by Brainstorm
The designed, created and carefully articulated immigrant flow to Europe, generating one of the biggest crises in after the Cold War as the byproduct of US waged wars in the Middle East, is rolling out according to the already written screenplay. As the pretext for rising extreme right sectors within the EU boundaries, revival of nationalism, racism and fascism, dramatic changes to European societies bring to the reality inter ethnic and inter-religion confrontations which painfully remind Europeans to some previous Apocalypses which took out over 60 million lives killed just in WWII.
Decades long, war mongering politics of US and NATO satellites, their role in creating and backing various insurgent and terrorist groups from Afghanistan to the Levant and North Africa, brutal neocolonial politics of the Western “corporate governments”, guided from the shadows by the huge corporate business, every present hunger and greed for influence, markets and resources; brutal regime changes by the means of “color revolutions”; breaking all agreed international standards and laws, forcing UN to surrender and capitulate under the enormous pressure of US administration are destroying already fragile balance and security system established after the WW2.
As the result of such militant politics, wars, stimulated coups, creation and backing of terrorist and insurgent groups and organizations, entire regions in Asia, Middle East and sub-Saharan parts of Africa are practically destroyed, leaving barely sustainable conditions for survival for millions of people in war zones. Destroyed, impoverished countries with new puppet regimes controlled and loyal to their murderers and occupiers, are incapable to control own territory with various ethnic and religion entities which sink into the ocean of never ending conflicts, becoming the colonial Eldorado for the western multinational corporation, stealing their resources, oil, gas, organizing narcotics production and distribution, human and child trafficking.
It was expectable, of course, that the flows of refugees will start moving like the huge river, fleeing from their homelands, seeking for the safe Heavens, away from the horror of war zones in Libya, Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Afghanistan and other countries. War masters are fully aware of the arising crises and their outcomes. What’s more, it seems that they counted it as the inevitable collateral damage and even more: they articulated and directed crises to serve their purposes and aims.
The most of refugees, which are almost neglected and underreported were dislocated from their homes inside the own countries, making the situation even worse for the legally elected governments to help own people in refugees camps while in the same time they have to wage war against DAESH and US/NATO backed, so called, “moderate rebels”, who are everything else but “moderate”.
Small neighboring countries like Jordan and Lebanon also accepted a large number of Syrian and other non Syrian refugees, while the rest of them keep moving further to Turkey and through Turkey to – Europe.
What is weird in this dramatic situation is that actually not a single wealthy Arab country, bonded to US and being their loyal ally, accepted any Syrian refugee. The most obvious situation is with oil rich Saudis who accepted literally zero refugees from the region, although there are reports documented by photographs about thousands of air conditioned tents raised near the Riyadh which purpose and use is a but unclear, where over hundreds of thousands refugees could be settled without the problem.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/sep/15/saudi-arabia-has-100000-air-conditioned-tents-sitt/
It seems that refugees are allowed to flee only through those countries which are actively opposing American influence and domination. These facts raise serious concerns that a huge refugees flow is somehow articulated, directed and regulated by the same countries responsible for the wars, regime changes, destruction of their countries, economies, and generation of the huge refugee’s crisis destroyed their homelands (US, UK; Turkey Saudi, Israel, Qatar, and other EU countries selling weapons and arming the region)
With the most of the rich, US-allied Arab countries around the Syria and Iraq which are ultimately refusing to accept war refugees, the only path out of the war zone, except Jordan and Lebanon, is Turkey or an extremely dangerous sea route across the Mediterranean.
The most of refugees from Syria, and other Muslim countries previously or still burning in war flames, are fleeing to Turkey where huge refugee camps were organized. But why Turkey? It is one of the strongest and most loyal US/NATO partners in the region and wider and somehow, at the first glance it doesn’t fit the recognized schema of refugee’s path.
We are getting to the point now. Turkey is trying to access EU for decades and it was denied by the most influencing EU members all the time along. They are the NATO member and the most important US/NATO ally but yet, still not a member of EU? This situation really bothers Turkey which still dreams their old Ottoman imperial dreams of returning to Balkans, increasing their influence in the region as well as in Europe.
Besides indisputable evidences provided by Russia of illegal oil trade between Turkey and ISIS who is supplying stolen Syrian oil to Erdogan’s regime, providing huge profits to Turkey, while in the same time Turkey backs ISIS by delivering smuggled arms and weapons, military and medical support, instructors in exchange for oil, Turkey founds ideal excuse in this situation to benefit itself, concerning her unsuccessful attempts to access EU.
Refugee crisis and a huge human immigration flow to and trough Turkey is the key point for future Turkey aspirations to join EU, using refugee/immigrant swarms as crisis generator and blackmail of European countries that were refusing Turkey’s accession to EU.
By accepting hundreds thousands refugees and economic immigrants, under excuses that Turkey cannot handle anymore such pressure, Erdogan is channeling thousands of refugees daily through Balkans region to EU countries.
Interestingly, the most of those immigrants are seeking asylum in Germany, which accepted so far, about one million immigrants. Is it just a coincidence? Is it a kind of coercing of Germany to refrain from approaching to Russia? Is it perhaps American deadly grip around the European neck to keep EU countries in obedience? Or Merkel had her own agenda, planning to obtain numerous, low cost labor power?
It seems that Erdogan’s plan is succeeding so far: EU countries trying to stop or slow down the influx of immigrants from Turkey agreed to help Turkey with billions Euro worth package. Money is already flowing to Turkey which economy is suffering badly from sanctions imposed by Russia, after Turkey in irresponsible and deliberate act, downed Russian fighter jet when Russian pilot and one serviceman lost their lives.
Nevertheless, since Turkey is not EU member despite her attempts to access union, Erdogan is not obliged to keep and protect his borders as the outside EU borders under the common EU politics, and Greece due to its location, numerous islands and long borders is actually hollow and transparent to illegal immigration. Various NGOs, mostly financed by George Soros, are taking active role in funneling the overfilled glass by financing and directing huge human flows towards Europe. Immigrants are instructed, financially helped and their movement is articulated with carefully prepared instructions:
(http://news.sky.com/story/1551853/sky-finds-handbook-for-eu-bound-migrants).
When the EU members started to worry and openly complain, Turkey just swayed the head and said- we cannot handle them anymore. We need help from EU. And suddenly, billions of EU tax payer’s money has been sent to Turkey overnight?
But immigrants are still coming. Of course – Turkey is not EU member and is not obliged to protect the outer EU borders. They will let them go to the old enemies: Greece, Bulgaria and Serbia? Again a coincidence? I wouldn’t say so. Mentioned countries together with Montenegro allied in the Balkans alliances, expelled weakened Turkey entirely during the Balkan Wars 1912-1913 and there are almost no traces of Turkish presence in the area from that time. It is the nice opportunity today for a Turkish payback for the shameful defeat and in the same time for a strong pressure on EU to accept Turkey into the EU.
(http://encyclopedia.1914-1918-online.net/article/balkan_wars_1912-1913)
In this process, US is actively backing Turkey in all these dirty games in order to keep the most important NATO ally satisfied and compensated for their concessions.
Although accepting the most of the immigrants and advocating in EU flexible and generous immigration quotas plans, Germany is not the only host country. Large number of immigrants arrived to France, Sweden, Finland, UK, Denmark, Hungary and other EU member states, while the millions of people are still en-route to Europe arriving from Asia and Africa.
Heartwarming pictures in host countries of people waiting arriving immigrants with huge signs and welcome messages are fading away, and new, disturbing images of clashes in the streets of European countries emerge. Violence in the streets of European towns, caused by ethnic and religious animosities as the result of the immigration is rising daily, changing the pictures of Europe.
European rightists are raising voice and reviving against illegal immigration and immigration at all. Particular concerns are about the rising of extreme right sectors and revival of old nightmare of fascism, racism, and white supremacists who build their identity and presence on the European scene on serious concerns about “artificial and forceful demographic engineering”, “security and national interest threats”, “violence and demands for Sharia laws n the areas where Muslim population is present in the larger numbers etc. Islamophobia is in the full swing and rising up daily with every new wave of immigrants arriving.
With the increased power of right sectors, European member states will respond by issuing more and more restricting laws and regulations, narrowing so far achieved human rights and liberties. We are witnessing this process already started in France, where emergency state is declared, with the considerable presence of military and police forces particularly after the bloodshed in Paris, which was done by infiltrated Muslim extremists and Wahhabi militants.
Many fear that Francois Hollande this situation could extends to the election in 2017 to prevent the coming to power of forces that voters want (such as, for example, the National Front).
The European Union is in a state of emergency. Germany is conducting it in silence and under a different name. German media are strictly controlled. Officials of almost all parties in the federal parliament conducted wholeheartedly same policy of pushing the nation into chaos and open dictatorship. The salvation can only expect citizens of countries that have not yet been “blessed with” membership in EU.
In the same time Denmark issued regulations allowing seizure of immigrant properties and/or money above the certain allowed amount under the excuse that such values will be used to cover their accommodation and other costs. This measure for sure will not be hailed by immigrants and will increase already present tensions and rage.
The European Union is founded on the proclaimed high principles of equality, freedom and prosperity. From these ideals, two decades after the establishment has all come to nothing, except relative concept of well-being, given that the GDP per capita is among the highest in the world – 21,400 Euros annually.
With the increased influence and strength of right sector, including revived (but never distinguished) fascists, racist and white supremacists in Europe, it is expectable that further conflicts and clashes with immigrants will be inevitable. Europe is facing two opposite sides, both equally extreme in their nature: right sector with their well-known ideologies which will attract more members or fans with each conflict, and on the other side, undefined but unsusceptible high number or radicalized Muslims among which there are DAESH and radicalized Islamist mercenaries, infiltrated into the European countries within the huge and continuous influx of immigrants.
http://www.infowars.com/norway-oslo-police-we-have-lost-the-city/
It seems that the underlying plan of neocon powers and New World Order (NWO) promoters is rolling out as planned without bigger obstacles, all covered under the slogan of “political correctness” which, as the relatively new approach, is absolutely unacceptable due to its tendency of hiding or overstepping the truth in the name of “higher goals of ethnic tolerance multi culture and multi confessional pluralism”.
“Wikileaks founder Julian Assange believes that the mass exodus from Syria is part of the US strategy against the government from Assad: The depopulation of the country will bring the country to the brink of collapse because especially the educated middle class is being driven out. Europe’s strategy of open borders plays to the US interests in the hands.”
(“South Front” 29.10.2015)
In the same time, let’s take a look on the role of Israel. Israel is illegally expanding its territory over Palestinian lands over decades.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_villages_depopulated_during_the_Arab%E2%80%93Israe_li_conflict
They are performing active politics of genocide and de-population of Palestinians and other Arabs in their surroundings. New founding of gas/oil on occupied Syrian Golan Height is a sweet cake for them but there is a problem: there are Iraqis and Assyrians living around. Proxy war with the most brutal force in the recent history will swiftly depopulate huge areas which will be the nice expansion area for the Greater Israel.
So Israel is actively supporting ISIS, channeling and articulating this way refugee’s crisis and depopulation of Syria and Iraq. How convenient at the same time. Who is the supporter backing up Israel? Well US again!!! http://www.examiner.com/article/europe-taking-a-stand-against-israeli-religious-basedaggression
What was the imminent reaction upon first problems with immigrant swarm: a significant support and uprising of the right sectors in the most of EU countries along with extreme rightists and fascists emerging? Fascism is evil! It is the nightmare. It is the dusk of the civilization. Yet, it is rising again and authors of the crisis knew it EXACTLY that this will happen, but they didn’t do a thing to prevent it. Why?
Of course there is the reason. Europe still didn’t abolish and exterminate fascism from her roots. The first NATO gen. secretary was – German Nazi WWII officer. US accepted and pulled huge number of Nazi scientists as well as officers after the WWII, Germany had also former Nazi officers as the high ranking army officers after WWII. Roots of Nazism are still burning in Poland, Ukraine, Germany, Finland, Sweden, France, Austria, Hungary, even UK, Spain and Italy. Somewhere it is stronger somewhere weaker but ever-present.
(https://www.facebook.com/patriotischeeuropaeersagennein/videos/1659493604302159/)
EU members, faced with the increased threats of conflicts between anti-immigration oriented groups, pro immigrant oriented groups and immigrant groups itself, will soon be enforced to gradually introduce more restrictive measures and regulations until they finally declare a kind of emergency states further restricting rights and liberties of own citizens by tightening control over the internet, restricting or even banning free speech, controlling and oppressing alternative and free media, banning mass rallies, and other measures that could seems to be appropriate for the government administration.
https://www.rt.com/news/330419-germany-small-arms-sales/
This could be the pretext and introduction to more totalitarian regimes which could easily turn the European countries to the right and ultimately to the fascism within the EU boundaries.
Fascist and Nazis just needed a food to grow up and get strength. And they are offered such food, a huge immigrant influx: different culture, different religion, different philosophy, heritage, language, lookout, lifestyle, laws. It is the rich feast for the small but still alive fascist groups. With so much food they are growing fast and become more and more dangerous. You can see the example of Islamphobia and rise of nationalistic and racist intolerance in UK media for example:
https://www.facebook.com/OfficialBritainFirst/videos/945859365559325/
And yet, that was all known to the creators of the NWO! So we could only conclude that it was the part of the plan, a well defined and performed agenda. This brings now, more restrictive laws and less so far achieved liberties, less human rights, stronger and more aggressive police, more military on streets, somewhere declared emergency states, all as I have already described.
