Yesterday, I watched with interest a talkshow called “The Right to Know” which featured an hour long interview with Sergei Lavrov (those who understand Russian can watch it here). It was an interesting exchange between Lavrov and five Russian reporters. It was not important enough to warrant translating it all into English, but I want to share with you something which I had noticed in the past but which was powerfully expressed during this conversation.
Predictably, the topics included the civil war in the Ukraine, the status of the investigation about the shooting down of MH17, sanctions against Russia, the expansion of NATO, the negotiations in Minsk and Russia’s engagement with the BRICS countries.
All all these topics, the Q&A had a similar format. One of the reporters asked Lavrov to comment on what appeared to be a dead-end situation and Lavrov confirmed saying “we tried our best, but to our great regret, that had no effect”. What was so interesting is that while the reporters were expressing bafflement that things had gone so far, Lavrov’s reaction was “yes, you are right, this is truly hopeless”. The overall effect was one of a PTA meeting discussing some hopelessly stupid and incapable student. Except the “student” in this case was the entire West.
For example, about MH17 the reporters voiced their amazement at the sterility and vagueness of the recently released report. They noticed that while the entire western media went into a full hysteria mode with headlines like “PUTIN THE TERRORIST!!!!” or “ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!” they all apparently totally forgot that the investigation was still ongoing. Lavrov’s reaction was “yes, I agree, well, we tried at the UN Security Council, we submitted our questions, we wanted a full ceasefire with a thorough investigation of the debris, we offered our own information, we spoke to the Malaysians, we wanted to speak to the experts, but they spent three weeks in Kiev talking to the Junta officials,, we still have questions but we are the only ones who apparently are still interested in getting a full transparent and accountable investigation going” (this is no a quote, but a faithful paraphrase, I think). The sense one got from listening to this was “frankly, they are hopeless, what else can we do?”
Touching upon the sanctions, the reporters said that many countries were surprised at the speed at which Russia turned away from the West and began building relations with Asia, Africa, Latin America and the Indian Subcontinent and, again, Lavrov replied “yes, we were even surprised by the pace of events ourselves, but we had no choice”.
This is not the only show which sends the same message. The sense that I am getting is that Russia has given up on the West. Sure, she will continue talking, and she will try, against all evidence, to elicit some adult responsible behavior from western politicians, but nobody in Russia is holding his/her breath.
On another show (Sunday Evening with Vladimir Soloviev) the participants remarked that Germany had taken the lead in putting pressure on Finland, the Slovak Republic and the other nations who did not want to adopt more sanctions. Again, the message was “forget about the Germans, they are hopeless”.
I believe that there is a sincere and widespread sense of disgust and hopelessness in Russia towards the EU countries. As for the USA, they are mostly seen as a hate-filled messianic lunatic who will do anything and everything to harm Russia in any way it can, no matter how crazy, absurd, useless and hypocritical.
All this builds up to a consensus that while war with the USA and NATO must be avoided, of course, there is nothing much else to be gained from making much efforts. Many politicians now say “our foreign policy has been way to fixated on the West and that needs to be stopped – our future is elsewhere”.
The recent adoptions of sanctions against Russia are a perfect example of that. While I few hardcore pro-US liberal figures complain, I kid you not, that the French ‘belon‘ oysters will not be available in Moscow, most people see that these sanctions are a blessing in disguise as they force Russia to sever links with the West, something they believe should have been done long ago. In the short term, the western sanctions will “bite”, especially on some high-tech items, but by and large most people understand that being dependent on the West for such items was the real mistake in the first place.
Again, the prevailing sense is one of disgust, bewilderment, and fatigue. Though somebody as diplomatic as Lavrov will never say the, the general reaction is clearly “you guys are both hopeless and in decline; we don’t need, you, goodbye”. This is said without anger, mostly with sadness, really.
I don’t think that Russian diplomats will make a big anti-western statement at the UN or anywhere else. The opposite of love is not hatred, but indifference. And Russian officials will continue to speak of “our partners” or even “our friends”, but while this nice sounding rhetoric will continue, relations with the West will gradually cease to be a priority for the Russian diplomacy, business community and even general public. In fact, Russia is already building a multi-polar world and if the West wants no part of it – tough. The Russians know that the West cannot prevent the emergence of this new world, and they don’t really care if they refuse accept this reality or play by the new rules.
One more thing: the Russians are most definitely upset about the very aggressive NATO stance because they – correctly – interpret it as a sign of hostility. But, contrary to what a lot of bloggers say, the Russians have no fear of the military threat posed by NATO. Their reaction to the latest NATO moves (new bases and personnel in Central Europe, more spending, etc.) is to denounce it as provocative, but Russian officials all insist that Russia can handle the military threat. As one Russian deputy said “5 rapid reaction diversionary groups is a problem we can solve with one missile”. A simplistic but basically correct formula. Putin said the very same thing when he clearly spelled out that in case of a massive conventional attack by “anybody” Russia would engage tactical nukes. In fact, if NATO goes ahead with its stupid plan to deploy forces in Poland and/or the Baltics I expect Russia with withdraw from the IRNF Treaty and deploy advanced successors to the famous RSD-10 (SS-20). As I mentioned before, the decision to double the size of the Russian Airborne Forces and to upgrade the elite 45th Special Designation Airborne Regiment to full brigade-size has already been taken anyway. You could say that Russia preempted the creation of the 10’000 strong NATO force by bringing her own mobile (airborne) forces from 36’000 to 72’000. Having thus taken care of the threat, the Kremlin will simply turn to more important business elsewhere.
Among the many misconceptions we absorb during our training (I cannot call it “education) we, in the West, have a tendency to view our part of the world as the center of the planet, some even would say the indispensable and only truly important one. This can be seen in our systematically Europe or US centered maps of the world, to our quasi dogmatic beliefs that nobody matters as much as we do. This is wrong. In fact, while the AngloZionist Empire is on slow but steady and ineluctable decline, the rest of the world pays it the needed lip service and basically moves on. If the training facilities we call “schools” had any educated educators we would start hanging China-centered maps of the world in our training rooms, and we would tell out young trainees that nobody takes the so-called “western values” seriously anymore. Not because they are not good, but because clearly we, in the West, don’t take them seriously in the first place.
Obama announced a “pivot” towards Asia but, in a typical AngloZionist manner, all this pivot really meant was more military forces and more pressure to obey the Empire’s demands. Unlike the US, Russia did not announce any “pivot”, but Putin already met with Xi Jinping four times this year and both sides have declared that their strategic partnership was the strongest it had ever been in the history of their relationship.
