLY racist state on the planet. According to Israeli law, *ANY* Jew on the planet has the right to live in Israel, but Palestinians who fled Israeli terror in the past and who would want to return cannot. Even if they were born in Jerusalem, Bethleem or Nazareth. Second, the Israeli policy towards the so-called “Palestinian problem” is simple: Apartheid inside Israel proper, slow-motion genocide in the occupied territories. Third, Israel violates about every norm of civilized behavior and international law in existence. Are you telling me that you did not know that? Is that really news for you? Or do you agree with it?
Cheers,
The Saker
@Т1:how does 9/11 fit into current perceptions of the political process?
Some history (about me and my views about 911):
http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/2009/09/911-truth-movement.html
http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/2010/02/some-thoughts-of-newcomer-to-911-truth.html
http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/2010/09/why-am-i-not-hearing-endless-rumble-of.html
Bottom line: there is no doubt in my mind, none AT ALL, that 911 was an “inside job”. Flight 93 was shot down. Not sure about what hit the Pentagon though. Was is certain is that Uncle Sam has de facto admitted that 911 was an inside job when it admitted free fall in WTC7. And no, I don’t believe that a nuke was used, nor do I believe in any kind of ray-run. Good old explosives (actually, bleeding edge nanotech thermite).
Does that answer your question adequately?
Cheers,
The Saker
“Nora said…
Auslander,
Do you think maybe Kiev is trying to kill two birds with one stone by getting Pravy Sektor out of Kiev and using them as cannon fodder? It’s the mercenaries who really worry me: just like the street thugs, they don’t care who they fire on, but they do know their stuff.”
Nora, less than 20% of the Right Sector thugs are involved in the operations in the east. Estimates are that more then 50,000 total Right Sector members are in Ukraine, the hard core. Of those perhaps 25% are of fighting age and condition. Right Sector still has and will have for the foreseeable future a strong presence in both the smoldering ruin of maidan and the current Kiev ‘government’.
Street fighters are by their very nature diametrically opposed to the needed attributes of soldiers. The right sector thugs who join the ‘national guard’, which is almost 100% right sector, are given a crash two week course in ‘Soldier 101’ and then sent east. Their losses have been heavy and will continue to be so.
As for the ‘mercenaries’, they are certainly not the kings of the battlefield. They are good and well trained, yes, but they are not fighting muslims or Africans this time and if you think there are not some very highly trained and motivated soldiers on the Federalist side you are mistaken. The Blackwater boys (call ’em what you want, they are still Blackwater regardless of what name is on the sign at the office) have suffered losses and the great fear of their masters is when, not if but when, some are captured they will be paraded in public for the world to see. They also fear to an extant and respect to a great extent Berkut. After the betrayal of Berkut and the slaughter of several hundreds of them after the Kiev debacle it is needless to say that the Berkut boys involved in Donbas and Lugansk are pretty motivated also.
Bottom line, unless something unforeseen happens in the next few days it is going to get pretty ugly in Donbass. Slavyansk seems to be the focal point of the current fighting but now that Ahkmetov has tossed his hat in to the fray the focus of fighting may change. We’ll see. Then you have to remember that the EU citizens are not happy with what their governments have done and the elections in EU will be very soon, as in about a week. If Merkel and Holland fall, that may well foment a sea change in Ukraine. Again, we will just have to wait and see, as all the while civilians and fighters are dying daily.
Auslander
@James: WizOz said inserting the Orthodox Church into New Testament scriptures which were written centuries before Orthodox Church came into being as an institution. This is a non-sensical affirmation.
WizOz is absolutely correct. The Orthodox Church came into being at the Pentecost and the entire New Testament was written within the Orthodox Church which, at the time, was simply the Church of Christ.
James – what kind of nonsense have you been taught? In your opinion, when what the Orthodox Church founded and by whom?
The Saker
Thanks for your reply, Saker. I reply back.
Saker: Well, for one thing it is the only OFFICIALLY racist state on the planet.
Мудра сова: We agreed that there is no such thing as Jewish race, so Israel cannot be a racist state by definition.
Saker: According to Israeli law, *ANY* Jew on the planet has the right to live in Israel,…
Мудра сова: This is not much different from the “right of return’ laws of many nations; check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_return
Saker: …but Palestinians who fled Israeli terror in the past and who would want to return cannot. Even if they were born in Jerusalem, Bethleem or Nazareth.
Мудра сова: If you lose a war, you lose a right to inhabit a territory. An estimated 12 million Volksdeutsche fled or were expelled from central Europe after WWII. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volksdeutsche). I don’t see how what’s happened to Palestinians is any worse than this.
Saker: Second, the Israeli policy towards the so-called “Palestinian problem” is simple: Apartheid inside Israel proper, slow-motion genocide in the occupied territories.
Мудра сова: I buy the apartheid argument, but not the genocide for the simple fact that the proportion of citizens of Israel who are Muslim (proxy for Arabs) has grown since 1948, and the growth rate of the Muslim population is still higher than the growth rate of the Jewish population. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Israel
Saker: Third, Israel violates about every norm of civilized behavior and international law in existence. Are you telling me that you did not know that? Is that really news for you? Or do you agree with it?
Мудра сова: I am not an expert but I know enough about it. My agreement or disagreement with it is irrelevant to this discussion. The point is: does Israel have the right to exist as a state for the Jewish nation? And my answer is: of course it does. If Germany didn’t lose the right to exist as a nation after WWII, despite causing the deaths of tens of millions of other people, not just its own citizens, I don’t see how any nation could not have a right to exist. Or do you believe that Israel is worse than Nazi Germany?
Мудра сова: Also please answer my question from the first post: As a thought experiment, please pick between the following two extremes: a) all the world’s Jews live in Israel; b) all the world’s Jews live in diaspora. Which one would you rather pick? Option a) demands that there is a state for Jewish people, i.e. the state of Israel.
Regards, Мудра сова
G’day WizOz,
You ask:
Would you be surprised that documents published by Yad Vashem contradict the “official” figure of 80,000 Jews killed by the Romanian Army at Odessa in 1941? These documents (the Matatias Carp archive) gives the number of… 8,000 as per January 1942!
No I wouldn’t.
When considering information about Jews bear in mind they control all Anglo-US politics, mass media, academia, mass educational institutions, NGOs and other significant information sources, and have almost similar control of global mass media, governments etc. Humanity lives in a sea of Talmudic lies.
Even in Russia, Venezuela and Thailand that are under attack by Jew banksters and USraeli military, secret services, NGOs, “journalists” and other minions, misguided governments allow Jew media and disinformation sources to promulgate false, demonising ies about national leaders and governments.