All these issues happened already and are happening RIGHT NOW! Indeed, what is going on now in Europe? Schengen is partially abolished. It seems very probably that will be abolished at the certain period of time. Citizens all over the Europe are rising against governments and refugees acceptance. There are new proposals to set military to the borders, – each country 1000-1500 troops that is EU army of 30.000 troopers! Is this the attempt of EU to create own army besides NATO?
Greek crisis still hangs over the heads of EU member states. If EU decide to close and seal the borders and to stop receiving more immigrants, or even to start deportations, Greece will soon have the number of immigrants exceeding 50% of own population? We could call it as artificial and violent demographic engineering. It is an invasion in fact, whether you like that term or not. The same fate could expect Macedonia, Bulgaria and Serbia.
The logical outcome of the conflicts which already started between immigrants, authorities and local population, as well as particular steps that some EU countries already made will ruin EU unity and mechanisms established so far.
EU will start crumbling and falling apart over the internal borders: border controls will be reintroduced, more and more EU countries will be strictly opposing acceptance of new immigrants and will demand deportation of already received immigrants. If denied by the EU administration, EU member states will be soon on their way out of EU, (Hungary, Poland, UK and others to follow them).
EU monetary system will start rolling down and some countries in order to protect themselves from the inevitable collapse will reconsider the return of their national currencies. Collapse of Euro zone will even more degrade and ruin the poorest EU member like Greece which is on the brinks of default, Portugal, Bulgaria, Romania, but even the Italy is not far away from that scenario and others will follow them EU members will be faced with more rigorous terms to pay their debts and to achieve arrangement to prevent their defaults.
Weakening of EU institutions or eventual collapse of Euro zone common monetary system will artificially strengthen US dollar, prolonging for a while the collapse of US economy and banking system deeply dependent on military sector, (in other words on the continuous state of war in the large number of regions). This will purchase some additional time to US bankers and Wall Street and FED, but with collapsing oil prices, the degrading situation in EU, the rising and strengthening BRICS, it will be the short run, the safe Heavens will not last forever for the economy which is approximately 18 trillion dollars in debt.
Faced with the imminent danger of the civil wars, or at least, wide spread clashes and conflicts, with already present and pretty large Muslim population in Europe, radicalized with the fresh influx of immigrants and disguised Islamist, which would soon be armed by the illegal arms smuggling, EU citizens will remain more or less silent on all of those governmental measures, voluntarily giving up from their liberties. The fear and feelings of insecurity will just gain US will gain more influence on their vassals in American dictated anti-Russian politics.
http://sakerlatam.blog/the-saker-files/sexual-terrorism-in-the-heart-of-europe/
The model for destabilizing Europe and ignite war on the European continent was tested on the former Yugoslavia, and later in 1999 with the illegal bombing of Serbia against all international laws. The same concept was used to the number of Arabic countries as well as in Ukraine. The blindness and deafness of EU leaders and countries acting like obedient pawns of US will lead to the final and ultimate dissolution of EU and breaking the most of achieved bonds, leaving only NATO as the top administration which will dictate American interests to vassal European countries.
US are brutally enforcing EU partners to raise and keep holding sanctions against Russia although it is huge measure against the interest of each EU member. Some members openly shout about that, but must be humiliated and obey what boss said. Nevertheless, this situation could not be expected to last forever. France already announced that they could vote against sanction renewal soon, but what happened as the result?? Paris attack, Calais clashes, chaos all over the France, state of emergency, restrictive laws, armed military and police forces on the streets and French towns, mass arrests …
Merkel and Germany wanted to build North Stream. They are ever ready to break the wall and start dealing business with Russia; of course they had tremendous exchange with Russia…Than suddenly… Cologne mass raping happened. And not only Cologne clashes with radicalized Muslim immigrant groups are all over the Germany … and it will be more; much more…
The EU will be crucified between vital economic and political interests in favor of Russia and humiliation and obedience towards the Empire. How long it will last? Is it better for EU to be united and strong and independent of US will and to do what is in her interest? Would each particular country in the dissolved EU, have enough strength and courage to resist the pressure from US?
Let’s be reasonable and frank: Americans still need NATO. But US do not need EU. That is the fact. And we are looking the outcomes.
http://sputniknews.com/europe/20160122/1033556228/france-germany-europe-panic.html
It is clear that those who are responsible for conflicts, wars and refugees crisis have moral and legal obligations to handle the refugees crisis and that they have to settle down all the problems arose upon their irresponsible actions. But instead of licking the wounds, Europeans should look back to the own politics towards African and Asian countries, they should stop supporting American imperial interests and work together in preventing the causes of the crisis- they should immediately return to the international standards and laws, stop proxy wars in the region, weapons and arms delivery, forcing other countries like Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Israel, Qatar and others to stop supporting ISIS and other militant Islamic terrorist organizations and to recognize legally elected governments and regimes.
Without the proper identification of the causes and roots of this huge crisis, there would be no proper measures and medicaments to solve the problem.
The disastrous US imperialistic and war mongering politics created still burning war battlefield zone in Ukraine and one lose and easily destabilizing zone with the great potentials for new conflicts in the Balkans countries.
Failed recent attempt of color revolution in Macedonia in order to oust legally elected government and Mr. Gruevski, who should be replaced with American puppet clown Zaevski, several terroristic attacks or attempts in Bosnia and Herzegovina, continuous attempts to abolish Republika Srpska, criminal fake so called state Kosovo, Turkish attempts to gain influence in the Balkan countries reviving dreams of Ottoman empire, announced arming of Croatia by US government with the missiles capable to target the most of Serbia and Republika Srpska are just some of those activities in creating incandescent state of the powder barrel where arriving Muslim immigrants will be just as a wick ready to ignite the huge explosion of conflicts, not only in the Balkans.
Who and when will light up the wick… we are going to see.
Muslims immigrants, who are already distressed and pissed with their fate, humiliation, suffer, poverty, human loses, but also with religious hatred and intolerance which at least a portion of them keep in their hearts, could be; and probably would be used as a cannon fodder and as the same excuse for the inevitable war, as the Jews were used by Nazis in the years prior to WWII.
You need someone to blame for the social, monetary and political collapse, and you need urgently to find, or – create the “enemy”. This is what is happening right now.
Immigrants and refugees will for sure represent a real threat to the European stability. They are already a threat, disrupting established political relationships and stability; this is indisputable, with a lot evidences and issues emerging daily.
http://medzicas.sk/potomkovia-fasistov-v-nemecku-sa-prebudzaju/
But they are not a threat because on they own, or because they are “barbarians” due to the different religion, civilization or cultural norms or whatever… they will be a threat because of the conflict of interests within the European borders; between the left and right sectors; between rich and poor European countries; between EU members who are actually responsible for the entire crisis by their erroneous politics to the Levant and Mid East and those EU members not feeling responsible in any way for the crisis; because of inherit feelings of Europeans towards ethnically, culturally, religion dissimilar population which probably have the same feelings towards Europeans, which they hold responsible for the situation they have faced; because the swarms of uncontrolled immigration will for sure cause the reaction of hosts and there is NOTHING that EU or particular member states could do to stop it or prevent it.
Imperialistic war mongering politics of US backed by the UK, France, Turkey, and other European countries, along with the allies like Israel, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and others who helped creating ISIS as the US, proxy army; Talibans as US proxy army; “Moderate rebels” in Syria as the US proxy army. That KLA (UCK) in Kosovo was US/NATO proxy army against Serbia; Mujahidin terrorists in Bosnia were NATO proxy army.
We should be aware that enormous immigrant swarms of young solely men of conscripted age infiltrated purposely among refugees and immigrants are future proxy army in the heart of Europe. Evidences of ISIS members photographed in the battlefield and then again in the cities of Germany, France and other countries as asylum seekers are all over the internet, face recognition software are easily do their work and evidences are indisputable. Authorities on the EU member states are fully aware of these evidences but are not willing to admit it publicly. Why? What they are hiding? Which agenda they are following?
Some of the answers could be found in this excellent article describing the new ways of the modern wars and methods of coercion:
http://www.rand.org/pubs/rgs_dissertations/RGSD189.html
The only thing that spoiled and to some extents delayed the evil axis plan is Russian extremely efficient action in Syria combined with coalition against US mercenaries (ISIS) engaged in that US proxy war. Faced with the inevitable defeat in Syria, US government already shifted their plans and ambitions toward the Afghanistan and Libya where they are actively transporting fleeing Jihadists from Syria.
This is particularly dangerous for escalation of conflicts since Libya is just nearby across the Mediterranean to Italy, and Afghanistan is once again the potential hot spot on the Russian borders.
Firm evidences exist about US involving in evacuating, backing transporting ISIS members to Libya, Yemen, and Afghanistan. Why Libya? Of course, oil again, but from Libya to Italy is a short run… a nice and easy path to import Jihad to EU.
Afghanistan should be again a hotspot at the very border of Russia. US provocations in the South Chinese Sea against China are aimed to create mini NATO in Asia which would surround Russian Far East, as well as China and N. Korea. Battleground for the WWIII is almost complete.
The entire EU is actually in the vassal position to US. Although it might sound insane, the only logical outcome to return of national sovereignty and independence is: European Union must die. It should be disassembled and dissolved. EU is the most effective tools to keep EU member states in the vassal position pushing them towards the New World order agenda with one leader in rule.
EU is the tools in the hands of US administration for crushing national states sovereignty with one shot and without a single bullet fired; it is the worst totalitarian system with officials and administration which is not elected or loyal to the own countries, but rather as the self sustaining parasitic organism is sucking blood and life from the European countries and citizens. EU bureaucrats are loyal to themselves only, neglecting national interests of their own countries. Two administrations – EU and NATO are in the most effective control over the life of every European citizen.
European countries actually have opposite interests to Americans, Europe needs a large and open market for their products, EU need resources and trade exchange of enormous values with Russia and Euro-Asian countries, EU needs energy, gas, oil, and long term stability peace and security for own development.
There is nothing of mentioned now due to the long term overseas pressure; friendly and mutually beneficial relations between Russia, BRICS countries and Euro Asian territory is in direct confrontation with US imperial interests. Whenever Europeans are starting to wake up and get sober, Americans start the engine of already prepared underlying future crises igniting blazes which destroy any such attempts (Former Yugoslavia civil wars, Ukrainian civil war, Greek financial crisis, immigrant crisis…) keeping Europeans quiet and… obedient.
Wake up Europe until it is too late.
” right sector with their well-known ideologies which will attract”
-I wouldn’t agree with the repeated use of “right sector”, the “right” which is actually closer to the real left in Europe has nothing to do with Ukrainian “right sector”, European nationalist, conservative, traditionalist are anti-EU, anti-NATO, anti-war, anti-USA, pro-Russian. Quite the opposite of the Ukrainian right sector. All, pretty much every single of the “far right” organisation in Europe is also true-left, meaning they care about the workering class. Unlike the self-proclaim left in the elite which mostly consist of doped out rich kids that want to flood the country with rapefugees.
“and become more and more dangerous. You can see the example of Islamphobia and rise of nationalistic and racist intolerance in UK media for example:”
-Britain First is not a fascist or a nazi group, it is basically a hippie group, who believes in interbreeding with arabs,africans, asians will create peace. If Britain First is a fascist group then every other country from Iran to Japan, to South Korea are ultra-super-duper-nazi-fascists.
The only sense there is any fascist or nazi groups in Europe is if you define “White people acting as all other peoples” as fascism and nazism.
IMO …The current global political agendas are way too complex and therefore it is meaningless to use the left/right political scale.
Never could get my head around who was supposed to be good or bad or ugly… so reached the conclusion they all are.
“who believes in interbreeding with arabs,africans, asians will create peace.”
You think I thought of peace when I laid eyes on my future wife?
I think you’re on the same stuff as Margaret Thatcher from Capitalist East Berlin.
No, shes an extreme far right white supremacist nutter whos ideas come right out of Hitlers mein kampf.
Ah, 10-4…only similar to
MargaretMartin then:“Nevertheless the felt living conditions in Russia have dramatically improved under Putin.
(what does it mean to the cleaner if her boss “earns” 1 million or 20 billlions.”
http://thesaker.is/to-refugee-or-not-to-refugee-that-is-the-question/comment-page-1/#comment-207891
@ Anonymous troll with some AntiMartin disorder:
You turn around my words.
Then attack me personally. Now call me Thatcher (yesterday you still called me Reagan).
My quote about the cleaner versus her boss is taken out of context.
I talked about your statistical numbers you were talking about all the time versus your evil ghost of “Unknown Putin”..
I put what her boss “earns” into double quotes for a reason.
It was an example you explain my point, no more no less.
Of course the Oligarchs _steal_ it from the people.
On the other hand: What is “money” to begin with. other than fiat zeros backed up by slave labor?
Your link to Starikov is the first good src I ever saw from you (because you prefer to “contribute” your anti-Putin rants anonymously, so who knows which other “contributions” might be from you).
But with taking my ex-wife into the game you disqualified yourself once again.
I advise you: NEVER IN YOUR POOR “LIFE” mention my ex wife again.
She is an engineer and you know absolutely nothing about her versus me.
Shut your darn head-opening.
Starikov is one of my favorite authors, and I read this pdf file already last year.
The problem is: You cannot put the puzzle stones together.
Even the largest economic power in the world, China, finds it hard to get rid of the USD without terminating life on earth.