Russia is really turning her gaze to China, Latin America, Africa and elsewhere. Her diplomats will continue to talk, smile, speak of “partners” and “friends”, but I believe that we are witnessing a historical event: for the first time since the 13th century, Russia is turning away from the West again and betting her future with Asia (and the rest of the planet).
The Saker
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Was all this really from Lavrov? Sounds like things I posted.. Although he did not say the rabid bulldog Germans have done nothing for humanity.. But hopeless is close enough..
Although when Putin looked into Bush’s eyes and there was love or was it hell or what not, I did wonder.. Lavrov was also a sycophant.
Things would have much easier for Russia. Nothing is irreversible.. But because of things Russia did they lost trust with Iran, the contract with India for the 250 fighter jets and other weapon systems, the Chinese seem happy to be able to get stuff now they could not before but that don’t help anyone. Africa and South America really dont care for Russia or should I say, the Russians would go Chile– is that in Australia? The USSR let its proxies influence SA and Africa. Libya was doing a great job until it got betrayed.. Its kinda like the US might be on its last legs but so is Russia. Its Ironic that friends of the US or Russia has the upper hand over both of them. India for example can ask anything from unkle sam and you got to hear what some americans call indian leaders, heck they even refused to grant a visa to the current PM, searched the indian defence minister at the airport so many times, in the end he refused to go to the US any longer. Now you have the US, China and Russia, arms wide open, bearing gifts and purring, will you marry me..
It should have been a slam dunk! with a little forthought. But all 3 had dropped the ball so many times I got to wonder..
Thank you Saker.
May your efforts be blessed. You have lent your voice to the countless millions whose voices remain stifled in our turbulent times.
Western “values” are the bane of our present day civilization. We must turn “eastward”, towards China, Latin America, India.
The future of the planet depends on this. The Anglo zionist kleptocracy has defiled our planet. We need to reset our compasses to turn away from this scourge.
Thanks also to American Kulak, Nora, Mohamed, wherewolf, and many others whose comments I love to read.
Enjoy your weekend folks!
Lavrov is brilliant. The US has the absolute bungler John Kerry. Advantage Russia
Esp. Once the attacks on Syria commence
Excellent analysis of this very recent ‘pivot’ in tone and words by Russia. I had to read and reread and reread Lavrov’s recent comments as their reflect a complete change as least outwardly and verbally:
bit.ly/1qM5wVh
This whole sage of course was more or less precipitated or more correctly accelerated after what I called “The Pivot of the Century”:
http://www.escapetopatagonia.com/ThePivotoftheCentury.pdf
This is not going to end with some “happy endings”.
The “Axis of the Righteous” (USUKIsrael and their All-Lies) cannot back down as they are collapsing financially, economically and morally.
Russia already has shown its willingness to use tactical nukes in Georgia 2008. This was something that was not reported in the Western media as they moved a few of their tactical nukes into Georgia in August 2008 as a “clear and present warning” to USNATOIsrael NOT to get involved with or without their “smart weapons”.
So, Saker or the Russian person is 100% correct that if that 10,000 or 20,000 or 30,000 USNATO Rapid Response Force is going to do any attacking against Russians or Russian forces, they will be nuked with one or two nuclear missles.
The Saker said:
Russia is turning away from the West again and betting her future with Asia (and the rest of the planet).
And not a moment too soon.
Let the AngloZionist Empire rot.
That is certainly the right policy.I’ve always thought Russia should be making many of the products they import.And develop her trade with the East.But still we have the Ukraine crisis to be dealt with.Today the Ukies shelled Donetsk market and surrounding villagers fled their burning homes.At least 20 civilians are dead and 24 injured.In Luhansk thousands turned out for a City Day concert and praised Russia at it.As it was ending the Ukies also shelled that city.Though no one was hurt.Ceasefire or no fake ceasefire the Ukie guns must be driven away from those cities or those people can’t ever feel safe.
Well,
I bet that the “International Community” is going to find itself very isolated in a not so distant future.
Sounds terrible to think, but maybe a few years of economic misery and hardship is what is needed to change the mentalities in the West, and through that its leadership and its politics. Learn humility and find the way to the return of old true values.
If Jesus son of Mary (God bless) came back today I have no doubt the western people would be unanimous in crucifying him.
Salam
Hope it will shake off few Al antiputin oligarchs successfully with this move as well and build up its own technology and farming not just depending on China as it was depending on EU
China could be tricky with changes as well
I wonder why it took you so long to come to this conclusion.
As i said, it is enough to listen to western elites and think tanks for only several minutes to understand this.
Not to mention that Europe today is not Europe from 10 years ago.
This is not Europe of Gerhard Schröder and Jacques Chirac.
France has rejoined NATO and now intends to work with the US for interventions in Africa and the Middle East.
The balance of Europe has also changed, now it is more russophobic due to the embrace of the eastern europeans by the EU.
And the german policy appears to be “drang nach osten” for cheap labour and resources in Eastern Europe.
http://rt.com/news/187584-russell-tribunal-obama-ukraine/
Well Saker, judging by the length of your post, and the resignation in its message, “unimportant” is not the first word that comes to mind. It may be the public announcement of the “watershed moment” for Lavrov himself, Russia, and the world going forward.
Throwing the keys over the fence and walking away may be anti-climactic, but it is the last page in a chapter being turned.
I strongly suggest that this is a candidate for translation, at least in excerpted form.
Erebus
“anonymous”
Many thanks to the Saker for another informative and timely analysis.
Sergei Lavrov is another impressive political leader from Russia. Of course, our planet is small enough, and the Russian government’s closer cooperation with China and the rest of Asia and Latin America represents a natural balancing of its political and economic options. Eventually, Europeans will gain their independence from the US/Zionist military financial empire (which is in decline), and restore their relations with Russia.
Speaking of the West, and specifically the United States, one has just to look at Camden NJ, Detroit MI, and a hundred other heartland cities in America, to understand the terrible gutting of America by its owners. These cities are depopulated, with vacant lots where houses once stood and communities once thrived. Detroit, and Camden, appear to have lost a war.
Within America, prosperous employment and useful education and a Democratic Republic has been replaced by, record unemployment, a huge gulag prison system with 3 million prisoners, gambling and blood sports; a poor education of bare literacy, and a totalitarian Oligarch controlled political circus, which sports 2 twin political gangs, who, as in Professional Wrestling, pretend to fight, but do exactly as they are told.
Within the belly of the beast we have circulated, the IMAGINE flier in an effort to rouse opposition to the Oligarchs, who have caused such damage at home and abroad.
