This SITREP was written for the Unz Review: http://www.unz.com/tsaker/putin-sends-chechen-special-operation-forces-to-syria/
Very interesting news today: according to the journal Izvestia, Russia will be sending operators from the so-called “Chechen” special forces battalions “West” and “East” to Syria to “guard the Russian installations” in Khmeimim and Tartus. According to Russian sources, these two battalions have been converted into a “military police” force which will be fully deployed by the end of December.
This news leaves many fascinating questions unanswered.
First, even though the Russian sources make it sound like we are talking about two full battalions, I suspect that this is not the case and that a few companies will be formed from elements drawn from these battalions. Why? Because these battalions are part the backbone of the Russian security system in the Caucasus and that to use such elite forces just to guard 2 military installations makes no sense.
Second, this does beg the question of what these “Chechens” (actually a misnomer – see below) will really be doing Syria. The only circumstance in which it would make sense to send them to protect the Russian bases in Kheimim and Tartus would be if a massive attack was expected against these installations and no other reinforcements were available, which is clearly not the case.
Third, these two battalions are mostly, but not exclusively, composed of Sunni Muslim operators. That yields obvious advantages. Furthermore, these battalions have had a history of successfully defeating the Wahabi insurgency in Chechnia. This might be crucially important because Wahabi Chechens also compose some of the best forces available to the Daesh/ISIS/US command in Syria.
So what is really happening here?
First, it should be stressed that these two battalions are really quite unique units. While formally they are just part of the larger Russian special forces community, they have a unique history and unique reputation. Traditionally, Russia has always relied on elite Muslim shock forces, and most of those have been Chechen. This was true before the 1917 Revolution as it was true after. For example, the so-called “Muslim battalion” played a key role in the invasion of Afghanistan. And 2008, the Chechen battalions “West” and “East” played a key role in the Russian counter-offensive against the Georgian forces. To make a long story short: not only are these battalions known for their amazing courage and skills, their appearance often sends the opposing forces into a panic.
Second, Ramzan Kadyrov has been pouring huge resources, with the full support of Putin, of course, into the creation of a unique special forces training facility Chechnia were special operators from all over Russia are coming to learn, teach and share their experience. As a result, the so-called “Chechen” units are, in reality, a mix of special operators from all over Russia who have been specially trained to deal with Daesh-like insurgencies.
This means that regardless of the actual size of the force sent to Syria, to use it to protect installations is total overkill and nobody in Russia really believes that all these lads will be doing is manning check-points. Their true mission will be something very different.
Some Russian analysts have been speculating that their real function will be to clear Aleppo from the remaining al-Nusra/Daesh/ISIS forces. Maybe, but I doubt it. I find it much more likely that these man will be sent in to train Syrian special forces in advanced counter-insurgency intelligence operations. For one thing, the Russians have admitted that they have Chechen intelligence agents infiltrated into Daesh. It would only make sense now for the Russians to share their experience with their Syrian counterparts. The key reason here is that rather than fighting the war for the Syrians, the Russians needs to enable the Syrians to fight their own war.
Alas, the actual record of the Syrian security forces has been, according to Russian sources, checkered at best and the Russians are, reportedly, unimpressed. While the Syrians do have some elite combat units, they do not have high quality intelligence operatives. What is needed in this case is not just a good solider (say, like a Russian paratrooper or a US Ranger), but a fully trained combatant and a fully trained intelligence officer, something similar to the CIA’s Special Activities Division or the Russian “Vympel” force. The kind of training needed to prepare for such a function is much more complex, costly and time-consuming than what it takes to train a good paratrooper or Ranger. My guess is that while the “Chechens” will, when needed, provide immediate support for the Syrians, they will also have a longtime role in organizing an effective counter-terrorist/counter-insurgency force.
Of course, I might be wrong. If I am, then the other reason why these two battalions have been sent to Syria is to directly participate in combat operations against the Takfiris. We know that Putin sent some secret letter to Iranian President Rouhani. Could it be to coordinate a surge in Russian and Iranian operations in Syria? If so, then sending in the “Chechen” special forces would make sense, especially to keep the Turks at bay if and when needed.
Whatever may be the case, the decision to send in the “Chechens” is clearly a major development and the sign that something important is being prepared.