Something like the Soviet Union could only be created after a World War and with support of the Rothschilds (which wanted to abuse communism for their benefiot [which fortunately failed]).
It had to be backed up by the largest and most powerful army of the world and in addition by the intl. banking elite.
Putin cannot write a piece of paper with 5 lines and then we are back in USSR.
It’s simply not possible. You ignore this fact which would be ok. Unfortunately you cannot deal with reality and react like a maniac. I wonder why your repeated trolling gets through.
If this doesn’t stop, then you won.
Build yourself a monument.
I’m tired of your ignorance.
Martin, from Capitalist East-Berlin,
“But with taking my ex-wife into the game you disqualified yourself once again.
I advise you: NEVER IN YOUR POOR “LIFE” mention my ex wife again.”
What on earth are you talking about? I wasn’t aware you had ever married, let alone divorced.
“I put what her boss “earns” into double quotes for a reason.”
Which was? (i’m not a mind-reader)
“Of course the Oligarchs _steal_ it from the people.”
Only much more so in Rossiya http://thesaker.is/moveable-feast-cafe-20160205/comment-page-1/#comment-207798
“Shut your darn head-opening.”
Ignorant f’ing Capitalist (in commie clothing)
“Even the largest economic power in the world, China, finds it hard to get rid of the USD without terminating life on earth.”
Could it be the Chinese oligarchs are just good chums with all the other oligarchs in the figures I quoted above?
“Putin cannot write a piece of paper with 5 lines and then we are back in USSR.”
Could it be he doesn’t want to – he’s hardly top a top Socialist dog after all:
http://thesaker.is/to-refugee-or-not-to-refugee-that-is-the-question/comment-page-1/#comment-207308
http://thesaker.is/minsk-2-a-rotting-corpse/comment-page-1/#comment-136605
I’m tired of your ignorance.
Your RT article about minimum wages in the RF:
You found my question silly, if you already priced in currency volatility aka devaluation of the Rouble.
Yesterday I told you that it is nonsense to quote Russian minimum wages ind USD terms.
Especially after the Rouble is worth less than half of what it was a year ago (compared to the USD in nominal exchange rate terms).
There we have the 5th column undermining RT once again!
Such “reports” get published to stir unrest in Russia. And you like that proposal for your wet-dream of getting rid of Putin.
Yet not all inner-Russian prices doubled in the same time.
Also: How often shall I repeat that I wished Stalin would be alive and the USSR would be back.
You are really wasting my time, your own time and a lot of bandwidth.
You have some phobia.
Join the group “Maidan” and finally remove yourself from polluting this forum.
Fight against real capitalists.
Look up in wikipedia what a capitalist is (this prives without the slightest doubt that I’m not anything even remotely related to one).
Unlike you nerd who watch Al Bundy on a TV, probably even in your own house with a garden (while I have no house, no income and no nothing and otherwise intentially don’t watch TV since 1998).
Martin said:
“You found my question silly, if you already priced in currency volatility aka devaluation of the Rouble.
Yesterday I told you that it is nonsense to quote Russian minimum wages ind USD terms.
Especially after the Rouble is worth less than half of what it was a year ago (compared to the USD in nominal exchange rate terms).”
The RT article was published on 27th Nov 2012 – idiot.
I’m on a Celeron computer here with only 4GB of mem.
Under Solaris all the mem is used. I simply cannot open more than 5 tabs in FF because TB is also running.
For this reason your RT link timed out after only the upper part got loaded..
But I know I know, you say I’m soooo rich.
That’s why I use a 5 years old computer which has not been upgraded since then. I had a 2700k and 16GB for 3 months but was forced to sell it on ebay at a huge loss.
But circumstances forced me to sell it.
And now (removed by moderator ZZ).
I ignore you from now on.
Maybe I will take a tank for some time.
That Saker let through all your dirt – I see this as personal attack against me, against Putin and against all others who wanted to have an educated discussion here but got distracted by your insane rants against Putin and against me.
That Saker let through all your dirt – I see this as personal attack against me, against Putin and against all others who wanted to have an educated discussion here but got distracted by your insane rants against Putin and against me.
You clearly do not understand how moderation works on this blog. I ONLY see those comments which were NOT approved by one of the moderators. This means that if one of the moderators let something through, chances are I did not see it. So your notion of a “personal attack” by me against you is simply false.
Where I would agree is that this thread is useless and rude and that some are trolling. I will talk to the mods about that.
The Saker
Furthermore, you have in the recent past gotten very angry at me for absolutely no cause, I never bothered defending myself, but when somebody attacks you you have a fit. That is illogical.
Martin said:
“But I know I know, you say I’m soooo rich.”
When/where? you not only lost the rt article, you lost the plot entirely.
“I ignore you from now on.”
you’ve said that umpteen times before.
I’m all up for an educated discussion – but it should be
(i) educated
(ii) no personal attack – I don’t like that but give as good as get.
Up to you if you stay/go…i’ve been here a lot longer than you.
If it helps, please remember, I agree with a lot of what you say.
@Saker: I also defended you (forgot it? I only say Serbian Saker traitors)
No, I remember.
Why no reply button to your post?
dunno. I could not reply to your post either, this is why I am doing this here. Some WordPress bug I suppose.
This entire rant against me is going on for 5 months.
only in your imagination
Only watch all this nonsense during the past 3 days alone.
In the past others got blocked all the time for no reason at all (regards to “blue”, I hope you are doing okay with your health!) This time everything gets through.
Then again you Saker hinted yourself repeatedly, that you are behind some of these fake(?) mods (it would be diffcult to find this url where you said this, but I recall it well).
No Martin, I never said that. I don’t even run the moderation team.
Back then you told that individual person he has nno clue how moderation works on your blog and that _you_ make the dicisions in tough cases and at the end see, notice and either approve or block the delicate parts.
Now suddenly you say it is all my fault and that “some” (me???) are trolling.
No, I am not saying that it is all your fault. I am saying that you have no grounds to be angry and that your suspicions about me are baseless.
You know what: it is not true that you wanted me to return,
I never asked you to leave and I never asked you to return. All of this happened entirely in your head. To stay or leave is your decision and not something I will argue with.
as you stated and claimed last time after calling all women who live in western countries “bitches who deserve to get gang-raped”.
oh, please, I never said that. that is completely false.
What a waste here.
Martin, calm down and stop thinking that somebody (including me) is going after you here. By the way, I did contact the head of the moderation team and told him that this thread had gone out of control and that personal attacks, including against you, should not be tolerated. Martin, I am trying to fix things here, but you need to calm down and give everybody the benefit of the doubt, okay?
By the way, if you don’t want to take my word about how moderation works, or if you think that there are some “fake moderators” here, please feel free to contact the head of the moderation team at the following email address: vineyard.mod_hs@unseen.is
Kind regards,
The Saker
Everybody with eyes and the capability tp process at least small parts of information can here (and at 10.000 other places) witness, what a bad evil “capitalist” I must be:
http://thesaker.is/paul-craig-roberts-and-michael-hudson-privatization-is-the-atlanticist-strategy-to-attack-russia/#comment-207682
“”””” Martin from S.E.B. on February 09, 2016 · at 12:20 am UTC
Hi eimar:
Fully agreed.
They did the same (almost) everywhere, in 1994 and since in Germany, from 2002 or what it was on in Poland, since last October they split the Serbian Railways into such small fractions competing with each other.
This all lead and leads to: More unemployment, higher customer prices, more railway lines closed down and back to start. A deadly cycle.
I first heard about the privatization plans for the RZD 3 days ago in a german railways forum. Just when I wanted to write a longer comment about the situation I saw that Saker already is aware of the subject and published his article.
It must be prevented under all circumstances!!!
So called “Privatization” has destroyed all of Eastern Europe since 1989.
What remains are de-industrialized empty lands or “new markets” how the Oligarchs would say.”””””
But I noticed that almost or not even almost _no_body helps me here.
Maybe that tard is right: A pity for my energy and time.
Martin … your series of posts to ‘@saker’ have have all been forwarded to Saker(eg not published) … mod-hs
To the anonymous Putin-hater (and Martin-hater, because he believes [“to think” would be an exaggeration] that I don’t hate and condemn Putin enough!) :
If you can read, I found the following snipped just 5 minutes ago in a favorite membership-restricted intl communist groups on FB (where I’m a member). Maybe you can switch on some cells and think about it.
Дилан Стегнов
1 hr
Opinions on the CPRF?
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Stephen Ulyanov
Stephen Ulyanov There are some good communists among the ranks but the Zyuganovite leadership is horrible revisionist trash. They’re basically right-wing nationalists playing on old people’s Soviet nostalgia to win votes as a parliamentary party. There’s nothing revolutionary about them anymore.
Further: The best proof that you never read or never understood (probably both) your own reference in http://thesaker.is/to-refugee-or-not-to-refugee-that-is-the-question/#comment-207917 is, that you condemn me for believing in national leaders like Putin, Stalin or Lenin (even though Putin is obviously no communist).
Yet in your own src there is a Voltaire quote which reads “a single leader can rescue a nation”.
You also ignore economic reality in the current global Ponzi scheme.
Not knowlegable, but the more so attacking me anonymously on a personal level. Even in threads in which I didn’t post a line.
Go to your Doc., maybe it’s not yet too late.
All others here are much bigger Putin fans with less ctritcizm towrads him than from me. It is an illness that you are ranting against me on that scale for about 5 months now.
And you don’t even have the balls to come out (with some nickname, I don’t care about your other hobbies).
Martin said:
“To the anonymous Putin-hater (and Martin-hater, because he believes [“to think” would be an exaggeration] that I don’t hate and condemn Putin enough!) :”
Putin is the antithesis of a Communist. You continuously refer to yourself as a Communist but if you admire the antithesis of that you cannot be considered credible.
“that you condemn me for believing in national leaders like Putin, Stalin or Lenin (even though Putin is obviously no communist).”
Ok – as I thought. You don’t really care about Communism but you do care about Nationalism. My perspective on Nationalism is covered by Goering’s quote. You’ve also referred to your own mental health issue caused by your association of Ukr nationalism with perceived communism. You are not alone – most of the planet suffers the same myopia – instead of taking some pills try to think like an alien.
ffs, stop calling yourself a commie.
How can this idiot call me “Capitalist” all the time and nobody defends me?
Did nobody ever _read_ what I wrote??????
I defend you, Martin. You have been here for a long time and I have never seen you as a capitalist. If anything, you have reminded us about life in DDR (GDR). You provided information about how economically successful it was and you had me think.
This person is obviously after you. Ignore him/her if possible.
Best regards.
Thank you comrade for your words.
@Comrade Martin
I support You! Nice to see you’re back.
Please ignore this troll.
Leliah
@Comrade Martin
ffs, it’ll be comrade Putin next.
Comrade Leliah, thank you very much.
I really felt a bit overwhelmed by this person.
He started this personal tirade about half a year ago. Only against me. Against one of the few here who really try to defend the Soviet Union.
A hug
Martin said:
“Against one of the few here who really try to defend the Soviet Union.”
That’s not my issue – the fact that you support Communism and ultra Capitalism (Putin’s Rossiya) is.
You are after VVP. The latter must advance on several fronts at the same time and that is difficult. Let me give you an example.
If a general is ordered to take a city, his job may be easy.
If he is told to take the city and preserve the infrastructure, it gets more complicated.
If he must take the city, preserve the infrastructure and make sure the inhabitants are not harmed, he has an almost impossible job.
VVP inherited some of the problems Russia has today and he has consistently worked on several fronts to solve them. That is timeconsuming work, but good foundations have been built in only 15 years.
Russias money problem was inherited. The centralbank must be tamed, but should that be done today? All at once and not gradually at the right time? The west would say “look, he recreates the USSR, we were right all this time. The isolation of Russia must be total”. Should VVP help the west when it wants Russia isolated and demonized? When the country needs to consolidate?
This is how I understand it. VVP needs to consolidate his country before he makes a big move. One step at a time and in several different directions at the same time.
The market economy has come to stay, but it will be under strict supervision in the future, as it was in the past in some westeuropean countries I can name. Credit control was total after the war.
We live in dangerous times. VVP:s Russia was never a threat, but NATO has caused tensions and they alarm me. One small mistake and anything can happen. I put my trust in VVP, there is noone else.
Martin
Don’t be so angry,I am perfectly understand you feelings,a couple of years ago I have gone trough the same attacks in a forum on RT.That forum doesn’t exist anymore,why,I don’t know.So this kinda replica is usual,you have to get used to it and in case just ignore it.That doesn’t mean that others are not interested in your comments,but people differ in their opinions and this forum is equal for all
> You think I thought of peace when I laid eyes on my future wife?
Yep, sure.
I bet like me she would have wanted to abolish German citizenship in favour of a Ukrainian Passport (which was my plan in 2008, as I had at first no clue about the Banderites).
The marriage broke because it was her who only wanted to abuse me to get a German passport, while I sincerely wanted to burn all bridges behind me and wanted to become a genuine Ukrainian (back then I believed they are communists).
You anonymous piece of *: If you ever mention my wife again, you will burn in hell for all eternities
“The marriage broke because it was her who only wanted to abuse me to get a German passport, while I sincerely wanted to burn all bridges behind me and wanted to become a genuine Ukrainian (back then I believed they are communists).”
Ah, I see your ex-wife story now. I can now understand your mental anguish. Don’t project your own situation onto others.
Your description may also point you at the infantile disease known as “Nationalism” where you assigned a societal model to a group (over 40million no less) who you thought all thought a particular way due to a line on a map called a border.