* will post IMAGINE flier separately
Peter J. Antonsen
Part 1 (of 2 parts)
IMAGINE In memory of the 50th anniversary of the Oligarchs’ murder of J F Kennedy
“We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal… governments are instituted among men, deriving their powers from the consent of the governed; that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles…”
The above is a portion of the Declaration of Independence, written by Thomas Jefferson.
We submit the following facts to the citizens of the United States.
The government of the United States has been a Totalitarian Oligarchy since the military financial aristocracy destroyed the Democratic Republic on November 22, 1963, when they assassinated the last democratically elected president, John Fitzgerald Kennedy, and overthrew his government. All following governments have been unconstitutional frauds. Attempts by Robert Kennedy and Martin Luther King to restore the Republic were interrupted by their murder.
A subsequent 12 year colonial war against Vietnam, conducted by the murderers of Kennedy, left 2 million dead in a wake of napalm and burning villages.
In 1965, the U.S. government orchestrated the slaughter of 1 million unarmed Indonesian civilians.
In the decade that followed the CIA murdered 100,000 Native Americans in Guatemala.
In the 1970s, the Oligarchy began the destruction and looting of America’s middle class, by encouraging the export of industry and jobs to parts of the world where workers were paid bare subsistence wages. The long decline of the local economy has led to the political decline of the working class, as well as the decay of cities, towns, and infrastructure, such as education.
The impoverishment of America’s middle class has undermined the nation’s financial stability. Without a productive foundation, the government has accumulated a huge debt of $trillions of dollars. This debt will have to be paid, or suffered by future generations. Concurrently, the top 1% of the nation’s population has benefited enormously from the discomfiture of the rest. The interest rate has been reduced to 0, thereby slowly robbing millions of depositors of their savings, as their savings cannot stay even with the inflation rate.
The government spends the declining national wealth on bloody and never ending military adventures, and is or has recently conducted unconstitutional wars against 9 nations. The oligarchs maintain 700 military bases in 131 countries; they spend more on military weapons of terror than the rest of the nations of the world combined. Tellingly, more than half the government budget is spent on the military and 16 associated secret agencies.
The nightmare of a powerful centralized government crushing the rights of the people, so feared by the Founders of the United States, has become a reality. The government of Obama/Biden, as with previous administrations such as Bush/Cheney, operates a Gulag of dozens of concentration camps, where prisoners are denied trials, and routinely tortured. The Patriot Act and the National Defense Authorizations Act, enacted by both Democratic and Republican factions of the oligarchy, serve to establish a legal cover for their terror.
The nation’s media is controlled, and, with the school systems, serve to brainwash the population; elections are won by the gang that spends the most money, and the people are intimidated and treated with contempt.
How can we fix this mess?
Thomas Jefferson favored the continual renewal of the American Revolution by each new generation creating a new constitution (and, thereby, a new constitutional government). This process would empower the new generations and serve to revive the quality of government in a process of Permanent Revolution. Jefferson wrote:
“Every constitution then, and every law, naturally expires at the end of 19 years. If it be enforced longer, it is an act of force, and not of right. It may be said that the succeeding generation exercising in fact the power of repeal, this leaves them as free as if the constitution or law had been expressly limited to 19 years only.”
Jefferson further explained his approach to the next generation in his letter to James Madison:
“I set out on this ground, which I suppose to be self evident, ‘that the earth belongs in usufruct to the living’:”
“Then I say the earth belongs to each of these generations, during it’s course, fully, and in their own right. The 2d. Generation receives it clear of the debts and incumberances of the 1st. The 3d of the 2d. and so on. For if the 1st. Could charge it with a debt, then the earth would belong to the dead and not the living generation.”
Thomas Jefferson, the theoretician of the first American Revolution, may play the same role in the long overdue second American Revolution. The next generation, through self empowerment, must clean the stables and resurrect a new Republican government that will restore our freedoms and an economy of prosperity and social justice.
The next generation:
Must write a new constitution, establishing a less powerful government which will ensure President Franklin Roosevelt’s Four Freedoms, freedom of speech and expression, freedom to worship God in ones own way, freedom from want “which…means economic understandings which will secure to every nation a healthy peace time life for its inhabitants…” and freedom from fear “which…means a world-wide reduction of armaments…”
Students working on state levels can form committees of correspondence which will write and conduct a statewide vote upon each new constitution. Then, these committees can select representatives who will convene on a national level and write a constitution that will be presented, through a nationwide referendum, to all citizens of the United States to adopt, or reject.
Once adopted: The new constitution will become the law of the land and of a free people. They will establish a government, hold elections, begin to direct traffic, arrest criminal politicians of the tyrannical oligarchy, and, in short, repair the damage of the previous totalitarian governments.
For the Democratic Republic!
Sons and Daughters of Liberty
florent.defeu@gmail.com
http://slavyangrad.org/2014/09/14/a-voentorg-in-the-donbass-cauldrons/#more-3694
Such good writing. Inspiring for the optimism of purpose of mission despite cynicism over the “ceasefire”
Dear Saker,
Just briefly, I agree with your overall assessment both of Lavrov’s interview and of the general mood in Russia. Viz some of your earlier points, yes you are right there are some people within the Russian establishment who still hanker for a close relationship with the west. However I don’t think it is fully appreciated how isolated within Russia these people are increasingly looking. I have it on the best authority (I cannot be more explicit) that even some individuals who you would doubtless classify as Atlantic Integrationists, specifically Ulyukaev and Shuvalov, have undergone a sea change in attitudes over the course of this year. Note that there has not been a single important resignation from the government over the course of the Ukrainian crisis and in public at least they have all remained united.
Full victory for the ‘Empire’,that was their goal…sad but true.
Indeed, Europe does not respect the values that so vocally has tried to sell worlwide, with armies imposing the real weltaschaung.
So better take heed of the latter and keep on moving to the design of a non hegemon based world:-)
Cheers,
Patagonian
It’s apparent there’s about nothing Russia could do short of Putin being removed and marched thru the Red Square tarred and feathered on his way to giving a press conference admitting his culpability for invading Ukraine and shooting down MH17, declaring European values to be the bestest thing ever, allowing NATO to have all of Ukraine including Crimea, dissolving all BRICS economic agreements and Eurasian security treaties, giving BP and Exxon controlling interests in Gazprom and Rosneft, and handing their entire government over to the fifth column Atlanticists. THEN destroying all their nuclear weapons and being balkanized into fourteen mini-states, each controlled by their own Poroshenkite corrupt oligarch. Also, there would have to be the requisite privatizations, elimination of banking regulations, austerity measures, and crippling IMF loans that can never be paid back. Oh, and gmos. Definitely gmos.