The Saker
PS: Ramzan Kadyrov has issued a denial saying that there are no battalions “West” and “East” in Chechnia that is TECHNICALLY true since these two battalions have now been included in the 8th mountain and 18th motor-rifle brigades. It is also true that the original commanders of these forces have been replaced, but the operators still exist and Kadyrov has admitted that they were already in Syria.
So several hundred men of the highest order of fighters, for training. Sounds very inspiring for the Syrians whose best unit, I believe, is their Tigers.
I think a third possibility might be a mixture, integration of Syrians with these Chechens to mobilize against the hard core, die to the last man units of ISIS.
If the Turks present an issue to deal with, they use tanks very effectively in large formations. So, air power will be used to keep the Turks where they need to be kept.
If what we see is American and other Western special operators in Aleppo with the last terrorists, then presenting the Chechens to deal with them might be more than the US can take. A deal to end all fighting may be in the works.
We have another report of Syrian forces halting in Aleppo. It could be the Chechens were just too much for the US to fight.
“We have another report of Syrian forces halting in Aleppo. It could be the Chechens were just too much for the US to fight.”
New Year is coming & the two-faced beast always sends confusing and contradictory signals:
https://www.rt.com/usa/369856-us-syria-200-troops/
http://www.crystalinks.com/janus.html
We are indeed in a transition period and these times are always vulnerable for “surprises”…
Indeed, US deploying 200 more special forces in Syria ‘to fight ISIL’ – they are now 500 – is worrying:
US sending 200 more special ops soldiers to Syria – Pentagon chief
Is the final battle be on the ground between Russian Chechen and US soldiers? What a waste of lives…
We have to keep in mind that Russia has the official approval of the Syrian government, unlike the US and her allies. That means, the legal basis is on the side of Syria and Russia.
Or perhaps this deployment has somehow connected with killed nurses, chechens are just a perfect force for the task amongs hostail muslims.
“American soldiers in Aleppo” are more likely mercenaries from Poland, South Africa, Ireland, NZ, Romania … what ever. However their might be some discomfiture if few CIA guys are trapped there. More likely US and Russia will make a nice deal (favoring Russia) and Putin let them go. Anyway CIA during it’s history has been mostly painfully amateurish. What really makes me wonder how Putin (edited MOD) messed things up in Kiev before Maidan coup. He should have blocked it. It’s surely one of his big mistakes so far.
UK has admitted that its special forces are directing artillery (among other ‘advisory’ services) for the KSA in Yemen. I doubt they are showing restraint regarding a similar presence in Syria.
“What really makes me wonder how Putin (edited MOD) messed things up in Kiev before Maidan coup. He should have blocked it. It’s surely one of his big mistakes so far.”
President Putin and his advisers may have calculated that 1) Ukraine was hopelessly divided with one half of the country aligned with the EU and the West and the other with Russia. Let them discover the reality of EU accession dreams, and 2) Western intervention in Ukraine would justify reclaiming Crimea. It is difficult to overestimate the importance of Crimea for Russia. It simply cannot be lost, and 3) How does one effectively counter a Western colour revolution in full swing without resorting to violence, which could have got very messy and would hand an easy propaganda victory to the West? The choices were not easy but the resulting sanctions have strengthened Russia to the point where it could be one of the few countries in the world to be entirely self-sufficient within one or two decades.
I believe Putin was glad to wash his hands of the Ukrainians, basket case as it is and always will be.
Crimea ? Was never an issue, until the illegally installed Ukrainian Government outlawed speaking Russian and began targeting Russian speaking people’s, and disenfranchising them.
Quiet rightly, Putin got worried about his base in the Crimea and when the good folks of the Crimea applied for inclusion to the Russian Federation it was eventually accepted.
I do recall a statement of Putin’s, that he did not wish to accept the responsability of the financial economy of the Ukraine, which is what he’d be obliged to do, if he chose to become involved with their internal squabbling. He even pointed out the cost to West Germany when the wall fell and the re-integration of both Germanies, still not resolved today.
I believe he made the right decision in that regard.
Yanukovic messed things up in Kiev.
This was the third maidan that has happened in Kiev and there will be more Ukraine is like that.
“What really makes me wonder how Putin (edited MOD) messed things up in Kiev before Maidan coup. He should have blocked it. It’s surely one of his big mistakes so far.”
Let’s put it this way: Kiev being Kiev, the Ukraine being the Ukraine, Putin’s hands were tied. But more importantly: The Maidan was the last Color Revolution in Russia’s sphere of influence, ever. This is what counts.