You Capitalist piece of * – are you now going to provide a hippie non-deity based description of hell?
I’m as much a “Capitalist” as I am a “Nationalist”.
The problem with you is, that you need about 5 times the same link until you begin to notice sometyhing.
Next attempt:
Here you see how much I *fight* nationalism:
http://thesaker.is/bosnian-muslim-witness-confirms-that-the-markale-massacre-was-a-false-flag/
“””””Martin from Soviet East-Berlin on February 10, 2016 · at 12:17 pm UTC
Yeah. Tnx for the Amazon link, will read new books over the summer as I normally do (I know, most people do so during the winter, but that’s one reason more for me to do this in summer).
The whole discussion is something I tried to make clear to Bandera-Nazis in 2008 in the FB groups such as “I love Ukraine” (and 2 other similar ones). At the time I wanted to migrate to Ukraine to my then future wife.
They never wanted to believe me and swore they would want to kill me as soon as they could find me. They called me Hitler-Putin’s KGB agent. And couldn’t even imagine they are really talking to one of their heros, a damn German.
Very sad that such a scenario repeats itself here on our own side.
Everybody sees it black on white how I stretched my hand for peace and harmony yet another time. But the only response to it came from you (the barbaric Nazi-Croatian haha).
Well, Ultra-nationalism is stupid.
That’s really the good thing with TheSaker: _He_ knows all this.
But not all of his readers do.”””””
and
http://thesaker.is/bosnian-muslim-witness-confirms-that-the-markale-massacre-was-a-false-flag/#comment-207841
“”””” Martin from Soviet East-Berlin on February 09, 2016 · at 3:32 pm UTC
To Uncle Bob 1 on February 08, 2016 · at 10:23 pm UTC :
Uncle Bob, you are my hero.
Tnx for this flood of _real_ info, rather than Bandera style propaganda until it somehow fits the agenda.
Languages vs. dialects: What those blind Ultras never understand is, how Germany would look like if we were (still) as insane as them:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6c/Deutscher_Bund.png
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsche_Dialekte#/media/File:Deutsche_Dialekte.PNG “””””
“Well, Ultra-nationalism is stupid.”
All nationalism is stupid…did you actually think about what Goering said?
It’s just another tool they use “your country needs you”!
You anonymous confused: Do I understand you correctly that you want an assassination and/or putsch of/against Putin?
@troll: If I get blamed for loving and admiring the Soviet-Russian (and also simply the Russian) nation, then I must plead guilty, then I am a patriot!
But to understand that, you need a soul and a heart, which you lack.
btw: nationalist != patriot
Гражданская Оборона – Всё идёт по плану (Клип)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QS54GkLRtrI
“(and also simply the Russian) nation, then I must plead guilty, then I am a patriot!”
I thought you were German?
htf can a German be a Russian patriot?
Anonymous troll wrote:
> htf can a German be a Russian patriot?
You are a racist.
Your “thinking” is based on genes.
Unlike mine.
Martin said:
“You are a racist.
Your “thinking” is based on genes.
Unlike mine.”
Huh…what? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriotism
“Patriotism is an emotional attachment to a nation which an individual recognizes as their homeland. This attachment, also known as national feeling or national pride, can be viewed in terms of different features relating to one’s own nation, including ethnic, cultural, political or historical aspects. It encompasses a set of concepts closely related to those of nationalism.”
I think racism is equally infantile to nationalism.
Mine was a simple question based on the definition…htf can a German be a Russian patriot?
Of course he can,take a look on how many foreigners have fought in the ranks of NAF,it’s a well known story
Dear Martin
I have supported you and some time back offered you a virtual coffee.
I always look forward to your posts and notice you took some time out recently to recoup your energy…
…so please don’t let this annon non-persona drive you into a frazzle.
And please anonymous… you seem to have a flair with words, so how hard can it be to invent a user name?
Babushka said:
“And please anonymous… you seem to have a flair with words, so how hard can it be to invent a user name?”
It’s a hangover from the Kat Kan days (rest her soul) when she argued in favour of the benevolent trillionaire and very seldom let my replies through.
Going anon increased my success rate.
Old habits die hard.
Dear Babushka in Oz,
I know. Thank you.
And sorry that I called those Soviet citizens who quit Russia “traitors”.
Regards to Australia (?)
And let’s meet in Dimitroffstrasse (now renamed back to Danziger Strasse/Eberswalder Strasse) for the coffee :)
I’d add him to this list http://www.forbes.com/billionaires/list/ around the same area as Bush and Blair and many others.
Since the world has been so indoctrinated your comment seems about the only logical reset…watch “The East” sometime.
What’s that?? Some USA TV show?
I have don’t have a TV and I don’t want one (here in damn so called “Germany”).
Unlike you I grew up in the East. So I wouldn’t want to watch some western GEZ financed TV propaganda dirt with such a name “The East” anyway (to know that I have enough friends who still have a TV).
You are probably an American.
In any case you don’t know what you are talking about.
Martin said:
“You are probably an American.”
Well I wasn’t born there and it is the place I would least wish to visit but not because some of it’s geography is not beautiful.
I already said I think of nationalism as childish so I don’t appreciate your implied projection of my own psyche.
PS: you don’t need a TV to watch a film neither are all films bad (although most are).
Give it up. Many of us know Martin. Your campaign against him destroys the thread. What you do should not be done in the vineyard.
” What you do should not be done in the vineyard.”
Martin, it’s past your bedtime.
Very good article, agree with everything except the usage of the term “right sectors” to refer to “far right” groups in Europe, as it sounds like the Ukrainian right sector.
Also there are almost no fascist or nazi groups in all of Europe, pretty every single “far right” party is soft-conservative or conservative.. From UKIP, to FN to Afd. The only single party that would somewhat match the description of fascist or nazi in Europe would be Golden dawn.
+1 Liz, even I as honest commie must admit this .
Although: Until now that is.
If the migration flood continues at this pace, a polarization will take place.
Ah, sorry, I forgot:
The same western politicians and MSM that are so exorbitantly warning of allegedly “far right” parties are totally silent about Kiev and the Swoboda, Right Sector not to mention Azow and the other Nazi batalions.
Hypocrisy 2.0 – nothing else.
Martin from S.E.B
Germany, which is the strongest EU economy has been paying the heaviest price for the bailouts of other EU economies while Germany still cannot act as a sovereign State, is declared as enemy state to the UN in the UN Charter’s paragraphs 53 and 110, and has no peace treaty.And “sweet Angie” is doing her motherless job.
You are totally correct with each point, ioan!
Thanks for your help btw :)
Yeah, lol, in my country the government called Svoboda a “Democratic party” and at the same time called Svobodas sister party in Sweden for “nazi”.
Svobodas sister party in Sweden called SvP (Party of the Swedes) and they no longer exist. SvP was a true Nazi Party.
Nowadays the Swedish government understands Svoboda is a Nazi party, but maybe not two years ago during the Maidan. Ukraine is not EU member.
A few years ago the EU Parliament even officially declared Svoboda as a fascist party. And now to serve NATO’s interests its “Kings X,we were only kidding about that”. Another interesting thing though. Does anyone remember in the video Saker posted a few days ago “Masks of the Revolution”. There are the pictures in there of Svoboda’s leader meeting and allying with Le Pen’s Front National in France. It said they broke up their friendship because Le Pen became friendly with Russia. So,the most interesting part there was that,they didn’t break apart because of Svoboda’s fascist ideology (which to me would have been the game ender),but only because Svoboda got mad over Le Pen supporting Russia.That is something we might need to think about.When deciding on supporting Le Pen.
” So,the most interesting part there was that,they didn’t break apart because of Svoboda’s fascist ideology (which to me would have been the game ender),but only because Svoboda got mad over Le Pen supporting Russia.That is something we might need to think about.When deciding on supporting Le Pen”.
Exactly. All the deluded people who hold up such right wing parties as being some sort of salvation for Europe better think again. They are part of the problem, not the solution. These fringe parties, long starved of popular support are now thriving upon the growing xenophobia within Europe, feeding off of peoples fears to advance their agendas.
I think it’s irrefutable proof of the genuine usefulness of the Right-wing nationalists in Western Europe. They tell these self-styled Eastern European “nationalists” who grovel and swoon before the EU, IMF, Soros, and NATO what they need to hear really badly. Great fun to watch!
@Liz
As an European, I agree with you!
My mother was born in nothern Italy (italian parents)/Milano a long time ago. This was during Mussolini/fascism time and my mother joined the antifascist movement (La Resistenza Italiana) for several years when she was young. She belonged to an antifascist family and her father was a socialdemocrat, very radikal left at that time. I have heard a lot about the antifascist struggle in Italy and even read a lot about Mussolini/fascism and Italy during Mussolini time.
I agree, there is nothing like fascism in EU/Europe right now, except Golden Dawn in Greece and (I would add) Jobbik in Hungary.
But Martin is also right, because polarization can take place. And suddenly Europe once again has a problem with fascism. I even expect this to happen because this will be the best solution for the elite to control the masses. And all the predisposing factors for the raise of fascism are there.
Interesting what you are writing because the Jobbik party in Hungary is friendly towards Russia and there is a report that one of Jobbik member in the Eu.Parliament has been accused for spying for Russia.
@ioan
Well, this was about neofascism parties inside a country, nothing else.
Jobbik friendly to Russia has nothing to do with domestic policy.
Churchill was friendly to Mussolini, and probably favored Mussolinis control over the populace. But Britain took a very different position in the war.
They certainly did.
The good old Brits. The ones who created the war. The ones who fermented the First World War. The ones who constantly denied any efforts in both World Wars on the Germans part to end the wars early. The ones who gave us the Balfour Declaration. The ones who spread their love of the Germans through Bomber Harris’s Night Time Fire Bombing of Civilian Population Centers throughout Germany.
Oh they are such an honorable lot.
How is that under the carpet sweeping going in Westminster now a days? any abused boys under there???
My view is cynical: recent floods of refugees have been stimulated for one overarching reason: the maintenance of artificially high property prices and rental values. Absent a constant influx of new “renters” (in reality funded by local taxpayers) property prices in the “west” would collapse. Oh, but that would hurt the wealthy.
The main problem in the EU is the ‘US submarine’ aka(Uk,Baltics,Poland,Romania,Bulgaria).
Old UE countries would better be back alone(at 6 or 9 maximum) and work with Russia without problem.
It is now impossible,as these CIA controlled submarines can veto any decision,even one baltic state of 2 millions inhabitants can block the 500 millions remaining.
Of course this veto system has been created by the US to block everthing they don’t allow.
It is called ‘the chains theory’.
There is one problem with this excellent analysis,don’t forget that all ultra right or nazi or extreme right parties are ALL anti EU.
The mainstream parties being so EU oriented and good vassals,I don’t understand why it would be of US interest to let them take power because they will end the EU or at least redesign it in their way?
The Euro (and I agree on this) is a total failure but on purpose.It has been imposed by the US to protect the USD for some time yet at least.It has never been created with the purpose to ‘work’.
Since 2008(lehman)there is absolutely no recovery to say the least in the EU.
This also has been made on purpose by the US with their various QE.
We are reaching the end as all QE are not working anymore,we go for negative interest rates which means stealing money from the people(not the ‘1 pct’ of course).
They have no other option left than war.Where?Difficult to say?Do they have the balls to attack Russia except via sanctions or proxies like Ukraine and Syria(ISIS)?
I don’t think so under Obama.But with Hitlerry arriving in the White House(if there is no neocon coup before?)it will be possible,she is crazy.
Expect the Empire to push Erdogan to invade Syria (à la S Hussein,go my friend enter Koweit we will be on your side..and then).
Once done,they will get rid of both Erdogan and Poroschenko as they usually do with their temporary ”allies’.
AMTV reports on the Oil Collapse 2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ty2d_p2z4is
Its interesting that all my life,in every history book I’ve seen (or read).Historians have almost unanimously blamed the Polish “Liberum veto” (the ability of one person to stop any legislation from being passed,just by that single person opposing it) as one of the main causes for the destruction of government in Poland and leading the way to the destruction of Poland itself. And now in today’s World the multi-nation EU has adopted that same rule in their system (allowing any single government to stop something by opposing it). More proof if any was needed of the old saying ,”those that forget history,are doomed to repeat it”.
@ Uncle B:
“[..] More proof if any was needed of the old saying ,”those that forget history,are doomed to repeat it”.
How true and wise those words are. Trouble is that history is written by the winners to flatter themselves and/or out-right lie to their ‘subjects’ to serve their own purposes.
So, my question is… what’s the point of studying history – primarily, so we don‘t repeat it – if us, mere mortals, have no way of knowing if the history we’re learning is true or not?
To illustrate my point I usually use this example: it’s Michael Parenti’s book; The Assassination of Julius Caesar: A People’s History of Ancient Rome.
And as awesome as the book itself is, it’s nowhere near as interesting as his behind-the-scenes story about the effort it took to write it. He jumped on the deep end, burying his nose in old texts, old certificates, scouting dusty libraries for factual data (etc)… he wanted to make his book as authentic and reality-based to the actual history as humanly possible. The results of his efforts are obvious; his book paints a very different picture about the historical figure that was Julius Caesar – in short; while not a saint, he wasn’t the despot who was rightfully dispatched by the ‘forces of good’ as we’ve been taught in school, it turns out… surprise-surprise… that his assassination was a carefully crafted coup by the Roman aristocracy/plutocracy of that time.