Excellent article by James Petras-
Ukraine- Truce or Trojan Horse: Retreat, Re-armament, and Relaunch
http://m.strategic-culture.org/news/2014/09/13/purpose-sanctions-breakup-relations-between-europe-and-russia.html
Take away sentence
The real danger to Russia is a continuation of its low-key, moderate response to the sanctions. This is a response that encourages more sanctions. To stop the sanctions,
Maybe there are some more but Lavrov is the only one real world class diplomat I know.
And definitely I don’t see such professionals in the EU, not to speak about the US Gov. Most are arrogant, ill educated, bad mannered puppets.
Sounds good to me. Better to strengthen defenses and otherwise ignore the West and their military bluster while getting on with the business of cooperative economic development with the New Silk Road and the World Land Bridge. Let the West continue to decline economically until its people have had enough and throw out their imperialists. Meanwhile, Eurasia has its own oligarchs to be brought under control.
Sounds good to me. Better to strengthen defenses and otherwise ignore the West and their military bluster while getting on with the business of cooperative economic development with the New Silk Road and the World Land Bridge. Let the West continue to decline economically until its people have had enough and throw out their imperialists. Meanwhile, Eurasia has its own oligarchs to be brought under control.
Time to learn Chinese. I think the Germans will come around when the Deutsche Bank Atlanticists are kicked out of power. The exporters rule supreme there
under the circumstances, this is the best that can happen. The world needs a consistent alternative to the psychopathy of the West … here in Brazil, we pay much attention to events in Ukraine …
thanks for another solid analysis …
greetings!
Interesting analysis. I hope, though, that Russians do not “give up” on the people of the West, even if they give up on the rulers. Continuing to engage with projects like RT.com.
As to the “multi-polarity” that Russia is pursuing, I think that is part of the Illuminati (largely what you refer to as AngloZionists) game plan: to create the multi-polar world laid out in Orwell’s 1984. By pushing Russian into China’s arms (and I think fundamentally China is controlled by the Illuminati, meaning Russia should continue to focus more on self-reliance and less on imports), the Illuminati is setting the stage for the “final war” to usher in the one global government. Though I think the three “alliances” will fall along different fault lines than those included in 1984, and one will likely be the Islamic caliphate being built in the Middle East.
Yes and good for Russia, Putin will need to remove anyone in Russian govt. that wants to stay with the west. Then forge strong ties with China and the BRIC.
http://slavyangrad.org/2014/09/13/does-the-kiev-government-have-a-plan/#more-3535
Everyone is talking about gas but it is also coal for electricity. Double whammy for the Orcs this winter
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In recent years, many patriots have come to the opinion that the Donbass mines are unprofitable. Many even began suggesting that a bloody military conflict in the East would be a good way to rid the country of this outdated “Soviet” industry, tossing coal in “the dustbin of history”. However, the impending economic crisis of the upcoming winter threatens the infrastructure of the majority of Ukrainian cities. Some 42% of Ukrainian electricity is derived from thermal power plants using coal. Deprived of fuel, the thermal power plants will not only be unable to produce heat, but also electricity, while the growing number of hot-water heaters and independent heating systems will not only be unable to resolve the problem of heating and hot water, but will significantly worsen the crisis, imposing an excessive burden on the energy grid.
End of the era of appeasement.
There is great article by elmiurid at Slavyangrad.
Question is what will happen with low-intensity conflics like Syria,Ukraine?
The AZE will continue to goad Russia into war. They will have to escalate.
What we have here is the age paradigm of one set of oligarchs battling with another over apparent conflict of interests. Their interests being more for themselves and conversely less for others at any cost to other life or life support systems. In the west and parts of the east the political class almost entirely supports this premise and the oligarchs.In Russia it appears the political class operates with some independence to the oligarch’s agenda by having nationalized what would normally be within the oligarch’s bailiwick. Be that as it may, the western interests are acting with some predictabilty to what they perceive as their imperative of action. That this may be a poor choice according to Sergey Lavrov may be correct but it does not change the circumstances one bit.The west is exhausted economically through the debt money system and mismanagement as is much of the east but desperation in the west may lead to unpredictable actions. Through all of this the tragedy is that the common citizen are always the ones to pay the full price, economically, monetarily, and physically of their rulers machinations while the oligarchs generally just sail on.
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See same link I included
In the political sphere, the Kiev government is trying to establish a populist right-wing dictatorship. And if the government is employing the tactics of direct police violence, destruction of offices, arrests and intimidation against the left, its relationship with the far right is much more complex. Not only do the latter have significant support among the public, they are also well-armed and organized. They are exerting political pressure on the President, which has made him visibly nervous. By all accounts, Poroshenko’s tactics in relation to the far right comes down to their mass dispatch to the front (hoping for their physical destruction) with the concomitant rapid occupation of the right flank with loyal political clowns, such as Lyashko (Sergei Levochkin’s protege).
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Will Emperor Obomber and Adolph Merkel still be on board in a violent coup that brings outright Neonazis to the Presidency?
For Obama the ends always justify the means. So for the same reason he colluded with ISIS to take out Putin’s supposed ally Assad, the end game is against Russia, so I say nothing will substantively change
Another masterful treatise by The Saker.Reality is The West is bent on war with Russia and Russia will have none of that. The turn east from ‘west’ by Russia will in effect destroy the economy of EU. To be blunt, EU asked for it and they are getting what they asked for. Perhaps The Fatherland, the only viable economy in EU, will think twice before they again elect a ‘former’ Gestapo (sorry, Statzi, same thing in spades) leader.
While the west economies and the dollar may eventually fall to third world status I don’t think I will live to see the total fall (don’t get your hopes up, I’ve got another 20 years or so to make you miserable if family genetics hold true) but you can rest assured I will make sure my family is protected from any adverse affects of the eventual collapse of both the dollar and west economies.
Dear Saker. I value you blog , I think it to be one of the best together with the ColonelCassad blog and El-Miurid.
I agree with your analysis but differ on your conclusions. I think that Russia should respond not with counter-sanctions and diplomacy but with a military intervention to liberate all of Novorossia and even all territory east of the Dniepr. The only field where Russia can match the west is the military and especially the nuclear weapons. There will NOT be a third world war over Ukraine, there will NOT be any Nato intervention. Both Obama, Merkel and Hollande were clear on that. No one in the west is interested in dying for the some illegal fascist government in Kiev. They just want to frighten Russia from intervention in stead, because they know Russia would win in one week and the west would have to pick up the rest, i.e. the most western parts of Ukraine (Galicia) that Russia does not want anyway.