Putin’s hands were tied by the Russians, the citizens and the government. The government in 2014 was decidedly afraid of sanctions. Most thought Russia’s economy would collapse under the sanctions regime. Putin had to take the measure of the West’s sanctions. Now we know the resilience and creativity and management of its currency (with help from China) and the MIC adjustments, and payment of external debt by State Owned Enterprises and large corporations all was handled well. Recession bit deeply, but Russia is coming out okay and growing again. The stock market is up 40%. Foreign investment is flowing in.
Simultaneously, the oil prices were crashed by Saudi Arabia. That took down the revenues into the Treasury. But the low debt levels and budget cuts were brilliantly managed, and the public generally accepted tightening their belts. Putin’s popularity stayed high.
The Patriotic swell felt by the return of Crimea to the RF and the celebration of the Great Patriotic War victory added to the unifying of the nation.
All that positivity culminated in the absolute destruction of the Ukies in Debaltsevo and then followed with the stunning entry in Syria of a spectacular military leapfrog 1000 km beyond the Russian border.
The mindset of the Russian nation is now quite different in every way than it was in 2014 when Maidan occurred. We can see and anticipate that if a color revolution ignites in Belarus (as the CIA and Ukie nazis are working to generate), the Russians will move in a lightning bolt to utterly crush the movement and expose its management for the world to see.
Russia is unafraid of anything the US and EU/NATO can do. This was not the psychology in 2014.
The Kalibr missiles, the performance of the AeroSpace forces, the GRU and SVR Intel and the relationships with allies in the ME, the outstanding dominance of Russian armor and technologies has assured the government and military that they can do anything the nation needs to defend and expand its superpower status. Syria will be a great victory.
The Turkish Stream is on. Kaliningrad has nukes. Turkey is surrounded. Iran is reliant. Syria will be preserved. And the world has renewed faith in Putin and Russia.
The Double Helix now includes joint naval exercises in the very disputed So China Seas. SCO is expanding with Iran wanting to be a first tier nation, with Turkey contemplating moving up the ladder, and with India and Pakistan formally fully vested. SCO is poised to become a more present shield for Russia in the soft underbelly Central Asia states.
All the while the Ukies have gone from a weak military that could fight for days at a time to a better trained and better equipped military that can only fight for hours. Its morale is non-existent. The Army of Donbass is so improved in training and leadership and equipment that the Ukies will break in hours if they attack. The ATO will continue until Trump ends it. It is not something Russia can change. It is an American proxy operation. They enjoy killing women and children. They pay very well for the warcrimes.
But then, when the US stops the payments, with no distraction in Donbass, the nazis will feed on their own. The Rada fistfights will turn to firearm duels and Kiev will be a war zone. We may eventually see it become a Sarajevo where snipers kill people trying to cross streets or turn into a Beirut where whole neighborhoods are destroyed in a dystopian apocalypse.
Kiev, Ukraine, maybe other neighboring NATO vassals will self-ignite in their Storm Trooper programming and devour one another. They have no jobs, they have no real economies, they can only hate. But the Russia of 2017 will be so overwhelming that the nazi animals will turn inward and maraud their own. Killers have to kill, rapists have to rape. Cancer devours its host.
That is why Putin did not “take” Ukraine when offered. It was terminal.
You don’t take cancerous transplants and survive. Ukraine has to die, however long that takes. Then, the part that matters, Novorossiya can rise and live. It may take a decade. But it will be worth the wait and sacrifices.
Larchmonter, i love to read your analyses. I read today on DONI News that a Ukrainian energy expert speaking on the Schuster program said that if KIev stops the gas flow going to europe then the NATO troops will occupy Ukraine and seize control of the pipelines. I always thought that the NATO trainers in Ukraine were there in order to seize the Nuclear power reactors to keep the NAZI’s from blowing them up. If Kiev turns into a Beirut then what will happen to all the nuclear reactors?
When an international calamity like their nuclear reactors becomes an issue, the UNSC will intervene, a swift joint effort will be arranged.
Ukraine, thus, will lose its sovereign status, and the logic of dissolution will proceed. The resulting Banderstan will be small, largely demilitarized; Kiev will be a protectorate of the UN. Novorossiya separate and recognized as sovereign.
It’s a plausible scenario.