Hence… that’s my argument! We can’t learn from history, in order to not repeat it, because the history books themselves are highly propagandized and politicized.
Look at what they teach students about WWII in the West… America came, saved the day and won the war! No mention of the Soviets or dog-forbid: the Russians…
LoL! I know… it’s downright pathetic, isn’t it? Might as well summarize it as; ‘We came, we saw, he [he: being Hitler] died’ just by the awesomeness of our yank glorious presence! No ‘merican bullets fired, he just browned his pants and dropped dead spontaneously.
-TL2Q
@TL2Q
What they “forget” to tell is, who brought Hitler to power, and before that, who created such conditions in which somebody like the Nazis would have a chance at all, and I bet they also forgot to tell, that Churchill had very concrete plans to backstab the Red Army _after_ May 9th 1945 by reviving the Wehrmacht, building an Anti-Soviet alliance (UK, USA. Nazi-Germany) and jointly fighting the Russians.
To make this possible the idea was to nuke Leningrad, Moscow and a number of other very crowded (with civilians!) cities.
The only reason why Churchill didn’t do so was, because the analysts calculated, that the Red Army would win.
This is not a conspiracy theory, but the West simply opened some of its own archives last year.
(google for it)
Sadly, unrest is being on the way from all sides.
It must be somebody’s goal.
Sweden Arrests 14 For Plotting To Attack Migrant House With Axes, Iron Pipes
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-02-09/sweden-arrests-14-plotting-attack-migrant-house-axes-iron-pipes
And the Dollar needs this trouble, new heights of the EUR: 1:1.13
https://de.finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=EURUSD%3DX#symbol=EURUSD=X;range=1y
They were poles, probably working in Sweden. Very strange situation now in Sweden, with a big portion of ordinary people only talking about all the problems with immigrants, economically, crimes and how they behave, and don’t get punished. At the same time very hard policies against the rather non-existent violence from swedes, defamation campaigns against immigration-critics and the small anti-demonstrations. Its like the government is doin everything they can to upset and provoke people, but so far without success.
“Has immigration been weaponized?” is the theme of a one hour audio interview of Gearoid O Colmain by Kevin Barrett at Veterans Today. Very informative and basically agreeing with Brainstorm.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/01/27/gearoid/
One would imagine that is more in the US’s interests to blow up Europe than to let it become friendly to Russia. And this has always been a question regarding Russia’s strategy. Is it practical?
The other thing is that the actual masters of the universe may well be the order out of chaos crowd, who are working with or for the banksters. Maybe we need to see them as the enemy and not, say, someone like Obama or the US military. And they may be found in London, Paris, Holland, and Switzerland perhaps more than in the US. After all, didn’t DCI Tenet of the CIA get an award from the Knights of Malta not long after 9/11? Mission accomplished.
As Henry Kissinger once said. “America has no permanent friends or enemies, only interests”
“Austrian intelligence has reportedly revealed that US government agencies are funding the transfer of these refugees to Europe in an attempt to destabilize the continent. This new geostrategic initiative involves using desperate refugees as weapons for the purposes of US/Zionist divide and rule of the European continent.” Original German quote is from: http://www.info-direkt.eu/insider-die-usa-bezahlen-die-schlepper-nach-europa/
English translation is from part 1 of Gearoid O Colmain’s 11 part series on “Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe”.
I hope that he is inteviewed for Saker someday.
http://dissidentvoice.org/2016/01/coercive-engineered-migration-zionisms-war-on-europe/
“Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe”.
Thanks for posting a link to that work, Noelm.
“Of course there is the reason. Europe still didn’t abolish and exterminate fascism from her roots. The first NATO gen. secretary was – German Nazi WWII officer. US accepted and pulled huge number of Nazi scientists as well as officers after the WWII, Germany had also former Nazi officers as the high ranking army officers after WWII. Roots of Nazism are still burning in Poland, Ukraine, Germany, Finland, Sweden, France, Austria, Hungary, even UK, Spain and Italy. Somewhere it is stronger somewhere weaker but ever-present”.
Many Europeans will never acknowledge or accept this evident truth. It took Germans a generation to start confronting their recent past and as for other European nations you can forget it. They still hold yearly parades commemorating soldiers who served with the waffen SS in Latvia, you have the golden dawn in Greece and the Jobik party in Hungary to mention a few. The roots of fascism run deep in Europe and it seems every few decades or so it erupts into a world war.
The Europeans brought us WW 1 & 2, and I wager they will also be responsible (together with their bastard creation America) for bringing us WW 3.
So you have some deluded and delusional people posting on this thread that there is no fascism in Europe, talk about being blinkered. I agree that the current migrant flow is being orchestrated by America working together with Erdogan, but the EU politicians are also party to the conspiracy as they are traitors to their own countries and people. Sovereign nation states no longer count for these people as they are trying to usher in the NWO of a one world government headed by America, and the refugee crisis is perfect for sowing social tension and chaos and feeding the far right parties across Europe. Europe is indeed under attack, but it is under attack from America and its own corrupt and venal “leaders”.
» Many Europeans will never acknowledge or accept this evident truth. «
You have it exactly backwards. Some true Europeans will never accept this propaganda drivel. But most will go along with and don’t care. And this is the problem.
For starters, there’s a blatant factual error in the part of Brainstorm’s verbose but somewhat errand elaboration that you uncritically quoted. The first Secretary General of NATO was Lord Ismay, a Brit. He made the famous quote about NATO’s purpose: “To keep the Russians out, the Americans in, and the Germans down.” Gotta admit: he nailed it.
The NATO Sec Gen, by the way, is always a European figurehead who does as told by the Americans. His nationality matters little.
The guy Brainstorm probably had in mind is Hans Speidel. He was a traitor who sabotaged the defense of Normandy against the Anglo invasion and a conspirator against Hitler. He (and others) made the Anglo invasion possible at relatively little bloodshed. In compensation of his services, Speidel became Supreme Commander of NATO Land Forces from 1957 to 1963.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Speidel_(General)
So your standards for “evident truth” are bizarre.
Brainstorm, like many people, has his thinking distorted by the “Nazi” meme. Nazi, Nazi, Nazi. They go on and on and on. What is a “Nazi officer”? What is a “Nazi scientist”? So if Uncle Sam used German scientists they were “Nazi scientists” but if Uncle Ivan used German scientists they were not? The truth is that they were quite simply German scientists and whether or not they were NS party or other org members, whether out of genuine persuasion or just for career purpose, was of no interest. What mattered was to advance technology and get stuff done, for both Uncle Sam and Uncle Ivan.
» It took Germans a generation to start confronting their recent past and as for other European nations you can forget it. «
More propaganda. Zionism needed a new generation of unsuspecting young Germans whose minds could be poisoned. The psycho poison has worked, hence the current disoriented murky merkely state of Germany.
Russians or uncritical pro-Russians who are so worked up about “Nazi, Nazi, Nazi” should read Suvorov’s Icebreaker to understand that the Death Match between Russia and Germany would not have taken place if Stalin had not deployed the Red Army in a deadly threat for Germany, simply because Germany was already at war with Britain, could not end that war, and had no need to open another huge front. Stalin thought he could outsmart everyone else, but he miscalculated badly, and the result was the American occupation of Europe. Basically, Stalin’s arrogance saved the Anglozionist plan for Russian-German death match. Good job.
Looking back in eternal anger or guilt is psycho nonsense. Russia has understood this. Germany has not. Flagellating Germans with “Nazi, nazi, nazi” only works for Zionist mental occupation.
I recommend the Gearoid O’Colmain interview posted by Noelm. Particularly to lefties.
Lumi
Excellent,agree
“For starters, there’s a blatant factual error in the part of Brainstorm’s verbose but somewhat errand elaboration that you uncritically quoted. The first Secretary General of NATO was Lord Ismay, a Brit”.
The author of this article may have been factually wrong with regard to the 1st secretary general of NATO being a Nazi but nevertheless the fact remains that after the war America imported hundreds of Nazi scientists to work for them :
How the United States welcomed Nazis after World War II
Years ago, when the United States and the Soviet Union had both experienced setbacks in their space programs, one of my professors suggested that our scientists and theirs may have flunked the same course at Heidelberg. It was no great secret that, in the waning days of World War II, the United States scrambled to capture German rocket scientists before the Soviets got them. Hitler’s rocket attacks on Great Britain had made clear that the Germans were far ahead of us in that technology. The Cold War was in its infancy, and the United States already foresaw using rockets to transport nuclear weapons.
Of the more than 1,600 Nazi scientists brought to the United States, Eric Lichtblau, author of “The Nazis Next Door,” singles out Wernher von Braun as the preeminent catch. Infamous for having led development of the German V-2 rocket, von Braun ended up in Huntsville, Ala., helping develop the rockets that eventually took American astronauts to the moon. It was well known that the V-2s had been built by slaves, mostly prisoners of war, many of whom were abused, starved and worked to death. Von Braun did not deny his role in this, yet with the aid of Walt Disney, who on his TV show repeatedly turned to von Braun as an expert on space travel, the German emerged as an American hero.
The imported German scientists were among thousands of ex-Nazis who came to the United States, including some of the worst participants in the brutal murder of millions. Many were recruited by the CIA and the FBI to obtain intelligence about the Soviets. Years later, when efforts were made to identify and expel them, the CIA and the FBI blocked the investigations.
This excerpt was from the Washington Post by the way. And furthermore it is a sign of the increasing moral degeneracy of the times we now live in that we start seeing so many attempts on the part of some people to whitewash and excuse Nazi crimes and atrocities or outright even deny they ever took place at all. And it doesn’t in the slightest matter if the Russians also made use of Nazi scientists after the war to advance their rocket programme, the difference being that in the Soviet Union at the time these people were treated as POWs and not welcome with open arms and given untold amount of dollars in funding just so uncle sam can carry on a covert cold war the Russians.
So Hitler attacked the Soviet Union in self defence, huh ? What a load of bul*sh*t.
» This excerpt was from the Washington Post by the way. «
Highly impressive. A reliable source of “evident truth”. I’d rather quote my washing machine.
What’s the point of serving up stereotypes such “increasing moral degeneracy of the times we now live in”? The problem is not moral degeneracy, the problem is Dummheit & Feigheit & Faulheit.
By the way, the Soviets also offered German scientists all-inclusive privilege packets. Which makes sense if you want scientists to perform. You treat them nicely. Only morons would treat them as POWs.
Right on Know the Truth.
German War Crimes are infamous just ask the Finns. They have mountains of documentation pertaining to German Crimes when Germans were in Finland. Same with the Norwegians, French and Italians.
We also know who build the gas ovens at Auschwitz don’t we? Don’t we?????
Crickets anyone????
p.s. again tell us why the Soviets built the Berlin Wall?
Low quality provocation. Will only fool morons.
Finnland was our ally, ask the Russians. They forced Finnland to open hostilities against Germany if they didn’t want their country to fall under Soviet occupation. Finnland and Germany have always been friends.
And “gas ovens at Auschwitz” just goes to show that you don’t even know the basic 101 of holohoaxer nonsense. Arthur R. Butz has an excellent intro on the question, it’s called “The Hoax of the 20th Century”, freely available as a PDF on the net.
By the way, Google and Yahoo have by now implemented full-spectrum censorship for German users regarding VHO.ORG (and possibly other revisionist sites), they won’t even show you hits when using the “site:vho.org” filter, so Germans are advised to use YANDEX.COM instead, which works fine.
Oh dear, I forgot the sarcasm tag at the end of my post.
You could also claim the Italians and French were working with the Germans as well as Finland. Fact remains, compared to Western liberation allied forces, the Germans were well behaved considering it was War.
The Soviets built the ovens in 47 and there is ample reports in US print media of the 6million number on multiple occasions, all before the end of WW2.
I think the real “Holocaust” was the Anglo Allied fire bombing of both the German and Japanese civilian population in true Jewish meaning of the word aka burnt sacrifice.
As for Google one can use Startpage which will give you anon Google results, Yandex or Duckduckgo. Anything but Google, Bing or Yahoo
Yes, excellent reply.
This is already the second propaganda article about defending the welfare and parasites migrants coming into Europe, German site rep was the first one as I mentioned it already below.
Why are these wrongly written texts being picked for publishing?
I see you are back to Suvorov again. Even though in that long ago thread he was a subject in,that issue was discussed to death. And countless posters trashed him as a Western agent. Do you really think we’ve forgotten that. Now having said that. I do agree with you that “both sides” used ex-nazi (or just German if you like) scientists after the war. There was one big difference there though.The ones that the US brought in, weren’t except once and a while, required to give up their nazi views (the book “Paperclip” was quite explicit on that). And the US hid as many crimes that they had committed from the public view as possible. While on the Soviet side ,it was known that they were enemies who were only spared because they could be of use to the USSR. Its a subtle difference. But still a pretty big one.