The blueprint for these pernicious PR exercises was created by the Jew Edward Bernays during WWI & perfected in the 1930s & 1940s as the Jews set up Germany for genocide and enslavement, & promulgation of the Holocaust Blood Libel subsequently used to con humanity generally.
To understand the Jews’ mentality in relation to lying (arguably a general trait not confined to the so-called 1% of “bad apples” in the Jewish barrel because millions of ordinary Jews have claimed & received Holocaust compensation over the last 68 years & many are still at it)*. Lying to gentiles is a sacred duty for Jews. It is part of their Talmudic law & lore.
* See: http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/After-5-Years-Scant-Progress-on-Restitution-for-Holocaust-Survivors.shtml And:
http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/Was-Holocaust-Fraud-at-Claims-Conference-Even-Worse-Than-Believed.shtml
Lying appears to be the most popular Jewish “religious” rite. See Kol Nidre – Judaism’s License To Lie. – http://abundanthope.net/pages/True_US_History_108/Kol-Nidre—Judaism-s-License-To-Lie.shtml
Tough to Put the Kibosh on Kol Nidre. – http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/Tough-to-Put-the-Kibosh-on-Kol-Nidre.shtml
Kaparot and Yom Kippur: Voodoo and Perjury in Judaism – http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/Kaparot-and-Yom-Kippur-Voodoo-and-Perjury-in-Judaism.shtml
Re Holocaust survivors check out the maths:
In the year 2000 Israel said there were one million holocaust survivors still alive, many in financial need. That number is corroborated close enough[3] by other Jewish sources. Survivor implies something escapes by the skin of one’s teeth and it certainly is terrible that so many are in financial need. Cue the extortion music. As we know the average life expectancy giving a number of people alive in a year is the same as giving the percentage alive in that year to a first order approximation. In giving a number Israel also gave the percent…
Elementary algebra[4] says if there were one million alive in the year 2000 then there were 3.75 million holocaust survivors alive in 1945. That is a huge number… If the Nazis killed those unable to work it gets worse. Lets assume 13 years old is old enough to work. So in 1945 the youngest survivor was 13. That means it is as though there were one million survivors in the year 2012. As that is 67 years after it ended then 67/75ths have died and one million represents 8/75ths of the survivors in 1945. That means there were roughly 9.375 million holocaust survivors in 1945.
In 2004 Israel issued a more refined number still alive in that year, 1,092,000, for the purpose of actually filing lawsuits. So 59 years after the event 16/75s were still alive. That leaves us with 5,118,750 alive in 1945 if none were killed for inability to work and the birthrate were the same as peacetime. If we go with those under 13 being killed we have 27,300,000 holocaust survivors alive in 1945. This is nearly twice as many Jews as were in all the world in 1938. http://www.giwersworld.org/holo3/holo-survivors.phtml
Blessings
Ron
Surprise, surprise.
http://www.voltairenet.org/article183839.html
In Soviet times women would carry string bags in their handbags – just in case.
Above perhaps its time once more to prepare the cleaners – just in case.
About masonic issue. In Catholic Church there is still forbiden to be a member of masonic lodge or keeping masonic secrets, taking rewards from them etc. If someone will break this law he ll be automatically excomunicated. In this case, there is no need of confirmation from catholic authorities that person is removed from the Church. If some bishops are masons or helping them (i know personally few cases) that is the personal problem of this individuals. Good catholic knows that cooperation with masons is absolutely wrong and unchristian. Today Catholic Church is in Crisis. Saker was recommending Michael Hoffman on Talmudic Jews issue. I would recommed same author, but in the matter of apostasy in Vatican, which started about 60 years ago.
Some guy was saying this is an “Jew created entity”. So what’s the reason behind constant attacks on this institution from corporate media and covering far worse scandals in orthodox judaism communities or protesant. Same media are covering cases of sexual abuse within politicans and goverment institution. Americans should know that a lot more teachers are sexual predators and they are mainly not punished for their crimes. They are moved to other schools, where these pedophiles are continuing they criminal activities. Where are big media to publicize this ? Escpecially if there are Congresional Reports on this matter.
Finally, Orthodox Church’s apostolic succession is widely recognised and it is uncertain if there where changing name or not.
Andrew,
“James – what kind of nonsense have you been taught?”
Saker, that is hardly respectful. If I have been disrespectful towards you, I’d be grateful if you could point out how I have been.
To the point of there being no salvation outside the Orthodox Church(es?), in my previous comment, I copied a quote from a reference you gave that seems to contradict your position on this. Have I got that correct? Do you still stand by the statement that there is no salvation outside the Orthodox Church(es)?
To the point of “inserting the Orthodox Church into the New Testament”, I, of course, mean the hierarchical institution and I’ll give you an example of what I meant by that statement. The last sentence of this article
http://orthodoxinfo.com/inquirers/pomaz_status.aspx
that you also linked to is this, “The Church is the pillar and the ground of the Truth (I Tim 3:15)”(emphasis as in the linked article)
I looked up this verse online in multiple editions of the bible and it is as quoted except that the word “Church” is not capitalized in the original and is in every version written as “church” and, further, it is “the church of the living God”. Clearly, an institution is not being referred to here by Timothy.
The author of the linked article was careful not to italicize the words “The Church” in his quote but only italicized the rest i.e. the pillar and the ground of the Truth. Thus the author can avoid the formal charge of misquoting Timothy. But never-the-less, it is less than forthright and appears to be designed to mislead the reader into believing that Timothy was referring to the institution. The author capitalized the word “Church” and left it un-italicized which makes clear he knew he was using the word ‘church’ in a different sense to what Timothy intended and thus changing the ‘subject’ of the sentence and therefore the whole meaning.
By using the capitalized ‘Church’, the institution of the (or perhaps ‘an’) Orthodox Church is implied as being the subject of the sentence. This being so, let’s read the quote again with the full name of an institutional Church, for instance – “The Russian Orthodox Church is is the pillar and the ground of the Truth”. So sayeth Timothy in the 1st Century AD.
Now I don’t think anybody is going to tell me that Timothy meant that or that Timothy attended either of the local Russian or Greek Orthodox Churches in Caesaria or wherever. That is what I mean by ‘inserting the Orthodox Church into the New Testament’.