While I don’t disagree with any of your points, I think that there is another reason. Since the two Russian military bases in Syria are going to become permanent, there may also be a PR element in this decision. Using the Chechen Muslim’s pool as permanent guard of these facilities, would integrate far better with the local population and would be less likely to be viewed as a Christian occupation of Muslim land. Sure, right now Russians are hailed as liberators, but in the future you will always have someone accusing them as infidels.
Setting up troop rotations coming from mostly Muslim units, would be a wise idea in my opinion.
They could be as well sent there as an adittion to negotiatian package with US. A presure like this resonates as saker said that chechens presence make some panic, we have seen in Georgia
It’s also psychological in the sense the Russians have raised the stakes on the ground. Not threatened to do so but have done so.
Very interesting article. There will doubtless be many views on this deployment, which is of itself very powerful. My view is that these forces will work with the Kurdish forces to strengthen opposition to Turkeys geopolitical territorial grabs. It seems possible also that such a force might have the ability to cripple the Barzani/Erdogan oil business operating from Iraq/Syria. Either way I would consider Turkey the target.
Turkey’s territorial grabs… suuuuure…
I have President of the CFR Richard Haass stating that Turkey is increasingly at odds with it’s so called allies and “”Increasingly Turkey is gathering behind the Assad Government”- that’s a direct quote and yet still those who lurk around alternative media sites can’t see the that which is in plain site–
http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.ca/2016/12/cfr-president-richard-haassgap-growing.html
Could this move be a direct response to Erdogan’s sending in to Syria 300 of his Turkish elite special forces units, to to prop up the FSA and the islamists, to try to boost up the stalling advancement on Al-Bab?
https://southfront.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/So8rGxH.jpg?x50264
ISIS is half way down the road of taking Palmyra.
It’s been widely reported that Aleppo fell thanks to cooperation between Russia and Turkey.
Apparently some type of arrangement had been worked out between the two parties.
The actions taken impeded the Aleppo thugs..
The placement of the Chechens is undoubtedly to ensure peace is kept, generally speaking.
http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.ca/2016/11/this-is-end-of-syria.html
a link to an external article:
“The thrust to take all of Aleppo came for other – mainly three – reasons, says a well-informed contact in the Syrian armed forces.
These three reasons are only mentioning one at this time
(1) the withdrawal of Turkish support for the armed opposition….”
” (1)Turkey’s withdrawal: The main reason for the Syrian army’s thrust, says my contact, is that the Turkish government has withdrawn its material support for the armed opposition inside Aleppo. Essential supplies from the Gulf Arab states and from Turkey had come across the border crossing at Azaz. (That’s done)”
link back to an earlier report of Russia and Turkey making an agreement wrt Aleppo
Thankfully I have some well informed commenters!
” RescueNovember 29, 2016 at 10:59 AM
Yes. The Turks removed all their terrorist proxies from the SW Aleppo front & moved them to N. Aleppo. Later they have moved many more from Idlib to their occupation zone. They have also prevented the rebels inside & out from receiving more arms. Encouraged rebel civil wars ect. This has weakened the rebels, & is the cause of the SAA imminent liberation of Aleppo.”
RescueNovember 29, 2016 at 5:09 PM
The removal of Turkish backed terrorists from
the Aleppo frontline was public news. All analysts are now claiming this is the reason for Aleppos liberation. Pro-rebel accounts are furious with Turkey, right now.
Understand Syria is taking Aleppo because of Turkish assistance!
Richard Haass of the CFR understands that quite clearly
“Increasingly Turkey is gathering behind the Assad Government”
There is a real absence of fact based knowledge, I can’t comprehend this?
– the only thing that comes to my mind is heavy Israeli/US/NATO disinfo presence on line
Why would Syria want to strengthen the American backed Kurdish forces?
So they can annex more territory and the Americans can maintain their military bases on this annexed territory?
Syria would want to assist the US backed Kurds in annexing more territory so the Kurds can eventually connect with their besties in Israel?
Israel 2.0
Does that make sense. That Syria would weaken itself in the long run?
shakes head, shrugs shoulders and walks away: perplexed
Penny: that makes sense. Erdo is still due to VVP and maybe, he is also going through some “the road to Damascus (coming to the senses) transformation”…
For Erdogan, it is not so much a road to Damascus as having his balls in a vice, with Putin giving the screw a tweak when he steps out of line.