As to Hans Speidel I find it interesting that you attack him as a traitor for disobeying “Hitler”. Usually we (the anti-nazi “we”) would praise him for that,if nothing else (and there was “nothing else”.) His disobeying of Hitler was only when he didn’t pass on the order from Hitler to rocket and destroy Paris. Something untold millions that have visited the Louvre, Notre Dame,the Arch of Truimph,etc would be pleased with him for. He was also after that marginally involved with the July 1944 plot against Hitler. Which had it succeeded might have saved millions of German lives (as well as allied lives). And certainly might have saved Germany from the destruction of the last year of the war. It wasn’t as if there was any chance by then for the war to be won by Germany. That “boat sailed” at Stalingrad and Kursk. He was one of a long line of pro-nazi German officers that woke-up and decided ( once by started losing) that to save what was left of Germany Hitler had to go. Here is a line from his bio that pretty much says it all, ” Speidel was an ardent German nationalist and agreed with Hitler’s plans to establish a Greater Germany, but strongly disagreed with his racial policies”. I have a feeling that last part was only in there because today it’s PC to “always” say you disagreed with Hitler’s “racial policies” whether you really did or not.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Speidel
Remember the main crime the Nurnberg accused were convicted of was waging aggressive war, so he agreed with and supported the cardinal crime from which the others followed. This is played down nowadays because of the implications that might be drawn about some contemporary U.S. or UK politicians.
Hi Uncle Bob. I don’t remember if “countless posters trashed [Suvorov] as a Western agent”. (Just because it’s hard to keep track of postings made on this blog. Gotta revisit and remember etc. Which I don’t always do.)
Anyway, Suvorov/Resun did indeed defect to the Brits, that is well known, of course. But it matters little because what he says dovetails 100 % with Wehrmacht observations made in the summer of ’41 and with the whole déroulement of the first months, the Soviet collapse, the huge quantities of men and materiel that they abandoned, the lack of defensive preparations on their part, the lack of defensive training, the unsuitability of their attack tanks for Soviet roads, etc, etc, etc. The Soviets had their whole attack machinery dangerously exposed in forward positions ready to attack.
The material facts are so overwhelming that I cannot take anyone seriously who questions them on the grounds that “Suvorov was a defector”. These Soviet military hardware facts are facts on the ground and they have only one interpretation. Suvorov is not needed for me to know these facts, but he is the one who got famous at the international level exposing this truth about the Red Army, and his book is chock full of details, so I’m referring to him.
Hitler didn’t give any order to “destroy Paris”, he gave an order to defend Paris, which obviously would have entailed considerable destruction. As you would probably say: “Its a subtle difference. But still a pretty big one.” :)
Another guy who tried to give an order to defend Paris was … na? … Winston Churchill, on June 11, 1940, in Tours at the French headquarters. Defend Paris to the last house! Of course, the French ignored the nasty, ugly, hypocrite Churchill pig. That’s what they’re famous for, the Brits … fight to the last Frenchman.
By the way, the Brits and Amis had no qualms completely destroying Dresden which was overcrowded with refugees from Breslau and Silesia in general who fled the mass raping and murdering Red Army. As well as many other German cities. Let’s ignore the relatively vain question of historic architecture, but the Brit and Ami napalm droppers clearly tried to cause maximum human suffering by targetting densely populated residential areas, as they did in Japan, as they did in Korea, and as they did in Vietnam.
Last time I was in London I went to the Imperial War Museum. It’s huge. The whole freaking museum doesn’t have one bit about how this was a series of ghastly and despicable war crimes by the Brits. Instead, the entire top floor is devoted to the holohoax and the gas chamber lie. Shame on Britain!
Your lecturing about what Germany should have done etc is also ill informed. Germany was caught between a rock and a hard place with no natural resources such as iron and oil to fight the war. From January 1943, there were no more options for Germany as the Allies had convened at the Casablanca conference to go for no less than unconditional surrender, with depopulation plans like Morgenthau in the background. So there was no realistic option to surrender.
Bottom line, the victors get to write the history, but what goes around comes around.
Uncle Bob 1
As you love history,maybe you will find interesting to look at this in a perspective of ww2 after 70 years,what was told,what not and why.We are sometime biased too,they whom participated in the war know the truth,but today most of them have gone bringing with them that truth.
http://www.jewishmag.com/158mag/hitler_jewish_soldiers/hitler_jewish_soldiers.htm
phew, extensive article but points concisely made.Thank you.
I think I remember info coupla months ago confirmation that Saudi had funded an extensive network of Wahabi madras over large areas of Europe-I could easily suspect these would be very handy to convert muslims to this sect when faced with an increasing vociferous native population and then used to forment Wahabi action in response ….its all going extremist……all moving to the “right”……………Saudi is in the plan and has been planning it too? All that Eurpean property they have been buying up for decades, a joint US-Saudi economic plan being emplaced against euro etc?
Only thing now left is to move IS to Europe to save them the wrath of the oppressed…
Daesh, Turkish Leadership Holding ‘Secret Contacts’ – Lavrov
Russia has information on secret contacts between Turkey and the leadership of the Islamic State, according to the Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov.
MOSCOW (Sputnik) – Russia has information on secret contacts between Turkey and the leadership of the Islamic State, which is prohibited in numerous countries including Russia and the United States, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said.
http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160210/1034498627/daesh-turkey-connection-lavrov.html
Yuropeans Get ready for this… Its in your future..
https://twitter.com/HKX07/status/696647466620354560
The next batch of moderate rebels.. coming home to make your moderately comfortable socialist yuropean life moderately hellish..
https://twitter.com/HKX07/status/696449550165237760
Britain has returned more than 2,700 young asylum seekers to war-torn countries in the Middle East over the past nine years – double the number originally claimed by the government.
Although most of the young people were sent back to Afghanistan, hundreds were returned to Iraq, Iran, Libya and Syria, Immigration Minister James Brokenshire said this week. The revised figures released by the Home Office reveal 60 teenagers have been deported to Iraq since 2014, the year Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) took control of large parts of the country.
The revelations come in response to questions from Labour MP Louise Haigh and the Bureau of Investigative Journalism (TBIJ). Brokenshire was forced to issue a correction to figures released by the Home Office last fall that underestimated the scale of the deportations by 250 percent.”
https://www.rt.com/uk/332009-child-refugees-deported-war/
That was great,it amused me a lot, just to add as a continuation of your words: …with a moderate sharia law
I saw that before posted on FB. I think it gives a very “accurate” portrayal of what Europeans “really” would feel and do in that situation.I was torn over the pranks. First I felt sorry,second,I wanted to laugh,and third,was a feeling of “karma fulfilled”.So really I’ll have to say “you make your bed,now lay in it”.
We’ll send in the warships, says Nato: Vessels set to patrol the Aegean Sea in attempt to stop migrants crossing
German chancellor called allies to send vessels to patrol the Turkish coast
Defence ministers are considering military action to stop people smugglers
Decision could be seen as admission that EU has failed to tackle the influx
Downing Street refused to comment on whether British vessels are sent
For more on the EU refugee crisis visit http://www.dailymail.co.uk/refugeecrisis
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3439756/We-ll-send-warships-says-Nato-Vessels-set-patrol-Aegean-Sea-attempt-stop-migrants-crossing.html#ixzz3zkxLiGKz
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3439711/Three-million-migrants-come-Warning-new-influx-76-000-cross-Med-past-six-weeks.html
and
https://www.rt.com/news/331981-trump-merkel-putin-refugees/
extract
“The real estate billionaire was speaking to the French conservative magazine Valeurs Actuelles, saying the German chancellor had made “a tragic mistake with the migrants.”
“If you don’t treat the situation competently and firmly, yes, it’s the end of Europe. You could face real revolutions,” Trump was quoted as saying, as cited by Reuters.”
Again, I don’t really like it when Europe in general and the EU in particular are depicted as some hapless, undeserving victims of subversive plotting and coercion from without. This kind of reasoning totally misses the point: What is the EU? Whose interests does it serve? What is its entire raison d’être? Also: What are the prevalent attitudes and expectations of its “home” population? Most notably, it looks even worse when alleged “mass rapings” are taken as facts and not as the outright media hoaxes that they are.
Now, EU is an association of Western Europe’s leading industrial and financial corporations. It is entirely committed to neoliberalism and imperialism. Ever-increasing corporate profitability, consolidation, and power are the ultimate goals being served 24/7. Sure, all of Europe’s politicos and presstitues — along the entire bogus spectrum from “Left” to “Right” — are obedient puppets taking orders while forever spouting tripe, but it is ultimately European Big Business that gives them these orders, with or without the involvement of US imperialism.
On this basis, one shouldn’t be surprised at all of what’s going on. Looking back a little, the wondrous “joys of 1989” stand out as the historical watershed. Once the socialist countries were destroyed, imperialist warmongering and lawlessnes immediately exploded as Iraq and Yugoslavia showed, accompanied by the ditching of social concessions in the West. 25+ years on, the neoliberal rot in the EU has become 100% irreversible, except with the help of a Russian invasion proper. Despite much clamour to the contrary, the subject populations in the EU just don’t want to break ranks with the system. True, there is mounting hatred of the EU all right but for very selfish reasons. The surge of the populist Right is based entirely on the desire of the beneficiaries of Western imperialism to be spared the social consequences of imperialist globalization. As for the Left, it’s just pathetic and ridiculous. Tsipras in Greece personifies the Left’s “Full Spectrum Impotence” convincingly, grovelling before the Troika and NATO blathering about ‘European values’ while Greece is collapsing. Add to this European countries with the ‘political calibre’ of Poland, Ukraine, and the Baltics and it becomes quite clear that the rot goes very deep indeed.
The refugee crisis is a ‘joint effort’ between US and European Big Business whose love of deluded Whiteys is, shall we say, “somewhat overestimated”.
I don’t know where all the Anglo readers get this “mass rapings” stuff from. Such has never been claimed in Germany or by German MSM. Dozens of cases of molestation by migrants, this is what has been claimed. And one (1) case of rape. And I don’t see any reason to doubt this. Where do you get this mass rape stuff from? The grapevine? Don’t read German?
I didn’t put any faith in the rapefest nonsense, least of all the allegation of any such thing going on in Sweden. It was the author of the piece we’re commenting on who couldn’t resist the temptation of swallowing the rubbish peddled by the MSM rumour mill.
» It was the author of the piece we’re commenting on who couldn’t resist the temptation of swallowing the rubbish peddled by the MSM rumour mill. «
Okay. But not the German MSM rumour mill. Because they didn’t spread such rumours. Quite the contrary. So whose MSM was it? Swedish? Russian? English? Or is it rather the non-MSM rumour mill?
Kleinbürger, ich bitte dich: Sei nicht so faul! Die sogenannten “Sex-Übergriffe in Köln” waren fast alles worüber die Nachrichten gingen Anfang Januar. Und ich habe die feste Überzeugung, daß Saker und Brainstorm — im Gegensatz zu mir — nicht die schwedische MSM Nachrichten verfolgt haben.
Point was: There was nothing about mass rapes in the German MSM. Nothing. Sex Übergriff only means, for example, touching a girl’s tits en passant. It’s not a crime. Rape, on the other hand, is. Klaro? :)
All right, then Brainstorm’s judgement becomes even sillier. To wit:
Merkel and Germany wanted to build North Stream. They are ever ready to break the wall and start dealing business with Russia; of course they had tremendous exchange with Russia…Then suddenly… touching girls’ tits in Cologne happened. And not only Cologne clashes with radicalized Muslim immigrant groups are all over Germany
Who would have thought that touching some tits might trash North Stream. Merkel gone mad out of jealousy?
I admit that die Lügenpresse in Germany has way more important subjects to deal with. Smearing Putin and Russia seems to be at the very top of the list.
I really appreciate your sense of humor Nussiminen and Lumi . Sexübergriff an passent…ha,ha
Sometimes we need this,thanks
» Who would have thought that touching some tits might trash North Stream. «
Hehe … it’s called geopolitits. :)
@ Lumi:
“[..] Point was: There was nothing about mass rapes in the German MSM. Nothing. Sex Übergriff only means, for example, touching a girl’s tits en passant. It’s not a crime. Rape, on the other hand, is. Klaro? :)”
To be fair… not really.
And first of all I wanna make clear, I’m not 100% familiar with the German Legal System and/or laws.
BUT! In plenty of countries, touching a stranger… this is just gentle touching in an innocent non-sexual area, say; the forearm, just tapping it, no heavy-petting involved, let alone hitting, twisting, scratching (etc)
It is considered ASSAULT if the victim says s/he didn’t want to be touched.
Sure, it’s true such law doesn’t get enforced as often as it perhaps should, but it is against the law to physically touch anybody without you previously knowing them, or without their consent.
This is also why trigger-happy cops are free to taser your ass (and worse) if you dare to touch them.
It’s because it’s considered assault under the law and they can lawfully claim they felt physically threatened and acted in response to such threat, which in turn, it’s also why so many cops walk away Scott-free after committing hideous acts of police brutality. Granted: they get to be extra violent on their victims and they do get special legal protections if they’re touched because they’re law enforces.
On the flip side of that coin, if you try to save a person about to jump off a bridge by grabbing his hand, if he so chooses, he can also sue you for assault and chances are you’ll go to jail for doing a good deed.
So no. It’s not a case that rape is against the law, but and I quote: “touching a girl’s tits” is not a crime. In fact, that’ll provably class as aggravated assault, purely by its rather obvious sexual nature.
Here’s an example from the Canadian Criminal Code [but as I’ve said, plenty of other countries share the same definition of assault]
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What Is Assault? – 1. Definition of Assault in the Criminal Code:
The definition of assault can be found in s. 265 of the Canadian Criminal Code.
“An assault can happen whenever someone touches another person and that person does not want to be touched. An assault can be anything from a punch in the face to touching someone on the shoulder, as long as the contact happened without the consent (permission) of the person being touched. The important thing is not the amount of force used, but whether the touching was allowed and whether it was intended [..]”
http://www.slsedmonton.com/criminal/assault/
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-TL2Q
” don’t know where all the Anglo readers get this “mass rapings” stuff from. Such has never been claimed in Germany or by German MSM. Dozens of cases of molestation by migrants, this is what has been claimed”.