You’re right, Saker, I have, indeed, been taught a lot of nonsense and much of it by the Roman Catholic Church. I survived it alive and sane and with not a little effort, I might add! One of the tricks the RCC uses is this substitution of “Church” for “church” and vice versa and redefining the meaning either way whenever it suits them. They switch from meaning the legal power institution to the body of members as it suits – depending on whether they wish to exercise their temporal power over others or to distribute responsibility onto others for their misdoings, amongst other things. So I’m alert to this sort of sleight of hand.
You ask of me, “In your opinion, when what the Orthodox Church founded and by whom?”
I don’t know and I would be most grateful if you could tell me. What I do know, though, is that the Russian Orthodox Church did not have any branches, with their name over the door, anywhere near Timothy when he was alive. And that is my point.
(to be continued)
(continued)
Now I’m presuming (and my apologies in advance if I’m wrong) that you hold that there is an historical and unbroken something that links Jesus to the hierarchy of the Russian Orthodox Church today and that whatever this is, it is the conduit through which the Church derives its authority and spiritual power today. If you have the time, space and perhaps the patience, I would, respectfully, very much like to know what that is.
It is worth bearing in mind that I imagine for most people who are not members of an Orthodox Church, the words “Orthodox Church” mean the formal institution of one or more of the recognized Orthodox Churches be it Russian, Greek, Armenian or whatever. So, in my humble opinion, if other definitions of Orthodox Church are intended, they need to be spelt out for clear communication. The same applies to “church”.
Thanks and best wishes
Dearest WizOz,
Before I respond to you, I want to post minor corrections and/or misunderstandings to couple of verses I posted above. Quran is not encouraged to be translated, but I guess we cannot live without the translations.
WizOz: 003.045 Behold! the angels said: “O Mary! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honour in this world and the hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to Allah;
1. The above verse mentions, “Messiah Isa” and not, “Christ Jesus”.
2. In the above verse, the “Word” is not in the sense how Christians are used. Word here means, Be!
Answer: And, it is.
WizOz: 003.048 “And Allah will teach him the Book and Wisdom, the Law and the Gospel,
Quran means, “reading, criterion, wisdom, judgement …”
Therefore, in the above verse it is mentioned that Allah will give Jesus, “Quran, Torah (Law) and Gospel”. The verse does in Arabic mentions Torah, but the translator Mr. Yousuf Ali has chosen to use “Law” in the translation instead of “Torah”.
So much for translations, and for this reason it is highly discouraged to translate. And, once someone translates from Arabic to English, then someone translate from English (not Arabic) to French, and then someone from French to Japanese ….. This becomes a gigantic problem.
Moses was given Torah
David was given Psalms
Jesus was given Evangel
But Muslims believe all these three books were corrupt by the time of Prophet Mohammad. My apologies, if I hurt someone feelings, but this is The Islamic Belief.
Also, one needs to take four things into account when the Scripture was descended:
1. Availability of paper, ink and printing?
Doesn’t need further explanation and it is self explanatory.
2. The strength of language at the time when the Scripture was descended?
Semite Languages (Hebrew, Aramaic and Arabic) were written without short vowels and without differentiating the most letters while writing. When the Quran was descended, Prophet Mohammad made the proper grammar for Arabic. And, from this proper Arabic, proper grammar was inserted into TaNaKh during 12th to 15th century. Thus, till then TaNaKh was preserved by the Rabbis through memorization only. There were TaNaKh in book forms, but only the Rabbis can read them from memory.
3. How the Scripture was/is preserved?
Quran from day 1 is preserved by memorization. Millions of Muslims have memorized the Quran, and every year Millions more memorize it. The printed Quran serves as check and balance on the memorization. If one is not careful than subtle changes can be made to printed Quran without anyone knowing and the original will be lost.
4. Common people should be able to read and write the same language today and in future the original the Scripture was revealed?
Quranic Arabic is same throughout the years as it is today and will be the same tomorrow. Common people are able to read and write Quranic Arabic. Translations are discouraged.
Best regards,
Mohamed.
Auslander,
My God, I had no idea there were so many Right Sector — and I’m guessing those not in fighting condition are still capable of doing some damage (bullies always pick on the weaker anyhow, right, and in this case that would mean any civilian, anywhere). Whew.
And your knowledge of Blackwater certainly supports the hunches I’ve had about them — what *do* you do with people who were trained to be, what, better monsters than they already were, when there’s no fighting to be done? We deserve them, they’re ours, but I don’t want them either! Put them all on a desert island somewhere and let them go after each other? Otoh, and I’m saying this through tightly clenched teeth, Blackwater, the jihadis, Right Sector types from wherever, they’re all going to serve Uncle Sam in new hot spots everywhere for the foreseeable future. Auslander, I’m so, so sorry.
Dearest WizOz,
@ WizOz: Where did you take that from? From the Kh we know that the Assyrians deported 10 (ten) of the twelve tribes of Israel, leaving behind the tribes of Judah and Benjamin, who were latter deported to Babylon and where from returned at the time of King Cyrus to Judaea.
Moses was married to Zipporah the daughter of Jethro, the priest of Midian. He used to love the Midianites tribe. His annihilation of the Midianites tribe is well documented in the TaNaKh.
@ WizOz: And talking about the Virgin Mary and the family of Imran, would you care to explain why several Suras the Qur’an confuse Mary the mother of Jesus [Miriam in Hebrew] with Miriam the sister of Aaron and Moses, and daughter of Amram which is about 1400 years off?
Bibi Virgin Mariam (as) is from the Family of Imran. We don’t know her father’s name. In Islam father’s name is always retained and never given up, even after marriage. We know she was given in the care of Zacharia. Where as, Mariam bint (daughter of) Imran is Moses (as) and Aaron (as) sister. Quran never confuses the two Miriams. Bibi Virgin Mariam (as) is always held in the highest esteem and almost mentioned in every chapter. Chapter 19 is named after her too. Allah seems to be in awe of Bibi Virgin Mariam (as).
Please quote these verses you are concerned about and I will try to reply you. Muslims consider The Holy Quran A Living Miracle. It is with me right now, and not a miracle performed some centuries ago and then recorded in some book.
@WizOz : Is the same Archangel who spoke to Mary and to Muhammad?
Yes. What does Malachi in Hebrew and Malika means in Arabic. It doesn’t mean Angel, it means Messenger. God’s Messenger to Mankind (Prophets). Muslims believe that the translated Gospel into Greek, Roman, English … is corrupt.
There are no capital letters in Semite Languages. The whole TaNaKh is full of “sons of elohim”, meaning “sons of macho”. And, “daughters of men”. Even when Jesus is accused of blaspheme, he reminds the accusers that they call themselves “sons of elohim” too.