I thinks its true but it is also sad but the west only has itself to blame, I was genuinely more hopeful of the EU and Europe in general (and I believe most Europeans where and still are)however they have shown their utter and total weakness when it comes to standing up to big brother US and especially Merkel, she is the only one that could prevent all this but no, really sad personally, However when one star is on the wane another rises – in the east – the rest of the world continues to seek out meaningful economic and mutually beneficial arrangements. I cannot help thinking that somehow the only, ultimate, path for this to take is war of some kind? Of course the US addiction to oil is there 1st priority but their desire to somehow ‘break’ Russia up is still on the agenda, the US see China as the main threat and think that regime change and fracture of Russia into smaller states (letting the oligarchs have free reign) somehow makes China a more manageable entity or at the very least easier to attack from several sides. I fear that constant tension and provocation in this area can only lead to armed confrontation eventually.
May I suggest that this is the “Papou yes”. Say yes to anything. Always say yes – and then do exactly what you were thinking of in the first place. (if you say “no”, this brings up aggrssion in the western mind set. And the Papaou will be subject to pressure to “obey”. Once the “yes is pronounced – a western educated person will not continue, but be at a loss what to do next.)
Actually a lot of us in the west have lost faith in the sanity (?) of our “leaders”. There is maybe another reason for their empty headed reactions. That is NSA spying. I reckon that blackmail and Bribery are being used freely as pressure on Politicians.
ITAR-TASS recently published a very long, complex interview with Lavrov that ought to be required reading, http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/748935
Similarly, Putin’s short Q&A at the SCO Conference contains significant views, http://eng.kremlin.ru/news/22949
This should also be read with Putin’s short speech to his SCO colleagues, http://eng.kremlin.ru/news/22943
The Dushanbe Declaration from the SCO Summit is referred to by Putin but I can only find it in Russian here, http://mfa.tj/ru/novosti-i-sobytiya/dushanbinskaya-deklaratciya-glav-gosudarstv-chlenov-shos.html
The fight against ISIS will include all the 5 Permanent Members of UN, including the Whole World, such as Syria and Iran.
Only country which will be looking from outside will be Israel.
To make such a Coalition of Willing it will take some time.
Best regards,
Mohamed.
And for those without it, here’s the link to the RF’s MFA’s documents and materials page, http://www.mid.ru/bdomp/brp_4.nsf/english
Oh yes, I just forgot!
Lebanon has been given Hellfire Missiles to fight ISIS.
Israel on a regular basis and constantly violates Lebanese Airspace, I wonder if they will now continue to do so.
ISIS is a threat to the Whole World, including Nigeria. The Coalition of Willing will be more than happy to provide Air Cover for Nigeria and help Nigeria in their fight against ISIS.
Best regards,
Mohamed.
This is a great article raising questions about where Belgium got the $200Billion!!!!!!!!!! to purchase U.S. Treasury bonds from? and the vilification of Vladimir Putin. Is the federal reserve bailing itself out? Did Russia just dump a shitload of Treasury bonds? They with China, are the largest purchasers of Gold in the world at the moment.
As the Bric nations set up there own Bank and and soon an international currency to trade oil, the Fed knows that the game is up and the empire will turn to the only tool it has, the most brutal military Industrial complex on the planet . It’s a long read but well worth the effort and time. In conclusion , of course he’s not a NWO puppet, he’s a Russian patriot
http://www.sott.net/article/285535-Is-Putin-part-of-New-World-Order
The key factor for the success of nations, peoples and individuals going forward is eliminating the American government from the equation. And that includes for the American people.
Imagine a Middle East shorn of American presence. Imagine Germany and France as independent, socialist nations.
Imagine America itself as a confederation of states instead of united police state.
America is the #1 threat to peace, freedom and the survival of the human race.
– East Coast, USA
Actually, if I were Lavrov or really any official representative of the RF having to put up with these truly adorable sewer rats and plain offal passing for civilized Westerners, I would tell the latter that the Soviets were dead right: The bourgeoisie and its hangers-on belong in mental hospitals, period.
John Kerry, 1971
“There is absolutely no difference between ground troops and a helicopter crew.”
http://www.wintersoldier.com/index.php?topic=Testimony
The “West” is America, not Europe.
Most Russians see themselves as a European Christian people — true of Stalin, as well as Putin — and naturally seek to deepen their ties with Europe.
Europe, however, has ceased to exist, except as a US appendage.
In turning to the East, Russians had been forced, in effect, to abandon their “natural” allies. But if ever Europe should throw off its American yoke — a National Front victory in France would be the start — Russia will gladly forsake its “Chinese pivot” for a European one.
A Sino-Russian alliance implies a multipolar world; a Euro-Russian alliance would inaugurate a new era of European Christian hegemony.
Touching upon the sanctions, the reporters said that many countries were surprised at the speed at which Russia turned away from the West and began building relations with Asia, Africa, Latin America and the Indian Subcontinent and, again, Lavrov replied “yes, we were even surprised by the pace of events ourselves, but we had no choice”.
I wonder if the Empire had any hand in the above. LMAO!
When I say cahoots, they say together. But when I say together, they say cahoots.
Best regards,
Mohamed.
BTW, who paid USA for Hellfire Missiles? None other than Saudi Arabia, when they earmarked $1 Billion for France to provide Lebanon outdated arms.
The objection was raised why would Lebanon needs arms, and who are they going to fight.
Now, they need to fight ISIS with their Hellfire Missiles.
Best regards,
Mohamed.
SunDancer said:
“I hope, though, that Russians do not “give up” on the people of the West, even if they give up on the rulers.”
I wholeheartedly second that as a citizen of a western European country though I can fully understand that “we” do not deserve such mercy and am very very much ashamed. I think (and I have reason to think) we’re going to be in a kind of dictature here and perhaps sooner than any of us can imagine, as in: blink-of-the eye.
Тranslated into Serbian / Преведено на српски:
http://cirilizovano.blogspot.com/2014/09/the-saker_47.html
Saker said
In fact, Russia is already building a multi-polar world and if the West wants no part of it – tough. The Russians know that the West cannot prevent the emergence of this new world, and they don’t really care if they refuse accept this reality or play by the new rules.
This is the key. So long as Russia stands, they cannot get China. So long as both Russia and China stand, the rest of us have the best chance of getting the bloodsucking imperialists of our backs.
As an African I pray that Russia is able to hold the line. Because we Africans will then be able to show the neocolonial imperialists to the proper places.
@Mohamed:When I say cahoots, they say together. But when I say together, they say cahoots.