On one side, Erdogan has his support/voter base who think Erdogan is leading them to an Islamist/Turkmen/Ottoman empire. What his support base does not see is Erdo’s balls in Putins vice, So Erdo has to balance between sound bites for his support base and Putin turning the screw up a notch. expect some high pitched speeches from Erdogan.
Erdogan controls a good percentage of the Syrian jihadists, and Putin has control of Erdogan.
Peter AU: That’s most likely the “dry reality”. But Putin knows, that the screwing should be a bit subtle, so that such a conceited & vain persona as Erdo could pretend, that he is playing his own “free will game”.
“Save the face” concept has probably never been such an entertaining formula, as it is during these contemporary fluid times… ;)
Saker “My guess is that while the “Chechens” will, when needed, provide immediate support for the Syrians, they will also have a longtime role in organizing an effective counter-terrorist/counter-insurgency force”
That makes sense too.
“If so, then sending in the “Chechen” special forces would make sense, especially to keep the Turks at bay if and when needed”
I think there is plenty of coordination on that front already
‘Madness must end’: US lawmakers introduce bill to cut aid & funding for terrorists
https://www.rt.com/usa/369720-stop-arming-terrorists-act/
“Introduced to the House on Thursday by Democrat Tulsi Gabbard from Hawaii, the legislature aims to put an end to the widely-reported US practice of indirectly sponsoring terrorism. In particular, the act seeks to make it illegal for any US government agency to assist extremist groups directly or indirectly in any way shape or form, be it through the sale of weapons, field training, or intelligence assistance.”
The stubbornness that US (and also France, UK and partially, also Germany) manifest regarding Aleppo fate and their “worries” for the last bunch of trapped terrorists inside a continuously narrowing piece of the city (masked, of course, with their care for the innocent civilians) let one to suspect a precise thing.
That trapped inside there are many of their “assets”, both in term of very embarrassing documents that the terrorists have and threat to reveal if not helped and/or, that a not small number of US, France, UK special units directly employed there are also trapped inside.
I have the same view, plus, the Chechen units maybe sent there for this scope – to deal with the foreign “assets” and with the eventual Chechen Wahabi fighters.
Interesting article with some useful links to others on the impending defeat of the israeli-americans in Syria.
Losing Aleppo: Western Countries Panicking Over Their Lack of a Plan B in Syria
https://sputniknews.com/politics/201612091048367238-west-russia-aleppo-syria-planb/
“Commenting on the West’s threats to impose sanctions on Russia over Syria, former Canadian diplomat Patrick Armstrong told Radio Sputnik that Western leaders are panicking because they “don’t have a plan B in Syria.” The Western establishment has yet to understand that the global trend has changed, the analyst noted.”
Putin does it again with A total PR coup of sending in Muslim, kick a– fighters to protect and train just as the NWO ramps up their foreign Christian mercenary forces to help Daesch destroy and dismantle an independent Syria.
These guys know what to do. They know how to clear out the Sunni Stalingrad.
The deep victory, I think, consists of restoring ancient Christian, Muslim, Kurdish and Druze communities, religious, cultural and historic places, very similar to what is being presently done in Palmyra.
Having Syrian Russian and Chechen troops and experts participate in that endeavor is the ultimate defeat of entropic forces.
Regards, Spiral
I can say just “Amen”. But even after the outside powers stop meddling their dirty devilish fingers in that country, the whole healing process will last at least for a generation. And at some places, where the Christian & other minorities genocide has been almost complete, that may never happen, while keeping the historical continuity of the “same” people (who can remain the “same” after such a hell…).
Entropy requires much less energy, than (re-)creating order. Therefore the whole “Ordo ab Chao” concept could be just a pipe dream of some sick minds…
A “surge” in Russian and Iranian forces is exactly what I’ve been suggesting is needed. A couple of battalions of specialists in spec-ops/intelligence is nice, but what they really need is another 10-20,000 troops from both Russia and Iran. Russia, Iran and Syria need to finish off Al-Qaeda in Idlib and ISIS in Raqqa and bring the civil war back down to a guerrilla insurgent problem. More troops would speed things up and reduce the need for extensive aerial bombing of civilian areas.
No Military police, no guards, no trainers, no nothing, but guaranteeing there will be costs for any American “boots” on the ground.
https://www.rt.com/news/368962-wasp-warships-navy-mediterranean/
The other day I found this video and started wandering through the grateful memories of Syria. It was a great travel where I had a really happy time.