In Islam Archangel Gabriel is the Ruh Quds (Holy Spirit – bad translation) and not Allah.
The Jew like the Sunnis believe Creation vs Non-Creation. Therefore, God cannot be Creation. For example man is creation, therefore God cannot be man.
The Shia go one step higher on the ladder. Existence vs. Non-Existence. Only God Exists and everything else is Creation. Therefore, God cannot be Creation, everything we know, even emotions such love, hate and so forth are all Creations.
For this reason I keep on saying if one doesn’t understand the Shia God, one thinks that Shia:
Worship A Robot God.
Best regards my friend,
Mohamed.
Ron Chapman,
Agreed on Columbus, slave trading and Hollywood — but again, Ron, slavery was more a class issue and poor whites, the majority here, didn’t own *anything*, especially in the South. I have a lot of Native American ancestry, and while Columbus’ treatment of my people was beyond hideous, uh, very few whites indeed earned any medals for good behavior — so again, it’s the same damned behavior, Jews and Christians alike. Jesus’ message somehow still hasn’t gotten through to most American Christians. Saker addresses this, a lot, in terms of the difference between Latin and Orthodox Christianity, but Protestantism here started off pretty awfully in this regard and in all too many cases has only gotten worse. So again, it’s awful, but it’s not just Jews. Also, very few of my people at this point have a problem with white people here calling themselves American — we have our own names for ourselves. Also, we have other, much bigger ongoing complaints, and they have nothing *whatever* to do with Jews.
Haven’t read that Hazard circular but I do know the history of the era pretty well (also Lincoln’s words praising Karl Marx and the worth of labor) so I’m not at all sure it is genuine. In any case, it didn’t need to be bc central banking had already been an issue here since the first days of the Republic. This stuff just reeks of The Protocols, a forgery again unneeded by Jews (bc they already understood and agreed with everything in it), but very convenient for Jew-haters.
I haven’t the time to respond to the rest of what you wrote right now but will get back to you later. However, the main point I want to make, Ron, is that you’re a Jew-hater (not that there isn’t a whole lot to hate) but your very hatred of one group of people, for whatever reason, however richly *a lot* of them may deserve it, is still hate, *and the very same hate* you hate *them* for. Yeah, ok, they’re successful, manipulative, fill in the blanks, but you’re hating them for being in a club you can’t join. And besides hating hate with hate, that kind of stuff always makes me worry that your club was, is or is gonna be, every bit as nasty. I AM an American, and even though it hasn’t happened yet, I do believe we can all learn to live together. We’ve just all got to follow the same rules, dammit. And frankly, some of the best ever were developed here, just not by anyone white.
My friend WizOz,
We all have ruh (spirit, soul, knowledge). Ruh is Creation. Therefore, in Islam God cannot be Ruh al-Quds (The Holy Spirit, Soul, Knowledge …).
In Islam Archangel Gabriel is considered Ruh al-Quds.
Best regards,
Mohamed.
Ron Chapman,
House was nefarious and Wilson equally reprehensible but this “private conversation” is, frankly, garbage written way after the fact by conspirators against the New Deal. No one talked or thought like that then and I’m not even going to bother reading it. As for the role of the City of London (aka Rothschilds), I will look at that — plenty of WASP bankers here played a role also but I don’t doubt there was A LOT of funny business behind all of it. But I’m not going to blame Jews for the whole thing, bc hatred, ruthlessness and greed know no national boundaries: they don’t need to be taught, they’re inside all of us. And in America they were part of our national mother’s milk: the second generation of Puritans in Massachusetts Bay had lost some of their parents’ religious fervor (while making a lot of money), and decided all by themselves that the best way to determine if you really did have God’s grace was — ta dum — You. Got. Rich. Also, while Roosevelt may indeed have had some Jewish blood, he himself may not have known it, it was so far in the past. But Truman and Eisenhower certainly didn’t: OT given names were very popular here in just about every Protestant family. Trust me on this.
And Ron, I’m sorry, I can’t even read your third comment — the Vatican is corrupt in so very many different ways but John Paul I hardly needed to be murdered by a Bolshevik Jew, there were plenty of reactionary Italians in the Curia. Meanwhile, I’m far more likely to believe that John Paul II was in cahoots with the CIA to deliver Poland, than that he “was replaced by a double who was programmed to perform his pro Judaic actions.” Just because somebody writes or says something assuredly does not make it true. And finally, I fervently hope the fighting will stop this year and the truth, whatever it is, will come out. But I’m not holding my breath. Peace.
Andrew,
YES! But why call them a *reverse* pogrom — do Jews own that word, too?
Ron,
You essentially said to WizOz that all Jews are evil. I agree that many are, that the Holocaust is being played as a scam, and cannot find words to describe the depths of my negative feelings for the State of Israel. However, bottom line, what do you suggest we do about it?
Anonymous 10:28
“In Soviet times women would carry string bags in their handbags – just in case.
Above perhaps its time once more to prepare the cleaners – just in case.”
That voltaire.net piece is truly horrifying (I had nightmares about the guy last night, for gosh sakes), but could you please explain about string bags and cleaners? Whatever they are, we’ll probably need them here at some point too.
About masonic issue in Catholic Church. In previous Code of Canon Law from 1917:
Can 2335: Affiliation With Masonic or Similar Societies. Those who join a Masonic sect or other societies of the same sort, which plot against the Church or against legitimate civil authority, incur ipso facto an excommunication simply reserved to the Holy See
And now:
http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_19831126_declaration-masonic_en.html
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And this is how ends when common folks like james are starting interpret Scripture on his own. Without any authority on this matter. I highly recommend here “Commonitory” written by Saint Vincent of Lérins in V century. He was dealing with these kind of tricks with Holy Scripture.
Apostolic sucession of West and East branches of the Church are being negated, because this guy thinks so. From the begining to our Times no one was questioning this truth even if christians were divided. The real madness is that thousands of protestants thinks their are infallible in interpretation of Bible. There is no logic behind their actions.
Andrew,
@nora
“And finally, I fervently hope the fighting will stop this year and the truth, whatever it is, will come out. But I’m not holding my breath. Peace.”
That put a smile on my face. But you could cross your fingers.
The truth has now come [to light], and falsehood has withered away: for, behold, all falsehood is bound to wither away 17:81 Koran
mindfriedo
Salam brother WizOz,
I did some more research on Bibi Virgin Mariam (as). Her father was also called Imran. Here are some verses from Chapter 19, called, Mariam. The Chapter is in her honor:
019.025 “And shake towards thyself the trunk of the palm-tree: It will let fall fresh ripe dates upon thee.