Well maybe they got it from Liz above. According to her it would seem there is a rape committed on pure and pristine Swedish womanhood every minute throughout the day by “rapefugees” as she tends to call them.
I agree that the “rape ” charges are very overblown. But even if not rapes,assaults and molestation’s are bad enough. If your neighbor in your town asks you to stay at your house because there was a fire at his home. And you say yes. He moves in and then starts “slapping you and your family around”. Demands you feed and support him. And assaults your wife and kids. I doubt you would be “welcoming” any longer.
But since some people in your “town” are responsible for the fire in his home. There may be a bit of “poetic justice” in the person now having to stay in your house. But still there is no excuse acceptable for his response to your hospitality. Since “you” (most European citizens) didn’t burn his house.
Finally, the first article on The Saker that helps readers to understand what could be described as the “weapon of mass-migration” and how it functions. This topic will stay with us for the foreseeable future.
Will it work? Not really, but that’s just my guess.
You may remember newspaper articles claiming that some of the Maidan snipers had received training in Poland. And look what we see happening in Sweden now:
(BBC) Fourteen Polish far-right activists have been arrested in Sweden on suspicion of planning to attack asylum seekers with axes, iron pipes and knives, police say.
I’m willing to call it a coincidence; provided there are no more coincidences.
My understanding was that the snipers at Maydan came from Poland. Wasn’t that fact mentioned/admittedby an older Polish diplomat?
Correct.
https://www.rt.com/news/251961-ukraine-maidan-snipers-poland/
nazi gets a bad rap, holohoax never happened – David Cole
“the greatest story never told” i.e Putin is equivalent to Hitler and yes its a cmpliement
Thoughts? Serious ones, after viewing provided material.
it matters little whether the boat sinks to the left or to the right or breaks in the middle
Great article. One of the most brilliant articles by guest authors so far.
Plus it results in fascism supporters unmasking themselves in the commentaries.
Let’s not forget that fascism is the end result of failed socialism ( an oxymoron I know ). Europe is collapsing as is economies around the globe. History repeats- Nationalism is inevitable.
The bigger part of low level members of the German AfD are nazis whereas most of their supporters and voters are not.
Brainstorm,
Nicely done, with many probing insights.
Many fear that Francois Hollande this situation could extends to the election in 2017 to prevent the coming to power of forces that voters want (such as, for example, the National Front).
The people of Europe are responding in – Defensive Mode, Better than not responding at all.
The National Front, and all the Le Pens, and Dieudonné and Alain Soral, have forged, in France, the largest & best opposition to the Zionist American New World Order; England has Forage, and Belgium, Laurent. There will be more.
In America, our few resisters are in exile, Ecuadorian Embassy, Prison for life, or dead. Ron Paul and Cynthia McKinney do their best. They operate outside of the mainstream media, somewhere in “Never Never Land.” Sometimes, another comments on the Saker.
For the Restoration of our Republic!
Of course:
“Many fear that Francois Hollande this situation could extends to the election in 2017 to prevent the coming to power of forces that voters want (such as, for example, the National Front).”
is a quote from the essay by Brainstorm, where he makes a key point.
Democracy or disintegration are the EU’s only options, Greece’s ex-finance minister, Yanis Varoufakis, said before the official launch of a pan-European political movement he hopes will help tackle the nationalization of policies in the 28-member union.
The “spectacular failure of the EU” to implement sound economic and refugee policies has tilted its members towards nationalism, the bike-riding former PM of Greece said on Tuesday, speaking to reporters at the Volksbühne Theater in Berlin.
The remarks came ahead of the official Tuesday night launch of DiEM25 – the Democracy in Europe Movement 2025.
“The European Union is disintegrating, and it is doing so quite fast,” he said. “The process of depoliticizing decision making at the heart of Europe, at our core European institutions” has been ongoing for decades, he said, adding that the EU’s “bureaucratic, technocratic decision-making process” has amounted to “authoritarianism.The vast majority of Europeans feel “there is lack of legitimacy,” the ex-leader of Greece’s left-wing government, who led Athens in negotiating with Greece’s troika creditors, said, urging the EU to put “the Deimos back into Democracy.”
Describing the EU’s current state as “a post-modern version of the 1930s,” Varoufakis warned against a return to individual nation states and “building walls again.” He also warned against turning Greece and Italy into “concentration camps” for refugees. In answering a question on the refugee crisis posed by RT’s Peter Oliver, Varoufakis asserted that the EU needed to look “[Turkish President Recep] Erdogan in the eyes as Europeans with a coherent policy” from a position of “solidarity within Europe.”
In November, Erdogan reportedly threatened to “put refugees on buses” and flood Europe with migrants if EU leaders did not offer him enough cash to help curb the influx of asylum seekers. The information was revealed in a leaked report published by Greek financial news website euro2day.gr on Tuesday.
Diem25 will serve as a platform for mediating negotiations, according to Varoufakis.
He stated that the “old fashioned system of creating a political party in the context of a nation state” has failed to work in the context of the EU.
The only alternative is “a political movement that starts everywhere in Europe at once: cross border, independent, prior to political party affiliations,” he said. The movement will have “one single objective – to get Europeans around a metaphorical (digital) table …to discuss as Europeans their common problems and solutions.”
The movement’s manifesto says that its goal is to democratize Europe by 2025 before it goes “past the point of no return” and to establish “full transparency in decision-making.” In the roadmap outlined by the movement, the manifesto’s authors propose setting up a Constitutional Assembly of representatives elected on trans-national tickets within two years.”
https://www.rt.com/news/331927-democracy-europe-movement-disintegration/
Varoufakis was not PM,he was Financve Minister in the first Tsipras government.he also said :
Angela Merkel is promoting the best way to takle the refugees by opening the borders
“The movement’s manifesto says that its goal is to democratize Europe by 2025 before it goes ‘past the point of no return’ and to establish ‘full transparency in decision-making’. In the roadmap outlined by the movement, the manifesto’s authors propose setting up a Constitutional Assembly of representatives elected on trans-national tickets within two years.”
Sounds great. Alas, it is way too late already. The EU is doomed — we’ll see its utter collapse within a mere couple of years. Most likely, the Eurocrats will proudly leave the mess behind settling in some other part(s) of the world. And what does this hell-of-a-manifesto have to say about the banks and the corporatocracy behind the political charlatans?
“According to Lavrov, Moscow was “astonished” by the position voiced by the German Chancellor Angela Merkel during Turkey voyage about Russian airstrikes being to blame for the growing influx of refugees from the Middle East to Europe.
The German leader did not say a word about terrorists in Syria being supported by the trafficking of arms, munitions and other necessary supplies from Turkey, which openly blackmails the EU over the refugee problem, Lavrov said’
extract from
https://www.rt.com/news/332026-turkey-talks-isis-lavrov/
goodbye Merkel………..
Assassination attempt on Bashar Al-Assad at his mom funeral. #Syria
The Jerusalem post confirmed that #Assad survived the assassination attempt but 4 of his convoy members died.#Syria
Syrian president survived alleged assassination attempt, but 4 of his convoy members were killed in the attack, when Grad missiles launched by the opposition faction hit the convoy.
Ahrar al-Sham, a central opposition group in Syria, has claimed responsibility for launching missiles against the convoy of Syrian President Bashar Assad during the funeral for his mother in al-Qardaha on Monday, Syrian media reported on Wednesday.
Assad survived the alleged assassination attempt, but four of his convoy members were killed in the Grad missile attack.
The reported attack on Monday took place within a Ahrar al-Sham’s wider battle against Russian targets in Assad’s hometown, the city of Qardaha, which currently hosts many Russian forces.
On Saturday, Syrian media announced the death of Assad’s mother, Anisa Makhlouf, at the age of 86. Makhlouf was the wife of late president Hafez Assad, who ruled Syria from 1971 until his death in 2000.
http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Report-Leading-Syrian-opposition-faction-struck-Bashar-Assads-mothers-funeral-444444
Since when do we believe any of the silly stories about Syria from the Jerusalem Post?
Good article, except for the social-justice nonsense about anti-immigrant parties being fascist. European governments have callously subjected their people to a horde of welfare-subsidized immigrants, mostly young able-bodied males, many of whom don’t understand or appreciate European culture. Citizens of Germany, Sweden and Denmark have every right to defend their own interests and oppose the violence perpetrated by the criminal element among this un-vetted, unfiltered refugee population. Note also that the rape crisis is not nonsense; it is the mainstream media that is trying to suppress that truth. The neoconservative leaders of the EU don’t care one iota for the safety of women and children; they act only to obey their American and corporate masters.
Agree with you, but there is strong tendency here in various articles to convince the readers about the right of the economical and welfare migrants to come and take their portion – this same opinion was defended in the German Site-report written by C. The author did not give any arguments for this opinion, beside an attempt to blame all Europe for the crazy things happening in Africa and Middle East.
If you realize that the planners and organizers of all the wars are in London, Washington and Paris, it really does not make any sense to make European accept that their culture and future is being destroyed by foreign powers. Yes, Germans are under full control of the USA, but is this the reason why they should accept parasites in the country from poor ME of NA countries? Really?
Why are Czechs, Slovaks, Hungarians or Poles forced to feed parazites in their countries? Please why?
To be honest, I really don’t like this strange propaganda being published here and starting to be suspisous about this blog.
“but is this the reason why they should accept parasites in the country from poor ME of NA countries? Really?”
All of these “parasites” are human.
Some or many or most are from poor countries due to colonial rape.
Undoubtedly some of these people, given the opportunity, could knock the intellectual socks off you.
Do you think you are better than these people because you had the luck (or misfortune perhaps) to be born with a silver spoon in you mouth?
PS: what exactly is it about your “culture” which sets you apart as exceptional?
I don’t think that Weston feels himself exceptional as you said,rather he try to say that what is too much is too much,never the less you’re also right,they have the right for a better life.It sounds confusing but the reality on the ground is more confusing
Why are Muslims coming to “Christian ” countries ? Why is Allah allowing this to happen to the “true believers”. Why should western values be used as justification to help people who hate western values and are intent on destroying the west and all that the Great Satan rules. Why don’t these people stay in their own countries with their own values and let Allah sort it out
Arizona An-cap and Weston,
You both nailed it.
Time to train et give nuclear weapons to Libya, Syria, Afghanistan…not to mention looted countries from Africa, South America & south Asia.
So it is, so it mote be.
The last day’s Lavrov has put out a cryptic story about the US studying a very “concrete plan Russia has given them” for ending the Syrian War. I wonder what that is about. What does the plan say (he won’t say). Is it a “game changer”,or just another good idea broached by Russia to be trashed by the US. He seems to be implying that it was “something big”,so I do wonder what is in it?
That’s very funny Uncle Bob, in fact you finally made me laugh! Everyone knows that Lavrov is the world’s arch diplomat, so “he won’t say” – it’s the waiting is killing ’em – that’s the whole point!!
Please help me understand what is going on in this video, said to be of an annual meeting of Ukrainian lawyers.
It’s as calm as a brawl in the Rada, plus…there is a woman using her breast milk as a squirt gun.???
This is not “brainstorm”, this is brainwash. The same old, same old bla bla Story of Nazis all over Europe. In fact, if European contries doing the Putin Thing (defending their own interest against the Internationalist Mafia), are all Nazis?
Why on earth should Germany take more than a million of “refugees” from Africa and Middle East and feed them? We’re not even responsible for one of the wars in their countries!
I only recently found this blog and appreciated very much the inside thougts they gave about Russia, but this is crap, to say the least. Or propaganda, feeding a planned civil war in Europe? No, thanks. Think I’m out again.
“Why on earth should Germany take more than a million of “refugees” from Africa and Middle East and feed them?”
I am sure the German government and its intelligence agency have a concrete plan.
mach dir keine Sorgen :)
For reasons I do not understand I was unable to reply to Sakers post.
Saker. I think there is a difference between how you and Martin have been treated. He has been attacked personally and apparently for a long time. Some participants questioned your attitude to the immigration problem in Europe and that is different. You don’t live here anymore, but some of us do. I hear of rapes and murders all the time in a language you don’t speak. 40 percent of the population say immigration has become the biggest problem. The government has begun borrowing lots of money to cope with the problem. People are not stupid, they know who has to pay the bill. Foreigners were welcome here in the past, but mass immigration is a different thing. Some think Europe gets what it deserves. Does that include countries with no colonial past? Besides, colonialism is an elite thing and colonialism always starts at home in order to domesticate the people. I understand how Martin feels and I understand you didn’t like the opposition but that is different. You do a good work on the blog, but everybody does not agree with everything you say all the time.
‘no soup for you’ … mod-hs
I am a National Socialist, call me a Nazi if you like.
The description of National Socialists and Fascists in this article, as evil and hatefull, is totally off the mark.
We do what we do because of a love for our families, our people and humanity, in that order.
We strive to do what all other peoples on Earth are freely allowed to do, to stand for the interests of our own people, and because of it we are demonised and attacked with extreme prejudice.
European culture has been adopted and adapted by all the peoples on this planet to varying degrees making it hard to discern it’s presence, yet it none the less exists.
You are just now reading this message on an artifact of European culture, you most likely eat your dinner with European cultural implements, you most assuredly are wearing culturally European clothes and every day when you drive to work you do so in a vehicle that is the result of European culture.