Mohamed, with all due respect, even though I have pointed out to you many times that *all* the empirical evidence shows that Putin and Obama are NOT “in cahoots”, you are still repeating this quasi mantrically. No offense, but I think that even if (God forbid!) the ICBMs start flying, you still will see that as a sign that they “in cahoots”. Now, you are entitled to your opinion, but in the case of a clearly counter-factual one, one which has been disproved oven and over again, I think that it is legitimate for me to ask you to stop with this. So please stop with this “in cahoots” nonsense. We all have seen it, we get it, and we don’t need to read it another 10’000 times, ok? At a time when the Western hatred for Russia in general, and for Putin especially, has reached a new hight I find it both unfair and unethical to constantly speak of “in cahoots”. You are, of course, welcome to ignore my request, but as a host, this is what I ask you to please do.
Thank you,
The Saker
And so it begins: Russia conducted country-wide elections and the anticipated color-revolution based objections to their legitimacy was launched by A Just Russia’s St Petersburg section as reported by ITAR-TASS, http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/749530
This sort of denunciation has become the usual opening shot of all previous US-fomented “color revolutions.” Somebody stated the elections would begin to smoke out the traitors, the 5th columnists, and was correct in that prognostication. It will be interesting to follow this to see how many other foreign NGOs masquerading as political parties blow their cover is a similar manner.
In a way there might be a point for the US to do what they are doing which is looking to keep the perpetual war going. But the EU? To cooperate with Russia would have been their only chance to perhaps escape being ruined by the US (They ruined the US so why let the EU pass?). Sadly the EU politicians have completely sold themselves / their countries out. When push comes to shove where will they go? They have closed up their own escape route for good.
I can’t help but believe the Germans, heavily invested in Russia are paying lip service to the Empire while behind the scenes making plans to abandon the US, NATO, and perhaps even the EU.
@Saker: At a time when the Western hatred for Russia in general, and for Putin especially, has reached a new hight I find it both unfair and unethical to constantly speak of “in cahoots”. You are, of course, welcome to ignore my request, but as a host, this is what I ask you to please do.
Salam dearest brother,
What is wrong with Obama, Putin, Kerry and Lavrov to work together for “Greater Good”.
Of course, they all four are being demonized, not just only Putin. Poor Kerry is being called a male “Bimbo”.
The most I feel sorry for is not Putin, but for Kerry for the part, he is playing.
God help the Peace Makers, and they are truly blessed.
I don’t think that ICBMs will start flying, but if it is God’s Will, then we will all bow to His Will.
As my gracious host, I will comply with your minor request.
Best regards,
Mohamed.
Thank you Mr. Saker.
Russia should stop being a gentleman, cut back on being polite.
USA-led Anglo-Zionist duplicitous policies, have long targeted Russia and China. Building walls, the alternative if they cannot plunder.
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Worth a read: The sanctions on Russia’s energy sector. Just too smart by half for their own good. A slice of the pie is not enough.
We’ll see how the major oil companies react to the 2 weeks ultimatum. A violation of the sanctity of Contract from government interference. This door swings both ways
ZH:
Former BP CEO Warns “Sanctions Will Bite West” As US Gives Majors 14 Days To Wind Down Russian Activities
“For the past six months, even as Obama and the EU were laying harsher sanctions on the Kremlin, one group of companies had managed to sneak by unscathed and largely avoided being impacted by Russia’s isolation by the West: the world’s biggest E&P companies, as explained in detail over a month ago in “Exxon Drilling Russian Arctic Shows Sanction Lack Bite.”
[Reuters follows up today, reporting that some of the world’s largest companies, namely Exxon, Anglo-Dutch Royal Dutch Shell, Norway’s Statoil and Italian ENI, will have to be put their Russian projects on hold: to wit, the companies will have 14 days to wind-down activities.[.]
[.]That may well be, but at the end of the day, Russia still has all the leverage in the long-run: “key among Russian tight oil reserves are the Bazhenov formations, which are located beneath existing mature west Siberian fields. They are estimated to contain as much as a trillion barrels of oil – four times the reserves of Saudi Arabia. Rosneft and Gazprom Neft are working on Bazhenov with Exxon and Shell.[.]
As the FT reported moments ago, “US and EU sanctions against Moscow are in danger of turning round and biting the west by constraining global oil supply and pushing up prices in coming years, the former chief executive of BP has warned.”[.]
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Go figure. USEU economies are teetering on a deeper recession, yet their stupid ass sanctions without much thought may just speed up a depression.
AM
Saker,thank you for pointing out the absurdity of Mohammed’s cahoots.It exasperated me for a very long time but I didn’t want to write it not to offend Mohammed who seems a very decent guy.
As for the Hellfire to Lebanon he mentioned,the lebanese army has received a very FEW of them,nothing that would alter the (Im)balance regarding the zionist entity but rather as a contingency for furthering the “war on terrorism”in this case cautiously hoping to bring Lebanon completely in the anglozionist fold in preparation to the destruction of Hezbollah to alleviate the fears of the coward that is sitting at our southern borders…they can dream on..
@Alien Tech,you and others please stop peddling the notion that Russia has abandoned Iran as an ally .They have been at war together against the anglozionists overtly these last three years in Syria backing their common partner ,the syrian government and covertly since 2002-2003 in Afghanistan.True as the Saker so neatly explained two days ago the Atlanticists have had position of power in RF and that has caused some damages as in the S300 story with Iran or in similar cases with other allies ,but that has not substantially weakened the irano russian alliance.None of the two at this critical junction in History can allow its self of a stained relation.Plus they both share common interests in the Gulf especially regarding the Bab el Mandeb gate, both have borders in Central Asia,they share the Caspian sea,and finally both are primary allies in Syria and Lebanon(Hezbollah and greek orthodox community).And one should not forget one of the main reasons for the wars in the arab world and I mean by that the gas/oil factor and its subsequent pipelines especially now with the Ukraine violent coup.
In addendum,Russia and Iran signed thursday economical agreements that will see the volume of trade,investment between the two multiply ten fold!!!!
BCH
A guess on the next phase of the operation: Novorossiya ‘betrayed by Putin’ one more time. No military aid, tightening the border, no political support, etc., capitulation to the oligarchs of Russia and Uraine. The sellout to capitalism sets up a reaction: the socialist revolutionary component that is essential to the next phase of the conflict. And – the first formal introduction of international political support for Novorossiya.
Can’t help thinking this sounds like the “Frankly, Scarlett, I don’t give a damn” moment.
Katherine
@Mohamed: I will comply with your minor request.