019.026 “So eat and drink and cool (thine) eye. And if thou dost see any man, say, ‘I have vowed a fast to (Allah) Most Gracious, and this day will I enter into not talk with any human being'”
019.027 At length she brought the (babe) to her people, carrying him (in her arms). They said: “O Mary! truly an amazing thing hast thou brought!
019.028 “O sister of Aaron! Thy father was not a man of evil, nor thy mother a woman unchaste!”
019.029 But she pointed to the babe. They said: “How can we talk to one who is a child in the cradle?”
019.030 He said: “I am indeed a servant of Allah: He hath given me revelation and made me a prophet;
019.031 “And He hath made me blessed wheresoever I be, and hath enjoined on me Prayer and Charity as long as I live;
019.032 “(He) hath made me kind to my mother, and not overbearing or miserable;
019.033 “So peace is on me the day I was born, the day that I die, and the day that I shall be raised up to life (again)”!
019.034 Such (was) Jesus the son of Mary: (it is) a statement of truth, about which they (vainly) dispute.
Al-Qur’an, 019.025-034 (Maryam [Mary])
Please note the above verse 019.028 “O sister of Aaron! …..
Shia believe that none of the Prophets committed sins, as they are role models for mankind. Also, if they made errors, then the Message will contain errors too. Sunni believe the Prophets committed minor errors.
Anyhow in TaNaKh, Prophet Aaron (as) fell from grace. Arabic is a very subtle language, and Quran is very careful in wording. I might be wrong, but I believe that other Marian the real sister of Aaron had some other problem, and she had some disease too.
So, here is a dig on Bibi Virgin Mariam (as) by other people to compare her to sister of Aaron. Thus, comparing her both to Aaron and his real sister.
So what does Bibi Virgin Mariam (as), the best of the Character does. It is in the following verses:
019.029 But she pointed to the babe. They said: “How can we talk to one who is a child in the cradle?”
019.030 He said: “I am indeed a servant of Allah: He hath given me revelation and made me a prophet;
… I have posted above for you from verses 25 to 34.
Best regards my friend,
Mohamed.
Victoria Nuland is a Jew too.
Leaked phone calls seem to have something obvious in common.
G’day Nora,
I do not say that all Jews are evil.
I say the Judaic creed, the Talmud, is evil & that anyone (whether they say they are Jews or not) who lives the Talmudic creed, is transmitting negative energies into our world, the collective results whereof are plain to see.
Many who say they are Jews may not understand the Talmudic doctrines they thus support are negative and harmful to them and everyone else. Intention is relevant to the transmission of negative energy but given the substance and intent of Talmudic doctrine, anyone steeped in Judaic law will emanate the negative vibrations those doctrines are designed to elicit.
Evil is simply an absence of love. The opposite of love is fear. Talmudism inculcates fear in order to socially engineer Jews to be fearful and consciously seek the protection of the herd. But ethno-centric separation from the rest of humanity also means separation from ALL THAT IS, ie the Creator and Creation.
The Pharisees sought to create a permanent political fiefdom among simple Judeans & it is the intention of today’s Khazarian and Sephardic neo-Pharisees because they need a firmly mind controlled ethnio-centric “tribe” in order to pursue their subjugation of the rest of humanity & the planet.
Lack of love results from ignorance which leads us to make mistakes (sin) in thought & action towards self, others and Creation. The solution to ignorance is knowledge ie truth. Esu Immanuel (aka Jesus the Christ) said that we shall know the truth & the truth shall set us free. And so it is.
We are not here to “save” Jews or anyone else. Incarnation on Urantia (Gaia) is a learning experience wherein we experience material existence in order to learn to THINK and evolve by making mistakes and learning from them. The ultimate aim is to learn to love unconditionally which is godlike.
Human experience will eventually lead everyone to the truth which culminates in ‘being’ love ie like the Creator. That evolutionary process is very long but is decreased or increased by decisions and actions. The process is said to entail many, many incarnations & a huge passage of “time” in physical existence.
The problem for Jews is that their Talmudic ideology is totally materialist, ego-centric and ethno-centric. It thus creates separation and hence psychic isolation not ONENESS with others & ALL THAT IS.
So, our task is to learn to love everyone and everything including Jews, as they are, while clearly perceiving the truth about them & the world. We cannot help anyone to understand self & the world if we lack such knowledge. So our primary task is “self improvement”. But once we begin to master self we will naturally radiate truth and love to others and thus our whole world moves towards light and life.
The reason I analyse the attitudes & activities of Jews is because they appear to be the prime irritant designed to force humanity to think & grow by understanding & overcoming the negativity Talmudism infuses into our environment.
The reason I communicate my understanding of the effects of Jews & Judaism on humanity is twofold. First to help gentiles to SEE the truth so that they may set themselves free from the negative, materialist world created by Talmudic ideology. Second, so that Jews may also be confronted with the truth about their situation, attitudes and actions.
Humanity is seeking super consciousness. Heightened consciousness will only be attained through increasing awareness of self, others and the way our world works.
One of the fallacious memes impose by Talmudism is the idea that criticising the behaviour of others is negative and hateful, yadda, yadda, yadda, That is bullshit. So is the “money” meme and all the other mentally enslaving memes imposed on humanity over millennia. The kindest thing we can do for each other is to be aware of who we are & to say what we think, not what we think they want to hear.
Blessings,
Ron
“Nora said…
Auslander,
My God, I had no idea there were so many Right Sector — and I’m guessing those not in fighting condition are still capable of doing some damage (bullies always pick on the weaker anyhow, right, and in this case that would mean any civilian, anywhere). Whew.
And your knowledge of Blackwater certainly supports the hunches I’ve had about them — what *do* you do with people who were trained to be, what, better monsters than they already were, when there’s no fighting to be done? We deserve them, they’re ours, but I don’t want them either! Put them all on a desert island somewhere and let them go after each other? Otoh, and I’m saying this through tightly clenched teeth, Blackwater, the jihadis, Right Sector types from wherever, they’re all going to serve Uncle Sam in new hot spots everywhere for the foreseeable future. Auslander, I’m so, so sorry.”
Nora, right sector has been a problem for a long time. Their forefathers fought with the Germans, not against them. It is their grandchildren and great grandchildren who are doing these hideous acts now. The fighting went on in west Ukraine until the early ’50’s against Bandera’s people. Even way back then the Baderas were not nice people. They are just as bad, if not worse, today.