All the peoples of Earth enjoy the benefits of European culture, they take them for granted, they believe it is their right to partake in these benefits and yet they vilify the people and the culture that has spawned these benefits.
I believe that all mankind is equally entitled to health and happiness though I do not believe in biological equality, I believe in spiritual equality before god whatever that word may mean to you, and yet… tell me, who is the real bigoted hater here?
The National Socialist seeking justice for his and all people by making the jewish death cultists behind the current world order accountable for their actions, or the gullible internet social justice warrior going along with the establishment anti-European Communist rethoric?
” I believe in spiritual equality before god whatever that word may mean to you, and yet… tell me, who is the real bigoted hater here?”
Very good point !
Oh dear… oh dear… it turns out the ‘Refugee Crisis’ is all down to Putin’s fault…
Putin Uses the Refugee Crisis to Weaken Merkel
http://carnegieeurope.eu/strategiceurope/?fa=62692
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Of course there’s absolutely not a thing that your usual suspects [Carnagies/Soros/Erdogoon/NATO/Tusk.etc] won’t blame the Russians for. And perhaps that was the last missing piece on this refugee puzzle as detailed in this excellent article by Andrew Korybko, which I guarantee it will ruffle-up some feathers amongst the snakes-in-the-grass posing as devote Russophiles.
About time someone had the guts to call them out!
Nice one Andrew, at least ‘our side’ can count on some genuine people such as yourself :)
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US Blames Putin When Erdogan Caught Weaponizing Refugees
“[..] Strange Bedfellows:
Up until the point where the US had to begrudgingly acknowledge that strategically engineered “Weapons of Mass Migration” were being used against the EU and predictably blame it all on Russia, its allied “NGOs” and information outlets had categorically denied that such a planned phenomenon was taking place, slurring anyone who dared to even infer this possibility as being “racist”, “fascist”, and “white supremacist”. Astonishingly, this mainstream media-imposed “political correctness” and ideological intimidation was aggressively repeated by social and alternative media “activists” who fashioned themselves as (militant) far-left “anti-imperialists” — typically the sort of individuals who speak out against the US’ “thought police” or at least respect others’ right to do so.
These “anti-imperialists” claim to support Russia’s role in the world, yet state that border controls and assimilative & integrational immigration policies are some kind of “new fascism”. Apparently they never read President Putin’s 2012 manifesto on the topic, otherwise they would know that the Russian leader has a very firm and publicly declared stance against open borders and the Western conception of “multiculturalism”. By attacking concerned individuals that espouse these exact same principles as “racist”, “fascist”, and “white supremacist”, they’re indirectly attacking Russia and associating it with those slurs. It’s a documented fact that the tentacles of unipolar influence are long and deeply embedded in all sorts of social and political movements, so it’s reasonable to question whether these “anti-imperialist” voices are just “misguided activists” or if they’re really just anti-Russian provocateurs with an ideological ax to grind”
More at the article> http://sputniknews.com/columnists/20160211/1034590138/putin-erdogan-refugees-europe.html
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-TL2Q
There is so much great information and ideas in this article and importantly lots of good questions, really tough and scary ones at that. It sounds like the author could write volumes and volumes about all the areas covered and in this instance tries to impart these thoughts in just one article.
There still seems to be so many more questions than answers as well as propositions in this whole business. But the whole issue of throngs of people going into Europe directly comes back to Turkey. I think that no one is directing Turkey but Erdogan and his gang. His blackmail is not going to work in the long term. I think he intends to get very nasty. Perhaps Erdogan will reveal a whole lot of secrets about all the players who came to attack Syria. But he has his own much bigger agenda. But at usual there are always several parties using/piggy backing on events to further their agenda and obviously that is the case here.
Yes there has been the opinion of Merkel needing cheap labour but I don’t know whether Erdogan is interested to act on behalf of the USA to use the refugee weapon as a means to coerce Germany away from any improvements in their relationship with Russia. I think Turkey right now is at an all-time low in its relationship with the USA. But yes, certainly Turkey will be desperate to recuperate the lost income from various sources.
That information about Soros funded information booklets is fascinating but I am still trying to work out what Soros’ agenda is here and how he/his agenda benefits from this all and why it would coincide or work in with that of Erdogan’s. But in the context of a Europe getting closer to Russia, to BRICS and all the amazing opportunities of the Eurasian Union, Soros would want to ensure this never happens.
As for depopulation of lands rich in resources, yes and Ukrainian Nazi and in the Middle East and Africa, Takfiri terror gangs have played a vital role in achieving that. But unless one subscribes to the theory of deliberate destruction and further control over Europe to keep her subservient how does this depopulation and redirection to Europe benefit any of those in power in Europe?
Surely if the “Masters of the Universe” want to have a stronger, stranglehold over humanity, and in this case in Europe, is this the way they would achieve it by this flow of humans, many quite troublesome, all in aid of ushering in totalitarian, fascist governments? There are far too many powerful political, industrial figures who are not from this small Nazi class that never died out…surely?
My mind is open to all the arguments and propositions. I think we are going to have a lot more discussions and for quite some time till we all feel that we understand completely what this is all about. We will all bring forth pieces of what we think form part of the puzzle.
But who benefits? Who loses?
I don’t think NATO is behind helping Erdogan. I think they are hanging him out to dry and then look forward to a more compliant ruler in Turkey so that they still have their long arm into Asia Minor. They know this guy is totally crazy and dangerous and that they’ve lost him.
But this sentence in the article is key:
“They are the NATO member and the most important US/NATO ally but yet, still not a member of EU? This situation really bothers Turkey which still dreams their old Ottoman imperial dreams of returning to Balkans, increasing their influence in the region as well as in Europe.”
And here this sentence lays out the dilemma which some really unworldly, naive types fail to understand and seem to put a lot of us in the former category!:
“Europe is facing two opposite sides, both equally extreme in their nature: right sector with their well-known ideologies which will attract more members or fans with each conflict, and on the other side, undefined but unsusceptible high number or radicalized Muslims among which there are DAESH and radicalized Islamist mercenaries, infiltrated into the European countries within the huge and continuous influx of immigrants.”
Another key sentence in the article to ponder on:
“Weakening of EU institutions or eventual collapse of Euro zone common monetary system will artificially strengthen US dollar, prolonging for a while the collapse of US economy and banking system deeply dependent on military sector,”.
And yes, the fearful citizenry of the EU may be so shell shocked by the coming events that, like those Americans reeling from the 9/11 experience, they will acquiesce to the new measures and laws imposed on them.
And states do get punished by the Master of the Universe bully, I don’t deny that. I didn’t think about the Paris example or that of Nord Stream. I have often thought about what the USA would do if Germany stopped being its slave.
So in all these propositions put here in this article the question one could pose is; whether it is possible that a deal between the USA, some central powerful core of fascists in Europe and a “Takfiri” deal (to act as the gangs and later on fill the ranks of a new type of army) is in the making. That is what the writer seems to suggest. Are those Takfiris really stupid enough to believe their end of the bargain will be upheld?
And another two key sentences in the article:
“Would each particular country in the dissolved EU, have enough strength and courage to resist the pressure from US? and, “Americans still need NATO. But US do not need EU. That is the fact. And we are looking the outcomes.”
And this sentence referring to sections of Muslim migrants and refugees and comparing how Jews were used prior to WWII in Germany:
“You need someone to blame for the social, monetary and political collapse, and you need urgently to find, or – create the “enemy”. This is what is happening right now.”
With the Takfiris being bombed out of existence in Iraq and Syria their centre will shift most probably to Libya which is so close to Europe.
The solutions suggested for Europe to save itself don’t sound easy and they sound painful as the Empire will strike and play the dirtiest games that are still in the making.
What a terrifying article.
13 February 2016 12:00 Munich, Germany
MEDVEDEV’s speech at the panel discussion.
MEDVEDEV ON THE IMMIGRANT CRISIS:
“Human capital is degenerating in the countries the refugees are leaving. And these countries’ development prospects have taken a downward turn. The ongoing migration crisis is rapidly acquiring the features of a humanitarian catastrophe, at least in some parts of Europe. Social problems are growing too, along with mutual intolerance and xenophobia. Not to mention the fact that hundreds and thousands of extremists enter Europe under the guise of being refugees. Other migrants are people of an absolutely different culture who only want to receive monetary benefits without doing anything to earn them. This poses a very real danger to the common economic space. The next targets will be the cultural space and even the European identity. We watch with regret how invaluable mechanisms, which Russia also needs, are being destroyed. I am referring to the actual collapse of the Schengen zone.”
I deleted your post Goddy becuase it’s not acceptable to put a whole – and quite big post – in capital letters. It’s equivalent ot shouting. Also, there were a lot of unacceptable obscenities. If you would like to post again in a more restrained and discursive manner, we would be very happy to see what you have to say.
Thanks a lot. Mod. PS
G
What would happen if and when Russia, China and Germany(!) decide to destroy the USD by introducing a gold/silver injection into the RUB, RMB and the EUR!! The EUR is essential because the other two are not able (yet) to take the place of the USD.
This would get:
– Deutsche off the hook (derivative exposure of 50+T *USD*)
– put the Club Med countries back in bizz again (enough gold still available in those countries)
– Turn Europe East in a hurry
– Kill the USD system and thus the US (or rather the ones playing the games)
Instead of destroying the whole one would merely take out the US (meddling).. sounds like a fairly good deal to me. Looks like the key is in the hand of Russia and China. The financial infra seems to be in place so that is no longer an impediment.
Add to the above the fact that the Iranians want EUR for their oil and one has to ask: what is going on? WHY would they want EUR, IF it is destined to be evaporated? Or is it ..???
My money is on the Iranians knowing something nobody is even contemplating!
Capitalism in crisis brings fascism at home, imperialist wars abroad. The ultimate aim is to destroy organized labour and atomize the working class. The people of Europe need to join across class lines and forget these ethnic, religious and national divisions. The capitalist class doesn’t care who it exploits the color of the skin or the god people worship, they care only about extracting the last ounce of value from living labour-the only source of new value as dictated by the laws of capitalism itself, which measures value according to living labour time expended on the product under conditions of generalized commodity production. By virtue of having nothing to sell on the market save labour power-the owner to the means of production purchases this labour power-but this labour power can produce more than what it receives in a wage-this surplus is appropriated by the owner of the means of production. Join across class lines against the 1% the true oppressor’s and socialize the relations of production. Join together and kick NATO out of Europe, Join in the Eurasian project for a multipolar world-a world that will inevitably have to transition to socialism eventually as well or the rivalries and crisis will resume unabated. All other aspect of production are socialized, that is integrated on a global basis-only private ownership and direction of surplus or profit remains in private hands. The time for a transition to a post capitalist world is long past due. It is that or the mutual ruination of all living species on the planet.
RR
removed no attacking other commenters.Mod TR Socialism is collapsing around the world because it is against the inherent nature of man . A nations wealth is not its labour ( if it was China would have been running the world a long time ago ) it is its productivity. This is why Japan ( a country with few natural resources and a small population ) became the second largest economy in the world . The 1% you talk about are not the wealthy, it is Goverment around the world stealing the fruit of people’s productivity through taxation and outright theft . You need to read history through glasses with 20/20 vision and see that this has all been done before and it will be done again- alas that is the inherent nature of Goverment and men who want to rule the world
Not sure why the word “drivel” is not acceptable but the word ” nonsense ” is. ? Same meaning ?
@Hayek
> Socialism is collapsing around the world because it is against the inherent nature of man
Yeah, sure.
You repeat what the Necon AZ MSmedia are telling you.
Problem is only: What is collapsing has nothing to do with Socialism nor Communism.
And” It “is” not “collapsing”, buth rather it gets collapsed by brute force: http://thesaker.is/french-state-persecutes-salah-lamrani-a-member-of-the-french-saker-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-211847
Hi Saker,
I read and will have to re-read your post “Immigrant Crisis, Fact, Myth or Plot?”
I was trying to understand why Turkey would want to be in the EU (as I said I’ll have to read it again and the links), but I was wondering why would Turkey want to be in the EU?
So I started to think about it… and I figured- it helps them trade with the EU countries even though the bankers shove them further into debt…. like the rest of us… but then I thought, “well China can trade with everybody, so (forgetting about Turkey for a second) wouldn’t Greece be able to leave the EU, default on their debt, and be like New Zealand or Canada (me) or whoever?
I can’t understand why someone would want to be in the EU? But then I thought maybe because of trade… and with that comes debt…. and I guess the world media could talk about them like Syria or China (hate).. and NGOs, terrorists attacks like Paris attacks (false flag though?) and Cologne shit…
which would explain why Greece would want to be in the EU… but why Turkey.. or anybody really? I’m lost a bit on this.
Great article. I’m going to read it slower and follow the links.
Thanks,
This article is awesome. He, or she, is exactly on point. I could even see it as the World Trade Center fell on 9/11. I watched it come down on television. Year 2001. Now 2016.
Extraordinarily well planned. The engulfment of Europe is well along. The only way to save itself would be to eliminate the European Union, the writer is completely right. Yet those who grew up knowing WW11 cling to the EU with an illogical life-death passion. They terrify me.
I thank whoever wrote and posted this.
Europe is turning, The set up sexual molestation US set up in Cologne New Years Eve was a perfect way to show Europe how little time they have to push back. The first is the need to eliminate ISIS, that the US made, needs to be it’s proxy US army managing, destroying Europe, as, here he/she is right again, USA has no use for Europe at all.