Wa aleikum us salaam wa rahmatullahi wa barakatu
Thank you for your understanding, grace and patience with me. It is a privilege to have you here.
Kindest regards,
The Saker
…As for the USA, they are mostly seen as a hate-filled messianic lunatic who will do anything and everything to harm Russia in any way it can, no matter how crazy, absurd, useless and hypocritical…
Well spoken. You could also accurately substitute for “Russia” three or four dozen other countries in that sentence.
I find it very amusing, how Lavrov says after thousand tries, that Germany is hopeless, Eu is hopeless, etc.
I feel so it is true. I am in EU, and I don’t agree with any recent EU, NATO decision, and I am truly surprised by the hysterics of US, however I understand, that they don’t want to change their modus operandi to a more reliable and honest competition in the family of the planet, they just want to go on with the rule it by force and don’t care to anybody instead of a multipoar world moved by agreements and cooperation on the basis of mutually beneficial interests.
So yes, it is hopeless, they don’t want to change, so take a breath, make a statement, we have tried it, but it is hopeless, and go for a new direction which promises much more success and collaboration.
Lavrov and Putin, they have a good sense of humor. I really like it.
Seems the West is determined to not just shoot itself in the foot with these Russian sanctions, but to keep shooting higher and higher.
The stupidity is almost painful to watch. I suppose they are hoping to cause the Atlantic Integrationists so much pain that they up and get rid of Putin themselves. Don’t see that happening.
Anyway all the oil that Russia doesn’t extract stays in the ground. It doesn’t go bad. The Russians don’t have to start a campaign to eat their crude. When Russia develops the capability to replace the western oil companies (which I’m sure will be in short order) the oil will still be there and so will the market.
Meanwhile the West can frack itself up the a*se, but it won’t stop that oil.
But I don’t think, Lavrov, or Putin must change their very polite way of communication. They don’t have to be harsh.
They gained more hearts on the planet with this “our friends”, “our partners”, than with a hardcore aggressive style. They do it very well, and I don’t want a change in this style.
They do, whatever they think is the best, and in the meantime they are polite. Is not it the best way to have success?
The aggressive talking heads of NATO and western countries are disgusting. Nobody likes them. They don’t get any friends, they are not convincing at all, they seem to be very weak, and they are good only in creating enemies. This is not a successful way of making business.
And by the way, Saker, thanks for your excellent blog, I read it daily. I am very interested, how Novorossia’s heroes make the anglo-zionist genocidal nightmare a failed plan.
There is likely no way out for the suffering western peoples and in particular the duped public of the US.
The totalitarian all invasive surveillance state now exists – installed in secret while everyone was distracted by the superbowl and American idol.
The dystopian future is here and now for those imprisoned in the US. Those who continue to delude themselves they “are free”.
The US police state that now exists would have made even the most forward thinking masters of the gestapo and stasi green with envy.
America is lost, the last “leader of the free world” was JFK. All those since have been puppets of hidden masters.
The “west” (or as they like to call themselves – the “international community”) is fading fast. Soon to be relegated to who knows where.
The dullards in the “west” will wake up one day, scratching their heads and wondering what happened – where it all went wrong.
Alexander Mercouris said…
“[Saker,] yes you are right there are some people within the Russian establishment who still hanker for a close relationship with the west. However I don’t think it is fully appreciated how isolated within Russia these people are increasingly looking.”
Alexander, I greatly enjoy watching your appearances on CrossTalk, and acknowledge you expertise on the subject. I hope you are right that the Atlantic Integrationists are losing sway, but this contradicts what Evgeny Fedorov alleged in his Sept. 3 interview. In his view the “5th columnists” are still powerful enough to:
Keep Novorussia from issuing its own currency;
Pressure Strelkov, threatening a blockade, closure of the borders, and cutting off the humanitarian aid;
Force Strelkov back to Moscow;
Distort Russian press coverage of the Ukrainian crisis;
Strip Putin of the right to send Russian troops into Ukraine; and
Prevent Putin from making a tough decision on the defense of sovereignty in the Security Council.
I don’t know how credible Fedorov is, but he seems to know what he’s talking about. He says an extra-Constitutional purge of 5th columnists is coming soon.
When I was heading to Kuala Lumpur from Beijing, very glad to leave by the way, I thought how nice it would be if KL was my home, although I had never been there. Someone even asked me if I lived there.
It was beautiful, the people are nice. But there is the problem of racism there in a big way, and the policy of favoring travel by auto. Still it could be a good place to live.
When I was in Nicaragua, I learned about a large number of expatriates who live there. They left during the war then came back.
The commenter here David from Escape to Patagonia also has a very appealing story.
Canada also is a wonderful country, but it’s sordid colonial history, indeed present, and its total integration into the USA security and military system is something to be cautious about. Plus if something happens here, it could destroy Canada in a second. The highways to Montreal would be jammed.
Lavrov’s remarks are s turning point. Thank you, Saker!
Saker has done a tremendous job of putting this horrid campaign in Ukraine into context so I don’t have much to add except that it appears that the entire gambit was to buy time and prevent south stream from coming on line before a competing Qatari pipeline can be built. It’s been reported that in 2009 Assad was approached to allow a pipeline, originating in Qatar, to cross Syrian territory so that Qatari gas could displace Russian gas in Europe. Assad refused, preferring to protect his Russian allies. In 2011 Iran proposed a gas pipeline from its South Pars gas field bringing gas to Iraq and Syria, the so-called “friendship pipeline”. Shortly after, the colour revolution against Syria was unleashed in earnest.
Given NATO’s explicit refusal to commit troops and its acceptance of very high casualties without even so much as the threat of a referral to the international criminal court, Africans have been charged at The Hague for far less, it’s clear that Ukraine is supposed to be a bleeding ulcer that distracts the Russians and prevents south stream from moving forward. It’s clear that NATO is not interested in a direct confrontation with Russia, at least not yet, thus the constant assurances that NATO will not go to war over Ukraine.
So while everyone is focusing on Ukraine, and I don’t wish for a moment to imply that Ukraine is not important, the real aim is still Assad and unfortunately civilian Ukrainian bodies are merely the means to delay the completion of south stream to Europe and the friendship pipeline through Iraq. Meaning that this conflict will continue until Assad is gone and the Qatari pipeline is constructed on Syrian soil and the friendship pipeline is not. So to defeat NATO/US aims means that Russia must pacify its Ukrainian neighbour so that it can redirect its attention to 1. Building south stream and 2. Assisting Assad.