You will find no one who hates War more than a warrior. You will find no one who understands that sometimes you have to fight than a warrior. I gave up long ago trying to understand the rogue soldiers. I’ve known and trained and trained with some rather ‘unusual’ boys in my days serving. Most were great men and great soldiers and I have fought alongside some of them. That being said, there are always bad apples in any vocation. Problem is in my past freely chosen vocation the bad apples get the blood lust in them and just can’t stop for whatever reason. What I do not understand is these children in right sector. A goodly number of them are 18, 19, 20, 22 year old children. What in God’s name made them like they are at that young age? They certainly did not grow up in wartime, nor did their parents. What did this to them? I have no idea.
A true soldier, like any man, or woman for that matter (Sorry, I’m an archaic man. Women do not belong in combat or close support units. Period.), has to have a sense of honor and integrity. Without that, you are not a man and you will not make a good soldier. Many of the professionals in units such as Blackwater do, indeed, have the sense of honor and integrity. Some do not, just as in regular military units you will always find a few who are lacking those attributes.
What do we do with them? You tell me. Blackwater is far from the only professional unit floating around, and no, I never sold my sword arm. The majority of them are professional soldiers who do not belong to a national army. They are useful in that countries can hire them and have them do what the country can not or will not do. The vast majority of them will retire and, like me, return to civilian life and be completely normal. Those who are the monsters will generally not stop until they are dead, and trust me, death comes to them eventually if they become monsters and continue to fight. The reality is those who become the monsters and are completely out of control will more often than not be done in by their comrades. They are dangerous to unit integrity and put at risk everyone else in the unit. The really bad boys rarely live to collect their pensions.
Auslander
Salam Dear WizOz,
In the Sunnah of Prophet Mohammad (saws) there are umpteen of Haddiths (Sayings), where Prophet Mohammad (saws) used to say to Imam Ali (as), you are same to me as Aaron (as) was to Moses (as), but after me there won’t be any more Prophets.
Or, why are sad O’ Ali (as), because you are not coming with me. I am leaving you in-charge, as Moses (as) used to leave Aaron (as) in-charge. You are same to me as Aaron (as) to Moses (as).
Shia use these Haddiths. Tons and tons of other Events and Haddiths claiming that Imam Ali (as) is/was the rightful successor to Prophet Mohammad (saws) and thus Divinely chosen.
Best regards,
Mohamed.
I believe that any society will have a top 1% of some sort. For example in Mandarin system China with 150 million population there were about 15,000 civil servants (much less than 1%).
But then there is a difference between wise/decent societies and ignorant/wicked societies.
I further believe that the degree to which the 1% is corrupt is directly in proportion to the degree to which the general population tolerates corruption on their own level in their lives.
As is well said, all that is required for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing. In terms of civil society, the good is promulgated and protected within various culturally transmitted institutions such as gender roles, religion, manners, rule of law, honour codes, speech conventions and so forth (all of which in turn can either foster wisdom or confusion etc.)
In other words, we all get exactly the elites we deserve.
The real madness is that thousands of protestants thinks their are infallible in interpretation of Bible.
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In fact, it’s a bitter irony that they began protesting the Pope and have ended up with several millions popes.
Auslander,
Very interesting. I remember one conversation I had with a West Point graduate where he told me what he’d been taught there about “brutalization”. I’d never heard the word used that way before but what he was talking about is the importance in military training, and practice, of maintaining enough displine over your men that they essentially never cross over that line — because at that point they can never really come back and are useless. Well, I’d personally add a few other words as well, but you get the point. How does this happen? I’m guessing it’s not just poor discipline or training, it also has to do with the individual in question — and as an aside I’m also guessing that a LOT of guys who come back from our military adventures with PTSD are reacting not so much to what they saw or experienced, as what they *did*. I.e., they may have done awful things but the fact that they’re now horrified means they *weren’t* brutalized — it’s the ones who have no problem with it that are the problem! And I guess I’m glad that true professionals, uh, solve that problem; even rescue folks sometimes get dogs that can’t be rehabilitated and have to be put down. (Interestingly enough, with animals the worst aggression is often caused by fear, and I’m wondering if, with a lot of those monsters, fear isn’t the issue with them too. Which means maybe those young kids — I’m offering this as an explanation, not an excuse! — came from abusive backgrounds? Nature plus nurture, of course, but ultimately we’ve got to find ways to deal with angry, out-of-control people, especially if they’re armed. Using them for political ends just means their “disease” will metastasize throughout society.
Tharpa,
“I further believe that the degree to which the 1% is corrupt is directly in proportion to the degree to which the general population tolerates corruption on their own level in their lives.”
Omigosh, yes! You’re absolutely right, in everything you said. Thank you for stating it all so clearly.
We have a lot of work to do.
Ron,
You do not sound like the same person. Your other comments seemed obsessed and utterly filled with hate for a group you stated were evil, and now you’re talking all we need is love.
Well, I do believe that, and I also categorically refuse to tar ALL members of ANY group with the same brush, I don’t care who they are. If you read Israel Shahak, one of the biggest take-aways is that the average Jew was under the thumb of the rabbis since there were rabbis; obviously a whole lot of them still haven’t learned to think for themselves. But that’s still not all of them, it just isn’t. In that regard, why don’t you try reading Philip Weiss, http://mondoweiss.net/2014/05/rothkopfs-jailbreak-captivity.html and then follow the link to Foreign Policy. The typical Jew, imo, is more to be pitied than feared: paranoid, clueless and easily led, basically a sheep — exactly like most Americans post 9/11. And while we need to make laws controlling the behavior of ALL members of the 1%, whatever their religion or nationality, so that we can somehow redevelop a polity in which all of us participate, have our voices heard and derive fair value for our work (I’d also eliminate dual citizenship and anything else that contributes to Fifth Column behavior), there’s still no need to single out Jews as *the* embodiment of evil. It’s still the harmful behaviors themselves that need to be identified and stopped, not an entire group of people whose most prominent members embody them.
Considering history, how wars are usually started and the few usual suspects who benefit from them, does anyone here think that Putin’s role could be that of a “false opposition”? Is Putin as much of a puppet as Obama? I have been pondering the idea and I must say that there is decent grounds for discussion.
@Мудра сова: This is not much different from the “right of return’ laws of many nations; check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_return
Except that no country EXPELS locals. Also, if you convert to Christianity you lose your right to immigrate to Israel. Can you think of any country having a law of return for all *except* Jews?
If you lose a war, you lose a right to inhabit a territory.