I wonder if the end of this nightmare could be near and would be possible to rebuilt this eternal city, although, already, nothing will be the same as before….I can remember all those ancient buidings in the old city transformed into little charming hotels….also can remember that ancient hamman just the left side at the foot of the Citadel with its atmosphere of other ages…and, how not, the epic covered souk….
But the most vivid memory was about people´s mood, so quiet and stressless, and also so hopefull… I can remember, my last afternoon watching from the window at my hotel room in Damascus, intoxicated by the still warm breeze of late September, deeply regretting my leaving, wondering, at the sight of those veiled elegant women moving themselves down in the street, so gracefully and slowly, if one day I would return, as I had planned…..Now, I wonder, if it will be possible to find that mood again….one day…..Loved that tempo, a lot, so as to return and, perhaps, to stay…
Aleppo before and after
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45SeCsGl5mM
The Hamman Yalbhuga ( They are saying in this page that is almost destroyed…. A pity, one of the best tradintional scrubs in the Middle East…. )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hammam_Yalbugha
Thank you, Elsie, for sharing that travel memory. I always so enjoy your travelogues and wish you would write more. You do it well. Since I was a child pouring over the National Geographic magazines (we had years of them, they were too special to be thrown away), I have dreamed of visiting such beautiful and old places. Maybe in some next life.
Thanks GrandmaR, you are so kind, but I only wanted to introduce the video, I fear that this blog is not the place for travelogues. You, seeming to love travelling even when you could not have traveled a lot, enjoy it, but people comes here mainly for geopolitical information and I think these things only are liked by some eccentric romantic men and women ( who are really few in this blog ).
I do not believe that you will not be able to get to Syria when it is again rebuilt and all those jewels restored, I do not know what your age is, but I usually met in my travels people quite aged still travelling the world, even in complicated places like the Everest Camp Base ( you needed to see that group of scandinavians breathing like fishes out of water, but, what the hell, even in the eventual contingence of losing life this way, well, I thought, it´s good to die with the boots put on!… )
So, do not give up, dear madam, meanwhile you could travel to Iran, for example, who has an ancient beautiful culture too. Obviously, Syria, the time I visited her, had no complication whatsoever with women´s attire, a very tolerant society no doubt.
I agree the training of qualified Syrian troops to handle over the border or Kurdish insurgency intrusions might be the goal for after the Syrian nation is put back together and Russia and other allies largely return home.
Putin speaks honestly to an American liar about NGOs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akLBItPCcv8
Everything is just fine is itdo you think.?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-09/michael-moore-warns-something-crazy-could-happen-stop-trump-becoming-president
Everything is just fine is it do you think.?
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/12/07/obama-urges-soldiers-to-question-trumps-authority-criticize-our-president/
Everything is just fine is it do you think.?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-09/obama-orders-intelligence-community-conduct-full-review-2016-election-cybersecurity
Perhaps these Chechen forces might care to meet up with this E.Aleppo resident head-chopper assistant propaganda creator.
Some recycled propaganda here but white helmets have vanished -what a coincidence that BBC propaganda is fairly muted lately.
In the video there is one line of truth though:”This camera is very dangerous. It’s a lethal weapon that can be heard by the whole world”
And the Hegemon knows it along with the BBC and other assorted western MSM vassals
Muted BBC calling! Muted BBC calling!
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-38270453
I googled them and I got to tell you those ‘Chechens’ are indeed a rough looking bunch.
the turks have their own agenda, so do the americans (let alone all the other players and conspirators). their agendas may agree on certain points but differ on others, like the kurdish existence for example between the americans and turks. due to the complexity of this war and the myriad agendas involved, it is safe to say that it gets more complicated with time and more dangerous. as i have said before this war is a zero sum game. one side has to lose and one side has to win. no political agreement can end this war, no compromise, no middle ground. too much is at stake, kingdoms, governments, dynasties, boarders and the whole future of the middle east. this is why i do believe and have all along that this is the start of WW3.
Amazing comments…..”what granny likes – granny dreams “….so many are so obssessed with seeing muslims fight each other, that they forget their own vulnerabilities and weak spots….
Chechens going to die for Russia’s deal with Iran and (indirectly) with Israel and USA? Are those Chechens orthodox-christian terrorists, maybe? Better think how rotten is the deal with the Sassanid empire and what will happen when it blows up in the Russia’s face……..think of the Russia’s Central Bank….