With that backdrop Strelkov is right, Kiev must be brought to heel, quickly, so that the Nazis are driven out and the people can elect a new government in their own best interests. The longer this drags on, the worse it gets for Russia and Assad especially now that direct airstrikes inside the country-certain to target Syrian army positions-have been accepted by a newly terrified populace. ISIS ( did the Al Qaeda franchises close down?) just gave the AngloZionists the justification to do what they have wanted to do from the beginning, bomb Syria and drive Assad from power. ISIS is a tool of the Anglo Zionist matrix, as is Al Qaeda and all the other terrorist iterations that just happen to show up when the US needs to push a reluctant public into another attack.
Cont….
While I agree that Russia will seek to build a multi-polar reality, the West (really the power behind the US and their vassal states) will not go quietly into that good night. They will create chaos, as they have done for two decades now in Iraq and countless more decades in Latin America, to get their way. They are the equivalent of a spoiled child having a tantrum, only that infant has a loaded gun. With the death of one of its presidential candidates in a recent and rather convenient “crash” Brazil is back in play. South Africa is ripe for racial destabilization and chaos. India is always vulnerable to terrorist attacks that can be blamed on Pakistan, and on and on. The next few years will witness the infamous “birth pangs” that the zombie Condoleeza Rice talked about, but on a far greater scale. Russia China et. al., will need to demonstrate Herculean focus and commitment not to be distracted by the many provocations in store.
Russia is in grave danger, but of course Putin must be well aware of all of these things, plus quite a few others of which I am not aware, and he has navigated it expertly, thus far. But I now agree that while the cease fire may have been in Novorussia’s interest it certainly was not in Russia’s. This proxy war may break for the winter, or even less, but it will resume at the earliest opportunity. This leads me to believe that Putin may be constrained, either by sanctions or oligarchs or both, or is a far greater humanitarian than I had thought, to put the needs of the people of NovoRussia ahead of Russian strategic interests. Either way, this new world will not be born but on the corpses of millions of innocents. It is the price that must be paid for years of cowardice and opportunism, where we deceived ourselves into believing that the bloody empires of Europe and the US were the pinnacle of humanity, when in fact they were the handmaiden of our craven submission to the most base human instinct.
“Yet, if God wills that it continue until all the wealth piled by the bondsman’s two hundred and fifty years of unrequited toil shall be sunk, and until every drop of blood drawn with the lash shall be paid by another drawn with the sword, as was said three thousand years ago, so still it must be said “the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether.”
Small crimes have small consequences, but great crimes, must necessarily only be purged by great consequences. The West has committed a great crime, perhaps the greatest crime in history, so this, regrettably, is the path we must walk to win our own redemption. There is no other way, our crimes are great and terrible and it is only right and just that we should suffer.
Israel lost 6 million people and Russia lost 28 million people in WW2.
Why does not Russia build its own holocaust to remind the Germans and Europe of the Russian tragedy?
America is not the problem. Jewish control of America is the problem.
Baboo here,
“Israel lost 6 million people… .”
Huh?
‘Australian foreign military deployments as part of allied military operations’
Australia is currently deploying military forces for operations in Iraq. These military assets also have the potential to assist the execution of allied operational plans (ongoing regime change operations) in Syria.
In addition to Australia’s Chief of Defence Air Chief Marshal Mark Binskin announcing that the ADF [Australian Defence Force] will be enhancing its military cooperation with Ukraine, there is evidence that the ADF are planning small but specialised deployments in Ukraine that will augment U.S./NATO backed operations in the region. Australia is also increasing concurrent operations against Russia (allied economic warfare operations).
“I want to say very clearly that we are working towards stronger sanctions [against Russia]”… “everything is on the table” [Australian PM Tony Abbott]
Australian strategists believe they are enhancing their security and political leverage/influence as a power ‘punching above its weight’ through embracing the militarism of an allied bloc.
Australia is an extension (partner) of the U.S./NATO bloc and is openly supportive (politically and operationally) in the successive offensive military operations of this military bloc. Australian ‘defence’ policy (involving the enhancement of interoperable military capabilities) is also integrated with the U.S./NATO/Israel bloc (U.S., NATO and Israeli advisors work with the Australian Strategic Policy Institute, the Lowy Institute, etc. in the development of strategic policy. The Lowy Institute was established by Frank Lowy and Martin Indyk, both of whom also established the Israeli Institute for National Strategy and Policy).
Australia’s Chief Zionist Administrator, Abbott, is an arse-licking sycophant of Wall St/TelAviv/City of London bankers. The majority of us Australians are disgusted by this little creep’s actions, and he will join his political hero, John Howard the Brinai’Brith recipient, as bonafide war criminals.
We need independent and honest parliaments, not what we have now, an outreach office of Washington.
As for ADF, they are criminals and have had no legal or moral action since WWII.
As for Lowy, he is a treasonous Jew, a Rothschild agent, an arch Zionist and one of the architects of 9/11. We must rid the world of the Zionist cancer.
p2. ‘Ongoing information warfare (propaganda) in Australia’
Although there are Australians who do not embrace anti-Russian narratives, I speak from firsthand experience when I state that decades of Cold War propaganda has been effective in hardwiring anti-Russian prejudice into many Australians, beliefs clearly shared by many of their political representatives.
Indeed, much of Australian media are agitating (information warfare) against Russia (displaying a remarkable level of prejudice). This behaviour is however consistent with Cold War propaganda efforts and unfortunately is to be expected as Australia is part of the U.S./NATO/Israel bloc.
In addition to its numerous foreign military deployments (as part of allied military operations), the Australian military is also being integrated into the developing Air Sea Battle concept plan (preparations for potential military conflict with China). The implications of the U.S.-Australian military build-up for China (and Indonesia) are self evident.
Recognising increasing Australian ‘military cooperation’ with Ukraine, it is respectfully advisable for Russia to gradually (but quietly) enhance its political, economic and military ties not only with China but also with Indonesia (which would result in mutually beneficial outcomes). Indeed, both Russian and Indonesian strategic positions would benefit through the enhancement of economic and military cooperation.
re …during our training (I cannot call it “education) …
It can be helpful to distinguish between “schooling” and “education”.
“Schooling” is associated with the intent to cram and plant ideas and info to facilitate others’ control of those beings.
Great blog. Your views most helpful.
To “educate” is entirely different. Any good dictionary will show the original meaning as “to lead out” from the Latin [e + ducere]. Put simply, “to lead out” of what you want to escape or be free of, such as ignorance, poverty,starvation, mystery, uncertainty, etc.
“Education” is a powerful tool to create rational and helpful;l beings.
“Schooling” tends to promote unquestioning obedience and control by others. That, taken to its limit, means robotic behavior.