Wrong. Wars are fought against *governments* not people. In fact, the Law of War specifically *forbids* the deportation of civilians.
An estimated 12 million Volksdeutsche fled or were expelled from central Europe after WWII. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volksdeutsche).
This was an abominable and disgusting crime for which nobody was ever punished and which has never been denounced. I would personally demand that a Right of Return be granted to all those who were deported and to their descendants.
I buy the apartheid argument, but not the genocide for the simple fact that the proportion of citizens of Israel who are Muslim (proxy for Arabs) has grown since 1948, and the growth rate of the Muslim population is still higher than the growth rate of the Jewish population. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Israel
Dude! This is hardly the result of the Israelis not committing a slow-motion genocide. If they had their way, you can be sure they would switch to a fast-motion genocide, but for political reasons they cannot. So their slo-mo genocide is outpaced by a fast-motion growth of Palestinians, much to the chagrin and outright dismay of Israeli Jews…
Saker: Third, Israel violates about every norm of civilized behavior and international law in existence. Are you telling me that you did not know that? Is that really news for you? Or do you agree with it?
The point is: does Israel have the right to exist as a state for the Jewish nation? And my answer is: of course it does.
And mine is an emphatic “of course it does NOT!” As any civilized state, Israel should be a state of its *citizens*, not of a race or a religion.
As a thought experiment, please pick between the following two extremes: a) all the world’s Jews live in Israel; b) all the world’s Jews live in diaspora. Which one would you rather pick?
Simple. Jews should live wherever it is legal for them to live. Like any other group, if the hold the citizenship or residency in country “A” let them live in peace in country “A”. If they don’t like it, or if they don’t feel welcome, let them do like any other person would: try to immigrate to another place. My basic belief is simple: Jews are just like everybody else and they should have the same right and duties as everybody else. Last time I checked, the Hare-Krishnas, the Bahai or the Zoroastrians did not need a special country for themselves. Nor do I hear anybody say that there should be an racially/ethnically “pure” country for race/ethnicity X. Why in the world should Jews have a different set of right or obligations?! And one thing is for sure: they have NO right to expel, terrorize, genocide (slow or fast motion), oppress or otherwise mistreat anybody.
Bottom line: I categorically refuse to grant Jews ANY special status. Not a good not and not a bad one. I consider Jews to be just and exactly like any other group, religion, ethnicity, or tribe with the same set of right and duties. Period.
How can anybody sane possibly disagree with such a self-evident truism?!
Cheers,
The Saker
@Ron,
G’day mate, good on you! Of course it was a rethorical question. We know that we live in the Orwellian society where 2+2=millions!
@Incidentally it was not possible for Germany to have “Holocausted” more than 173,000 Jews at Auschwitz because the meticulous German records taken and concealed by Stalin’s Bolshevik from 1945 until 1990, evidence that a total of only 173,000 Jews were ever sent to Auschwitz
Check https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkZVDpJPsI8: “Report of Auschwitz – trial in Kraków in 1948 reveals 300.000 prisoners died in total”
Nora
I think the most important point of the ‘mercenaries’ being in Ukraine has been missed.
For 23 years the Ukraine Armed Forces have been ignored by the Powers That Be in Kiev. The military budget was looked upon as simply a cash cow that could be looted at will, as the reality is the entire national budget was looked upon in the same manner.
I have lived in Sevastopol for 10 or so years. I am fairly observant and could not help but see the blatant difference between the Ukraine and Russian fleets and military personnel based here from the moment I set foot in this fair city.
We live on the north side of the harbor near St.Nikolas Church. Belbek Aerodrome, which was an exclusively Ukrainian facility, is about 7 klicks north of us. During the Orange Plague rule nothing flew from Belbek, I mean absolutely nothing. Anything that flies from there can be heard here. With the advent of the Yanukovich Regime there was, from time to time, a few training flights. When we invited Russia to come to our aid in March (we activated a treaty signed in 1993 between the Autonomous Republic of Krimea and Russia), Belbek was finally taken by kind of storm but not violent. Of the 39 airframes based at Belbek from the Ukraine Air Force, only 4 could fly, one trainer and 3 Migs. When the equipment belonging to Ukraine was returned to Ukraine shortly after we returned to the RF, the 4 were flown back to Ukriane by Ukrainian pilots. The other 35 were shipped back by rail. The Ukraine Fleet got the same treatment, units that could move on their own were sailed to Odessa by Ukrainian skeleton crews, the rest towed back to Odessa. Ukraine refused to take back a few of their fleet units, they were so rundown as to be useless.Those few units, I think half a dozen, are now at the scrap yard at the foot of the harbor in Inkerman, being cut up for scrap.The ground units were in the same condition. Many of the armor units, tanks and personnel carriers, had not moved in years. Many had to be towed to the rail sidings and lifted by crane on to the flat cars for repatriation to Ukraine.
What does this total disregard for expensive equipment tell you about the soldiers and sailors? They, too, were ignored to a great extent and often not paid for months, literally. Many of the lower ranks subsidized their pay by working at odd jobs outside of base, often on their serving time. Of course their officers got a cut of the pay. Morale was and is at rock bottom in most units. Training was minimal if that.
A very few elite units may fight and some have, but the vast majority of the Ukraine Army will not fight, especially against their fellow countrymen. They have usually refused to shoot and some have been executed for that refusal. That is why Kiev is relying on the ‘national guard’, read right sector, and has had to hire Blackwater to at least help with organization and logistics in addition to doing some fighting.
I do not know what the final outcome will be up north but I think in light of the lack luster at best performance of the Ukraine Armed Forces, including the ‘national guard’, and the far less than stellar actions of the junta in Kiev, Ukraine will be dismembered and be gone as we knew it, UN, EU, NATO and US be damned. Reality is reality and Ukraine is not and never was a unified country. With several hundreds of civilians killed by right sector in the last two weeks alone, the junta has effectively shown that they have not a clue of how to run a country and the junta will eventually fall, probably violently.
Did not read the comments — only want to express my support to the author “the Saker” — yours is an accurate view of the whole phenomenon surrounding racism direct at and coming from Jews in general. I would like to thank you for your so-called rant.
The same formula that you have observed can be applied to all nations and all racism.
A racist is simply someone at a lower level of spiritual development — who has gotten past individual selfishness and bias, and then expanded his/her circle to those he associates with himself and the traits he worships. Of course, in time that is revealed as illusion.
Racism is an unsustainable state of being and an illogical line of thought. It is a kind of spiritual masturbation.
This can be proven by seeing the attacks of racists on others that are in fact “higher” in racial authenticity vis-a-vis the race they claim to idealise. When this occurs it is rather ironic and certainly educational. There are those who have attacked me personally because of my seemingly non-European and non-Aryan persona. This is highly ironic. I have found that those who are most racist are maladjusted individuals who have deep issues regarding their self-identity. There is a war inside their head until they chose to embrace a certain idealised identity. Those who are actually fully of that identity do not need to act so extremely. Hence “Racism” in the modern context often is a social disease that results from a deep crisis in identity.
(Of course there are other kinds of racism that develop, but indulge me and allow me to make my point…)
Think of Ukrainian Fascists as an example. How can they utilise the symbolism of former German Naziism? They are Slavs. By definition (of Nazis) they are “sub-humans.” How then can they espouse racially oriented Fascist views. There are no people more similar that Russians to them be it genetically, linguistically or culturally. This means that either they reject their genetic relationship to Slavs or re-orient/redefine it as they are the real Slavs” and Russian are hybridised bastards; laughable logic in either case.
Zionism is another case in point. Zionist Jews hatred of Arabs is in part their own extreme hatred of part of their own self-suppressed identity. Again there are no people more alike to them than Arabs. Fellow Semites, closely related languages “Shalom aleihin” vs. “Salaam aleikum” shared cultural and historical heritage.
Scratch the surface of any racist and you will find he is working hard to maintain a lie within himself.
Saker, you make a very crucial valid point that is key in unraveling the lie that is ideological racism.
I look forward to your future posts and hope to see your articles in Asia Times Online or elsewhere.
G’day Nora,
I am not responsible for your perceptions of me.
I am unaware of having said that all Jews are evil. If I did say that, I was mistaken and withdraw the assertion.
What I tried to do and meant to do, was describe the behaviour of Judaics generally while indicating some of the negative effects of that behaviour.
I also sought to emphasise that I considered the Talmudic ideology to be the source of their anti-human behaviour which causes so-called anti-Semitism.
While humanity continues to swallow the meme that Jews are persecuted by evil racists, nothing will change. That is why the HoloHoax has to be exposed, That enormous Blood Libel of the German nation has to be seen for the calumny it is, if humanity is to wake up to the truth. No? Why not? If you want to say that the Holocaust did happen you need to prove it. Hearsay by millions of Jewish “Holocaust Survivors” and the testimony of tortured Germans whose families were threatened doesn’t count, does it?
Questions
What specific evils do YOU perceive to be being inflicted upon Jews by alleged HATEFUL racists? Judaics seem to be flourishing from where I sit. Also, why is labelling someone “a hateful racist” not a hate crime itself?
HOW are the Judaic 99% being victimised by all these alleged evil Jew haters like me? I don’t see any denigration or victimisation of Jews anywhere, other than “anti-Semitic” concoctions by Jews and their agents. Really, it is time for thoughtful people to let go of the ‘poor victimised Judaics’ meme.
I did infer that anti-social and anti-human behaviour was undertaken by millions of Judaics who act as members of Israeli hasbara, sayanim, Mossad and/or the IDF. I also noted that millions of Judaics occupy Palestine and are ethnically cleansing its inhabitants while stealing their land and resources. I consider such behaviour to be amoral and to run contrary to protestations to the contrary by Jews and their supporters. And I don’t accept that saying such things is a racist hate crime.
Moreover, as I have said previously, WHY is it racist and anti-Semitic to demonstrate that Jews are NOT a race and NOT Semites and that the Holocaust didn’t happen?.
I am a Shemite so what would be the logic of calling me an anti-Semite.
The reason I communicate these ideas is that I consider that there is a global conspiracy by Judaics to take over the entire world and to cull humanity in the process, enslaving the survivors.
If I am mistaken in this view, perhaps you or someone else can explain why Judiacs appear to control the US, Britain, the EU, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and many other countries. That explanation needs to take account of the the relatively tiny number of Judaics available for the task. The Saker has said:
‘there is AT LEAST as much non-Jewish evil out there as there is Jewish one.’
Given that there are about 13 million Judaics in the world and some 7.3 billion non-Jews, that statistic implies an incredible imbalance. I maintain that it is because the Judaics are bent on world domination involving a New World Order and One World Government under Judaic control. What’s your view? Is it a coincidence or has g-d chosen them for the job?
Incidentally, to stop harmful behaviours by Judaics you would have to eliminate the ethno-centric Talmudic ideology and the exceptionalist societal structures and indoctrination processes they use. That would abuse their human rights.
My approach is to encourage people to SEE the negative nature and effects of Judaism. Perceiving the truth about Judaism can set both humanity and Judaics free. But as they say: ‘The truth will set you free but first it will piss you off’.
Perceiving the truth about Judaism can benefit humanity generally AND Judaics. Why? Because people will not consider changing their ideas and behaviours unless they perceive them to be personally harmful
Blessings
Ron
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Ron,
You’re conversing with yourself, not me. Let me state this as simply as possible: ALL hate is wrong. If you truly believe in God (and I notice you use the notation for Him used by “Judaics”), you will follow His two great commandments. You do know where to find them, right?
Well said Saker: both the blue comment, and the black.
It seems, sadly that this post wasn’t really about the phone leak. Just an excuse for a good ole-fashioned Russian anti-semitic, hate rant right out of the Protocols of Zion.
With the Ukraine “politically correct” crowd, the kind of misstatements and ignorant Chrisitan hate comments like “Satanic” which brand your thinking as medieval and antiquated, this is all fashionable. Hence all the butt pats.
When a Israeli, Zionist and Jewish country pursues imperialist, genocidal and aparttheid comments, hatred is in vogue, in fact de riguer.
But when a Christian, genocidal country which has conducted and incited two world wars against humanity, there is no mention of either race of religion.
But with your crowd Saker, history only started within the last decade.
A shout out and thank you to Mohamed who indeed recognizes our common humanity and religious commonalties instead of paying lip service to it, like our “friend” Saker, who sometimes seems to do his level best to conduct and bring back the meidval walls constructed against Jews over the centuries in Europe.
Most of the time you are a good analyst Saker. But when it comes to your rants against Jews, 80% of whom are secular in the US and constitute in reality one of the most assiumilated groups throughout the world, I urge you you to control and contain such rants in the future. They cast an ugly pall over your blog, Russian Insider and discredit your intellectual integrity in my opinion.
@ Lucretius:But when it comes to your rants against Jews, 80%..
Oh, bullshit, not the over-used “anti-Semite” crap. Find something better. This is plain boooooring.